• Re: Electric M series?

    From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 14:14:58
    On 15/01/2026 12:37 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 9:53 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 9:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is-
    coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)

    Ah, so then it'll be full of *bugs* and the owners can be the beta
    testers. Right!

    You just see what you want to see, obviously that didn't include the
    smiley.


    You're totally devoid of wit and never say anything funny keith.


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 07:29:45
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:52 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 1:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/


    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    IIRC, he started out in life doing an electronic tech apprenticeship,
    then moved into programming. Of course he claimed *his* apprenticeship
    was at a high level, much higher than that of a *lowly mechanic*, such
    is the ego of the man.

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3,

    Automotive mechanical apprenticeship was 4 years.

    In Keith?s era, a ?standard? apprenticeship was 5 years. I know because my apprenticeship was of the same duration, 5 years, one of the last before
    they cut them down to 4. Still 4, not 3 but they can be abbreviated with ?special dispensation? from the ITC. (See what I did there?)

    and included subjects that would have
    fried your brain. Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to
    get degrees, and at least 2 became PhDs,

    I lost track of all the apprentices of my year because I was in a small
    town and the only apprentice there. I did block release at a distant Tech, Burnie Tech, and knew no one there from my local work environment or
    district.

    But you said they don't count for shit... because a mushbrain like you couldn't attain them presumably.

    Note how he tries to big note himself, making his apprenticeship seem more
    than it really was.

    You can't have it both ways.

    He tries to.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 17:34:34
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:52 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 1:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/


    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    IIRC, he started out in life doing an electronic tech apprenticeship,
    then moved into programming. Of course he claimed *his* apprenticeship
    was at a high level, much higher than that of a *lowly mechanic*, such
    is the ego of the man.

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would have
    fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to
    get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 17:48:19
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, like
    you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice as
    much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual - before
    getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain has obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees in the subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who people come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    I guess 'anyone else'.

    Ol' Richo is a very modest person, with a prominent self-defecating streak.



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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 17:59:25
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain has
    obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees in the
    subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who people come >>> to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very good,
    others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were totally unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others were as good
    as one man short.

    Sooo, if this job was so "brain-frying" how could "totally unqualified"
    people do it?

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone with
    no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper at the end.

    What a coincidence! *All* the remaining DATEs chant this mantra
    regularly. Can't imagine why...



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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 18:04:38
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/


    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice as
    much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual -
    before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure likes
    to boast.

    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as much
    as the others, then you are lying as usual

    You're on thin ice flinging these accusations of lying around Richo.


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 18:08:37
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what
    I do."

    Annnd through the ice goes Richo.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 18:10:59
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, like
    you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 18:17:14
    On 15/01/2026 4:14 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:37 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 9:53 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 9:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)

    Ah, so then it'll be full of *bugs* and the owners can be the beta
    testers. Right!

    You just see what you want to see, obviously that didn't include the
    smiley.


    You're totally devoid of wit and never say anything funny keith.

    More misery from the West Australian liar.

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 18:20:17
    On 15/01/2026 4:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:52 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 1:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    IIRC, he started out in life doing an electronic tech apprenticeship,
    then moved into programming. Of course he claimed *his*
    apprenticeship was at a high level, much higher than that of a *lowly
    mechanic*, such is the ego of the man.

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3,

    Automotive mechanical apprenticeship was 4 years.

    ˙and included subjects that would have
    fried your brain. Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on
    to get degrees, and at least 2 became PhDs,

    But you said they don't count for shit... because a mushbrain like you couldn't attain them presumably.

    They don't matter to me, but their attaining them indicated that they
    had an intellect rather above the average mechanic apprentice.

    You can't have it both ways.

    I'll have it as many ways as I like, and have done.


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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 18:21:36
    On 15/01/2026 5:29 pm, Xeno wrote:
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:52 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 1:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/


    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was >>>>> the actual claim?

    IIRC, he started out in life doing an electronic tech apprenticeship,
    then moved into programming. Of course he claimed *his* apprenticeship >>>> was at a high level, much higher than that of a *lowly mechanic*, such >>>> is the ego of the man.

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3,

    Automotive mechanical apprenticeship was 4 years.

    In Keith?s era, a ?standard? apprenticeship was 5 years. I know because my apprenticeship was of the same duration, 5 years, one of the last before
    they cut them down to 4. Still 4, not 3 but they can be abbreviated with ?special dispensation? from the ITC. (See what I did there?)

    and included subjects that would have
    fried your brain. Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to
    get degrees, and at least 2 became PhDs,

    I lost track of all the apprentices of my year because I was in a small
    town and the only apprentice there. I did block release at a distant Tech, Burnie Tech, and knew no one there from my local work environment or district.

    But you said they don't count for shit... because a mushbrain like you
    couldn't attain them presumably.

    Note how he tries to big note himself, making his apprenticeship seem more than it really was.

    More than it was, how big do you think it was then?

    You can't have it both ways.

    He tries to.



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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 20:05:01
    On 15/1/2026 7:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 5:29 pm, Xeno wrote:
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:52 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 1:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>> car-is-
    coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/


    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was >>>>>> the actual claim?

    IIRC, he started out in life doing an electronic tech apprenticeship, >>>>> then moved into programming. Of course he claimed *his* apprenticeship >>>>> was at a high level, much higher than that of a *lowly mechanic*, such >>>>> is the ego of the man.

