• Re: connect home phone to router

    From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Monday, October 06, 2025 14:35:43
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 11:56:06 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:37:59 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    They don't have a guide for your exact model, but it can't be too
    hard to translate from their VoIP set-up instructions for other
    Linksys devices here:

    https://www.spintel.net.au/guides/voip/linksys
    thanks, I never knew about this, and neither does Spintel tech support >>>> apparently, since I spent an hour and a half on the phone with them
    during two phone calls, and there was no mention of a voip box.
    I'll see
    if I can get it to work when I get time. thanks again. :)

    Suspect if you have a landline handset it probably will plug into the
    Routers phone socket?
    My Telstra routers have all come with a phone socket plug

    it doesn't have a phone socket.

    Not hard to replace it with one that does and the
    Technicolor doesnt dost much used and works fine

    one as good as what I have would cost a lot. not worth it just to get a landline working


    btw, why are there phone sockets on the NBN box?

    For the POTS phone


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  • From noel@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 06:31:14
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 19:08:24 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:


    A decent ATA doesnt cost much

    yep, you can get grandstream 2 fxs port for 65 brand new (I use them),
    and made of some light alloy not plastic.

    https://www.thetelecomshop.com/au/grandstream-ht802-2-port-fxs-adapter


    old used linksys papt's I've seen on ebay for as low as 30 (beware they
    are very long in the tooth now, so you have used-age plus they dont like
    being subjected to heat, I've found the failure rate after ~10 years in
    Qld's heat is pretty high unless theybe been spending all summers in 24/7 aircon


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  • From noel@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 07:07:23
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix wrote:

    and I already have an ATA. remains to see if I can get it to
    work tho. I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins this arvo, but gave up
    after that.


    From memory that ancient 3102 has 1 fxs and 1 fxo port, you are plugging
    your phone into (and configuring) the fxs port I hope :)


    also...

    Just because some interfaces have 6 pages and 90 options a page, doesnt
    mean you have to touch anything more that the basics, if AU supplier, its LOCALE settings shoulds already be default, all YOU have to enter in is:

    your LAN settings
    SIP server
    SIP user
    SIP password


    optionaly:

    check-timezone
    DTMF Type rfc2833

    codec Primary G722, secondary A-Law (maybe called PCMA or G711.A)
    (ignore anyones insistance upon ulaw, thats for yankies... and Japanese)

    dial-plan (saves waiting for timeouts or pushing hash)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 11:18:05
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 14:35:43 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 11:56:06 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:37:59 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    They don't have a guide for your exact model, but it can't be too >>>>>>>>> hard to translate from their VoIP set-up instructions for other >>>>>>>>> Linksys devices here:

    https://www.spintel.net.au/guides/voip/linksys
    thanks, I never knew about this, and neither does Spintel tech >>>>>>>> support
    apparently, since I spent an hour and a half on the phone with >>>>>>>> them
    during two phone calls, and there was no mention of a voip box. >>>>>>>> I'll see
    if I can get it to work when I get time. thanks again. :)

    Suspect if you have a landline handset it probably will plug
    into the
    Routers phone socket?
    My Telstra routers have all come with a phone socket plug

    it doesn't have a phone socket.

    Not hard to replace it with one that does and the
    Technicolor doesnt dost much used and works fine

    one as good as what I have would cost a lot.

    Bullshit

    oh you're back in bullshit mode I see. you don't last long in
    sensible mode. and depends how much you call a lot. bottom line..
    it's not worth buying a new modem/router just to have a landline, at
    least not for me

    What you said stays bullshit

    nonsense. because you don't even know how much my modem cost, and you've criticised me without even knowing that.


    not worth it just to get a landline working

    A decent ATA doesnt cost much

    but you were talking about a modem, and a technicolor modem in fact,
    not an ATA. and I already have an ATA. remains to see if I can get it
    to work tho. I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins this arvo, but gave
    up after that.

    But are too stupid to work out how to use it

    wrong again. I know how to use it, just haven't got all the relevant
    settings from Spintel yet.

    or even work out how to get one that is easy to setup

    of course I know I can get something if I want to spend the money


    btw, why are there phone sockets on the NBN box?

    For the POTS phone

    EOD. because I/we know how arguing with you ends up. something about
    bullshit and a paper bag..

