• Old SurfacePro4

    From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 11:03:36
    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably
    the battery. I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor, since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible, and with just
    the one extension lead?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 14:20:06
    On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 12:30:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably
    the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?
    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.
    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 15:38:23
    On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:08:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably
    the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it either way.
    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.
    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.
    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 20:19:45
    On 23/01/2026 2:38 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:08:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably >>>>> the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it either way.
    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.
    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.
    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor >>
    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 08:15:27
    On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 16:07:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably >>>>>> the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?
    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.


    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen >>>>>> far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 09:51:14
    On 24/01/2026 2:28 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end,
    probably˙ the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.˙˙ We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?˙ Isnt your arm going to get tired ?˙ Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    ˙Depends how heavy the touch screen is.˙ Anyway I can do it either way.
    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection.˙˙ WiFi might be possible too.˙ I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3).˙˙˙ I can get a larger touch screen >>>>>>> far cheaper than a new laptop.˙˙ Is all˙ this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just˙ the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books, and far more easily
    handled in bed than a 20" display.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 14:10:45
    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 12:24:45 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat
    Pro)
    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen >>>>>>>> far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 14:16:31
    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 12:30:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it either >>>>> way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>> screen far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.
    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise

    I hope it will be just like reading an open glossy magazine. And I
    watch movies too. The weight is the point and I want to get the
    weights of various touch screens. The Surface pro by itself is 1100
    gm.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 14:30:45

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.
    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise

    I hope it will be just like reading an open glossy magazine. And I
    watch movies too. The weight is the point and I want to get the
    weights of various touch screens. The Surface pro by itself is 1100
    gm.

    I asked ChatBot about this, and the screens are heavier than I
    thought.
    ***************************
    Hello can I get the weights (in grams) of several typical 20" touch
    screens?

    Here are the **weights (in grams)** for a few typical **20-inch
    (19.5?) touchscreen monitors** ? based on manufacturer specifications
    (mostly *Elo Touch Solutions* models):

    ### ?? Typical 20? Touchscreen Weights

    1. **[Elo 2002L 20? Touchscreen Monitor With Stand]()**

    * Approx. *with stand*: **5.3 kg** ? **5300 g** ([Elo Support][1])
    * Approx. *without stand*: **3.29 kg** ? **3290 g** ([Elo
    Support][1])
    * *Packaged weight (for shipping)*: ~ **9 kg** ? **9000 g** ([Elo Support][1])

    2. **Elo 2002L 20? Touchscreen Monitor (unbranded standalone without
    stand)**

    * Approx. *unpackaged without stand*: **3.29 kg** ? **3290 g**
    ([Elo Support][1])

    3. **Elo 2094L 19.5? Open-Frame Touchscreen**

    * Approx. **4.7 kg** ? **4700 g** ([Elo Touch Solutions
    Documentation][2])
    * *Packaged weight (shipping)*: ~ **6.4 kg** ? **6400 g** ([Elo
    Touch Solutions Documentation][2])

    ---

    ### ?? Notes & Typical Variability

    * Many **20? touchscreens are actually ~19.5? active diagonal** ? very
    common in both commercial and industrial models. ([Elo? | Touchscreen Solutions][3])
    * Weight varies significantly depending on whether a **stand is
    included**, whether it?s **open-frame vs fully-housed**, and
    additional features (e.g., speakers, rugged casing).
    * The values above are *approximate manufacturer specs* in grams, not
    precise measurements for *every* model ? other brands/models can
    differ. ([elotouch.com][4])

    If you want, I can look up **weights for specific brands/models**
    you?re considering.

    [1]: https://elosupport.elotouch.com/hc/en-us/articles/31651090405271-What-is-the-weight-of-the-2002L-20-Touchscreen-Monitor?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "What is the weight of the 2002L 20\" Touchscreen Monitor?"
    [2]: https://docs.elotouch.com/Elo_2094L.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "2094L 19.5-inch LED"
    [3]:
    https://www.elotouch.com.au/product/2002l-20-touchscreen-monitor/?utm_so
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 18:20:19
    On 24/01/2026 11:30 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.˙˙ We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?˙ Isnt your arm going to get tired ?˙ Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    ˙Depends how heavy the touch screen is.˙ Anyway I can do it either
    way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection.˙˙ WiFi might be possible too.˙ I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3).˙˙˙ I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>> screen˙ far cheaper than a new laptop.˙˙ Is all˙ this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just˙ the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.
    ˙No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily˙ handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise