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3,

    Automotive mechanical apprenticeship was 4 years.

    In Keith?s era, a ?standard? apprenticeship was 5 years. I know
    because my
    apprenticeship was of the same duration, 5 years, one of the last before
    they cut them down to 4. Still 4, not 3 but they can be abbreviated with
    ?special dispensation? from the ITC. (See what I did there?)

    ˙ and included subjects that would have
    fried your brain. Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to >>>> get degrees, and at least 2 became PhDs,

    I lost track of all the apprentices of my year because I was in a small
    town and the only apprentice there. I did block release at a distant
    Tech,
    Burnie Tech, and knew no one there from my local work environment or
    district.

    But you said they don't count for shit... because a mushbrain like you
    couldn't attain them presumably.

    Note how he tries to big note himself, making his apprenticeship seem
    more
    than it really was.

    More than it was, how big do you think it was then?

    No different to my apprenticeship. 5 years? Same as mine.

    The next step up from a motor mechanic apprenticeship was the Automotive Technician's Certificate (Vic). A great many of my colleagues in
    Victoria had that as it was a requirement to teach in TAFE Automotive.
    It was the first stepping stone to a Mech Engineering Degree. After the Certificate came the Diploma of Mech. Eng. Then the degree. I knew quite
    a few who went on to attain the Diploma, a few who attained the degree.
    The Diploma was useful if you wanted to remain "hands-on". A Masters or
    a PhD in Mech Eng was only useful if one intended to go on to research.

    --
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    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Daryl@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 20:55:55
    On 15/1/2026 3:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain has
    obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees in the
    subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who people come >>> to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very good,
    others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were totally unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others were as good
    as one man short.

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone with
    no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper at the end.

    Especially true in IT, when my son worked in London for an IT startup
    (It was called Hailo, they invented the software to run taxi bookings
    similar to Uber who actually copied/stole the software ) they sometimes
    went looking for IT talent in gaming platforms and offered jobs to a
    few, they had to pass a test and those that did were offered jobs, some
    had no qualifications apart from basic secondary school, they were late
    teens or early 20's, some turned out to be very good at their jobs.


    --
    Daryl

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 21:27:24
    On 15/1/2026 6:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain has
    obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a small >>>> group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees in the >>>> subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who people
    come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very good,
    others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were totally
    unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others were as good
    as one man short.

    Sooo, if this job was so "brain-frying" how could "totally unqualified" people do it?

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone
    with no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper at
    the end.

    What a coincidence! *All* the remaining DATEs chant this mantra
    regularly. Can't imagine why...

    The DATEs seem not to understand that an *apprenticeship* is ~15%
    classroom and 85% hands on in the workplace. Of that 15% of classroom,
    quite a deal of it was hands on as well since there were theory and prac classes back in my era as an apprentice. Without the underpinning
    structured theory, the learning from prac can become quite fragmented.

    A case in point. Darren made a point some time back that the tangs on
    bearing shells is what prevents rotation of the shell in service. That
    is a *logical assumption* if one had never had any form of training in
    engine building. It even *looks* logical. But it's wrong! It becomes
    obvious that it's wrong when you realise that cam bearing shells have an interference fit and, in these bearings, that prevents rotation of
    shells in service. Bearing crush is, in effect, an interference fit
    applied to *half shell bearings*.

    I stated that the tangs were an assembly guide only. They simply
    provided initial *assembly location* of the bearing shell. In some
    cases, particularly with main bearings, the tangs are *different sized*
    and this prevents sheels being incorrectly placed. On mains, some
    engines have an oil groove in the upper shell only, the lower shell
    being retained as full bearing surface area. In this case, different
    sized tangs would prevent grooved upper shells being used in the lower
    (cap) more heavily loaded bearing position.

    https://www.enginebuildermag.com/2017/03/engine-bearing-technology-spin-spun-bearings/

    The actual amount of crush fit that is built into a bearing
    by a bearing manufacturer is based on their engineering
    analysis of the application and the OEM main bore, connecting
    rod and cam bearing specifications. The bearing shells are
    then made so they protrude slightly above the parting line.
    When the main cap, rod cap or cam bearing cap is tightened
    down, the bearing crushes slightly to hold it securely in
    place. The little locating tangs or lugs on the bearing
    shell are there for alignment purposes only and do not play a
    role in holding the bearing in its housing.

    https://www.engineaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/SB048.pdf

    When slipper engine bearings are fitted to the conrod or
    cylinder block main tunnels, the bearings protrude slightly
    above the parting plane of the housing on both sides. This
    protrusion is called bearing crush height. When the bearing
    cap is installed and tensioned down, the two protruding ends
    of the bearings push against each other, creating a force
    pushing the bearings into contact with the tunnel of the
    bearing housing. The bearing shells have a slightly larger
    radius than that of the tunnel they are fitted to, which
    gives them some spring when installing. This is present to
    hold the bearing in the housing during assembly. The tangs
    are present to locate the bearings correctly sideways.
    Neither spread nor tangs give the force necessary to hold
    the bearing hard against the housing surface or to stop the
    bearings from spinning in the housing - this is achieved by
    the crush.

    https://www.enginebuildermag.com/2008/05/csi-engine-bearings-when-good-bearings-go-bad/