    --
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    Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows?
    A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you


    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 13:20:37
    On 7/10/2025 11:18 am, Felix wrote:
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 14:35:43 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 11:56:06 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:37:59 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    They don't have a guide for your exact model, but it can't be too >>>>>>>>>> hard to translate from their VoIP set-up instructions for other >>>>>>>>>> Linksys devices here:

    https://www.spintel.net.au/guides/voip/linksys
    thanks, I never knew about this, and neither does Spintel tech >>>>>>>>> support
    apparently, since I spent an hour and a half on the phone with >>>>>>>>> them
    during two phone calls, and there was no mention of a voip box. >>>>>>>>> I'll see
    if I can get it to work when I get time. thanks again. :)

    Suspect if you have a landline handset it probably will plug
    into the
    Routers phone socket?
    My Telstra routers have all come with a phone socket plug

    it doesn't have a phone socket.

    Not hard to replace it with one that does and the
    Technicolor doesnt dost much used and works fine

    one as good as what I have would cost a lot.

    Bullshit

    oh you're back in bullshit mode I see. you don't last long in
    sensible mode. and depends how much you call a lot. bottom line..
    it's not worth buying a new modem/router just to have a landline, at
    least not for me

    What you said stays bullshit

    nonsense. because you don't even know how much my modem cost, and you've criticised me without even knowing that.


    not worth it just to get a landline working

    A decent ATA doesnt cost much

    but you were talking about a modem, and a technicolor modem in fact,
    not an ATA. and I already have an ATA. remains to see if I can get it
    to work tho. I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins this arvo, but gave
    up after that.

    But are too stupid to work out how to use it

    wrong again. I know how to use it, just haven't got all the relevant settings from Spintel yet.

    or even work out how to get one that is easy to setup

    of course I know I can get something if I want to spend the money


    btw, why are there phone sockets on the NBN box?

    For the POTS phone

    EOD. because I/we know how arguing with you ends up. something about bullshit and a paper bag..

    Yeah, that's when you know you've won and Rod's lost! LOL

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 17:26:53
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 13:20:37 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 7/10/2025 11:18 am, Felix wrote:
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 14:35:43 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 11:56:06 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:37:59 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    They don't have a guide for your exact model, but it can't >>>>>>>>>>>> be too
    hard to translate from their VoIP set-up instructions for >>>>>>>>>>>> other
    Linksys devices here:

    https://www.spintel.net.au/guides/voip/linksys
    thanks, I never knew about this, and neither does Spintel >>>>>>>>>>> tech support
    apparently, since I spent an hour and a half on the phone >>>>>>>>>>> with them
    during two phone calls, and there was no mention of a voip >>>>>>>>>>> box. I'll see
    if I can get it to work when I get time. thanks again. :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    Suspect if you have a landline handset it probably will plug >>>>>>>>>> into the
    Routers phone socket?
    My Telstra routers have all come with a phone socket plug

    it doesn't have a phone socket.

    Not hard to replace it with one that does and the
    Technicolor doesnt dost much used and works fine

    one as good as what I have would cost a lot.

    Bullshit

    oh you're back in bullshit mode I see. you don't last long in
    sensible mode. and depends how much you call a lot. bottom line..
    it's not worth buying a new modem/router just to have a landline,
    at least not for me

    What you said stays bullshit
    ?nonsense. because you don't even know how much my modem cost, and
    you've criticised me without even knowing that.


    not worth it just to get a landline working

    A decent ATA doesnt cost much

    but you were talking about a modem, and a technicolor modem in
    fact, not an ATA. and I already have an ATA. remains to see if I
    can get it to work tho. I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins this
    arvo, but gave up after that.

    But are too stupid to work out how to use it
    ?wrong again. I know how to use it, just haven't got all the
    relevant settings from Spintel yet.

    or even work out how to get one that is easy to setup
    ?of course I know I can get something if I want to spend the money


    btw, why are there phone sockets on the NBN box?

    For the POTS phone
    ?EOD. because I/we know how arguing with you ends up. something
    about bullshit and a paper bag..

    Yeah, that's when you know you've won and Rod's lost!?? LOL

    Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

    It isnt about winning or loosing, fuckwit child

    It is for you

    --
    Linux Mint 22.2
    Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows?
    A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you


    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 17:46:01
    noel wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix wrote:

    and I already have an ATA. remains to see if I can get it to
    work tho. I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins this arvo, but gave up
    after that.

    From memory that ancient 3102 has 1 fxs and 1 fxo port, you are plugging your phone into (and configuring) the fxs port I hope :)

    not sure what you mean I'm connecting it as per the instructions. there
    is only one phone socket on it



    also...

