• eCVTs

    From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 26, 2026 20:04:32


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 26, 2026 21:59:26
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 07:36:47
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade training
    since. According to the logic of some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a
    handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to create instructional materials including video and CBT because that was what
    Richmond TAFE was well known for.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 17:54:55
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade training
    since. According to the logic of some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a
    handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, not a trade
    school teacher. Obviously he can't work in the trade as a paraplegic,
    but when you look at the facilities that he has, he can stay a lot more relevant than somebody who can only rely on the internet. comparing
    yourself to him is a bit of a laugh.

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to create instructional materials including video and CBT because that was what Richmond TAFE was well known for.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 16:26:13
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade training
    since. According to the logic of some posters here, John hasn't had
    any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has
    a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing but
    obviously you don't really believe that.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 20:37:19
    On 27/01/2026 6:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, not a trade school teacher. Obviously he can't work in the trade as a paraplegic,
    but when you look at the facilities that he has, he can stay a lot more relevant than somebody who can only rely on the internet. comparing
    yourself to him is a bit of a laugh.

    A bit? :)




    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 20:48:20
    On 27/1/2026 8:37 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, not a
    trade school teacher. Obviously he can't work in the trade as a
    paraplegic, but when you look at the facilities that he has, he can
    stay a lot more relevant than somebody who can only rely on the
    internet. comparing yourself to him is a bit of a laugh.

    A bit? :)

    Well, you comparing yourself to anyone is a lot of a laugh! You only
    claim to fame - world's greatest liar.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 20:08:52
    On 27/01/2026 6:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade training
    since. According to the logic of some posters here, John hasn't had
    any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has
    a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.


    Becoming a university professor, is an achievement not a qualification.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 21:44:14
    On 27/1/2026 6:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade training
    since. According to the logic of some posters here, John hasn't had
    any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has
    a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, not a trade

    I think you will find that John D Weber went from mechanic, to trade
    school teacher, to College Professor. He also spent a lot of time
    studying, currently his highest qualification is a Masters Degree.

    school teacher. Obviously he can't work in the trade as a paraplegic,

    John Kelly is *not* a paraplegic. He has muscular distrophy, something
    with which he was most afflicted a mere 12 or 13 years ago and he has
    only been confined to the wheelchair since then. Prior to 2013 he was
    still mobile and walking. He also still drives his own vehicle.

    but when you look at the facilities that he has, he can stay a lot more relevant than somebody who can only rely on the internet. comparing
    yourself to him is a bit of a laugh.

    When I was teaching, I had access to all that John Kelly had in the way
    of equipment and information. I still have a degree of access at the
    local TAFE college. Was offered a full time teaching position a few
    years back at the local TAFE automotive department but I politely
    declined to to health reasons.

    FWIW, I was not comparing myself to John D Kelly. I was saying that I
    was, to a degree, following the same path. I have stated in the past
    that I wasn't much interested in following a research path as John Kelly
    has done, I was much more interested in the creation of learning
    material - as stated below. That was what my Grad Dip and BEd were all
    about - the development of the necessary skills to achieve that,
    including computer animation to video. That path was stymied by the
    Victorian State Government when they starved TAFE of funding in the late
    90s and altered the direction of TAFE - Victorians are paying the price
    of that shortsightedness to this very day.

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to
    create instructional materials including video and CBT because that
    was what Richmond TAFE was well known for.



    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 21:47:04
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade training
    since. According to the logic of some posters here, John hasn't had
    any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has
    a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now! ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on from a
    great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 22:12:26
    On 27/1/2026 9:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade
    training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John
    hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how
    John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing but
    obviously you don't really believe that.


    Becoming a university professor, is an achievement not a qualification.

    It's something you don't and cannot achieve *until and unless* you get
    the relevant qualification. In Australia, it is a position one can only achieve *if one is awarded a PhD*. In the US a professorship is granted
    to the Masters holders in community colleges such as that which Weber
    State once was.

    AI
    A professorship (Level E) in Australia requires a PhD, extensive,
    high-impact research, and, often, national or international
    recognition in the field. Candidates must demonstrate exceptional
    academic leadership in teaching, research supervision, and
    administrative service, alongside a sustained record of published,
    peer-reviewed work.

    One form of recognition is having your thesis cited in the research
    theses of others in the same or related fields.

    I do not compare myself to people like John Weber since I know what is involved in research for a Masters or PhD thesis having assisted 3 NESB
    people with theirs. I have seen their stress, I have sat on the phone
    for 12 hours straight working through chapters where information or
    direction was misunderstood due to language barriers. You do not
    understand what a qualification is in the case of a Masters or PhD. A qualification is the culmination of a great number of achievements. A
    trade qualification is the same.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 21:33:13
    On 27/01/2026 9:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    I do not compare myself to people like John Weber

    I'm not sure who you are talking about, the guy in the video is John D Kelly

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-d-kelly-37ab6bb

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 21:34:19
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade
    training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John
    hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how
    John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing but
    obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on from a
    great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 21:41:27
    On 27/01/2026 8:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 6:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade training
    since. According to the logic of some posters here, John hasn't had
    any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has
    a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, not a trade

    I think you will find that John D Weber went from mechanic, to trade
    school teacher, to College Professor. He also spent a lot of time
    studying, currently his highest qualification is a Masters Degree.

    school teacher. Obviously he can't work in the trade as a paraplegic,

    John Kelly is *not* a paraplegic. He has muscular distrophy, something
    with which he was most afflicted a mere 12 or 13 years ago and he has
    only been confined to the wheelchair since then. Prior to 2013 he was
    still mobile and walking. He also still drives his own vehicle.

    but when you look at the facilities that he has, he can stay a lot
    more relevant than somebody who can only rely on the internet.
    comparing yourself to him is a bit of a laugh.

    When I was teaching, I had access to all that John Kelly had in the way
    of equipment and information. I still have a degree of access at the
    local TAFE college. Was offered a full time teaching position a few
    years back at the local TAFE automotive department but I politely
    declined to to health reasons.

    FWIW, I was not comparing myself to John D Kelly. I was saying that I
    was, to a degree, following the same path. I have stated in the past
    that I wasn't much interested in following a research path as John Kelly
    has done, I was much more interested in the creation of learning
    material - as stated below. That was what my Grad Dip and BEd were all
    about - the development of the necessary skills to achieve that,
    including computer animation to video. That path was stymied by the Victorian State Government when they starved TAFE of funding in the late
    90s and altered the direction of TAFE - Victorians are paying the price
    of that shortsightedness to this very day.

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to
    create instructional materials including video and CBT because that
    was what Richmond TAFE was well known for.



    Isn't it amazing that putting up a better video with the simple comment
    "This one is more practical" drives you into a major shit storm?

    A very good sign of insecurity on your part.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 22:41:43
    On 27/1/2026 10:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    I do not compare myself to people like John Weber

    I'm not sure who you are talking about, the guy in the video is John D
    Kelly

    Meant to write John Kelly of Weber State, lots of John Kellys around.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-d-kelly-37ab6bb


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 21:44:19
    On 27/01/2026 9:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    I do not compare myself to people like John Weber

    I'm not sure who you are talking about, the guy in the video is John D
    Kelly

    Meant to write John Kelly of Weber State,

    lots of John Kellys around.

    Really?

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-d-kelly-37ab6bb




    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 22:44:37
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the >>>>> *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade
    training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John
    hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how
    John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing but
    obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on from a
    great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The model
    used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. The Weber State
    video is more suited to training for mechanics since they already know
    all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic gear trains.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 21:50:08
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an >>>>>> *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in
    the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade
    training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John >>>>>> hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how
    John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing but
    obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on from a
    great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The model
    used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. The Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics since they already know
    all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear train,
    it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person. They are also
    used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 23:26:27
    On 27/1/2026 10:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 6:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade
    training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John
    hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how
    John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, not a trade

    I think you will find that John D Weber went from mechanic, to trade
    school teacher, to College Professor. He also spent a lot of time
    studying, currently his highest qualification is a Masters Degree.

    school teacher. Obviously he can't work in the trade as a paraplegic,

    John Kelly is *not* a paraplegic. He has muscular distrophy, something
    with which he was most afflicted a mere 12 or 13 years ago and he has
    only been confined to the wheelchair since then. Prior to 2013 he was
    still mobile and walking. He also still drives his own vehicle.

    but when you look at the facilities that he has, he can stay a lot
    more relevant than somebody who can only rely on the internet.
    comparing yourself to him is a bit of a laugh.

    When I was teaching, I had access to all that John Kelly had in the
    way of equipment and information. I still have a degree of access at
    the local TAFE college. Was offered a full time teaching position a
    few years back at the local TAFE automotive department but I politely
    declined to to health reasons.

    FWIW, I was not comparing myself to John D Kelly. I was saying that I
    was, to a degree, following the same path. I have stated in the past
    that I wasn't much interested in following a research path as John
    Kelly has done, I was much more interested in the creation of learning
    material - as stated below. That was what my Grad Dip and BEd were all
    about - the development of the necessary skills to achieve that,
    including computer animation to video. That path was stymied by the
    Victorian State Government when they starved TAFE of funding in the
    late 90s and altered the direction of TAFE - Victorians are paying the
    price of that shortsightedness to this very day.

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to
    create instructional materials including video and CBT because that
    was what Richmond TAFE was well known for.



    Isn't it amazing that putting up a better video with the simple comment "This one is more practical" drives you into a major shit storm?

    Well, it doesn't. John's video is well resourced, well scripted, etc.
    but the target audience is those in the trade. The one I posted was for
    those *not in the trade*. Horses for courses. As I said, I have watched
    most of John's videos, they are all excellent examples for others to
    follow.

    A very good sign of insecurity on your part.



    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 23:28:05
    On 27/1/2026 10:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    I do not compare myself to people like John Weber

    I'm not sure who you are talking about, the guy in the video is John
    D Kelly

    Meant to write John Kelly of Weber State,

    lots of John Kellys around.

    Really?

    Yes, even John Kelly who *is* a paraplegic. I thought you might be
    mistaking John D Kelly for him - hence the point I made on John D Kellys actual malady.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-d-kelly-37ab6bb





    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 27, 2026 23:35:56
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an >>>>>>> *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in >>>>>>> the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade >>>>>>> training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John >>>>>>> hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how >>>>>>> John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it? >>>>>>
    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing
    but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on from a
    great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The
    model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. The
    Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics since they
    already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear train,
    it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person. They are also
    used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear geared
    hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling that one
    apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 08:10:02
    On 27/01/2026 10:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    I do not compare myself to people like John Weber

    I'm not sure who you are talking about, the guy in the video is John D
    Kelly

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-d-kelly-37ab6bb

    ROTFL :)



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    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 08:13:46
    On 27/01/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on from a
    great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    I think what he's really pissed off about is that he planned to post the
    video so it could be related back to him in some bizarre way, but no one
    is falling all over themselves to praise him as he expected them to.

    He's clearly suffering from an extreme form of relevance deprivation :)






    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 08:20:07
    On 27/01/2026 10:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:44 pm, Xeno wrote:

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to
    create instructional materials including video and CBT because that
    was what Richmond TAFE was well known for.



    Isn't it amazing that putting up a better video with the simple comment "This one is more practical" drives you into a major shit storm?

    You sound genuinely surprised :)

    A very good sign of insecurity on your part.

    Surely no sign is needed. Anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes in
    this place would know that this clueless buffoon is *the* most insecure
    half smart this group has ever known. The very reason he posted this
    shit to begin with was so he could wait for a response that would give
    him an opportunity to waffle on with a massive load of google
    plagiarised technical jargon that no one actually gives a fuck about.

    And that's the *real* funny bit. His belief that anything he says
    impresses anyone at all :)


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 08:15:26
    Noddy wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:44 pm, Xeno wrote:

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to
    create instructional materials including video and CBT because that >>>>> was what Richmond TAFE was well known for.