    The term ?crush? refers to the outward force created by the
    portion of the bearing, which extends above the housing bore
    when the bearing halves are set into place. This ?extra?
    material holds the outside diameter of the bearings firmly
    against the housing bore when the assembly is torqued to
    specification. By increasing the surface contact between the
    bearing and connecting rod housing bore, crush minimizes
    bearing movement, helps to compensate for bore distortion
    and aids in heat transfer.
    In simple terms, bearing crush is what holds the bearing in
    place. Think of it as putting 10 pounds of something into a 5
    pound bag. The tang or locator tab on the shell that fits the
    saddle is only for locating the bearing during assembly.

    https://enginepro.com/bearing-crush-and-vertical-clearance/

    The locating lug on a half shell bearing registers with a
    mating slot in the housing to locate the bearing shell. The
    lug is not intended to prevent bearing rotation. Crush holds
    the bearings in place and prevents spinning just as press
    fit holds bushings in place which have no locating lugs.
    Lugs can be positioned differently on upper and lower halves
    or varied in width to prevent misassembly. A number of
    late-model engines have even eliminated the location lug
    completely. Regardless of lug or no lug, proper positioning
    of a crankshaft bearing is essential to ensure oil hole
    alignment with the housing and to prevent interference
    between the edge of the bearing and the crankshaft fillet
    radius.

    Any number of *reputable* websites all say the same thing, crush holds
    the bearings in place and prevents the shells from rotation. The tang is
    an assembly locator only. If the crush on a bearing is too minimal, the
    shells will fret in the housing further reducing bearing crush. The
    fretting will chafe at the tangs and will rapidly eat them away, as in
    the case of the leading tang, or flatten them out in the case of the
    trailing tangs. Seen examples of both issues in service.

    The above is what apprentice motor mechanics learn in *second year* when
    they are required to dismantle an engine, measure and assess all
    components, determine suitability for service and reassemble the engine.
    I taught engine rebuilding at TAFE for 15 years at Richmond. I always
    ensured that students fully understood the underpinning theory of
    bearing crush. Darren claims he *completed* all three years of TAFE in
    his *claimed* AME apprenticeship. Pity it was really 4 years and he
    didn't know that. Anyway, he also claims he worked at a place that
    serviced *Cessna* aircraft. Interesting, they used Lycoming engines in
    some models at least.

    https://airparts.aero/shop/18e23886-lycoming-crankshaft-main-bearing-io-540-airparts-23519

    In the text the statement is clearly made that the crush "mechanically
    *locks* the shell in place, preventing it from spinning under rotational loads" and this is in Lycoming factory documentation. So aircraft
    engines aren't all that dissimilar to automotive engines. Ergo, had
    Darren ever trained at RMIT he would have learnt this in at least his
    second year. But no, he still made the *untrained assumption* common to
    all who think *experience* can teach you all you need to know. Darren is
    proof of the folly of that idea. It also becomes much more apparent that
    he has never sat his arse in any aviation or automotive apprentice class
    ever.

    Keith appears to be traveling down that same lonely road.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 21:37:06
    On 15/01/2026 9:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an independent
    motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is-
    coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)

    Don't know if you're trying to be funny or not :)


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 09:48:03
    On 15/1/2026 9:37 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 9:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is-
    coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)

    Don't know if you're trying to be funny or not :)

    Well Darren, he's obviously *not talking about you* since he is
    referring to *programmers* and *mechanics*. You are neither! Apart from anything else, your thinking isn't suitably logical to be competent at
    either role.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 07:25:37
    On 15/01/2026 4:08 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what
    I do."

    Annnd through the ice goes Richo.



    Looks like keith has run away again... proving he's all spit but no balls.



    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 10:34:38
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:08 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice >>>>> as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per
    usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he
    sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what >>> I do."

    Annnd through the ice goes Richo.



    Looks like keith has run away again...

    One can only hope that it's permanent. It's quite possible Ashley as he invariably loses his way in here.

    Btw... completely OT, but I only found out a couple of days ago, the
    online residential White Pages was deleted last November. Another
    instance of just how much better the privatisation of utilities is than
    being run by the guvmint. Bah!

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 01:03:39
    alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:08 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice >>>>>> as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per
    usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he >>>>>> sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what >>>> I do."

    Annnd through the ice goes Richo.



    Looks like keith has run away again...

    One can only hope that it's permanent. It's quite possible Ashley as he invariably loses his way in here.

    Btw... completely OT, but I only found out a couple of days ago, the
    online residential White Pages was deleted last November. Another
    instance of just how much better the privatisation of utilities is than being run by the guvmint. Bah!


    Yeah, discovered the same thing a few weeks back. Pita for sure!

    ____
    Xeno



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 12:20:07
    On 16/01/2026 10:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:08 pm, alvey wrote:

    Looks like keith has run away again...

    Like everyone else here, he's probably sick to death of your repetitive infantile bullshit.

    proving he's all spit but no balls.

    ROTFL :)

    From the clogwog who cries like a little girl whenever the focus turns
    to him.

    *Jesus* you're a pathetic cunt of a thing :)


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 09:25:01
    On 16/01/2026 8:34 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:08 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified
    as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as
    per usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever >>>>>> he sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at
    what
    I do."

    Annnd through the ice goes Richo.



    Looks like keith has run away again...

    One can only hope that it's permanent. It's quite possible Ashley as he invariably loses his way in here.