    Just because some interfaces have 6 pages and 90 options a page, doesnt
    mean you have to touch anything more that the basics,

    noted

    if AU supplier, its
    LOCALE settings shoulds already be default, all YOU have to enter in is:

    your LAN settings
    SIP server
    SIP user
    SIP password

    Spintel provide basic settings, but they don't jive with the labels on
    the ATA's setup page



    optionaly:

    check-timezone
    DTMF Type rfc2833

    codec Primary G722, secondary A-Law (maybe called PCMA or G711.A)
    (ignore anyones insistance upon ulaw, thats for yankies... and Japanese)

    dial-plan (saves waiting for timeouts or pushing hash)

    Thanks for the help. I had reset it to default settings to remove
    whatever the previous ISP had put in. I will work on it again when I get
    time.

    --
    Linux Mint 22.2
    Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows?
    A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you


    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From noel@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 17:40:35
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 17:46:01 +1100, Felix wrote:

    noel wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix wrote:

    and I already have an ATA. remains to see if I can get it to work tho.
    I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins this arvo, but gave up after
    that.

    From memory that ancient 3102 has 1 fxs and 1 fxo port, you are
    plugging
    your phone into (and configuring) the fxs port I hope :)

    not sure what you mean I'm connecting it as per the instructions. there
    is only one phone socket on it

    you must have different model, not to worry, makes it easier



    your LAN settings SIP server SIP user SIP password

    Spintel provide basic settings, but they don't jive with the labels on
    the ATA's setup page

    take a few screenshots and stick em up on pastebin





    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 19:39:02
    On 7/10/2025 5:26 pm, Felix wrote:
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 13:20:37 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 7/10/2025 11:18 am, Felix wrote:
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 14:35:43 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 11:56:06 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:37:59 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    They don't have a guide for your exact model, but it can't >>>>>>>>>>>>> be too
    hard to translate from their VoIP set-up instructions for >>>>>>>>>>>>> other
    Linksys devices here:

    https://www.spintel.net.au/guides/voip/linksys
    thanks, I never knew about this, and neither does Spintel >>>>>>>>>>>> tech support
    apparently, since I spent an hour and a half on the phone >>>>>>>>>>>> with them
    during two phone calls, and there was no mention of a voip >>>>>>>>>>>> box. I'll see
    if I can get it to work when I get time. thanks again. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Suspect if you have a landline handset it probably will plug >>>>>>>>>>> into the
    Routers phone socket?
    My Telstra routers have all come with a phone socket plug >>>>>>>>>>
    it doesn't have a phone socket.

    Not hard to replace it with one that does and the
    Technicolor doesnt dost much used and works fine

    one as good as what I have would cost a lot.

    Bullshit

    oh you're back in bullshit mode I see. you don't last long in
    sensible mode. and depends how much you call a lot. bottom line.. >>>>>> it's not worth buying a new modem/router just to have a landline, >>>>>> at least not for me

    What you said stays bullshit
    ˙nonsense. because you don't even know how much my modem cost, and
    you've criticised me without even knowing that.


    not worth it just to get a landline working

    A decent ATA doesnt cost much

    but you were talking about a modem, and a technicolor modem in
    fact, not an ATA. and I already have an ATA. remains to see if I
    can get it to work tho. I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins this >>>>>> arvo, but gave up after that.

    But are too stupid to work out how to use it
    ˙wrong again. I know how to use it, just haven't got all the
    relevant settings from Spintel yet.

    or even work out how to get one that is easy to setup
    ˙of course I know I can get something if I want to spend the money


    btw, why are there phone sockets on the NBN box?

    For the POTS phone
    ˙EOD. because I/we know how arguing with you ends up. something
    about bullshit and a paper bag..

    Yeah, that's when you know you've won and Rod's lost!˙˙ LOL

    Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

    It isnt about winning or loosing, fuckwit child

    It is for you

    For Rod, it's all about "loose"!

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 19:40:11
    On 7/10/2025 7:16 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 17:26:53 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 13:20:37 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 7/10/2025 11:18 am, Felix wrote:
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 14:35:43 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 11:56:06 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:37:59 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    They don't have a guide for your exact model, but it can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be too
    hard to translate from their VoIP set-up instructions for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
    Linksys devices here:

    https://www.spintel.net.au/guides/voip/linksys
    thanks, I never knew about this, and neither does Spintel >>>>>>>>>>>>> tech support
    apparently, since I spent an hour and a half on the phone >>>>>>>>>>>>> with them
    during two phone calls, and there was no mention of a voip >>>>>>>>>>>>> box. I'll see
    if I can get it to work when I get time. thanks again. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Suspect if you have a landline handset it probably will plug >>>>>>>>>>>> into the
    Routers phone socket?
    My Telstra routers have all come with a phone socket plug >>>>>>>>>>>
    it doesn't have a phone socket.