    Isn't it amazing that putting up a better video with the simple
    comment "This one is more practical" drives you into a major shit storm?

    You sound genuinely surprised :)

    A very good sign of insecurity on your part.

    Surely no sign is needed. Anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes in
    this place would know that this clueless buffoon is *the* most insecure
    half smart this group has ever known. The very reason he posted this
    shit to begin with was so he could wait for a response that would give
    him an opportunity to waffle on with a massive load of google
    plagiarised technical jargon that no one actually gives a fuck about.

    And that's the *real* funny bit. His belief that anything he says
    impresses anyone at all :)

    It was your well earned "insecurity" that made you post all those
    ridiculous, boastful lies Fraudster. And as for "impressing anyone", let
    me remind you that exactly *none* of your Enablers were willing to state
    that they believed you owned the fabled NA on the Slough IE.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 10:20:14
    On 28/1/2026 8:13 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on from a
    great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    I think what he's really pissed off about is that he planned to post the video so it could be related back to him in some bizarre way, but no one
    is falling all over themselves to praise him as he expected them to.

    He's clearly suffering from an extreme form of relevance deprivation :)

    You would be wrong Darren. I don't post Weber Auto videos here as a
    general rule, just those from engineering explained on occasion and only
    to press a point. You see, I don't need a video to get how the eCVTs
    work, I had a book that explained the eCVT in explicit detail from the earliest Prius on. That book now resides at the TAFE college, as do a
    great many more from my automotive library since I had a huge cull a few months back. And I have had *experience* with the eCVT - brilliant
    concept and way better than those blasted push belt types, no slipping
    belts, it's why I have one in the garage.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 10:23:01
    On 28/1/2026 8:20 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:44 pm, Xeno wrote:

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to
    create instructional materials including video and CBT because that >>>>> was what Richmond TAFE was well known for.



    Isn't it amazing that putting up a better video with the simple
    comment "This one is more practical" drives you into a major shit storm?

    You sound genuinely surprised :)

    A very good sign of insecurity on your part.

    Surely no sign is needed. Anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes in
    this place would know that this clueless buffoon is *the* most insecure
    half smart this group has ever known. The very reason he posted this
    shit to begin with was so he could wait for a response that would give
    him an opportunity to waffle on with a massive load of google
    plagiarised technical jargon that no one actually gives a fuck about.

    And that's the *real* funny bit. His belief that anything he says
    impresses anyone at all :)

    Omigod, you really are up yourself yet so insecure at the same time.
    Remind me again Darren who it was who had to *invent* an entire career
    in automotive just so they could feel relevant in an automotive newsgroup.

    Yeah, it's insecure little you!

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 10:49:22
    On 27/01/2026 6:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the
    *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade
    training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John
    hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how
    John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing but
    obviously you don't really believe that.


    Becoming a university professor, is an achievement not a qualification.


    You can't have it both ways weasel. Either they are both achievements or neither are achievements.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 10:55:09
    On 28/01/2026 5:20 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:44 pm, Xeno wrote:

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to
    create instructional materials including video and CBT because that >>>>> was what Richmond TAFE was well known for.



    Isn't it amazing that putting up a better video with the simple
    comment "This one is more practical" drives you into a major shit storm?

    You sound genuinely surprised :)

    A very good sign of insecurity on your part.

    Surely no sign is needed. Anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes in
    this place would know that this clueless buffoon is *the* most insecure
    half smart this group has ever known. The very reason he posted this
    shit to begin with was so he could wait for a response that would give
    him an opportunity to waffle on with a massive load of google
    plagiarised technical jargon that no one actually gives a fuck about.

    And that's the *real* funny bit. His belief that anything he says
    impresses anyone at all :)




    This from the pleb that had to invent qualifications and a life because
    he didn't have the brains or the work ethic to ever achieve anything.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 15:49:49
    Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Becoming a university professor, is an achievement not a qualification.


    You can't have it both ways weasel.

    There's never anything rational in Richo World.

    He'd whine about the colour of the carpet and not the 800kg pile of
    steaming shit in the corner.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 16:07:36
    On 27/01/2026 10:26 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 6:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the >>>>> *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade
    training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John
    hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how
    John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, not a trade >>>
    I think you will find that John D Weber went from mechanic, to trade
    school teacher, to College Professor. He also spent a lot of time
    studying, currently his highest qualification is a Masters Degree.

    school teacher. Obviously he can't work in the trade as a paraplegic,

    John Kelly is *not* a paraplegic. He has muscular distrophy,
    something with which he was most afflicted a mere 12 or 13 years ago
    and he has only been confined to the wheelchair since then. Prior to
    2013 he was still mobile and walking. He also still drives his own
    vehicle.

    but when you look at the facilities that he has, he can stay a lot
    more relevant than somebody who can only rely on the internet.
    comparing yourself to him is a bit of a laugh.

    When I was teaching, I had access to all that John Kelly had in the
    way of equipment and information. I still have a degree of access at
    the local TAFE college. Was offered a full time teaching position a
    few years back at the local TAFE automotive department but I politely
    declined to to health reasons.

    FWIW, I was not comparing myself to John D Kelly. I was saying that I
    was, to a degree, following the same path. I have stated in the past
    that I wasn't much interested in following a research path as John
    Kelly has done, I was much more interested in the creation of
    learning material - as stated below. That was what my Grad Dip and
    BEd were all about - the development of the necessary skills to
    achieve that, including computer animation to video. That path was
    stymied by the Victorian State Government when they starved TAFE of
    funding in the late 90s and altered the direction of TAFE -
    Victorians are paying the price of that shortsightedness to this very
    day.

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to
    create instructional materials including video and CBT because that >>>>> was what Richmond TAFE was well known for.



    Isn't it amazing that putting up a better video with the simple
    comment "This one is more practical" drives you into a major shit storm?

    Well, it doesn't. John's video is well resourced, well scripted, etc.
    but the target audience is those in the trade. The one I posted was for those *not in the trade*. Horses for courses. As I said, I have watched
    most of John's videos, they are all excellent examples for others to
    follow.

    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you just
    have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it was one of
    the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you posted seemed to
    be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at all, maybe that would
    be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is beyond that point.

    A very good sign of insecurity on your part.





    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 16:09:48
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is >>>>>>>> an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* >>>>>>>> in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in >>>>>>>> trade training since. According to the logic of some posters
    here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since
    1991. Funny how John really has a handle on all his trade stuff >>>>>>>> though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing
    but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on from
    a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The
    model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. The
    Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics since they
    already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear train,
    it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person. They are
    also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear geared
    hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling that one
    apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical bent
    would have encountered them and understood them. No need for training in
    the fundamentals.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 16:15:48
    On 27/01/2026 10:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    I do not compare myself to people like John Weber

    I'm not sure who you are talking about, the guy in the video is John
    D Kelly

    Meant to write John Kelly of Weber State,

    lots of John Kellys around.

    Really?

    Yes, even John Kelly who *is* a paraplegic. I thought you might be
    mistaking John D Kelly for him - hence the point I made on John D Kellys actual malady.

    At the point that I wrote that, I hadn't bothered to look up his bio,
    but it comes to the same thing anyway, he is paralysed from the waist
    down, an obviously can't work as a mechanic. Since his name is displayed
    on the video, it's obvious that I wasn't mistaking him for some other
    John D Kelly, or "John Webber"

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-d-kelly-37ab6bb







    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 16:18:34
    On 28/01/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an
    *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in the >>>>> *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade
    training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John
    hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how
    John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing but
    obviously you don't really believe that.


    Becoming a university professor, is an achievement not a qualification.


    You can't have it both ways weasel. Either they are both achievements or neither are achievements.

    You may need a qualification to be a professor, but only a few people so qualified actually become one. Hence becoming a professor is an
    achievment not a qualification. Simple enough for you?


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 16:20:04
    On 28/01/2026 3:49 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Becoming a university professor, is an achievement not a qualification.


    You can't have it both ways weasel.

    There's never anything rational in Richo World.

    He'd whine about the colour of the carpet and not the 800kg pile of
    steaming shit in the corner.

    Oh alvo has come in to make some noise, no information though.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 17:35:20
    On 28/1/2026 5:07 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:26 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 6:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an >>>>>> *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in
    the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade
    training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John >>>>>> hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how
    John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, not a
    trade

    I think you will find that John D Weber went from mechanic, to trade
    school teacher, to College Professor. He also spent a lot of time
    studying, currently his highest qualification is a Masters Degree.

    school teacher. Obviously he can't work in the trade as a paraplegic, >>>>
    John Kelly is *not* a paraplegic. He has muscular distrophy,
    something with which he was most afflicted a mere 12 or 13 years ago
    and he has only been confined to the wheelchair since then. Prior to
    2013 he was still mobile and walking. He also still drives his own
    vehicle.

    but when you look at the facilities that he has, he can stay a lot
    more relevant than somebody who can only rely on the internet.
    comparing yourself to him is a bit of a laugh.

    When I was teaching, I had access to all that John Kelly had in the
    way of equipment and information. I still have a degree of access at
    the local TAFE college. Was offered a full time teaching position a
    few years back at the local TAFE automotive department but I
    politely declined to to health reasons.

    FWIW, I was not comparing myself to John D Kelly. I was saying that
    I was, to a degree, following the same path. I have stated in the
    past that I wasn't much interested in following a research path as
    John Kelly has done, I was much more interested in the creation of
    learning material - as stated below. That was what my Grad Dip and
    BEd were all about - the development of the necessary skills to
    achieve that, including computer animation to video. That path was
    stymied by the Victorian State Government when they starved TAFE of
    funding in the late 90s and altered the direction of TAFE -
    Victorians are paying the price of that shortsightedness to this
    very day.

    What John is doing is what I was studying for at La Trobe Uni,
    curriculum design and media studies. Essentially learning how to
    create instructional materials including video and CBT because
    that was what Richmond TAFE was well known for.



    Isn't it amazing that putting up a better video with the simple
    comment "This one is more practical" drives you into a major shit storm?

    Well, it doesn't. John's video is well resourced, well scripted, etc.
    but the target audience is those in the trade. The one I posted was
    for those *not in the trade*. Horses for courses. As I said, I have
    watched most of John's videos, they are all excellent examples for
    others to follow.

    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you just
    have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it was one of
    the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you posted seemed to
    be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at all, maybe that would

    Which is precisely why I posted *that* video. I have mentioned the
    Toyota eCVT system in the past and the benefits of same over the more
    typical Jatco style of push belt CVT. Just thought I'd post something
    even Darren could understand.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 16:53:45
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you just
    have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it was one of
    the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you posted seemed to
    be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at all, maybe that would
    be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely pissy
    snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while ignoring the
    lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 17:59:49
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is >>>>>>>>> an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* >>>>>>>>> in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in >>>>>>>>> trade training since. According to the logic of some posters >>>>>>>>> here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since >>>>>>>>> 1991. Funny how John really has a handle on all his trade stuff >>>>>>>>> though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing >>>>>>> but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on from >>>>>> a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The
    model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. The
    Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics since
    they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic gear trains. >>>>
    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear
    train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person. They
    are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear geared
    hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling that one
    apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical bent
    would have encountered them and understood them. No need for training in
    the fundamentals.

    Not everyone. I mentioned the Raveneaux Compound gearset used in many BW
    and Aisin transmissions where the use of long and short pinions is the
    norm. I mentioned that, due to increased (doubled) axial force on the
    long pinions, they often wear through the carrier thrust bushings,
    Darren, of delusional world, pooh poohed that idea. But he had no clue.