    Btw... completely OT, but I only found out a couple of days ago, the
    online residential White Pages was deleted last November. Another
    instance of just how much better the privatisation of utilities is than being run by the guvmint. Bah!

    Not happy Jan!



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 12:08:22
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:08 pm, alvey wrote:

    Looks like keith has run away again...

    Like everyone else here, he's probably sick to death of your repetitive infantile bullshit.

    proving he's all spit but no balls.

    ROTFL :)

    From the clogwog who cries like a little girl whenever the focus turns
    to him.

    *Jesus* you're a pathetic cunt of a thing :)

    Nahhh. A "pathetic cunt of a thing" would be a hypocrite who screeched
    for others to prove their claims but then refused to reciprocate when
    the focus turned to him, and then bolted into Castle Killfile. *That's*
    wayyy more pathetic Fraudster.

    You're a joke Fraudster.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 10:09:58
    On 16/01/2026 9:20 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:08 pm, alvey wrote:

    Looks like keith has run away again...

    Like everyone

    Nope.




    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 13:32:21
    On 16/1/2026 1:08 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:08 pm, alvey wrote:

    Looks like keith has run away again...

    Like everyone else here, he's probably sick to death of your
    repetitive infantile bullshit.

    proving he's all spit but no balls.

    ROTFL :)

    ˙From the clogwog who cries like a little girl whenever the focus
    turns to him.

    *Jesus* you're a pathetic cunt of a thing :)

    Nahhh. A "pathetic cunt of a thing" would be a hypocrite who screeched
    for others to prove their claims but then refused to reciprocate when
    the focus turned to him, and then bolted into Castle Killfile. *That's* wayyy more pathetic Fraudster.

    You're a joke Fraudster.

    Funny yechhh rather than funny ha ha.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 14:24:40
    On 15/1/2026 8:55 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 3:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain has
    obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a small >>>> group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees in the >>>> subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who people
    come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very good,
    others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were totally
    unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others were as good
    as one man short.

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone
    with no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper at
    the end.

    Especially true in IT, when my son worked in London for an IT startup
    (It was called Hailo, they invented the software to run taxi bookings similar to Uber who actually copied/stole the software ) they sometimes
    went looking for IT talent in gaming platforms and offered jobs to a
    few, they had to pass a test and those that did were offered jobs, some
    had no qualifications apart from basic secondary school, they were late teens or early 20's, some turned out to be very good at their jobs.


    Kids who are good at gaming are likely to have skillsets transferable to programming. Transferable experience, who would have thought? These
    skillsets include logic, problem-solving, pattern recognition,
    persistence and the breaking down of large complex tasks.
    Unsurprisingly, some of those well honed skillsets are found in young
    people with ASD. ASD people autistic youth often excel at gaming and
    spend a lot of time playing due to shared traits like intense focus and pattern recognition, finding gaming a structured, socially comfortable
    space to build skills where their experience with overcoming game
    challenges and enjoying deep focus can make the learning curve smoother, especially for game development or logic-based coding.
    Should anyone bother to check, the most successful of those
    transitioning to programming from gaming are likely to be undiagnosed ASDs.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 14:51:39
    On 16/01/2026 1:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 8:55 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 3:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice >>>>> as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per
    usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he
    sure likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain has >>>>> obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a small >>>>> group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees in the >>>>> subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who people >>>>> come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very good,
    others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were totally
    unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others were as
    good as one man short.

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone
    with no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper at
    the end.

    Especially true in IT, when my son worked in London for an IT startup
    (It was called Hailo, they invented the software to run taxi bookings
    similar to Uber who actually copied/stole the software ) they
    sometimes went looking for IT talent in gaming platforms and offered
    jobs to a few, they had to pass a test and those that did were offered
    jobs, some had no qualifications apart from basic secondary school,
    they were late teens or early 20's, some turned out to be very good at
    their jobs.


    Kids who are good at gaming are likely to have skillsets transferable to programming. Transferable experience, who would have thought? These skillsets include logic, problem-solving, pattern recognition,
    persistence and the breaking down of large complex tasks.
    Unsurprisingly, some of those well honed skillsets are found in young
    people with ASD. ASD people autistic youth often excel at gaming and
    spend a lot of time playing due to shared traits like intense focus and pattern recognition, finding gaming a structured, socially comfortable
    space to build skills where their experience with overcoming game
    challenges and enjoying deep focus can make the learning curve smoother, especially for game development or logic-based coding.
    Should anyone bother to check, the most successful of those
    transitioning to programming from gaming are likely to be undiagnosed ASDs.

    ASDs are unlikely to be successful programmers in the commercial world,
    One of the characteristics of an ASD is a lack of communications skills.
    Large commercial pieces of software are written by teams not some lone brilliant person and interpersonal communications are very important.
    Working in such a team is very different to doing it all by yourself, as
    I found out when I started programming professionally.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 14:58:55
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice as
    much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm good at
    what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain has
    obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees in the
    subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who people come >>> to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    Completely true for once.



    You assert that the claim is true, but, if it is unproven, you are lying.






    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 14:59:23
    On 15/01/2026 6:08 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what
    I do."

    Annnd through the ice goes Richo.

    You wish.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 15:00:24
    On 16/01/2026 9:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:08 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>> car-is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice >>>>> as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per
    usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he
    sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what >>> I do."

