I remember thinking that a Scanner would help entering maagazine pages of cod , thinking computer aided whatever would take the hard part of entering sever pages of code but never learned to do that after buying a scanner.
That was years ago in my thinking

You might need a specialized scanner, or scanner software, for that. Most
of the scanners I have ever had/operated would save things in formats --
as images or PDFs or some proprietary format -- that were not good for
text manipulation.

There might be utilities that could be used to extract the text out of
those formats, though.

Mike
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You might need a specialized scanner, or scanner software, for that. Most
of the scanners I have ever had/operated would save things in formats --
as images or PDFs or some proprietary format -- that were not good for
text manipulation.

There might be utilities that could be used to extract the text out of
those formats, though.

Mike
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My thinking was using software with the scanner to convert the writing (printing) on the page into text.

CAD is what I recall learning about.
Computer Aided don't remember what the D meant, I'm guessing Design.

It all adds up to Laziness on my part, hopeing the PC would do allthe work of entering paves and pages of pc code for Me.From what I can recall it was a program in Byte magazine for which direction an antenna should be Pointed toward a location.
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My thinking was using software with the scanner to convert the writing (printing) on the page into text.

My scanners didn't have such options (or at least not good ones!) but I am sure that others probably did.

It all adds up to Laziness on my part, hopeing the PC would do allthe work of entering paves and pages of pc code for Me.From what I can recall it was a program in Byte magazine for which direction an antenna should be Pointed toward a location.

I wouldn't necessarily call it laziness. Avoiding typos would be another motivator for such a project. I can remember spending hours typing in TI
Basic programs from magazines or books just to wind up with a typo (or
several) that I never could get tracked down.

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as images or PDFs or some proprietary format -- that were not good for

>> text manipulation.
>>
>> There might be utilities that could be used to extract the text out of
>> those formats, though.

My thinking was using software with the scanner to convert the writing

>(printing) on the page into text.

I've used programs like that in the past. Usually you are converting
PDF files but some of them can convert image files as well. It's a
long time since I did that but a quick look online suggests that
Adobe Acrobat can do PDF files and there are a number of online
services that claim they can do it. PDF2GO mentiones converting
pictures as well as PDF's. For programming though I'm not certain
these programs are 100% accurate and results probably have to be
checked for errors.

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My scanners didn't have such options (or at least not good ones!) but I am sure that others probably did.

I wouldn't necessarily call it laziness. Avoiding typos would be another motivator for such a project. I can remember spending hours typing in TI Basic programs from magazines or books just to wind up with a typo (or several) that I never could get tracked down.

Mike
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In the 1970's I drooled over buying a scanner for my 486 box.
Bought a HP 4C scanner that almost cost one thousand bucks.
Can't recall if CAD software was included, probably not.
Tried using Irafanview option for CAD without success. So gave up on the big idea
Some years later someone I knew got a All-In-One Printer/Scanner and told me it cost around $300.00 USD.

And Yes I stmphaci

symphacise with You about Running BASIC code and the program needing editing.

I remember when the stores has TI 99/44.
I played with one once to find out to get IT to print my name I had to press a Function Key with the p key for my name to appear on the monitor screen.
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>> text manipulation.
>>
>> There might be utilities that could be used to extract the text out of
>> those formats, though.

>(printing) on the page into text.

I've used programs like that in the past. Usually you are converting
PDF files but some of them can convert image files as well. It's a
long time since I did that but a quick look online suggests that
Adobe Acrobat can do PDF files and there are a number of online
services that claim they can do it. PDF2GO mentiones converting
pictures as well as PDF's. For programming though I'm not certain
these programs are 100% accurate and results probably have to be
checked for errors.

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Rob,
Someone in either the Windows echo or the Windows 95 echo wrote about a provran called DOPDF .
I d/l'd it and learned it is a Print Driver that makes a PDF file on the HDD.

I have used for saving a webpage I was looking at in Firefox.
DOPDF saves images and text as a PDF that I can read later.
Even extra long webpages with a dozen or two dozen pages on it.
But as you wrote PDF's are no good for entering BASIC code .
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There might be utilities that could be used to extract the text out of
those formats, though.

I've used programs like that in the past. Usually you are converting

>> PDF files but some of them can convert image files as well. It's a
>> long time since I did that but a quick look online suggests that
>> Adobe Acrobat can do PDF files and there are a number of online
>> services that claim they can do it. PDF2GO mentiones converting
>> pictures as well as PDF's.

Rob,

>Someone in either the Windows echo or the Windows 95 echo wrote
>about a program called DOPDF. I d/l'd it and learned it is a Print
>Driver that makes a PDF file on the HDD.

I would have mentioned that since I use that myself but creating
a PDF file isn't the same as extracting text out of various file
types so I didn't think of it.

DoPDF works qyite well though. If properly installed it works well
for a number of programs, most anything that can print I think..

I also for years used one called Cute PDF which is similar, but
probably not as up to date as DoPDF. I believe it had other
options built in too though. It's been a while since I used it.
It was more of a full program than just a Printer Driver, although
it was that as well I think.