    A bit of IA

    A worn thrust bearing in the planet carrier of a Borg-Warner
    35 (BW35) automatic transmission is a serious failure, often
    causing significant debris in the transmission pan and leading
    to a loss of drive in all gears. The wear is usually driven by
    the failure of the thrust washers situated between the
    planetary gear carrier and the sun gear.
    Here are the key details regarding the BW35 planet carrier and
    worn thrust bearing:
    Symptoms of Failure: Common signs include excessive endplay in
    the carrier, a rumbling noise in neutral, and in severe cases,
    the spider gears rubbing against the case.
    Cause of Wear: The bronze thrust washers/bearings between the
    rear planetary gear carrier and the input/sun gear wear down
    due to excessive axial loads.
    Consequences: If not addressed, the worn bearings can lead to
    metal shavings and chunks appearing in the oil pan. In some
    instances, the carrier cannot be easily repaired and must be
    replaced as a complete assembly.
    Diagnosis: During a tear-down, inspect the planetary gear
    carrier for severe, visible wear on the thrust faces, scoring,
    and excessive movement of the pins.
    Repair Considerations: When overhauling the BW35, it is crucial
    to flush the oil cooler and check all thrust faces for damage.

    And I remembered another place where I came across planetary gearsets;

    https://www.roadtrains.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/How-hub-reduction-differential-works_010.jpg

    Trucks, tractor and earthmover reduction hubs, saw lots of these.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 18:03:39
    On 28/1/2026 5:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    I do not compare myself to people like John Weber

    I'm not sure who you are talking about, the guy in the video is
    John D Kelly

    Meant to write John Kelly of Weber State,

    lots of John Kellys around.

    Really?

    Yes, even John Kelly who *is* a paraplegic. I thought you might be
    mistaking John D Kelly for him - hence the point I made on John D
    Kellys actual malady.

    At the point that I wrote that, I hadn't bothered to look up his bio,
    but it comes to the same thing anyway, he is paralysed from the waist
    down, an obviously can't work as a mechanic. Since his name is displayed
    on the video, it's obvious that I wasn't mistaking him for some other
    John D Kelly, or "John Webber"

    Muscular distrophy is *not* paralysis, it is muscular wastage. The
    muscles of his legs are no longer strong enough to enable him to walk
    freely.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-d-kelly-37ab6bb








    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 18:07:49
    On 28/1/2026 5:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 12:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is an >>>>>> *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* in
    the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in trade
    training since. According to the logic of some posters here, John >>>>>> hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how
    John really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing but
    obviously you don't really believe that.


    Becoming a university professor, is an achievement not a qualification.


    You can't have it both ways weasel. Either they are both achievements
    or neither are achievements.

    You may need a qualification to be a professor, but only a few people so qualified actually become one. Hence becoming a professor is an
    achievment not a qualification. Simple enough for you?

    Like any role where there are limited openings, not everyone can become
    a professor even when qualified. What's more, not everyone who
    *qualifies* with a PhD even want to become a professor since it involves
    a lifetime of research - something John Kelly has no issue with.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 18:09:03
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you just
    have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of things
    mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it was one of
    the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you posted seemed
    to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at all, maybe that
    would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 19:04:51
    On 28/01/2026 5:03 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:41 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:12 pm, Xeno wrote:


    I do not compare myself to people like John Weber

    I'm not sure who you are talking about, the guy in the video is
    John D Kelly

    Meant to write John Kelly of Weber State,

    lots of John Kellys around.

    Really?

    Yes, even John Kelly who *is* a paraplegic. I thought you might be
    mistaking John D Kelly for him - hence the point I made on John D
    Kellys actual malady.

    At the point that I wrote that, I hadn't bothered to look up his bio,
    but it comes to the same thing anyway, he is paralysed from the waist
    down, an obviously can't work as a mechanic. Since his name is
    displayed on the video, it's obvious that I wasn't mistaking him for
    some other John D Kelly, or "John Webber"

    Muscular distrophy is *not* paralysis, it is muscular wastage. The
    muscles of his legs are no longer strong enough to enable him to walk freely.

    The effect is the same, the legs don't work.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-d-kelly-37ab6bb










    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 19:32:51
    On 28/01/2026 4:59 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is >>>>>>>>>> an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't
    *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade
    experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle on >>>>>>>>>> all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing >>>>>>>> but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on
    from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The
    model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. The
    Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics since
    they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic gear trains. >>>>>
    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear
    train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person.
    They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear geared
    hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling that one
    apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical bent
    would have encountered them and understood them. No need for training
    in the fundamentals.

    Not everyone. I mentioned the Raveneaux Compound gearset used in many BW
    and Aisin transmissions where the use of long and short pinions is the
    norm. I mentioned that, due to increased (doubled) axial force on the
    long pinions, they often wear through the carrier thrust bushings,
    Darren, of delusional world, pooh poohed that idea. But he had no clue.

    His problem not mine.

    A bit of IA

    ˙˙ A worn thrust bearing in the planet carrier of a Borg-Warner
    ˙˙ 35 (BW35) automatic transmission is a serious failure, often
    ˙˙ causing significant debris in the transmission pan and leading
    ˙˙ to a loss of drive in all gears. The wear is usually driven by
    ˙˙ the failure of the thrust washers situated between the
    ˙˙ planetary gear carrier and the sun gear.
    ˙˙ Here are the key details regarding the BW35 planet carrier and
    ˙˙ worn thrust bearing:
    ˙˙ Symptoms of Failure: Common signs include excessive endplay in
    ˙˙ the carrier, a rumbling noise in neutral, and in severe cases,
    ˙˙ the spider gears rubbing against the case.
    ˙˙ Cause of Wear: The bronze thrust washers/bearings between the
    ˙˙ rear planetary gear carrier and the input/sun gear wear down
    ˙˙ due to excessive axial loads.
    ˙˙ Consequences: If not addressed, the worn bearings can lead to
    ˙˙ metal shavings and chunks appearing in the oil pan. In some
    ˙˙ instances, the carrier cannot be easily repaired and must be
    ˙˙ replaced as a complete assembly.
    ˙˙ Diagnosis: During a tear-down, inspect the planetary gear
    ˙˙ carrier for severe, visible wear on the thrust faces, scoring,
    ˙˙ and excessive movement of the pins.
    ˙˙ Repair Considerations: When overhauling the BW35, it is crucial
    ˙˙ to flush the oil cooler and check all thrust faces for damage.

    Very useful information if you have that failure, but totally irrelevant
    here.

    And I remembered another place where I came across planetary gearsets;

    https://www.roadtrains.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/How-hub- reduction-differential-works_010.jpg

    Trucks, tractor and earthmover reduction hubs, saw lots of these.

    And some computer peripherals.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 19:40:08
    On 28/01/2026 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you just
    have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of things
    mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it was one of
    the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you posted seemed
    to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at all, maybe that
    would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Since sniping is your only contribution here, complaining when it is
    directed at you is pure hypocrisy.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    I leave that to xeno, he has the experience.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    Bothering is your forte, not mine.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 19:41:23
    On 28/01/2026 5:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you just
    have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of things
    mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it was one
    of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you posted
    seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at all,
    maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is
    beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely
    pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while
    ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    Can't stand the heat? The kitchen door is over there.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 21:33:35
    On 28/1/2026 8:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you
    just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of
    things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it
    was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you
    posted seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at
    all, maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here
    is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely
    pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while
    ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    Can't stand the heat? The kitchen door is over there.

    I've survived the heat in the kitchen for a very long time. I see no
    reason why that should change any time soon. FWIW, I notice that the
    heat is more than a little *subdued* of late. Emasculation seems to do
    that for those *fake heaters*.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 21:10:48
    On 28/01/2026 8:33 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you
    just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of
    things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it
    was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you
    posted seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at >>>>> all, maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here >>>>> is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely
    pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while
    ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    Can't stand the heat? The kitchen door is over there.

    I've survived the heat in the kitchen for a very long time. I see no
    reason why that should change any time soon. FWIW, I notice that the
    heat is more than a little *subdued* of late. Emasculation seems to do
    that for those *fake heaters*.

    Perhaps you have bored them to sleep, after all you haven't said
    anything new in years.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 22:23:51
    On 28/1/2026 10:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 8:33 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you
    just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of >>>>>> things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it >>>>>> was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you >>>>>> posted seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge
    at all, maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else >>>>>> here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely
    pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while
    ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    Can't stand the heat? The kitchen door is over there.

    I've survived the heat in the kitchen for a very long time. I see no
    reason why that should change any time soon. FWIW, I notice that the
    heat is more than a little *subdued* of late. Emasculation seems to do
    that for those *fake heaters*.

    Perhaps you have bored them to sleep, after all you haven't said
    anything new in years.

    Nah, the faker's lies and delusions are still broadcast, they just lack
    the bluster and bravado of former times.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 23:22:37
    On 28/01/2026 8:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:59 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Not everyone. I mentioned the Raveneaux Compound gearset used in many
    BW and Aisin transmissions where the use of long and short pinions is
    the norm. I mentioned that, due to increased (doubled) axial force on
    the long pinions, they often wear through the carrier thrust bushings,
    Darren, of delusional world, pooh poohed that idea. But he had no clue.

    His problem not mine.

    Not a problem for me, as it's not something he ever mentioned. He's
    making it up, as usual.
    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 23:40:27
    On 28/01/2026 1:55 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:20 am, Noddy wrote:

    And that's the *real* funny bit. His belief that anything he says
    impresses anyone at all :)




    This from the pleb that had to invent qualifications and a life because
    he didn't have the brains or the work ethic to ever achieve anything.

    In he runs. Straight from his latest round of fitting a snorkel and
    mudflaps. It's Windscreen boy.

    It's okay. He's not a glazier.




    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 28, 2026 23:50:11
    On 28/1/2026 11:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 8:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:59 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Not everyone. I mentioned the Raveneaux Compound gearset used in many
    BW and Aisin transmissions where the use of long and short pinions is
    the norm. I mentioned that, due to increased (doubled) axial force on
    the long pinions, they often wear through the carrier thrust
    bushings, Darren, of delusional world, pooh poohed that idea. But he
    had no clue.

    His problem not mine.

    Not a problem for me, as it's not something he ever mentioned. He's
    making it up, as usual.

    Darren, *YOU* are the *KING* of *MAKING SHIT UP*.

    Back then you knew SFA about planetary gearsets and that is still the
    case today.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 07:07:19
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you just
    have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of things
    mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it was one
    of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you posted
    seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at all,
    maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is
    beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely
    pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while
    ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Since sniping is your only contribution here, complaining when it is directed at you is pure hypocrisy.

    DATE Characteristic #5: They often/usually responding with something
    that is not only incorrect, but is also unrelated to what they are
    replying to.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 07:10:44
    Noddy wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 1:55 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:20 am, Noddy wrote:

    And that's the *real* funny bit. His belief that anything he says
    impresses anyone at all :)




    This from the pleb that had to invent qualifications and a life
    because he didn't have the brains or the work ethic to ever achieve
    anything.

    In he runs. Straight from his latest round of fitting a snorkel and mudflaps. It's Windscreen boy.

    It's okay. He's not a glazier.

    And you're not a qualified mechanic or former successful business owner.
    You win pants down Buffo.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:11:18
    On 28-Jan-26 11:40 PM, Noddy wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 1:55 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:20 am, Noddy wrote:

    And that's the *real* funny bit. His belief that anything he says
    impresses anyone at all :)




    This from the pleb that had to invent qualifications and a life
    because he didn't have the brains or the work ethic to ever achieve
    anything.

    In he runs. Straight from his latest round of fitting a snorkel and mudflaps. It's Windscreen boy.

    It's okay. He's not a glazier.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    <G>






    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 09:17:35
    On 29/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you
    just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of
    things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it
    was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you
    posted seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at
    all, maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here
    is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely
    pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while
    ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Since sniping is your only contribution here, complaining when it is
    directed at you is pure hypocrisy.