    Not hard to replace it with one that does and the
    Technicolor doesnt dost much used and works fine

    one as good as what I have would cost a lot.

    Bullshit

    oh you're back in bullshit mode I see. you don't last long in
    sensible mode. and depends how much you call a lot. bottom line.. >>>>>>> it's not worth buying a new modem/router just to have a landline, >>>>>>> at least not for me

    What you said stays bullshit
    ˙nonsense. because you don't even know how much my modem cost, and
    you've criticised me without even knowing that.


    not worth it just to get a landline working

    A decent ATA doesnt cost much

    but you were talking about a modem, and a technicolor modem in
    fact, not an ATA. and I already have an ATA. remains to see if I >>>>>>> can get it to work tho. I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins this >>>>>>> arvo, but gave up after that.

    But are too stupid to work out how to use it
    ˙wrong again. I know how to use it, just haven't got all the
    relevant settings from Spintel yet.

    or even work out how to get one that is easy to setup
    ˙of course I know I can get something if I want to spend the money


    btw, why are there phone sockets on the NBN box?

    For the POTS phone
    ˙EOD. because I/we know how arguing with you ends up. something
    about bullshit and a paper bag..

    Yeah, that's when you know you've won and Rod's lost!˙˙ LOL

    Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

    It isnt about winning or loosing, fuckwit child

    It is for you

    More of your mindless bullshit

    Your "followup" proves him 100% on the money!

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 22:27:43
    Xeno wrote:
    On 7/10/2025 7:16 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 17:26:53 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 13:20:37 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 7/10/2025 11:18 am, Felix wrote:
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 14:35:43 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 11:56:06 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:37:59 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    They don't have a guide for your exact model, but it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't be too
    hard to translate from their VoIP set-up instructions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for other
    Linksys devices here:

    https://www.spintel.net.au/guides/voip/linksys
    thanks, I never knew about this, and neither does Spintel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tech support
    apparently, since I spent an hour and a half on the phone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with them
    during two phone calls, and there was no mention of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voip box. I'll see
    if I can get it to work when I get time. thanks again. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Suspect if you have a landline handset it probably will >>>>>>>>>>>>> plug into the
    Routers phone socket?
    My Telstra routers have all come with a phone socket plug >>>>>>>>>>>>
    it doesn't have a phone socket.

    Not hard to replace it with one that does and the
    Technicolor doesnt dost much used and works fine

    one as good as what I have would cost a lot.

    Bullshit

    oh you're back in bullshit mode I see. you don't last long in >>>>>>>> sensible mode. and depends how much you call a lot. bottom
    line.. it's not worth buying a new modem/router just to have a >>>>>>>> landline, at least not for me

    What you said stays bullshit
    ˙nonsense. because you don't even know how much my modem cost,
    and you've criticised me without even knowing that.


    not worth it just to get a landline working

    A decent ATA doesnt cost much

    but you were talking about a modem, and a technicolor modem in >>>>>>>> fact, not an ATA. and I already have an ATA. remains to see if >>>>>>>> I can get it to work tho. I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins >>>>>>>> this arvo, but gave up after that.

    But are too stupid to work out how to use it
    ˙wrong again. I know how to use it, just haven't got all the
    relevant settings from Spintel yet.

    or even work out how to get one that is easy to setup
    ˙of course I know I can get something if I want to spend the money >>>>>>

    btw, why are there phone sockets on the NBN box?

    For the POTS phone
    ˙EOD. because I/we know how arguing with you ends up. something
    about bullshit and a paper bag..