    Annnd through the ice goes Richo.



    Looks like keith has run away again... proving he's all spit but no balls.

    Lying again klox, it really comes easy to you doesn't it?

    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 15:03:07
    On 15/01/2026 6:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.

    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    You're on thin ice flinging these accusations of lying around Richo.

    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 15:05:16
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that was
    relevant to the task.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 15:09:05
    On 15/01/2026 4:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 11:23 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, like
    you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Yada tada yada same shit different day.


    Fact. Endless firmware and software updates prove how useless
    programmers are. Not surprising when they have mushbrains like you doing
    the programming.

    On 3/01/2026 9:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

    After a mechanic damaged the transmission on our old Subaru XV
    (there still current litigation over that),

    Can you expand on how a mechanic allegedly damaged your transmission?

    Drained the front-diff and didn't refill it. There's some evidence that
    the oil was added to the CVT instead. Either way the fix was to replace
    the the combined front-diff and CVT module.

    Great work by a licenced WA mechanic.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 16:50:47
    On 16/1/2026 3:51 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 8:55 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 3:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified
    as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as
    per usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever >>>>>> he sure likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain
    has obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a
    small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees in >>>>>> the
    subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who
    people come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very
    good, others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were
    totally unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others
    were as good as one man short.

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone
    with no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper at
    the end.

    Especially true in IT, when my son worked in London for an IT startup
    (It was called Hailo, they invented the software to run taxi bookings
    similar to Uber who actually copied/stole the software ) they
    sometimes went looking for IT talent in gaming platforms and offered
    jobs to a few, they had to pass a test and those that did were
    offered jobs, some had no qualifications apart from basic secondary
    school, they were late teens or early 20's, some turned out to be
    very good at their jobs.


    Kids who are good at gaming are likely to have skillsets transferable
    to programming. Transferable experience, who would have thought? These
    skillsets include logic, problem-solving, pattern recognition,
    persistence and the breaking down of large complex tasks.
    Unsurprisingly, some of those well honed skillsets are found in young
    people with ASD. ASD people autistic youth often excel at gaming and
    spend a lot of time playing due to shared traits like intense focus
    and pattern recognition, finding gaming a structured, socially
    comfortable space to build skills where their experience with
    overcoming game challenges and enjoying deep focus can make the
    learning curve smoother, especially for game development or logic-
    based coding.
    Should anyone bother to check, the most successful of those
    transitioning to programming from gaming are likely to be undiagnosed
    ASDs.

    ASDs are unlikely to be successful programmers in the commercial world,
    One of the characteristics of an ASD is a lack of communications skills. Large commercial pieces of software are written by teams not some lone brilliant person and interpersonal communications are very important. Working in such a team is very different to doing it all by yourself, as
    I found out when I started programming professionally.

    Omigod you talk some shit. Some *facts* for you.


    Baron-Cohen further reports an elevated prevalence of autistic
    individuals in STEM-related careers (Baron-Cohen, 2000). Finally, one
    study investigates the prevalence of individuals with ASD in computer
    science majors (White et al., 2011). The authors find that there is a
    relation between computer science majors and higher scores on the autism spectrum quotient measurement instrument AQ (Baron-Cohen et al., 2006).
    They found that over 50 percent of the university students who scored
    high on the AQ were pursuing computer science.

    You probably worked with many who were on the spectrum but you wouldn't
    have known.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 17:03:05
    On 16-Jan-26 1:09 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:20 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:25 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:08 pm, alvey wrote:

    Looks like keith has run away again...

    Like everyone

    Nope.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    *YOU* sure as fuck do!. I see you are post snipping again, what the fuck
    do you expect to gain from that??.

    you stupids are regressing at a rate of knots.. :):):)






    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 16:18:36
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would have
    fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 18:24:04
    On 16/01/2026 5:03 pm, jonz wrote:

    Looks like keith has run away again...

    Like everyone

    Nope.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    *YOU* sure as fuck do!. I see you are post snipping again, what the fuck
    do you expect to gain from that??.

    Like all 12 year olds, showing everyone that he can't handle reality.

    you stupids are regressing at a rate of knots.. :):):)

    It's always been there. Now they just don't care who knows it.



    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 15:50:06
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice as
    much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm good at
    what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you mean. I
    was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of difference to
    what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still get paid more than
    twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average wage
    and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than double.
    Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse handed
    to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time enabling a
    compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.





    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 15:58:40
    On 16/01/2026 1:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 11:23 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/


    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Yada tada yada same shit different day.


    Fact. Endless firmware and software updates prove how useless
    programmers are. Not surprising when they have mushbrains like you
    doing the programming.

    On 3/01/2026 9:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:



    <snip irrelevant>

    Just one example of endless cases of "Software engineer" and
    "programmer" gross incompetence;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WiQAOmESH0

    No wonder when even illogical mushbrains like you get a title of
    "programmer" or "software engineer" assuming you weren't lying about
    that too.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 16:00:21
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/


    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example when asked.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 16:01:48
    On 16/01/2026 1:03 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.

    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    You're on thin ice flinging these accusations of lying around Richo.

    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.


    He says after just having had his arse handed to him again.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 16:04:23
    On 16/01/2026 2:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would have
    fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.