    DATE Characteristic #5: They often/usually responding with something
    that is not only incorrect, but is also unrelated to what they are
    replying to.

    Not incorrect alvo? Pissy little snipes are your stock in trade, and, as
    for unrelated, I'm not sure what you're sticking up your nose, but it
    must be the really expensive stuff.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 09:19:17
    On 28/01/2026 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 10:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 8:33 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you >>>>>>> just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of >>>>>>> things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, >>>>>>> it was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that >>>>>>> you posted seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical
    knowledge at all, maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but
    everybody else here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely >>>>>> pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while >>>>>> ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims. >>>>>>
    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    Can't stand the heat? The kitchen door is over there.

    I've survived the heat in the kitchen for a very long time. I see no
    reason why that should change any time soon. FWIW, I notice that the
    heat is more than a little *subdued* of late. Emasculation seems to
    do that for those *fake heaters*.

    Perhaps you have bored them to sleep, after all you haven't said
    anything new in years.

    Nah, the faker's lies and delusions are still broadcast, they just lack
    the bluster and bravado of former times.

    Everybody is losing interest in the boring repetitive crap that you post
    all the time.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:22:45
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is >>>>>>>>> an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't *worked* >>>>>>>>> in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully occupied in >>>>>>>>> trade training since. According to the logic of some posters >>>>>>>>> here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade experience* since >>>>>>>>> 1991. Funny how John really has a handle on all his trade stuff >>>>>>>>> though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing >>>>>>> but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on from >>>>>> a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The
    model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. The
    Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics since
    they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic gear trains. >>>>
    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear
    train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person. They
    are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear geared
    hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling that one
    apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical bent
    would have encountered them and understood them. No need for training in
    the fundamentals.


    Pretty much why I only watched the start of the video, if and its a very
    big if I ever need to work on such a trans I might bother to take a
    closer look.

    --
    Daryl

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:27:50
    On 28/1/2026 8:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:59 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly >>>>>>>>>>> is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't >>>>>>>>>>> *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade
    experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle on >>>>>>>>>>> all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, >>>>>>>>>
    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove
    nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on >>>>>>>> from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The >>>>>> model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. The >>>>>> Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics since
    they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic gear
    trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear
    train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person.
    They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear
    geared hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling
    that one apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical bent
    would have encountered them and understood them. No need for training
    in the fundamentals.

    Not everyone. I mentioned the Raveneaux Compound gearset used in many
    BW and Aisin transmissions where the use of long and short pinions is
    the norm. I mentioned that, due to increased (doubled) axial force on
    the long pinions, they often wear through the carrier thrust bushings,
    Darren, of delusional world, pooh poohed that idea. But he had no clue.

    His problem not mine.

    A bit of IA

    ˙˙˙ A worn thrust bearing in the planet carrier of a Borg-Warner
    ˙˙˙ 35 (BW35) automatic transmission is a serious failure, often
    ˙˙˙ causing significant debris in the transmission pan and leading
    ˙˙˙ to a loss of drive in all gears. The wear is usually driven by
    ˙˙˙ the failure of the thrust washers situated between the
    ˙˙˙ planetary gear carrier and the sun gear.
    ˙˙˙ Here are the key details regarding the BW35 planet carrier and
    ˙˙˙ worn thrust bearing:
    ˙˙˙ Symptoms of Failure: Common signs include excessive endplay in
    ˙˙˙ the carrier, a rumbling noise in neutral, and in severe cases,
    ˙˙˙ the spider gears rubbing against the case.
    ˙˙˙ Cause of Wear: The bronze thrust washers/bearings between the
    ˙˙˙ rear planetary gear carrier and the input/sun gear wear down
    ˙˙˙ due to excessive axial loads.
    ˙˙˙ Consequences: If not addressed, the worn bearings can lead to
    ˙˙˙ metal shavings and chunks appearing in the oil pan. In some
    ˙˙˙ instances, the carrier cannot be easily repaired and must be
    ˙˙˙ replaced as a complete assembly.
    ˙˙˙ Diagnosis: During a tear-down, inspect the planetary gear
    ˙˙˙ carrier for severe, visible wear on the thrust faces, scoring,
    ˙˙˙ and excessive movement of the pins.
    ˙˙˙ Repair Considerations: When overhauling the BW35, it is crucial
    ˙˙˙ to flush the oil cooler and check all thrust faces for damage.

    Very useful information if you have that failure, but totally irrelevant here.

    LOL, can't be too many BW35's in daily use since they stopped being
    fitted to new cars more than 40yrs ago.



    --
    Daryl

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 12:28:56
    On 29/1/2026 10:17 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you
    just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of
    things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it
    was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you
    posted seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at >>>>> all, maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here >>>>> is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely
    pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while
    ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Since sniping is your only contribution here, complaining when it is
    directed at you is pure hypocrisy.

    DATE Characteristic #5: They often/usually responding with something
    that is not only incorrect, but is also unrelated to what they are
    replying to.

    Not incorrect alvo? Pissy little snipes are your stock in trade, and, as
    for unrelated, I'm not sure what you're sticking up your nose, but it
    must be the really expensive stuff.

    Sounds like you speak from *hands on* experience.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 12:32:33
    On 29/1/2026 10:19 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 10:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 8:33 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you >>>>>>>> just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge >>>>>>>> of things mechanical. I found the video when researching the
    RAV4, it was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The >>>>>>>> one that you posted seemed to be aimed at people with no
    mechanical knowledge at all, maybe that would be relevant to
    alvey, but everybody else here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an
    entirely pissy snipe at someone for something they've never
    claimed, while ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain >>>>>>> of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    Can't stand the heat? The kitchen door is over there.

    I've survived the heat in the kitchen for a very long time. I see no
    reason why that should change any time soon. FWIW, I notice that the
    heat is more than a little *subdued* of late. Emasculation seems to
    do that for those *fake heaters*.

    Perhaps you have bored them to sleep, after all you haven't said
    anything new in years.

    Nah, the faker's lies and delusions are still broadcast, they just
    lack the bluster and bravado of former times.

    Everybody is losing interest in the boring repetitive crap that you post
    all the time.

    Darren has the power to make me leave - he needs only come up with
    irrefutable proof of his claims - and you would have to think that he
    would really want to do that, passionately so! But he doesn't? There can
    be but one reason for him to keep his proof to himself - it's
    *imaginary*, just like his business and trade quals.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 12:35:05
    On 29/1/2026 10:22 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly is >>>>>>>>>> an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't
    *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade
    experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle on >>>>>>>>>> all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor,

    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove nothing >>>>>>>> but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on
    from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The
    model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. The
    Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics since
    they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic gear trains. >>>>>
    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear
    train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person.
    They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear geared
    hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling that one
    apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical bent
    would have encountered them and understood them. No need for training
    in the fundamentals.


    Pretty much why I only watched the start of the video, if and its a very
    big if I ever need to work on such a trans I might bother to take a
    closer look.

    You won't ever work on such a unit. Need high voltage training and certification before you could even go near one - plus you need all the special gear.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 12:38:53
    On 29/1/2026 10:27 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:59 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly >>>>>>>>>>>> is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't >>>>>>>>>>>> *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade >>>>>>>>>>>> experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle >>>>>>>>>>>> on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, >>>>>>>>>>
    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove
    nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on >>>>>>>>> from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The >>>>>>> model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool.
    The Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics
    since they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic >>>>>>> gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear
    train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person.
    They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear
    geared hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling
    that one apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical
    bent would have encountered them and understood them. No need for
    training in the fundamentals.

    Not everyone. I mentioned the Raveneaux Compound gearset used in many
    BW and Aisin transmissions where the use of long and short pinions is
    the norm. I mentioned that, due to increased (doubled) axial force on
    the long pinions, they often wear through the carrier thrust
    bushings, Darren, of delusional world, pooh poohed that idea. But he
    had no clue.

    His problem not mine.

    A bit of IA

    ˙˙˙ A worn thrust bearing in the planet carrier of a Borg-Warner
    ˙˙˙ 35 (BW35) automatic transmission is a serious failure, often
    ˙˙˙ causing significant debris in the transmission pan and leading
    ˙˙˙ to a loss of drive in all gears. The wear is usually driven by
    ˙˙˙ the failure of the thrust washers situated between the
    ˙˙˙ planetary gear carrier and the sun gear.
    ˙˙˙ Here are the key details regarding the BW35 planet carrier and
    ˙˙˙ worn thrust bearing:
    ˙˙˙ Symptoms of Failure: Common signs include excessive endplay in
    ˙˙˙ the carrier, a rumbling noise in neutral, and in severe cases,
    ˙˙˙ the spider gears rubbing against the case.
    ˙˙˙ Cause of Wear: The bronze thrust washers/bearings between the
    ˙˙˙ rear planetary gear carrier and the input/sun gear wear down
    ˙˙˙ due to excessive axial loads.
    ˙˙˙ Consequences: If not addressed, the worn bearings can lead to
    ˙˙˙ metal shavings and chunks appearing in the oil pan. In some
    ˙˙˙ instances, the carrier cannot be easily repaired and must be
    ˙˙˙ replaced as a complete assembly.
    ˙˙˙ Diagnosis: During a tear-down, inspect the planetary gear
    ˙˙˙ carrier for severe, visible wear on the thrust faces, scoring,
    ˙˙˙ and excessive movement of the pins.
    ˙˙˙ Repair Considerations: When overhauling the BW35, it is crucial
    ˙˙˙ to flush the oil cooler and check all thrust faces for damage.

    Very useful information if you have that failure, but totally
    irrelevant here.

    LOL, can't be too many BW35's in daily use since they stopped being
    fitted to new cars more than 40yrs ago.

    The Ravineaux compound planetary gearset is still used on conventional
    4+ speed autos. Wife Swift had an Aisin 4 speed in it - with the
    obligatory Ravineaux gearset. Same issues apply to them as they did to
    the BW35 but the lifespan is much longer. No longer use bands you see.
    The bands were the real weak point. Now all such trans use multiplate
    clutches and brakes instead of bands.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:14:38
    On 29/01/2026 9:28 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:17 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you
    just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of >>>>>> things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it >>>>>> was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you >>>>>> posted seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge
    at all, maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else >>>>>> here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely
    pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while
    ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Since sniping is your only contribution here, complaining when it is
    directed at you is pure hypocrisy.

    DATE Characteristic #5: They often/usually responding with something
    that is not only incorrect, but is also unrelated to what they are
    replying to.

    Not incorrect alvo? Pissy little snipes are your stock in trade, and,
    as for unrelated, I'm not sure what you're sticking up your nose, but
    it must be the really expensive stuff.

    Sounds like you speak from *hands on* experience.



    It would go some way towards explaining why the "programmer' is so
    devoid of logic and comprehension.

    He's cooked.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 13:26:54
    On 29/1/2026 10:27 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:59 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly >>>>>>>>>>>> is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't >>>>>>>>>>>> *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade >>>>>>>>>>>> experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle >>>>>>>>>>>> on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, >>>>>>>>>>
    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove
    nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on >>>>>>>>> from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The >>>>>>> model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool.
    The Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics
    since they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic >>>>>>> gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear
    train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person.
    They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear
    geared hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling
    that one apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical
    bent would have encountered them and understood them. No need for
    training in the fundamentals.

    Not everyone. I mentioned the Raveneaux Compound gearset used in many
    BW and Aisin transmissions where the use of long and short pinions is
    the norm. I mentioned that, due to increased (doubled) axial force on
    the long pinions, they often wear through the carrier thrust
    bushings, Darren, of delusional world, pooh poohed that idea. But he
    had no clue.

    His problem not mine.