If it wasn't a universal type printer driver it could be called
upon by other programs to save their work as a PDF.

Most of these utilities I use with a very nice, small and simple
Word Processor program called Jarte. I use it for almost everything
I do with documents. It has all the usual Word type options and
can save files as PDF and HTML and most Text formats if set up
properly, and it does spell checking and such.. a tiny program.

Sumatra PDF is another nice program I use that can do a lot of
things including ePub and Mobi books and such.

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>> PDF files but some of them can convert image files as well. It's a
>> long time since I did that but a quick look online suggests that
>> Adobe Acrobat can do PDF files and there are a number of online
>> services that claim they can do it. PDF2GO mentiones converting
>> pictures as well as PDF's.

>Someone in either the Windows echo or the Windows 95 echo wrote
>about a program called DOPDF. I d/l'd it and learned it is a Print
>Driver that makes a PDF file on the HDD.

I would have mentioned that since I use that myself but creating
a PDF file isn't the same as extracting text out of various file
types so I didn't think of it.

DoPDF works qyite well though. If properly installed it works well
for a number of programs, most anything that can print I think..

I also for years used one called Cute PDF which is similar, but
probably not as up to date as DoPDF. I believe it had other
options built in too though. It's been a while since I used it.
It was more of a full program than just a Printer Driver, although
it was that as well I think.

If it wasn't a universal type printer driver it could be called
upon by other programs to save their work as a PDF.

Most of these utilities I use with a very nice, small and simple
Word Processor program called Jarte. I use it for almost everything
I do with documents. It has all the usual Word type options and
can save files as PDF and HTML and most Text formats if set up
properly, and it does spell checking and such.. a tiny program.

Sumatra PDF is another nice program I use that can do a lot of
things including ePub and Mobi books and such.

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Rob, I heard of Cutepdf and tried it.
When I grabbed DoPDF I liked much more and used it even to save text in a email into a PDF file.

I like that DoPDF will save images and all the text even in a giant web page. Ed
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DoPDF works qyite well though. If properly installed it works well

>> for a number of programs, most anything that can print I think..

I also for years used one called Cute PDF which is similar, but

>> probably not as up to date as DoPDF.

Rob, I heard of Cutepdf and tried it.

>When I grabbed DoPDF I liked much more and used it even
>to save text in a email into a PDF file.

I like that DoPDF will save images and all the text

>even in a giant web page.

Yes, I had another program suggest using DoPDF to add the option
of saving output in PDF files in one operation rather than two.
I'm not one to change programs I like but I was quite impressed
with DoPDF and have used it ever since..

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Yes, when I was looking at the C-64 / C-128 systems the Apple II
computers were out and they were a lot more of a true computer.
But they were about $1500 as well.. When my friend turned me on
to building my own Apple Clone for more like $500, I was thrilled..

I know that some people have built "Hackintosh" computers more recently.
I had no idea that people were able to build Apple clones back then.

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Yes, when I was looking at the C-64 / C-128 systems the Apple II

>> computers were out and they were a lot more of a true computer.
>> But they were about $1500 as well.. When my friend turned me on
>> to building my own Apple Clone for more like $500, I was thrilled..

I know that some people have built "Hackintosh" computers more recently.

>I had no idea that people were able to build Apple clones back then.

There were Chinese shops in Toronto that had replica cases and carried
all the parts needed. The motherboards were made in Toronto and were
better quality than the genuine Apple parts with things like gold
plated sockets for chips and such, and the boards could handle more
RAM than 'real' Apples could. (80k instead of 48k upgradable to 64k.)

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I know that some people have built "Hackintosh" computers more recently.

>I had no idea that people were able to build Apple clones back then.

There were Chinese shops in Toronto that had replica cases and carried
all the parts needed. The motherboards were made in Toronto and were
better quality than the genuine Apple parts with things like gold
plated sockets for chips and such, and the boards could handle more
RAM than 'real' Apples could. (80k instead of 48k upgradable to 64k.)

Sweet. I wonder if such things were available in the US then, or if
"controls" prevented them from being so?

Maybe an American who knows more about Apple from back then would have to answer that one. ;)

Mike


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There were Chinese shops in Toronto that had replica cases and carried

>> all the parts needed. The motherboards were made in Toronto and were
>> better quality than the genuine Apple parts with things like gold
>> plated sockets for chips and such, and the boards could handle more
>> RAM than 'real' Apples could. (80k instead of 48k upgradable to 64k.)

Sweet. I wonder if such things were available in the US then, or if

>"controls" prevented them from being so?

Maybe an American who knows more about Apple from back then would have to

>answer that one. ;)

I'm sure these little Chinese stores were everywhere - run by recent
Chinese immigrants and selling a lot of electronics directly from
China - and the whole idea of clones was technically illegal everywhere
but it was quite common. Back then over about a 5 year period I had
3 Apple systems and 2 PC type systems and they were all built from
mostly cloned parts.

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