    Yeah, that's when you know you've won and Rod's lost! LOL

    Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

    It isnt about winning or loosing, fuckwit child

    It is for you

    More of your mindless bullshit

    Your "followup" proves him 100% on the money!


    some things never change

    --
    Linux Mint 22.2
    Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows?
    A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you


    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 22:32:14
    noel wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 17:46:01 +1100, Felix wrote:

    noel wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix wrote:

    and I already have an ATA. remains to see if I can get it to work tho. >>>> I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins this arvo, but gave up after
    that.
    From memory that ancient 3102 has 1 fxs and 1 fxo port, you are
    plugging
    your phone into (and configuring) the fxs port I hope :)
    not sure what you mean I'm connecting it as per the instructions. there
    is only one phone socket on it
    you must have different model, not to worry, makes it easier

    my bad. there's two. but one is for the copper line which is irrelevant. there's just one for the handset


    your LAN settings SIP server SIP user SIP password
    Spintel provide basic settings, but they don't jive with the labels on
    the ATA's setup page

    take a few screenshots and stick em up on pastebin



    yeah, I was thinking that's what I'll do :)


    --
    Linux Mint 22.2
    Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows?
    A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you


    --- PyGate Linux v1.0
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, October 08, 2025 08:36:25
    On 8/10/2025 3:20 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 19:40:11 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

    On 7/10/2025 7:16 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 17:26:53 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 13:20:37 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> >>>>> wrote:

    On 7/10/2025 11:18 am, Felix wrote:
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 14:35:43 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 11:56:06 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:37:59 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    They don't have a guide for your exact model, but it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't be too
    hard to translate from their VoIP set-up instructions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for other
    Linksys devices here:

    https://www.spintel.net.au/guides/voip/linksys
    thanks, I never knew about this, and neither does Spintel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tech support
    apparently, since I spent an hour and a half on the phone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with them
    during two phone calls, and there was no mention of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voip box. I'll see
    if I can get it to work when I get time. thanks again. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Suspect if you have a landline handset it probably will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug into the
    Routers phone socket?
    My Telstra routers have all come with a phone socket plug >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    it doesn't have a phone socket.

    Not hard to replace it with one that does and the
    Technicolor doesnt dost much used and works fine

    one as good as what I have would cost a lot.

    Bullshit

    oh you're back in bullshit mode I see. you don't last long in >>>>>>>>> sensible mode. and depends how much you call a lot. bottom
    line.. it's not worth buying a new modem/router just to have a >>>>>>>>> landline, at least not for me

    What you said stays bullshit
    ˙nonsense. because you don't even know how much my modem cost,
    and you've criticised me without even knowing that.


    not worth it just to get a landline working

    A decent ATA doesnt cost much

    but you were talking about a modem, and a technicolor modem in >>>>>>>>> fact, not an ATA. and I already have an ATA. remains to see if >>>>>>>>> I can get it to work tho. I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins >>>>>>>>> this arvo, but gave up after that.

    But are too stupid to work out how to use it
    ˙wrong again. I know how to use it, just haven't got all the
    relevant settings from Spintel yet.

    or even work out how to get one that is easy to setup
    ˙of course I know I can get something if I want to spend the money >>>>>>>

    btw, why are there phone sockets on the NBN box?

    For the POTS phone
    ˙EOD. because I/we know how arguing with you ends up. something >>>>>>> about bullshit and a paper bag..

    Yeah, that's when you know you've won and Rod's lost!˙˙ LOL

    Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

    It isnt about winning or loosing, fuckwit child

    It is for you
    ˙More of your mindless bullshit

    Your "followup" proves him 100% on the money!


    More of your mindless bullshit

    The mindless bullshit is flowing from *you*.

    For sure, you'd give Darren a run for his money on the bullshit front.

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  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, October 08, 2025 13:54:21
    Petzl wrote:
    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 22:32:14 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:


    yeah, I was thinking that's what I'll do :)

    you don't have a Ethernet cable with a phone plug at other end <https://www.amazon.com.au/Ethernet-Phone-Adapter-Female-Converter/dp/B09DXXHHJK>
    if the router is set-up for VOIP I'm GUESSING?

    the router has no telephony configuration capability since it has no
    phone socket

    All my NBN Routers came with a phone jack

    this one doesn't

    Sintel Voip are free don't charge for calls to you,
    They do if you call. $10 a month for Australia wide "free" calls to
    and from.

    I pay nothing for the line, only the calls


    There are also pay per cal VoIP APP's you can get for your mobile good
    for international calls <https://yollacalls.com/en/international-calling-app-yolla/>

    For affordable calls to mobiles and landlines now that Skype is gone,
    some dedicated alternatives offer pay-as-you-go prepaid minutes with
    low international rates?similar to how Skype Credit worked. The most recommended current alternatives are Yolla, Rebtel, KeepCalling, and
    Viber Out. All can be used with prepaid credit and are popular for
    their low, transparent per-minute pricing.