    He's only got one shovel.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 18:14:09
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:08 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- is- >>>>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice >>>>> as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per
    usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he
    sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what >>> I do."

    Annnd through the ice goes Richo.

    You wish.

    I want to mail you a statuette I've made. What's the postcode for Denial?


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 18:23:47
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.

    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    You're on thin ice flinging these accusations of lying around Richo.

    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is invariably
    based solely on your opinion.


    hth

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 18:28:38
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.


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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 19:54:01
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that was
    relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 19:54:28
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:03:54
    On 16/01/2026 5:58 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 11:23 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Yada tada yada same shit different day.


    Fact. Endless firmware and software updates prove how useless
    programmers are. Not surprising when they have mushbrains like you
    doing the programming.

    On 3/01/2026 9:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:



    <snip stuff that I have no answer for>

    A great impression of Usain Bolt.

    Just one example of endless cases of "Software engineer" and
    "programmer" gross incompetence;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WiQAOmESH0

    So a niche car manufacturer hired a (probably cheap) bunch of
    incompetent programmers - what's your point. Obviously from the bit that
    you snipped, Sylvia hired an incompetent licenced mechanic who couldn't
    even work out which hole to pour the oil into. There are incompetents everywhere and in every trade.

    No wonder when even illogical mushbrains like you get a title of "programmer" or "software engineer" assuming you weren't lying about
    that too.

    You're the liar boy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:04:52
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice >>>>> as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per
    usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he
    sure likes to boast.

    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    You're on thin ice flinging these accusations of lying around Richo.

    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:07:24
    On 16/01/2026 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice >>>>> as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per
    usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he
    sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what >>> I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm good at
    what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you mean. I
    was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of difference to what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still get paid more than
    twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average wage
    and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than double.
    Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse handed
    to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time enabling a
    compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.

    I'm not sure what reality you're living in but it sure ain't the one
    that the rest of us are.

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:09:31
    On 16/01/2026 3:50 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 3:51 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 8:55 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 3:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified
    fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified >>>>>>> as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as >>>>>>> per usual - before getting smacked down. For such an
    underachiever he sure likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain >>>>>>> has obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a >>>>>>> small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees >>>>>>> in the
    subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who
    people come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very
    good, others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were
    totally unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others
    were as good as one man short.

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone
    with no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper at >>>>> the end.

    Especially true in IT, when my son worked in London for an IT
    startup (It was called Hailo, they invented the software to run taxi
    bookings similar to Uber who actually copied/stole the software )
    they sometimes went looking for IT talent in gaming platforms and
    offered jobs to a few, they had to pass a test and those that did
    were offered jobs, some had no qualifications apart from basic
    secondary school, they were late teens or early 20's, some turned
    out to be very good at their jobs.


    Kids who are good at gaming are likely to have skillsets transferable
    to programming. Transferable experience, who would have thought?
    These skillsets include logic, problem-solving, pattern recognition,
    persistence and the breaking down of large complex tasks.
    Unsurprisingly, some of those well honed skillsets are found in young
    people with ASD. ASD people autistic youth often excel at gaming and
    spend a lot of time playing due to shared traits like intense focus
    and pattern recognition, finding gaming a structured, socially
    comfortable space to build skills where their experience with
    overcoming game challenges and enjoying deep focus can make the
    learning curve smoother, especially for game development or logic-
    based coding.
    Should anyone bother to check, the most successful of those
    transitioning to programming from gaming are likely to be undiagnosed
    ASDs.

    ASDs are unlikely to be successful programmers in the commercial
    world, One of the characteristics of an ASD is a lack of
    communications skills. Large commercial pieces of software are written
    by teams not some lone brilliant person and interpersonal
    communications are very important. Working in such a team is very
    different to doing it all by yourself, as I found out when I started
    programming professionally.

    Omigod you talk some shit. Some *facts* for you.


    Baron-Cohen further reports an elevated prevalence of autistic
    individuals in STEM-related careers (Baron-Cohen, 2000). Finally, one
    study investigates the prevalence of individuals with ASD in computer science majors (White et al., 2011). The authors find that there is a relation between computer science majors and higher scores on the autism spectrum quotient measurement instrument AQ (Baron-Cohen et al., 2006).
    They found that over 50 percent of the university students who scored
    high on the AQ were pursuing computer science.

    You probably worked with many who were on the spectrum but you wouldn't
    have known.

    None of the people that I worked with were anywhere near the spectrum,
    if for no other reason that HR would have weeded them out.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 21:22:30
    On 16/1/2026 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 3:50 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 3:51 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 8:55 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 3:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid >>>>>>>> twice as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified >>>>>>>> as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as >>>>>>>> per usual - before getting smacked down. For such an
    underachiever he sure likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain >>>>>>>> has obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a >>>>>>>> small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees >>>>>>>> in the
    subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who
    people come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very
    good, others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were >>>>>> totally unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others >>>>>> were as good as one man short.

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone >>>>>> with no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper
    at the end.

    Especially true in IT, when my son worked in London for an IT
    startup (It was called Hailo, they invented the software to run
    taxi bookings similar to Uber who actually copied/stole the
    software ) they sometimes went looking for IT talent in gaming
    platforms and offered jobs to a few, they had to pass a test and
    those that did were offered jobs, some had no qualifications apart
    from basic secondary school, they were late teens or early 20's,
    some turned out to be very good at their jobs.


