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    From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, March 15, 2026 14:15:15

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been
    released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2 only slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Sujbaru and
    Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth place, just ahead of
    Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford, GMC,
    Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo and
    Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above Ford.



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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 13:50:02
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been
    released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle-
    dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2 only slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Sujbaru and Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth place, just ahead of
    Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford, GMC,
    Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo and Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above Ford.



    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?
    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long since
    any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear they are
    getting worse not better.

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    Daryl

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 14:04:32
    On 17/03/2026 1:50 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been
    released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle-
    dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2 only
    slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Sujbaru and
    Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth place, just ahead
    of Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford, GMC,
    Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo and
    Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above Ford.



    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?

    Yeah, that was odd.

    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long since
    any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear they are getting worse not better.

    Yeah, I dunno. The survey results are supposed to be completely
    impartial. Toyota at number 8 was a surprise as well.



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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 15:06:44
    On 17/03/2026 10:50 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been
    released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle-
    dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2 only
    slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Sujbaru and
    Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth place, just ahead
    of Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford, GMC,
    Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo and
    Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above Ford.



    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?

    Buick consistently ranks highly. That's absolutely not a surprise at all.

    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long since
    any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear they are getting worse not better.


    "what you hear" vs an actual *dependability* study.

    Just go back to sleep Daryl...


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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 20:35:05
    On 17/3/2026 2:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 1:50 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been
    released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle-
    dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2
    only slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet,
    Sujbaru and Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth place,
    just ahead of Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford, GMC,
    Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo and
    Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above Ford.



    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?

    Yeah, that was odd.

    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long
    since any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear
    they are getting worse not better.

    Yeah, I dunno. The survey results are supposed to be completely
    impartial. Toyota at number 8 was a surprise as well.



    Since Toyota own Lexus they could still claim to be No1:-)
    I recently did a minor service on my mates 2024 Ram 1500, he couldn't
    get it booked into a dealer for service in a reasonable time and the
    service was already overdue.
    So far its done 35,000km and its been trouble free and he's very happy
    with it, as a tow vehicle its vastly better than the 79 Series LC it
    replaced, lots more power and the 10spd auto works very well, fuel
    economy is about the same if he's gentle with his right foot.
    BTW I was surprised how low it is, I had to jack it up just to reach the
    sump plug and filter, don't need to do that with a Hilux which has much
    more ground clearance, he's thinking about getting a 2" lift because its
    not good off road.

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    Daryl

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 20:35:13
    On 17/3/2026 6:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 10:50 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been
    released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle-
    dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2
    only slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet,
    Sujbaru and Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth place,
    just ahead of Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford, GMC,
    Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo and
    Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above Ford.



    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?

    Buick consistently ranks highly. That's absolutely not a surprise at all.

    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long
    since any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear
    they are getting worse not better.


    "what you hear" vs an actual *dependability* study.

    Just go back to sleep Daryl...

    No need, he didn't wake, he was talking in his sleep.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 20:59:26
    On 17-Mar-26 8:35 PM, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/3/2026 2:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 1:50 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been
    released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle-
    dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2
    only slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet,
    Sujbaru and Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth
    place, just ahead of Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford,
    GMC, Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo
    and Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above Ford. >>>>


    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?

    Yeah, that was odd.

    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long
    since any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear
    they are getting worse not better.

    Yeah, I dunno. The survey results are supposed to be completely
    impartial. Toyota at number 8 was a surprise as well.



    Since Toyota own Lexus they could still claim to be No1:-)
    I recently did a minor service on my mates 2024 Ram 1500, he couldn't
    get it booked into a dealer for service in a reasonable time and the
    service was already overdue.
    So far its done 35,000km and its been trouble free and he's very happy
    with it, as a tow vehicle its vastly better than the 79 Series LC it replaced, lots more power and the 10spd auto works very well, fuel
    economy is about the same if he's gentle with his right foot.
    BTW I was surprised how low it is, I had to jack it up just to reach the sump plug and filter, don't need to do that with a Hilux which has much
    more ground clearance, he's thinking about getting a 2" lift because its
    not good off road.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Be lucky to climb a gutter by the sound of it1. (Apparently 8.3"
    standard clearance)...They are a poseurs car. 11.8' on TRX.. Bit better
    but you`d need a mate with a Jeep to help you.!! :):):)



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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 22:33:14
    On 17/3/2026 8:59 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 17-Mar-26 8:35 PM, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/3/2026 2:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 1:50 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been
    released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle-
    dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2
    only slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet,
    Sujbaru and Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth
    place, just ahead of Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford,
    GMC, Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo
    and Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above Ford. >>>>>


    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?

    Yeah, that was odd.

    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long
    since any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear
    they are getting worse not better.

    Yeah, I dunno. The survey results are supposed to be completely
    impartial. Toyota at number 8 was a surprise as well.