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  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, October 08, 2025 14:03:46
    noel wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 17:46:01 +1100, Felix wrote:

    noel wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 20:01:34 +1100, Felix wrote:

    and I already have an ATA. remains to see if I can get it to work tho. >>>> I was on hold to Spintel for 20 mins this arvo, but gave up after
    that.
    From memory that ancient 3102 has 1 fxs and 1 fxo port, you are
    plugging
    your phone into (and configuring) the fxs port I hope :)
    not sure what you mean I'm connecting it as per the instructions. there
    is only one phone socket on it
    you must have different model, not to worry, makes it easier

    your LAN settings SIP server SIP user SIP password
    Spintel provide basic settings, but they don't jive with the labels on
    the ATA's setup page

    take a few screenshots and stick em up on pastebin





    Hi. this is the opening router screen using admin/advanced login .. https://auslink.info/spa3102/linkys1.png

    and these are the headings under the voice screen .. https://auslink.info/spa3102/linkys2.png

    what screens should i post?

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  • From noel@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, October 08, 2025 16:11:05
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:03:46 +1100, Felix wrote:



    Hi. this is the opening router screen using admin/advanced login .. https://auslink.info/spa3102/linkys1.png

    and these are the headings under the voice screen .. https://auslink.info/spa3102/linkys2.png

    what screens should i post?

    OK try this, the 3102 has a fuckload more options than the regular pap2t
    or sipura phones (sipura/linksys/cisco term all interchangable here)

    On the voice tab, select SIP, under SDP payload check G711a, then under
    NAT, theres a few "via" options, ensure handle and insert for rport and received are YES, Subsitute VIA adr YES and send Resp to SRC port Yes, keepalive 20 then submit changes.


    next select Line 1
    NAT mapping and krp alive Yes

    under SIP UDP (it always works but if you keep getting errors try TCP)
    sip port the usual 5060 and with sip-proxy-require put your sip server address they gave you.

    under proxy and registration
    proxy = your sip server
    make sure register is yes
    ensure the Make and Answer without Register are both no


    under sunscriber information
    user ID is your username and surprise spurprise the password goes
    in...... password :)


    under audio configuration
    preferred codec G711a
    sec 729a
    third, 711u

    then dial plan.

    This is one off my spa942 phone it will work sipura/linsys stuff is
    identical in this way, I'll pull out some extra segments we have for our
    PBX, but if I miss any, it wont affect your dialing, put all this in one
    line.


    (*xx|000S0|[2-9]xxxxxxxS0|0[2-9]xxxxxxxxS0|01[49]xxxxxxxS0|130xxxxxxxS0|13 [1-9]xxxS0|12[23]xS0|180[01]xxxxxxS0|180[2-9]xxxS0|19[023]xxxxxxS0|1831x.| 0011x.)


    now click submit changes

    then on PSTN tab change the register to no, then on that pages dial plan remove dial plan 2 if it exists, and insert the above one again,

    scroll down to find Line 1 Fall back DP and set to 2
    PSTN to voip gateway enable to no

    submit changes, reboot and pray

    and next time get a simpler ATA to configure, the 3102 is an fxs fxo ATA
    and a router in one, its way over complicated for a simple ATA

    even the pap2t's are simple as with 1/10th the steps needed :)
    no guarantees this still works, this thing is so old I dumped most notes
    on it, i found these in an old folder and it looks like igts missing a
    page so if it works, I'll be surprised - let us know :)
    if it doesnt, there might be other steps and you'll need to keep
    searching.

    Good luck.

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  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, October 08, 2025 19:15:23
    Petzl wrote:
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 15:07:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 11:58:28 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 10:07:26 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 09:31:57 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 22:32:14 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:


    yeah, I was thinking that's what I'll do :)

    you don't have a Ethernet cable with a phone plug at other end
    <https://www.amazon.com.au/Ethernet-Phone-Adapter-Female-Converter/dp/B09DXXHHJK>
    if the router is set-up for VOIP I'm GUESSING?

    All my NBN Routers came with a phone jack
    Sintel Voip are free don't charge for calls to you,
    They do if you call. $10 a month for Australia wide "free" calls to >>>>> and from.