    A bit of IA

    ˙˙˙ A worn thrust bearing in the planet carrier of a Borg-Warner
    ˙˙˙ 35 (BW35) automatic transmission is a serious failure, often
    ˙˙˙ causing significant debris in the transmission pan and leading
    ˙˙˙ to a loss of drive in all gears. The wear is usually driven by
    ˙˙˙ the failure of the thrust washers situated between the
    ˙˙˙ planetary gear carrier and the sun gear.
    ˙˙˙ Here are the key details regarding the BW35 planet carrier and
    ˙˙˙ worn thrust bearing:
    ˙˙˙ Symptoms of Failure: Common signs include excessive endplay in
    ˙˙˙ the carrier, a rumbling noise in neutral, and in severe cases,
    ˙˙˙ the spider gears rubbing against the case.
    ˙˙˙ Cause of Wear: The bronze thrust washers/bearings between the
    ˙˙˙ rear planetary gear carrier and the input/sun gear wear down
    ˙˙˙ due to excessive axial loads.
    ˙˙˙ Consequences: If not addressed, the worn bearings can lead to
    ˙˙˙ metal shavings and chunks appearing in the oil pan. In some
    ˙˙˙ instances, the carrier cannot be easily repaired and must be
    ˙˙˙ replaced as a complete assembly.
    ˙˙˙ Diagnosis: During a tear-down, inspect the planetary gear
    ˙˙˙ carrier for severe, visible wear on the thrust faces, scoring,
    ˙˙˙ and excessive movement of the pins.
    ˙˙˙ Repair Considerations: When overhauling the BW35, it is crucial
    ˙˙˙ to flush the oil cooler and check all thrust faces for damage.

    Very useful information if you have that failure, but totally
    irrelevant here.

    LOL, can't be too many BW35's in daily use since they stopped being
    fitted to new cars more than 40yrs ago.

    A bit of AI for you..

    AI Overview
    Based on the provided search results, Ravigneaux gearsets (or variations
    of them) are still used in modern automatic transmissions, often
    combined with other gearsets to achieve 6-to-9 speeds, rather than in
    their original 4-speed configuration.
    Aisin 8-Speed Automatic (AWF8F35/EAT8): Used in various Peugeot,
    Citro‰n, DS, and Opel/Vauxhall models, this widely used, modern
    transverse transmission utilizes a Ravigneaux gearset combined with a
    simple planetary gearset to achieve its 8-speed range.
    Mercedes-Benz 7G-Tronic (W7A 700): While introduced in the mid-2000s,
    this transmission and its "Plus" variant continue to be used and rely on
    a modified (or inverse) Ravigneaux gearset combined with two simple
    planetary gearsets.
    ZF 6-Speed Automatic (6HP): While largely replaced by 8-speeds, some
    6-speed ZF transmissions, based on the Lepelletier concept (which
    includes a Ravigneaux gearset), are still in use or production.
    Modern Torque Vectoring Differentials (TVD): Recent, advanced, and
    emerging designs for vehicle torque vectoring (such as those studied for high-performance applications) are using Ravigneaux gearsets to reduce
    weight and space in the differential.
    While older, 4-speed Ravigneaux transmissions like the Ford AOD/4R70W
    are largely obsolete, the core design principles continue to be used in modern, multi-speed, transverse transmissions.

    -------------------

    I'll look up the specs on the Benz unit for *YOUR* edification.

    ------------------

    The Mercedes-Benz 7G-Tronic (W7A 700), also known by the internal code
    722.9, is a high-performance 7-speed longitudinal automatic
    transmission. Introduced in 2003, it was the world?s first 7-speed
    automatic used in production passenger vehicles.
    Technical Specifications
    Torque Capacity: The "700" in its name signifies a maximum input torque capacity of 700 N?m (516 lb?ft).
    Weight Reduction: It was the first in the industry to feature a
    magnesium alloy casing to save weight.
    Gears: It features 7 forward gears and 2 reverse gears.
    Internal Components: It uses 3 planetary gearsets (including one
    Ravigneaux gearset), 3 multi-disc clutches, and 4 multi-disc brakes.
    Key Features
    Skip-Gear Downshifting: For faster acceleration, the transmission can
    skip several gears when downshifting (e.g., from 7th directly to 5th).
    Full Torque Lock-up: The torque converter lock-up clutch can engage in
    all seven forward gears, improving fuel efficiency and power delivery. Adaptability: The integrated Transmission Control Unit (TCU) learns and adjusts shift points based on the owner's driving style.
    Evolution & Successor
    7G-Tronic Plus: An updated version launched around 2010/2011, featuring
    a more efficient torque converter and support for start-stop systems. 9G-Tronic: The 7G-Tronic series was eventually succeeded by the
    9G-Tronic (W9A 700) beginning in 2013.

    ---------------------

    The Ravineaux gearset makes for a very compact transmission, ideal for
    FWD vehicles. Also makes for a compact transfer case on Benz ML series.

    https://s19531.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Mercedes-Transmission.png

    In summary, the Ravineaux Compound Planetary Gearset is a concept that
    has wide applicability, it is not obsolete, I just used the BW35 as the
    prime example of where they could and did go wrong.

    It would seem you aren't experienced at all with auto trans.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 10:37:02
    On 29/01/2026 5:10 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 1:55 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:20 am, Noddy wrote:

    And that's the *real* funny bit. His belief that anything he says
    impresses anyone at all :)




    This from the pleb that had to invent qualifications and a life
    because he didn't have the brains or the work ethic to ever achieve
    anything.

    In he runs. Straight from his latest round of fitting a snorkel and
    mudflaps. It's Windscreen boy.

    It's okay. He's not a glazier.

    And you're not a qualified mechanic or former successful business owner.
    You win pants down Buffo.


    LOL, beat me to it.

    I seem to have hit a nerve.

    He can't even service his own cars while they are under warranty and
    there is a very good reason for that... why would anyone let some
    unqualified gronk like "Noddy" who can't use a scan tool or even tell
    the difference between metric and imperial loose on their vehicles?

    They would be mad.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 13:39:35
    On 29/01/2026 11:32 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:19 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 10:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 8:33 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, >>>>>>>>> you just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some
    knowledge of things mechanical. I found the video when
    researching the RAV4, it was one of the reasons that I decided >>>>>>>>> to buy one. The one that you posted seemed to be aimed at
    people with no mechanical knowledge at all, maybe that would be >>>>>>>>> relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is beyond that point. >>>>>>>>
    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an
    entirely pissy snipe at someone for something they've never
    claimed, while ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a
    mountain of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    Can't stand the heat? The kitchen door is over there.

    I've survived the heat in the kitchen for a very long time. I see
    no reason why that should change any time soon. FWIW, I notice that >>>>> the heat is more than a little *subdued* of late. Emasculation
    seems to do that for those *fake heaters*.

    Perhaps you have bored them to sleep, after all you haven't said
    anything new in years.

    Nah, the faker's lies and delusions are still broadcast, they just
    lack the bluster and bravado of former times.

    Everybody is losing interest in the boring repetitive crap that you
    post all the time.

    Darren has the power to make me leave - he needs only come up with irrefutable proof of his claims - and you would have to think that he
    would really want to do that, passionately so! But he doesn't? There can
    be but one reason for him to keep his proof to himself - it's
    *imaginary*, just like his business and trade quals.

    How long has that been the case? Do you ever expect that it will ever
    change? Maybe, like me, he doesn't respond to demands.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 13:40:33
    On 29/01/2026 11:28 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:17 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you
    just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of >>>>>> things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, it >>>>>> was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that you >>>>>> posted seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge
    at all, maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else >>>>>> here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely
    pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while
    ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims.

    Since sniping is your only contribution here, complaining when it is
    directed at you is pure hypocrisy.

    DATE Characteristic #5: They often/usually responding with something
    that is not only incorrect, but is also unrelated to what they are
    replying to.

    Not incorrect alvo? Pissy little snipes are your stock in trade, and,
    as for unrelated, I'm not sure what you're sticking up your nose, but
    it must be the really expensive stuff.

    Sounds like you speak from *hands on* experience.

    You her strange sounds, they probably come from inside your head.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 13:41:25
    On 29/01/2026 12:14 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 9:28 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:17 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you >>>>>>> just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of >>>>>>> things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, >>>>>>> it was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that >>>>>>> you posted seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical
    knowledge at all, maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but
    everybody else here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely >>>>>> pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while >>>>>> ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims. >>>>>
    Since sniping is your only contribution here, complaining when it
    is directed at you is pure hypocrisy.

    DATE Characteristic #5: They often/usually responding with something
    that is not only incorrect, but is also unrelated to what they are
    replying to.

    Not incorrect alvo? Pissy little snipes are your stock in trade, and,
    as for unrelated, I'm not sure what you're sticking up your nose, but
    it must be the really expensive stuff.

    Sounds like you speak from *hands on* experience.



    It would go some way towards explaining why the "programmer' is so
    devoid of logic and comprehension.

    He's cooked.


    Clocky is a good name for you, you are as predictable as one.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 13:47:09
    On 29/01/2026 11:35 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:22 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly >>>>>>>>>>> is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't >>>>>>>>>>> *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade
    experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle on >>>>>>>>>>> all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, >>>>>>>>>
    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove
    nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on >>>>>>>> from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The >>>>>> model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. The >>>>>> Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics since
    they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic gear
    trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear
    train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person.
    They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear
    geared hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling
    that one apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical bent
    would have encountered them and understood them. No need for training
    in the fundamentals.


    Pretty much why I only watched the start of the video, if and its a
    very big if I ever need to work on such a trans I might bother to take
    a closer look.

    You won't ever work on such a unit. Need high voltage training and certification before you could even go near one - plus you need all the special gear.

    Anyone can work on one as long as it isn't for profit. Nobody is going
    to stop you working on your own vehicle. Whether that would be a wise
    move depends on your own knowledge and skill.

    Incidentally, since the unit has to have it's own cooling system, it
    would seem that there are some significant losses in there.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 13:50:49
    On 29/01/2026 1:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:28 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:17 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you >>>>>>> just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge of >>>>>>> things mechanical. I found the video when researching the RAV4, >>>>>>> it was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The one that >>>>>>> you posted seemed to be aimed at people with no mechanical
    knowledge at all, maybe that would be relevant to alvey, but
    everybody else here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an entirely >>>>>> pissy snipe at someone for something they've never claimed, while >>>>>> ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain of false claims. >>>>>
    Since sniping is your only contribution here, complaining when it
    is directed at you is pure hypocrisy.

    DATE Characteristic #5: They often/usually responding with something
    that is not only incorrect, but is also unrelated to what they are
    replying to.

    Not incorrect alvo? Pissy little snipes are your stock in trade, and,
    as for unrelated, I'm not sure what you're sticking up your nose, but
    it must be the really expensive stuff.

    Sounds like you speak from *hands on* experience.

    You her strange sounds, they probably come from inside your head.

    Oh dear, the "a" key went missing, so before the snipers can lock and load:-

    You hear strange sounds, they probably come from inside your head.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 15:34:14
    On 29/1/2026 2:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:35 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:22 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly >>>>>>>>>>>> is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't >>>>>>>>>>>> *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade >>>>>>>>>>>> experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle >>>>>>>>>>>> on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, >>>>>>>>>>
    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove
    nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on >>>>>>>>> from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The >>>>>>> model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool.
    The Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics
    since they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic >>>>>>> gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear
    train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person.
    They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear
    geared hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling
    that one apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical
    bent would have encountered them and understood them. No need for
    training in the fundamentals.


    Pretty much why I only watched the start of the video, if and its a
    very big if I ever need to work on such a trans I might bother to
    take a closer look.

    You won't ever work on such a unit. Need high voltage training and
    certification before you could even go near one - plus you need all
    the special gear.

    Anyone can work on one as long as it isn't for profit. Nobody is going
    to stop you working on your own vehicle.

    Exactly.