    Kids who are good at gaming are likely to have skillsets
    transferable to programming. Transferable experience, who would have
    thought? These skillsets include logic, problem-solving, pattern
    recognition, persistence and the breaking down of large complex
    tasks. Unsurprisingly, some of those well honed skillsets are found
    in young people with ASD. ASD people autistic youth often excel at
    gaming and spend a lot of time playing due to shared traits like
    intense focus and pattern recognition, finding gaming a structured,
    socially comfortable space to build skills where their experience
    with overcoming game challenges and enjoying deep focus can make the
    learning curve smoother, especially for game development or logic-
    based coding.
    Should anyone bother to check, the most successful of those
    transitioning to programming from gaming are likely to be
    undiagnosed ASDs.

    ASDs are unlikely to be successful programmers in the commercial
    world, One of the characteristics of an ASD is a lack of
    communications skills. Large commercial pieces of software are
    written by teams not some lone brilliant person and interpersonal
    communications are very important. Working in such a team is very
    different to doing it all by yourself, as I found out when I started
    programming professionally.

    Omigod you talk some shit. Some *facts* for you.


    Baron-Cohen further reports an elevated prevalence of autistic
    individuals in STEM-related careers (Baron-Cohen, 2000). Finally, one
    study investigates the prevalence of individuals with ASD in computer
    science majors (White et al., 2011). The authors find that there is a
    relation between computer science majors and higher scores on the
    autism spectrum quotient measurement instrument AQ (Baron-Cohen et
    al., 2006). They found that over 50 percent of the university students
    who scored high on the AQ were pursuing computer science.

    You probably worked with many who were on the spectrum but you
    wouldn't have known.

    None of the people that I worked with were anywhere near the spectrum,
    if for no other reason that HR would have weeded them out.

    Bullshit. A lot of people on the spectrum have never had an official diagnosis. How would HR know? How would HR *legally* weed them out?
    Then, FWIW, People on the spectrum are being actively sought out for
    roles in IT. One of my friends, now close to retirement, has been
    obviously on the spectrum since his days at Uni - full on geek. He has
    been a good friend since 1982 when we met at a geek meeting. He has
    never had trouble finding IT work in spite of him obviously being on the spectrum yet to this day undiagnosed. In fact, most at the geek meeting
    were clearly on the spectrum.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:38:20
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would have
    fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base 10 an
    base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, and
    Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical
    components, transmission line theory, impedance matching, microwaves,
    antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational** constant, approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for natural logarithms
    and exponential functions, representing continuous growth, like compound interest or population growth, and appears in calculus, finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places.

    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:41:15
    On 16/01/2026 6:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 2:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would have
    fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.


    He's only got one shovel.

    True and there is a whole lot of shit from your cult to did through.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:42:36
    On 16/01/2026 8:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 3:50 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 3:51 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 8:55 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 3:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid >>>>>>>>> twice as much as others because he was so good yet not
    qualified as he denigrated people with real qualifications in >>>>>>>>> the group as per usual - before getting smacked down. For such >>>>>>>>> an underachiever he sure likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain >>>>>>>>> has obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in >>>>>>>>> a small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees >>>>>>>>> in the
    subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who >>>>>>>>> people come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very >>>>>>> good, others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were >>>>>>> totally unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others >>>>>>> were as good as one man short.

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from
    someone with no recent practical experience and getting a piece >>>>>>> of paper at the end.

    Especially true in IT, when my son worked in London for an IT
    startup (It was called Hailo, they invented the software to run
    taxi bookings similar to Uber who actually copied/stole the
    software ) they sometimes went looking for IT talent in gaming
    platforms and offered jobs to a few, they had to pass a test and
    those that did were offered jobs, some had no qualifications apart >>>>>> from basic secondary school, they were late teens or early 20's,
    some turned out to be very good at their jobs.


    Kids who are good at gaming are likely to have skillsets
    transferable to programming. Transferable experience, who would
    have thought? These skillsets include logic, problem-solving,
    pattern recognition, persistence and the breaking down of large
    complex tasks. Unsurprisingly, some of those well honed skillsets
    are found in young people with ASD. ASD people autistic youth often >>>>> excel at gaming and spend a lot of time playing due to shared
    traits like intense focus and pattern recognition, finding gaming a >>>>> structured, socially comfortable space to build skills where their
    experience with overcoming game challenges and enjoying deep focus
    can make the learning curve smoother, especially for game
    development or logic- based coding.
    Should anyone bother to check, the most successful of those
    transitioning to programming from gaming are likely to be
    undiagnosed ASDs.

    ASDs are unlikely to be successful programmers in the commercial
    world, One of the characteristics of an ASD is a lack of
    communications skills. Large commercial pieces of software are
    written by teams not some lone brilliant person and interpersonal
    communications are very important. Working in such a team is very
    different to doing it all by yourself, as I found out when I started
    programming professionally.

    Omigod you talk some shit. Some *facts* for you.


    Baron-Cohen further reports an elevated prevalence of autistic
    individuals in STEM-related careers (Baron-Cohen, 2000). Finally, one
    study investigates the prevalence of individuals with ASD in computer
    science majors (White et al., 2011). The authors find that there is a
    relation between computer science majors and higher scores on the
    autism spectrum quotient measurement instrument AQ (Baron-Cohen et
    al., 2006). They found that over 50 percent of the university
    students who scored high on the AQ were pursuing computer science.