    There are also pay per cal VoIP APP's you can get for your mobile good >>>>> for international calls
    <https://yollacalls.com/en/international-calling-app-yolla/>

    For affordable calls to mobiles and landlines now that Skype is gone, >>>>> some dedicated alternatives offer pay-as-you-go prepaid minutes with >>>>> low international rates?similar to how Skype Credit worked. The most >>>>> recommended current alternatives are Yolla, Rebtel, KeepCalling, and >>>>> Viber Out. All can be used with prepaid credit and are popular for
    their low, transparent per-minute pricing.
    He only wants the landline for EMERGENCYS, stupid
    Can do that from his Mobiles Wi-Fi connection using
    https://yollacalls.com/en/international-calling-app-yolla/
    Stupid
    Useless if the mobile system is down at his place, fuckwit

    You really are a know-all that knows nothing.
    Your phone will conect to a Wifi Router without need for your mobile
    to be going


    certainly does! I have two old mobiles without sim cards in them that I
    leave around the house for convenience to connect to the internet in
    case I want to look up something, check email, or answer a messenger
    call, etc., saves me having to go looking for my mobile that i never
    know where it is, lol. come to think of of it, they can also be used to
    call 000.

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    A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you


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  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, October 08, 2025 20:11:13
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 19:15:23 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 15:07:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 11:58:28 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 10:07:26 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 09:31:57 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 22:32:14 +1100, Felix <none@not.here> wrote:


    yeah, I was thinking that's what I'll do :)

    you don't have a Ethernet cable with a phone plug at other end
    <https://www.amazon.com.au/Ethernet-Phone-Adapter-Female-Converter/dp/B09DXXHHJK>

    ˙ if the router is set-up for VOIP I'm GUESSING?

    All my NBN Routers came with a phone jack
    Sintel Voip are free don't charge for calls to you,
    ˙ They do if you call. $10 a month for Australia wide "free"
    calls to
    and from.

    There are also pay per cal VoIP APP's you can get for your
    mobile good
    for international calls
    <https://yollacalls.com/en/international-calling-app-yolla/>

    For affordable calls to mobiles and landlines now that Skype is >>>>>>> gone,
    some dedicated alternatives offer pay-as-you-go prepaid minutes >>>>>>> with
    low international rates?similar to how Skype Credit worked. The >>>>>>> most
    recommended current alternatives are Yolla, Rebtel, KeepCalling, >>>>>>> and
    Viber Out. All can be used with prepaid credit and are popular for >>>>>>> their low, transparent per-minute pricing.
    He only wants the landline for EMERGENCYS, stupid
    Can do that from his Mobiles Wi-Fi connection using
    https://yollacalls.com/en/international-calling-app-yolla/
    Stupid
    Useless if the mobile system is down at his place, fuckwit

    You really are a know-all that knows nothing.
    Your phone will conect to a Wifi Router without need for your mobile
    to be going

    certainly does! I have two old mobiles without sim cards in them that
    I leave around the house for convenience to connect to the internet
    in case I want to look up something, check email, or answer a
    messenger call, etc.,

    Pity you were talking about EMERGENCY calls

    I was addressing what Petzl said. wasn't talking to you or about what
    you said.


    saves me having to go looking for my mobile that i never know where
    it is, lol.

    Trivial to make it ring so you can find it

    oh yeah, that makes more sense. get someone to ring my mobile so I can
    get up off the chair and go find it rather than use the one right beside me


    come to think of of it, they can also be used to˙ call 000.

    So you dont need voip for an EMERGENCY, fuckit

    yes I do if I want to call other than 000, like a friend frinstance, fukwit

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  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, October 09, 2025 20:00:47
    noel wrote:
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:03:46 +1100, Felix wrote:

    Hi. this is the opening router screen using admin/advanced login ..
    https://auslink.info/spa3102/linkys1.png

    and these are the headings under the voice screen ..
    https://auslink.info/spa3102/linkys2.png

    what screens should i post?
    OK try this, the 3102 has a fuckload more options than the regular pap2t
    or sipura phones (sipura/linksys/cisco term all interchangable here)

    On the voice tab, select SIP, under SDP payload check G711a, then under
    NAT, theres a few "via" options, ensure handle and insert for rport and received are YES, Subsitute VIA adr YES and send Resp to SRC port Yes, keepalive 20 then submit changes.


    next select Line 1
    NAT mapping and krp alive Yes

    under SIP UDP (it always works but if you keep getting errors try TCP)
    sip port the usual 5060 and with sip-proxy-require put your sip server address they gave you.

    under proxy and registration
    proxy = your sip server
    make sure register is yes
    ensure the Make and Answer without Register are both no


    under sunscriber information
    user ID is your username and surprise spurprise the password goes
    in...... password :)


    under audio configuration
    preferred codec G711a
    sec 729a
    third, 711u

    then dial plan.