    Whether that would be a wise
    move depends on your own knowledge and skill.

    Correct, I've worked on far more complicated things than that trans but
    the chances of anyone asking us to work on a hybrid is pretty slim, I do
    know a few people that own hybrids but their vehicles are relatively new
    so not likely to need much work and I'd rather work on something much
    more interesting such as older race/sports cars.


    Incidentally, since the unit has to have it's own cooling system, it
    would seem that there are some significant losses in there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJtly3_swJs

    The fault that killed the above EV is cooling related, IMHO not a very
    clever bit of design.

    --
    Daryl

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 12:39:39
    On 29/01/2026 11:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 12:14 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 9:28 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:17 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, you >>>>>>>> just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some knowledge >>>>>>>> of things mechanical. I found the video when researching the
    RAV4, it was one of the reasons that I decided to buy one. The >>>>>>>> one that you posted seemed to be aimed at people with no
    mechanical knowledge at all, maybe that would be relevant to
    alvey, but everybody else here is beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an
    entirely pissy snipe at someone for something they've never
    claimed, while ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a mountain >>>>>>> of false claims.

    Since sniping is your only contribution here, complaining when it >>>>>> is directed at you is pure hypocrisy.

    DATE Characteristic #5: They often/usually responding with
    something that is not only incorrect, but is also unrelated to what >>>>> they are replying to.

    Not incorrect alvo? Pissy little snipes are your stock in trade,
    and, as for unrelated, I'm not sure what you're sticking up your
    nose, but it must be the really expensive stuff.

    Sounds like you speak from *hands on* experience.



    It would go some way towards explaining why the "programmer' is so
    devoid of logic and comprehension.

    He's cooked.


    Clocky is a good name for you, you are as predictable as one.

    I'm accurate and precise.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 16:02:22
    On 29/1/2026 2:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:32 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:19 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 10:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 8:33 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, >>>>>>>>>> you just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some
    knowledge of things mechanical. I found the video when
    researching the RAV4, it was one of the reasons that I decided >>>>>>>>>> to buy one. The one that you posted seemed to be aimed at >>>>>>>>>> people with no mechanical knowledge at all, maybe that would >>>>>>>>>> be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is beyond that >>>>>>>>>> point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an
    entirely pissy snipe at someone for something they've never >>>>>>>>> claimed, while ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a
    mountain of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are.

    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    Can't stand the heat? The kitchen door is over there.

    I've survived the heat in the kitchen for a very long time. I see >>>>>> no reason why that should change any time soon. FWIW, I notice
    that the heat is more than a little *subdued* of late.
    Emasculation seems to do that for those *fake heaters*.

    Perhaps you have bored them to sleep, after all you haven't said
    anything new in years.

    Nah, the faker's lies and delusions are still broadcast, they just
    lack the bluster and bravado of former times.

    Everybody is losing interest in the boring repetitive crap that you
    post all the time.

    Darren has the power to make me leave - he needs only come up with
    irrefutable proof of his claims - and you would have to think that he
    would really want to do that, passionately so! But he doesn't? There
    can be but one reason for him to keep his proof to himself - it's
    *imaginary*, just like his business and trade quals.

    How long has that been the case? Do you ever expect that it will ever change?
    Of course it won't change, I don't expect it too. You see, I *know* his
    claims are all 100% rolled gold bullshit. His claims didn't even make
    sense in the telling. But I can still ask to see proof. That he doesn't proffer any tells anyone and everyone that he is full of shit.



    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 16:14:12
    On 29/1/2026 2:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:35 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:22 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly >>>>>>>>>>>> is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't >>>>>>>>>>>> *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade >>>>>>>>>>>> experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle >>>>>>>>>>>> on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, >>>>>>>>>>
    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove
    nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on >>>>>>>>> from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The >>>>>>> model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool.
    The Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics
    since they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic >>>>>>> gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear
    train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person.
    They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear
    geared hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling
    that one apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical
    bent would have encountered them and understood them. No need for
    training in the fundamentals.


    Pretty much why I only watched the start of the video, if and its a
    very big if I ever need to work on such a trans I might bother to
    take a closer look.

    You won't ever work on such a unit. Need high voltage training and
    certification before you could even go near one - plus you need all
    the special gear.

    Anyone can work on one as long as it isn't for profit. Nobody is going
    to stop you working on your own vehicle. Whether that would be a wise
    move depends on your own knowledge and skill.

    Nope, if you want your warranty null and void, work on your own vehicle without qualifications and see what happens. And, given we are in the
    era of 5+ year warranties, that could be an expensive proposition.

    Incidentally, since the unit has to have it's own cooling system, it
    would seem that there are some significant losses in there.

    FFS, it has an electric motor or two embedded in there! In the Toyota
    Hybrid Synergy Drive systems (such as in my Corolla and your RAV4), MG1
    (Motor Generator 1) runs inside the transmission housing and is both lubricated and cooled by the automatic transmission fluid within that transaxle. The transaxle, which contains both MG1 and MG2, is a sealed
    unit where the electric motors are run in oil to dissipate heat
    generated during high-speed operation, such as when MG1 acts as a
    generator or engine starter. It uses automatic transmission fluid to
    lubricate the planetary gears and cool the motor windings.

    You saw the video by John D Kelly, you saw where the motors were
    mounted, yet you didn't get that concept? Not as smart as you thought, eh?

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 07:38:26
    Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 2:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:35 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:22 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly >>>>>>>>>>>>> is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade >>>>>>>>>>>>> experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle >>>>>>>>>>>>> on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, >>>>>>>>>>>
    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove >>>>>>>>>>> nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on >>>>>>>>>> from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The >>>>>>>> model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. >>>>>>>> The Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics >>>>>>>> since they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic >>>>>>>> gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear >>>>>>> train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person. >>>>>>> They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear
    geared hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling >>>>>> that one apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical
    bent would have encountered them and understood them. No need for
    training in the fundamentals.


    Pretty much why I only watched the start of the video, if and its a
    very big if I ever need to work on such a trans I might bother to
    take a closer look.

    You won't ever work on such a unit. Need high voltage training and
    certification before you could even go near one - plus you need all
    the special gear.

    Anyone can work on one as long as it isn't for profit. Nobody is going
    to stop you working on your own vehicle. Whether that would be a wise
    move depends on your own knowledge and skill.

    Nope, if you want your warranty null and void, work on your own vehicle without qualifications and see what happens. And, given we are in the
    era of 5+ year warranties, that could be an expensive proposition.

    Incidentally, since the unit has to have it's own cooling system, it
    would seem that there are some significant losses in there.

    FFS, it has an electric motor or two embedded in there! In the Toyota
    Hybrid Synergy Drive systems (such as in my Corolla and your RAV4), MG1 (Motor Generator 1) runs inside the transmission housing and is both lubricated and cooled by the automatic transmission fluid within that transaxle. The transaxle, which contains both MG1 and MG2, is a sealed
    unit where the electric motors are run in oil to dissipate heat
    generated during high-speed operation, such as when MG1 acts as a
    generator or engine starter. It uses automatic transmission fluid to lubricate the planetary gears and cool the motor windings.

    You saw the video by John D Kelly, you saw where the motors were
    mounted, yet you didn't get that concept? Not as smart as you thought, eh?

    BTW, I should mention at this juncture that conventional autos generate
    heaps of heat but bugger all is from the planetary gearsets. It?s the
    torque converter that generates heat but only when the unit is multiplying torque. That would be when the impeller is running faster than the turbine
    and the stator redirecting flow. You can definitely ascertain that by
    looking at the trans plumbing. The torque converter generally drains into
    the trans cooler before returning the oil to the sump. In the case of
    lock-up torque converters, the oil drain is shut off, the body of the
    torque converter pressurises and apples the TC clutch. From that point the impeller, stator and turbine rotate as a unit generating no heat and
    therefore no oil flows to the trans cooler. No additional cooling is
    required beyond radiation to and from the casing.

    HTH


    --
    Xeno

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 17:55:54
    On 29/01/2026 3:14 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 2:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:35 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:22 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly >>>>>>>>>>>>> is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade >>>>>>>>>>>>> experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle >>>>>>>>>>>>> on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, >>>>>>>>>>>
    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove >>>>>>>>>>> nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on >>>>>>>>>> from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. >>>>>>>> The model used in the other video made for a better teaching
    tool. The Weber State video is more suited to training for
    mechanics since they already know all the fundamentals of, say, >>>>>>>> epicyclic gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear >>>>>>> train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person. >>>>>>> They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear
    geared hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling >>>>>> that one apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical
    bent would have encountered them and understood them. No need for
    training in the fundamentals.


    Pretty much why I only watched the start of the video, if and its a
    very big if I ever need to work on such a trans I might bother to
    take a closer look.

    You won't ever work on such a unit. Need high voltage training and
    certification before you could even go near one - plus you need all
    the special gear.

    Anyone can work on one as long as it isn't for profit. Nobody is going
    to stop you working on your own vehicle. Whether that would be a wise
    move depends on your own knowledge and skill.

    Nope, if you want your warranty null and void, work on your own vehicle without qualifications and see what happens. And, given we are in the
    era of 5+ year warranties, that could be an expensive proposition.

    Incidentally, since the unit has to have it's own cooling system, it
    would seem that there are some significant losses in there.

    FFS, it has an electric motor or two embedded in there! In the Toyota
    Hybrid Synergy Drive systems (such as in my Corolla and your RAV4), MG1 (Motor Generator 1) runs inside the transmission housing and is both lubricated and cooled by the automatic transmission fluid within that transaxle. The transaxle, which contains both MG1 and MG2, is a sealed
    unit where the electric motors are run in oil to dissipate heat
    generated during high-speed operation, such as when MG1 acts as a
    generator or engine starter. It uses automatic transmission fluid to lubricate the planetary gears and cool the motor windings.

    I know exactly how it works, it's not rocket science, and I strongly
    suspect that I've had a lot more experience with 3 phase electric motors
    than you. Maybe your Corolla is different, but the RAV 4 has a separate cooling system for the hybrid control unit, which would imply that there
    is a lot of heat being generated there, which, in turn, means that
    energy is going to waste.

    You saw the video by John D Kelly, you saw where the motors were
    mounted, yet you didn't get that concept? Not as smart as you thought, eh?

    I don't know it it is possible for your unearned superiority complex to
    get more smug that this.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 17:56:31
    On 29/01/2026 5:38 pm, Xeno wrote:
    Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 2:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:35 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:22 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John Kelly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He hasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having been fully >>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupied in trade training since. According to the logic of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some posters here, John hasn't had any *relevant trade >>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience* since 1991. Funny how John really has a handle >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on all his trade stuff though, isn't it?

    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove >>>>>>>>>>>> nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on >>>>>>>>>>> from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. The >>>>>>>>> model used in the other video made for a better teaching tool. >>>>>>>>> The Weber State video is more suited to training for mechanics >>>>>>>>> since they already know all the fundamentals of, say, epicyclic >>>>>>>>> gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear >>>>>>>> train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person. >>>>>>>> They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear
    geared hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling >>>>>>> that one apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical
    bent would have encountered them and understood them. No need for
    training in the fundamentals.


    Pretty much why I only watched the start of the video, if and its a
    very big if I ever need to work on such a trans I might bother to
    take a closer look.

    You won't ever work on such a unit. Need high voltage training and
    certification before you could even go near one - plus you need all
    the special gear.

    Anyone can work on one as long as it isn't for profit. Nobody is going
    to stop you working on your own vehicle. Whether that would be a wise
    move depends on your own knowledge and skill.

    Nope, if you want your warranty null and void, work on your own vehicle
    without qualifications and see what happens. And, given we are in the
    era of 5+ year warranties, that could be an expensive proposition.

    Incidentally, since the unit has to have it's own cooling system, it
    would seem that there are some significant losses in there.