    If he doesn't want a Kindle, an iPad would be my next choice. My 5th generation Air is a bit heavy, but a 3rd generation Air would be fine.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 25, 2026 07:54:41
    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 16:06:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat
    Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>> screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 25, 2026 09:18:15
    On 25/01/2026 2:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.˙˙ We like to read in >>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?˙ Isnt your arm going to get tired ?˙ Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    ˙Depends how heavy the touch screen is.˙ Anyway I can do it
    either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection.˙˙ WiFi might be possible too.˙ I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>> laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3).˙˙˙ I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>>> screen˙ far cheaper than a new laptop.˙˙ Is all˙ this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just˙ the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    ˙No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    ˙Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    ˙I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    ˙And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily˙ handled in bed than a 20" display.

    ˙Depends on what you do mount wise

    If he doesn't want a Kindle, an iPad would be my next choice.

    Same problem with pdfs

    My 5th˙ generation Air is a bit heavy,

    Doesnt matter if you use a mount

    but a 3rd generation Air would be fine.

    But not for pdfs

    I have no trouble viewing PDFs on the iPad.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 25, 2026 09:20:20
    On 25/01/2026 7:44 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.˙˙ We like to read in >>>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?˙ Isnt your arm going to get tired ?˙ Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest.˙ I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat
    Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    But that requires you to raise your hand to the screen

    A mouse with a scroll wheel doesnt

    Lying in bed, a trackball would be a better option than a mouse.

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection.˙˙ WiFi might be possible too.˙ I'll check with the >>>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>>> laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3).˙˙˙ I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>>>> screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop.˙˙ Is all˙ this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just˙ the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 25, 2026 16:08:49
    On 25/01/2026 9:55 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.˙˙ We like to read in >>>>>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?˙ Isnt your arm going to get tired ?˙ Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest.˙ I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat >>>>>> Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    ˙But that requires you to raise your hand to the screen
    ˙A mouse with a scroll wheel doesnt

    Lying in bed, a trackball would be a better option than a mouse.

    Bullshit given that you dont need to move sideways with pdfs

    Only inside the PDF, you may need to while selecting one. The best thing
    about a trackball is that you don't need to move it, it takes up less
    space and is always in the same place. I think that I paid $35 for mine,
    I haven't used a mouse in years and don't intend to unless there is no
    option.

    And a trackball is much more expensive than
    the cheapest mice

    And?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 25, 2026 16:09:55
    On 25/01/2026 9:52 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one >>>>>>>>>>>>> end, probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.˙˙ We like to read >>>>>>>>>>> in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?˙ Isnt your arm going to get tired ?˙ Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    ˙Depends how heavy the touch screen is.˙ Anyway I can do it >>>>>>>>> either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB >>>>>>>>> connection.˙˙ WiFi might be possible too.˙ I'll check with the >>>>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>>>> laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3).˙˙˙ I can get a larger >>>>>>>>>>>>> touch screen˙ far cheaper than a new laptop.˙˙ Is all˙ this >>>>>>>>>>>>> possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just˙ the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    ˙No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    ˙Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    ˙I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    ˙And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily˙ handled in bed than a 20" display.

    ˙Depends on what you do mount wise

    If he doesn't want a Kindle, an iPad would be my next choice.

    ˙Same problem with pdfs

    My 5th˙ generation Air is a bit heavy,

    ˙Doesnt matter if you use a mount

    but a 3rd generation Air would be fine.

    ˙But not for pdfs

    I have no trouble viewing PDFs on the iPad.

    You dont get the same paging as you do with kindles
    and don't have the same control over fonts etc as you
    do with a PC

    Does that really matter when reading a book?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 26, 2026 07:51:49
    On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 08:44:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat
    Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    But that requires you to raise your hand to the screen
    So? Books do not require constant scrolling given it takes time to
    read a page. For the rest I use the on-screen keyboard to sort books
    into relevant folders. Anyway I can aways plug in a mouse or
    keyboard if required. And for movies I use headphones.

    A mouse with a scroll wheel doesnt

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the >>>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>>> laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>>>> screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)