    Since Toyota own Lexus they could still claim to be No1:-)
    I recently did a minor service on my mates 2024 Ram 1500, he couldn't
    get it booked into a dealer for service in a reasonable time and the
    service was already overdue.
    So far its done 35,000km and its been trouble free and he's very happy
    with it, as a tow vehicle its vastly better than the 79 Series LC it
    replaced, lots more power and the 10spd auto works very well, fuel
    economy is about the same if he's gentle with his right foot.
    BTW I was surprised how low it is, I had to jack it up just to reach
    the sump plug and filter, don't need to do that with a Hilux which has
    much more ground clearance, he's thinking about getting a 2" lift
    because its not good off road.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ˙Be lucky to climb a gutter by the sound of it1. (Apparently 8.3"
    standard clearance)...They are a poseurs car. 11.8' on TRX.. Bit better
    but you`d need a mate with a Jeep to help you.!! :):):)



    LOL, its an excellent tow vehicle but crap off road.
    At least its good at something:-)

    --
    Daryl

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 22:02:06
    On 17/03/2026 7:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/3/2026 6:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 10:50 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been
    released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle-
    dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2
    only slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet,
    Sujbaru and Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth
    place, just ahead of Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford,
    GMC, Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo
    and Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above Ford. >>>>


    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?

    Buick consistently ranks highly. That's absolutely not a surprise at all.

    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long
    since any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear
    they are getting worse not better.


    "what you hear" vs an actual *dependability* study.

    Just go back to sleep Daryl...

    No need, he didn't wake, he was talking in his sleep.


    The boys are back in town. It doesn't matter what you say, they will contradict it.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, March 17, 2026 23:38:45
    On 17/3/2026 10:33 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/3/2026 8:59 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 17-Mar-26 8:35 PM, Daryl wrote:
    On 17/3/2026 2:04 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 1:50 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been >>>>>> released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle- >>>>>>> dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2 >>>>>> only slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet,
    Sujbaru and Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth
    place, just ahead of Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford,
    GMC, Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo >>>>>> and Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above
    Ford.



    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?

    Yeah, that was odd.

    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long
    since any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear >>>>> they are getting worse not better.

    Yeah, I dunno. The survey results are supposed to be completely
    impartial. Toyota at number 8 was a surprise as well.



    Since Toyota own Lexus they could still claim to be No1:-)
    I recently did a minor service on my mates 2024 Ram 1500, he couldn't
    get it booked into a dealer for service in a reasonable time and the
    service was already overdue.
    So far its done 35,000km and its been trouble free and he's very
    happy with it, as a tow vehicle its vastly better than the 79 Series
    LC it replaced, lots more power and the 10spd auto works very well,
    fuel economy is about the same if he's gentle with his right foot.
    BTW I was surprised how low it is, I had to jack it up just to reach
    the sump plug and filter, don't need to do that with a Hilux which
    has much more ground clearance, he's thinking about getting a 2" lift
    because its not good off road.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ˙˙Be lucky to climb a gutter by the sound of it1. (Apparently 8.3"
    standard clearance)...They are a poseurs car. 11.8' on TRX.. Bit
    better but you`d need a mate with a Jeep to help you.!! :):):)



    LOL, its an excellent tow vehicle but crap off road.
    At least its good at something:-)

    They are being marketed here as tow vehicles. When going bush, their
    *width* goes against them.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, March 18, 2026 09:41:51
    On 17/03/2026 8:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 7:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/3/2026 6:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 10:50 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been
    released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle-
    dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2
    only slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet,
    Sujbaru and Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth
    place, just ahead of Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford,
    GMC, Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo
    and Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above Ford. >>>>>


    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?

    Buick consistently ranks highly. That's absolutely not a surprise at
    all.

    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long
    since any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear
    they are getting worse not better.


    "what you hear" vs an actual *dependability* study.

    Just go back to sleep Daryl...

    No need, he didn't wake, he was talking in his sleep.


    The boys are back in town. It doesn't matter what you say, they will contradict it.

    The *facts* contradict Daryl's reckonings.



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    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, March 18, 2026 14:38:29
    On 18/03/2026 11:41 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 8:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 7:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/3/2026 6:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/03/2026 10:50 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/3/2026 2:15 pm, Noddy wrote:

    The latest JD Power vehicle dependability study results have been >>>>>> released in the US, and the results may surprise some people :)

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-vehicle- >>>>>>> dependability-study-vds

    Lexus holds onto the top place on the list, but Buick at number 2 >>>>>> only slightly behind is interesting. Mini, Cadillac, Chevrolet,
    Sujbaru and Porsche are all ahead of Toyota who lies in eighth
    place, just ahead of Kia and Nissan who round out the top ten.

    At the other end of the scale, the bottom ten in order are Ford,
    GMC, Acura, Infiniti, Mercedez-Benz, Audi, Jeep, Land Rover, Volvo >>>>>> and Volkswagwen coming in dead last.

    Tesla comes in with a score of 226, which places them just above
    Ford.



    Interesting but it all seems rather odd.
    Buick in second place?

    Buick consistently ranks highly. That's absolutely not a surprise at
    all.

    Makes me wonder if there is some sort of US bias, its been a long
    since any US cars could be called high quality and from what I hear >>>>> they are getting worse not better.


    "what you hear" vs an actual *dependability* study.

    Just go back to sleep Daryl...

    No need, he didn't wake, he was talking in his sleep.


    The boys are back in town. It doesn't matter what you say, they will
    contradict it.

    The *facts* contradict Daryl's reckonings.



    As I said ......

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