    FFS, it has an electric motor or two embedded in there! In the Toyota
    Hybrid Synergy Drive systems (such as in my Corolla and your RAV4), MG1
    (Motor Generator 1) runs inside the transmission housing and is both
    lubricated and cooled by the automatic transmission fluid within that
    transaxle. The transaxle, which contains both MG1 and MG2, is a sealed
    unit where the electric motors are run in oil to dissipate heat
    generated during high-speed operation, such as when MG1 acts as a
    generator or engine starter. It uses automatic transmission fluid to
    lubricate the planetary gears and cool the motor windings.

    You saw the video by John D Kelly, you saw where the motors were
    mounted, yet you didn't get that concept? Not as smart as you thought, eh? >>
    BTW, I should mention at this juncture that conventional autos generate
    heaps of heat but bugger all is from the planetary gearsets. It?s the
    torque converter that generates heat but only when the unit is multiplying torque. That would be when the impeller is running faster than the turbine and the stator redirecting flow. You can definitely ascertain that by
    looking at the trans plumbing. The torque converter generally drains into
    the trans cooler before returning the oil to the sump. In the case of
    lock-up torque converters, the oil drain is shut off, the body of the
    torque converter pressurises and apples the TC clutch. From that point the impeller, stator and turbine rotate as a unit generating no heat and therefore no oil flows to the trans cooler. No additional cooling is
    required beyond radiation to and from the casing.

    <Yawn>

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 17:57:43
    On 29/01/2026 3:02 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 2:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:32 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:19 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 10:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 8:33 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, >>>>>>>>>>> you just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some >>>>>>>>>>> knowledge of things mechanical. I found the video when
    researching the RAV4, it was one of the reasons that I
    decided to buy one. The one that you posted seemed to be >>>>>>>>>>> aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at all, maybe >>>>>>>>>>> that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is >>>>>>>>>>> beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an >>>>>>>>>> entirely pissy snipe at someone for something they've never >>>>>>>>>> claimed, while ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a
    mountain of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are. >>>>>>>>>>
    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    Can't stand the heat? The kitchen door is over there.

    I've survived the heat in the kitchen for a very long time. I see >>>>>>> no reason why that should change any time soon. FWIW, I notice
    that the heat is more than a little *subdued* of late.
    Emasculation seems to do that for those *fake heaters*.

    Perhaps you have bored them to sleep, after all you haven't said
    anything new in years.

    Nah, the faker's lies and delusions are still broadcast, they just
    lack the bluster and bravado of former times.

    Everybody is losing interest in the boring repetitive crap that you
    post all the time.

    Darren has the power to make me leave - he needs only come up with
    irrefutable proof of his claims - and you would have to think that he
    would really want to do that, passionately so! But he doesn't? There
    can be but one reason for him to keep his proof to himself - it's
    *imaginary*, just like his business and trade quals.

    How long has that been the case? Do you ever expect that it will ever
    change?
    Of course it won't change, I don't expect it too. You see, I *know* his claims are all 100% rolled gold bullshit. His claims didn't even make
    sense in the telling. But I can still ask to see proof. That he doesn't proffer any tells anyone and everyone that he is full of shit.

    You have never "Asked" for anything, you've just demanded.

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 17:58:10
    On 29/01/2026 2:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 12:14 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 9:28 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:17 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 4:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, >>>>>>>>> you just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some
    knowledge of things mechanical. I found the video when
    researching the RAV4, it was one of the reasons that I decided >>>>>>>>> to buy one. The one that you posted seemed to be aimed at
    people with no mechanical knowledge at all, maybe that would be >>>>>>>>> relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is beyond that point. >>>>>>>>
    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an
    entirely pissy snipe at someone for something they've never
    claimed, while ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a
    mountain of false claims.

    Since sniping is your only contribution here, complaining when it >>>>>>> is directed at you is pure hypocrisy.

    DATE Characteristic #5: They often/usually responding with
    something that is not only incorrect, but is also unrelated to
    what they are replying to.

    Not incorrect alvo? Pissy little snipes are your stock in trade,
    and, as for unrelated, I'm not sure what you're sticking up your
    nose, but it must be the really expensive stuff.

    Sounds like you speak from *hands on* experience.



    It would go some way towards explaining why the "programmer' is so
    devoid of logic and comprehension.

    He's cooked.


    Clocky is a good name for you, you are as predictable as one.

    I'm accurate and precise.

    Nope you need winding up.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 19:35:44
    On 29/1/2026 6:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 3:14 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 2:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:35 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:22 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 10:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 9:44 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 8:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 27/1/2026 7:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 3:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 27/01/2026 6:36 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 26/1/2026 10:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 26/01/2026 7:04 pm, Xeno wrote:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmxIsoV_Xo


    This one is more practical

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61WihMRdjM

    WeberAuto are always practical. Remember though, John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kelly is an *automotive trade teacher* by profession. He >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hasn't *worked* in the *auto trade* since 1991, having >>>>>>>>>>>>>> been fully occupied in trade training since. According to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the logic of some posters here, John hasn't had any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *relevant trade experience* since 1991. Funny how John >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really has a handle on all his trade stuff though, isn't it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I think that you'll find that he is a university professor, >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are always banging on about how qualifications prove >>>>>>>>>>>> nothing but obviously you don't really believe that.

    His hypocrisy really shines forth now!˙ ;-)

    Notice how I put something positive up and it gets crapped on >>>>>>>>>>> from a great height by he who hasn't a clue.

    Aww you're just pissed off that I found a better video.

    Doubt that. I have been watching Weber Auto videos for yonks. >>>>>>>>> The model used in the other video made for a better teaching >>>>>>>>> tool. The Weber State video is more suited to training for
    mechanics since they already know all the fundamentals of, say, >>>>>>>>> epicyclic gear trains.

    You don't have to be a mechanic to understand an epicyclic gear >>>>>>>> train, it's pretty obvious to any reasonably intelligent person. >>>>>>>> They are also used in plenty of places other than in cars.

    Yup, my first experience with one was in a Sturmey Archer rear
    geared hub on a bicycle, a 3 speed if I recall correctly. Pulling >>>>>>> that one apart and fixing it at age 12 or thereabouts.

    There you go, they are everywhere, most people with a mechanical
    bent would have encountered them and understood them. No need for >>>>>> training in the fundamentals.


    Pretty much why I only watched the start of the video, if and its a >>>>> very big if I ever need to work on such a trans I might bother to
    take a closer look.

    You won't ever work on such a unit. Need high voltage training and
    certification before you could even go near one - plus you need all
    the special gear.

    Anyone can work on one as long as it isn't for profit. Nobody is
    going to stop you working on your own vehicle. Whether that would be
    a wise move depends on your own knowledge and skill.

    Nope, if you want your warranty null and void, work on your own
    vehicle without qualifications and see what happens. And, given we are
    in the era of 5+ year warranties, that could be an expensive proposition. >>>
    Incidentally, since the unit has to have it's own cooling system, it
    would seem that there are some significant losses in there.

    FFS, it has an electric motor or two embedded in there! In the Toyota
    Hybrid Synergy Drive systems (such as in my Corolla and your RAV4),
    MG1 (Motor Generator 1) runs inside the transmission housing and is
    both lubricated and cooled by the automatic transmission fluid within
    that transaxle. The transaxle, which contains both MG1 and MG2, is a
    sealed unit where the electric motors are run in oil to dissipate heat
    generated during high-speed operation, such as when MG1 acts as a
    generator or engine starter. It uses automatic transmission fluid to
    lubricate the planetary gears and cool the motor windings.

    I know exactly how it works, it's not rocket science, and I strongly
    suspect that I've had a lot more experience with 3 phase electric motors than you. Maybe your Corolla is different, but the RAV 4 has a separate cooling system for the hybrid control unit, which would imply that there
    is a lot of heat being generated there, which, in turn, means that
    energy is going to waste.

    There is always energy going to waste. The ICE is the prime example
    though it is minimised in the Atkinson cycle ICE somewhat.

    HEVs and BEVs have 2 or more cooling systems. One for the batteries, one
    for the control systems, one for the ICE, one for transmissions and
    hybrid motors. Some are separate, some are combined. Always one for the passengers though that would typically be climate control - temperature management.

    You saw the video by John D Kelly, you saw where the motors were
    mounted, yet you didn't get that concept? Not as smart as you thought,
    eh?

    I don't know it it is possible for your unearned superiority complex to
    get more smug that this.


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 19:36:48
    On 29/1/2026 6:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 3:02 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 2:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:32 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 29/1/2026 10:19 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 10:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 8:33 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 28/01/2026 5:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 5:53 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    You don't have to be "In the trade" to understand his video, >>>>>>>>>>>> you just have to be reasonably intelligent and have some >>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge of things mechanical. I found the video when >>>>>>>>>>>> researching the RAV4, it was one of the reasons that I >>>>>>>>>>>> decided to buy one. The one that you posted seemed to be >>>>>>>>>>>> aimed at people with no mechanical knowledge at all, maybe >>>>>>>>>>>> that would be relevant to alvey, but everybody else here is >>>>>>>>>>>> beyond that point.

    Whereas you are right on the point I just made. Having an >>>>>>>>>>> entirely pissy snipe at someone for something they've never >>>>>>>>>>> claimed, while ignoring the lying fraud who *has* made a >>>>>>>>>>> mountain of false claims.

    Talk about whacko Richo!
    Next thing you'll be telling everyone how superior you are. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Please go away and stop bothering me.

    We live in hope!

    Can't stand the heat? The kitchen door is over there.

    I've survived the heat in the kitchen for a very long time. I >>>>>>>> see no reason why that should change any time soon. FWIW, I
    notice that the heat is more than a little *subdued* of late. >>>>>>>> Emasculation seems to do that for those *fake heaters*.

    Perhaps you have bored them to sleep, after all you haven't said >>>>>>> anything new in years.

    Nah, the faker's lies and delusions are still broadcast, they just >>>>>> lack the bluster and bravado of former times.

    Everybody is losing interest in the boring repetitive crap that you >>>>> post all the time.

    Darren has the power to make me leave - he needs only come up with
    irrefutable proof of his claims - and you would have to think that
    he would really want to do that, passionately so! But he doesn't?
    There can be but one reason for him to keep his proof to himself -
    it's *imaginary*, just like his business and trade quals.

    How long has that been the case? Do you ever expect that it will ever
    change?
    Of course it won't change, I don't expect it too. You see, I *know*
    his claims are all 100% rolled gold bullshit. His claims didn't even
    make sense in the telling. But I can still ask to see proof. That he
    doesn't proffer any tells anyone and everyone that he is full of shit.

    You have never "Asked" for anything, you've just demanded.

    Nope, I have always *asked*. No point demanding, I know he cannot
    deliver the goods.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:06:59
    On 29/01/2026 1:37 pm, Clocky wrote:

    LOL, beat me to it.

    *Everyone* beats you to it, ECU man. You're as slow as a wet week.


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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:09:35
    On 29/01/2026 10:27 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    Very useful information if you have that failure, but totally
    irrelevant here.

    LOL, can't be too many BW35's in daily use since they stopped being
    fitted to new cars more than 40yrs ago.

    Like him, they're completely irrelevant today. Stay tuned though, as
    he'll no doubt come up with reams of waffling shit to explain how
    someone who last worked on a car for a living when Malcolm Frazer was
    Prime Minister is relevant to today's automotive world :)



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:22:53
    On 29/01/2026 6:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 5:38 pm, Xeno wrote:

    <mental case chest beating flushed>

    <Yawn>

    What'd I tell ya? his posting a vid was all a carefully staged stunt
    designed to give him the opportunity to wank on about irrelevant shit.
    Like he's doing right now.

    Did he mention that one of his "qualifications" is as a specialist
    automatic transmission expert?