    This is one off my spa942 phone it will work sipura/linsys stuff is
    identical in this way, I'll pull out some extra segments we have for our
    PBX, but if I miss any, it wont affect your dialing, put all this in one line.


    (*xx|000S0|[2-9]xxxxxxxS0|0[2-9]xxxxxxxxS0|01[49]xxxxxxxS0|130xxxxxxxS0|13 [1-9]xxxS0|12[23]xS0|180[01]xxxxxxS0|180[2-9]xxxS0|19[023]xxxxxxS0|1831x.| 0011x.)


    now click submit changes

    then on PSTN tab change the register to no, then on that pages dial plan remove dial plan 2 if it exists, and insert the above one again,

    scroll down to find Line 1 Fall back DP and set to 2
    PSTN to voip gateway enable to no

    submit changes, reboot and pray

    and next time get a simpler ATA to configure, the 3102 is an fxs fxo ATA
    and a router in one, its way over complicated for a simple ATA

    even the pap2t's are simple as with 1/10th the steps needed :)
    no guarantees this still works, this thing is so old I dumped most notes
    on it, i found these in an old folder and it looks like igts missing a
    page so if it works, I'll be surprised - let us know :)
    if it doesnt, there might be other steps and you'll need to keep
    searching.

    Good luck.

    Thanks. I haven't done anything with this yet. I just got released from
    the hospital an hour ago.

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  • From Keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, October 11, 2025 16:43:36
    On 7/10/2025 4:46 pm, Felix wrote:

    Spintel provide basic settings, but they don't jive with the labels on
    the ATA's setup page

    What is your experience with Spintel? I'm looking at changing providers,
    I was considering Spintel until I saw the unremittingly bad reviews, Now
    I'm leaning toward Flip.

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  • From Felix@3:633/10 to All on Monday, October 20, 2025 18:15:47
    noel wrote:
    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:03:46 +1100, Felix wrote:

    Hi. this is the opening router screen using admin/advanced login ..
    https://auslink.info/spa3102/linkys1.png

    and these are the headings under the voice screen ..
    https://auslink.info/spa3102/linkys2.png

    what screens should i post?
    OK try this, the 3102 has a fuckload more options than the regular pap2t
    or sipura phones (sipura/linksys/cisco term all interchangable here)

    On the voice tab, select SIP, under SDP payload check G711a, then under
    NAT, theres a few "via" options, ensure handle and insert for rport and received are YES, Subsitute VIA adr YES and send Resp to SRC port Yes, keepalive 20 then submit changes.


    next select Line 1
    NAT mapping and krp alive Yes

    under SIP UDP (it always works but if you keep getting errors try TCP)
    sip port the usual 5060 and with sip-proxy-require put your sip server address they gave you.

    under proxy and registration
    proxy = your sip server
    make sure register is yes
    ensure the Make and Answer without Register are both no


    under sunscriber information
    user ID is your username and surprise spurprise the password goes
    in...... password :)


    under audio configuration
    preferred codec G711a
    sec 729a
    third, 711u

    then dial plan.

    This is one off my spa942 phone it will work sipura/linsys stuff is
    identical in this way, I'll pull out some extra segments we have for our
    PBX, but if I miss any, it wont affect your dialing, put all this in one line.


    (*xx|000S0|[2-9]xxxxxxxS0|0[2-9]xxxxxxxxS0|01[49]xxxxxxxS0|130xxxxxxxS0|13 [1-9]xxxS0|12[23]xS0|180[01]xxxxxxS0|180[2-9]xxxS0|19[023]xxxxxxS0|1831x.| 0011x.)


    now click submit changes

    then on PSTN tab change the register to no, then on that pages dial plan remove dial plan 2 if it exists, and insert the above one again,

    scroll down to find Line 1 Fall back DP and set to 2
    PSTN to voip gateway enable to no

    submit changes, reboot and pray

    and next time get a simpler ATA to configure, the 3102 is an fxs fxo ATA
    and a router in one, its way over complicated for a simple ATA

    even the pap2t's are simple as with 1/10th the steps needed :)
    no guarantees this still works, this thing is so old I dumped most notes
    on it, i found these in an old folder and it looks like igts missing a
    page so if it works, I'll be surprised - let us know :)
    if it doesnt, there might be other steps and you'll need to keep
    searching.

    Good luck.

    woo-hoo! you're a jeanious mate! It worked perfectly, right after
    reboot. Thanks heaps! :)

    --
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    Q: What's the difference between Linux and Windows?
    A: You rule Linux, Microsoft Windows rules you


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