    Yeah, he apparently did a two week course on transmission basics, would
    be *just* about enough time for a clueless knob like him to be able to
    tell the difference between transmission fluid and sewing machine oil.

    Of course, the number of transmissions he's actually stripped and
    rebuilt is zero as one would expect :)




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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:29:48
    On 29/01/2026 2:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:32 am, Xeno wrote:

    Darren has the power to make me leave - he needs only come up with
    irrefutable proof of his claims - and you would have to think that he
    would really want to do that, passionately so! But he doesn't? There
    can be but one reason for him to keep his proof to himself - it's
    *imaginary*, just like his business and trade quals.

    How long has that been the case? Do you ever expect that it will ever change? Maybe, like me, he doesn't respond to demands.

    It's irrelevant. The "power to make him leave" existed during the train
    debate when his *own* evidence proved what I claimed was true and him
    and his mate Jerky to be unequivocally wrong.

    Rather that do the honourable thing and just leave in shame he denied eve3rything he ever said about it and instead focussed on *one*
    irrelevant point that made no difference to anything as being the *only*
    thing he was ever interested in.

    At least Jerky had the balls to admit defeat and apologise. This
    contemptible cunt of a thing showed the world that he has absolutely no
    self respect whatsoever and is prepared to make himself look like the
    most pathetic heap of shit imaginable rather than ever admit he was wrong.

    Needless to say, there is zero point in ever trying to prove a fucking
    thing to anyone like that :)


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:57:48
    On 29/1/2026 9:09 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 10:27 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    Very useful information if you have that failure, but totally
    irrelevant here.

    LOL, can't be too many BW35's in daily use since they stopped being
    fitted to new cars more than 40yrs ago.

    Like him, they're completely irrelevant today. Stay tuned though, as
    he'll no doubt come up with reams of waffling shit to explain how
    someone who last worked on a car for a living when Malcolm Frazer was
    Prime Minister is relevant to today's automotive world :)

    Well, *YOU* didn't know that the Ravineaux gearset is *still* with us
    and is as popular as ever, even on 6 and 7speed trans. Oh, and diffs.

    But then, I didn't expect you to know since you only had a trade and
    business in your delusions.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:59:37
    On 29/1/2026 9:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 6:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 5:38 pm, Xeno wrote:

    <mental case chest beating flushed>

    <Yawn>

    What'd I tell ya? his posting a vid was all a carefully staged stunt designed to give him the opportunity to wank on about irrelevant shit.
    Like he's doing right now.

    Did he mention that one of his "qualifications" is as a specialist
    automatic transmission expert?

    Yeah, he apparently did a two week course on transmission basics, would
    be *just* about enough time for a clueless knob like him to be able to
    tell the difference between transmission fluid and sewing machine oil.

    Of course, the number of transmissions he's actually stripped and
    rebuilt is zero as one would expect˙ :)

    Every apprentice build autos from 2nd year Darren. Of course you
    couldn't possibly know that since you never did any automotive
    apprenticeship ever.

    --
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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 22:00:41
    On 29/1/2026 9:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 2:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:32 am, Xeno wrote:

    Darren has the power to make me leave - he needs only come up with
    irrefutable proof of his claims - and you would have to think that he
    would really want to do that, passionately so! But he doesn't? There
    can be but one reason for him to keep his proof to himself - it's
    *imaginary*, just like his business and trade quals.

    How long has that been the case? Do you ever expect that it will ever
    change? Maybe, like me, he doesn't respond to demands.

    It's irrelevant. The "power to make him leave" existed during the train debate when his *own* evidence proved what I claimed was true and him
    and his mate Jerky to be unequivocally wrong.

    Rather that do the honourable thing and just leave in shame he denied eve3rything he ever said about it and instead focussed on *one*
    irrelevant point that made no difference to anything as being the *only* thing he was ever interested in.

    At least Jerky had the balls to admit defeat and apologise. This contemptible cunt of a thing showed the world that he has absolutely no
    self respect whatsoever and is prepared to make himself look like the
    most pathetic heap of shit imaginable rather than ever admit he was wrong.

    Needless to say, there is zero point in ever trying to prove a fucking
    thing to anyone like that :)

    Trade qualifications? You have none to prove? Business ownership? Ditto!


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:16:29
    Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 10:27 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:



    Like him, they're completely irrelevant today. Stay tuned though, as
    he'll no doubt come up with reams of waffling shit to explain how
    someone who last worked on a car for a living when Malcolm Frazer was
    Prime Minister is relevant to today's automotive world :)

    He can prove that he was actually paid to 'work' on cars Fraudster. You,
    otoh, can't.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:36:00
    Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 6:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 5:38 pm, Xeno wrote:

    <mental case chest beating flushed>

    <Yawn>

    What'd I tell ya? his posting a vid was all a carefully staged stunt designed to give him the opportunity to wank on about irrelevant shit.
    Like he's doing right now.

    Did he mention that one of his "qualifications" is as a specialist
    automatic transmission expert?

    Yeah, he apparently did a two week course on transmission basics, would
    be *just* about enough time for a clueless knob like him to be able to
    tell the difference between transmission fluid and sewing machine oil.

    Of course, the number of transmissions he's actually stripped and
    rebuilt is zero as one would expect˙ :)

    Hey Fraudster, where did you do more? At the non-existant Noddy's Auto?
    Or while you were simultaneously the 'Service Manager' (snigger) at a
    Honda dealer?




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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:47:08
    Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 2:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:32 am, Xeno wrote:

    Darren has the power to make me leave - he needs only come up with
    irrefutable proof of his claims - and you would have to think that he
    would really want to do that, passionately so! But he doesn't? There
    can be but one reason for him to keep his proof to himself - it's
    *imaginary*, just like his business and trade quals.

    How long has that been the case? Do you ever expect that it will ever
    change? Maybe, like me, he doesn't respond to demands.

    It's irrelevant. The "power to make him leave" existed during the train debate when his *own* evidence proved what I claimed was true and him
    and his mate Jerky to be unequivocally wrong.

    Rather that do the honourable thing and just leave in shame he denied eve3rything he ever said about it and instead focussed on *one*
    irrelevant point that made no difference to anything as being the *only* thing he was ever interested in.

    At least Jerky had the balls to admit defeat and apologise. This contemptible cunt of a thing showed the world that he has absolutely no
    self respect whatsoever and is prepared to make himself look like the
    most pathetic heap of shit imaginable rather than ever admit he was wrong.

    Needless to say, there is zero point in ever trying to prove a fucking
    thing to anyone like that :)

    Of course the far more credible reason for you not to 'try and prove
    anything' is because you can't.

    You're hopeless Fraudster.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:53:54
    Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 1:37 pm, Clocky wrote:

    LOL, beat me to it.

    *Everyone* beats you to it, ECU man. You're as slow as a wet week.

    Yeah yeah. You're just all talk Buffo.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 23:03:44
    On 29/1/2026 10:47 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 2:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 11:32 am, Xeno wrote:

    Darren has the power to make me leave - he needs only come up with
    irrefutable proof of his claims - and you would have to think that
    he would really want to do that, passionately so! But he doesn't?
    There can be but one reason for him to keep his proof to himself -
    it's *imaginary*, just like his business and trade quals.

    How long has that been the case? Do you ever expect that it will ever
    change? Maybe, like me, he doesn't respond to demands.

    It's irrelevant. The "power to make him leave" existed during the
    train debate when his *own* evidence proved what I claimed was true
    and him and his mate Jerky to be unequivocally wrong.

    Rather that do the honourable thing and just leave in shame he denied
    eve3rything he ever said about it and instead focussed on *one*
    irrelevant point that made no difference to anything as being the
    *only* thing he was ever interested in.

    At least Jerky had the balls to admit defeat and apologise. This
    contemptible cunt of a thing showed the world that he has absolutely
    no self respect whatsoever and is prepared to make himself look like
    the most pathetic heap of shit imaginable rather than ever admit he
    was wrong.

    Needless to say, there is zero point in ever trying to prove a fucking
    thing to anyone like that :)

    Of course the far more credible reason for you not to 'try and prove anything' is because you can't.

    Not only is it credible, it is *easily provable*. Just needs a visit to
    PROV and a search for Darren Gibbens. Guess what? There are zero
    instances of *any records* in that name in the archives. Darren can even
    nip on down and check PROV out for himself, it's just down the road in
    Nth Melbourne, easy access, street parking is a bit of a bitch on Shiell Street, 2 hour limit, but there is free parking in PROV, access via
    Macaulay Rd. Daryl should rock on down since Darren refuses to show even
    him any proof. To be expected, no proof to be had! LOL

    You're hopeless Fraudster.



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    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 23:08:06
    On 29/1/2026 10:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 10:27 am, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/1/2026 8:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:



    Like him, they're completely irrelevant today. Stay tuned though, as
    he'll no doubt come up with reams of waffling shit to explain how
    someone who last worked on a car for a living when Malcolm Frazer was
    Prime Minister is relevant to today's automotive world :)

    He can prove that he was actually paid to 'work' on cars Fraudster.

    Yup, got a heap of references to prove I worked on cars, trucks, buses, tractors, earthmovers, all sorts of mobile equipment.

    You, otoh, can't.

    All he claims these days is *experience*. But what experience is that?
    Working in his shed at home does not make him *relevant* to the motor
    industry *in any way*. But the lack of proof does make him a liar.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 21:57:30
    On 29/01/2026 6:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 6:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 5:38 pm, Xeno wrote:

    <mental case chest beating flushed>

    <Yawn>

    What'd I tell ya? his posting a vid was all a carefully staged stunt designed to give him the opportunity to wank on about irrelevant shit.
    Like he's doing right now.

    Did he mention that one of his "qualifications" is as a specialist
    automatic transmission expert?

    Yeah, he apparently did a two week course on transmission basics, would
    be *just* about enough time for a clueless knob like him to be able to
    tell the difference between transmission fluid and sewing machine oil.

    Of course, the number of transmissions he's actually stripped and
    rebuilt is zero as one would expect˙ :)



    You've obviously never completed an automotive mechanical apprenticeship
    you pleb.


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    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 22:01:46
    On 29/01/2026 6:06 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 1:37 pm, Clocky wrote:

    LOL, beat me to it.

    *Everyone* beats you to it, ECU man. You're as slow as a wet week.




    ...says the unqualified gronk 7+ hours later...




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    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 30, 2026 08:52:51
    On 30/1/2026 12:57 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 6:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 6:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/01/2026 5:38 pm, Xeno wrote:

    <mental case chest beating flushed>

    <Yawn>

    What'd I tell ya? his posting a vid was all a carefully staged stunt
    designed to give him the opportunity to wank on about irrelevant shit.
    Like he's doing right now.

    Did he mention that one of his "qualifications" is as a specialist
    automatic transmission expert?

    Yeah, he apparently did a two week course on transmission basics,

    Nah, that was the length of the update course at the Wodonga BW/BTR
    factory. Just refresher courses on new models of trans. Of course
    Darren, never having done even a basic apprenticeship, wouldn't have a
    clue about any of this.

    The specialist trans course was actually about a year long. Later that
    was rolled into the driveline apprenticeship as one of the modules. This
    one;

    Certificate IV in Automotive Mechanical Diagnosis (AUR40216): Advanced diagnostics for transmission faults.

    Note, it is Cert IV, that signifies advanced or specialist and, as you
    can see, it is.


    would be *just* about enough time for a clueless knob like him to be
    able to tell the difference between transmission fluid and sewing
    machine oil.

    Of course, the number of transmissions he's actually stripped and
    rebuilt is zero as one would expect˙ :)

    Since I completed an apprenticeship, I can safely say I have had
    experience stripping and rebuilding quite a few trans in my time. FFS,
    every apprentice will strip down and rebuild a couple in 2nd year and a
    couple in 3rd year.


    You've obviously never completed an automotive mechanical apprenticeship
    you pleb.

    He makes it obvious, doesn't he?

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    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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