    You probably worked with many who were on the spectrum but you
    wouldn't have known.

    None of the people that I worked with were anywhere near the spectrum,
    if for no other reason that HR would have weeded them out.

    Bullshit. A lot of people on the spectrum have never had an official diagnosis. How would HR know? How would HR *legally* weed them out?
    Then, FWIW, People on the spectrum are being actively sought out for
    roles in IT. One of my friends, now close to retirement, has been
    obviously on the spectrum since his days at Uni - full on geek. He has
    been a good friend since 1982 when we met at a geek meeting. He has
    never had trouble finding IT work in spite of him obviously being on the spectrum yet to this day undiagnosed. In fact, most at the geek meeting
    were clearly on the spectrum.

    Bet he's never worked for a large corporation (that is if he exists at all)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 21:15:18
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- is- >>>>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that was
    relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?



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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 21:21:17
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car-is- >>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What was
    the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example when asked.

    That's not a serious test. The dumbest fraud could cut'n'paste endless
    code from any of a squillion sites.


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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 22:36:30
    On 16/1/2026 9:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 2:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would
    have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.


    He's only got one shovel.

    True and there is a whole lot of shit from your cult to did through.

    No cult here. You're worshiping at the altar of the cult of Darren. Too
    bad Darren has turned out to be a *false prophet*.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 22:38:14
    On 16/1/2026 9:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 9:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 3:50 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 3:51 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 8:55 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 3:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid >>>>>>>>>> twice as much as others because he was so good yet not
    qualified as he denigrated people with real qualifications in >>>>>>>>>> the group as per usual - before getting smacked down. For such >>>>>>>>>> an underachiever he sure likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his >>>>>>>>>> brain has obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in >>>>>>>>>> a small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have
    degrees in the
    subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who >>>>>>>>>> people come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very >>>>>>>> good, others despite their qualificatios were useless, there
    were totally unqualified people who did an excellent job, while >>>>>>>> others were as good as one man short.

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from
    someone with no recent practical experience and getting a piece >>>>>>>> of paper at the end.

    Especially true in IT, when my son worked in London for an IT
    startup (It was called Hailo, they invented the software to run >>>>>>> taxi bookings similar to Uber who actually copied/stole the
    software ) they sometimes went looking for IT talent in gaming
    platforms and offered jobs to a few, they had to pass a test and >>>>>>> those that did were offered jobs, some had no qualifications
    apart from basic secondary school, they were late teens or early >>>>>>> 20's, some turned out to be very good at their jobs.


    Kids who are good at gaming are likely to have skillsets
    transferable to programming. Transferable experience, who would
    have thought? These skillsets include logic, problem-solving,
    pattern recognition, persistence and the breaking down of large
    complex tasks. Unsurprisingly, some of those well honed skillsets >>>>>> are found in young people with ASD. ASD people autistic youth
    often excel at gaming and spend a lot of time playing due to
    shared traits like intense focus and pattern recognition, finding >>>>>> gaming a structured, socially comfortable space to build skills
    where their experience with overcoming game challenges and
    enjoying deep focus can make the learning curve smoother,
    especially for game development or logic- based coding.
    Should anyone bother to check, the most successful of those
    transitioning to programming from gaming are likely to be
    undiagnosed ASDs.

    ASDs are unlikely to be successful programmers in the commercial
    world, One of the characteristics of an ASD is a lack of
    communications skills. Large commercial pieces of software are
    written by teams not some lone brilliant person and interpersonal
    communications are very important. Working in such a team is very
    different to doing it all by yourself, as I found out when I
    started programming professionally.

    Omigod you talk some shit. Some *facts* for you.


    Baron-Cohen further reports an elevated prevalence of autistic
    individuals in STEM-related careers (Baron-Cohen, 2000). Finally,
    one study investigates the prevalence of individuals with ASD in
    computer science majors (White et al., 2011). The authors find that
    there is a relation between computer science majors and higher
    scores on the autism spectrum quotient measurement instrument AQ
    (Baron-Cohen et al., 2006). They found that over 50 percent of the
    university students who scored high on the AQ were pursuing computer
    science.

    You probably worked with many who were on the spectrum but you
    wouldn't have known.

    None of the people that I worked with were anywhere near the
    spectrum, if for no other reason that HR would have weeded them out.

    Bullshit. A lot of people on the spectrum have never had an official
    diagnosis. How would HR know? How would HR *legally* weed them out?
    Then, FWIW, People on the spectrum are being actively sought out for
    roles in IT. One of my friends, now close to retirement, has been
    obviously on the spectrum since his days at Uni - full on geek. He has
    been a good friend since 1982 when we met at a geek meeting. He has
    never had trouble finding IT work in spite of him obviously being on
    the spectrum yet to this day undiagnosed. In fact, most at the geek
    meeting were clearly on the spectrum.

    Bet he's never worked for a large corporation (that is if he exists at all)

    Currently working for a corporation based in Sth Melbourne.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 22:39:00
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that was
    relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 19:59:37
    On 16/01/2026 6:07 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified
    as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as
    per usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever >>>>>> he sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at
    what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm good at
    what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you mean.
    I was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of
    difference to what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still get
    paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average wage
    and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than double.
    Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse
    handed to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time enabling
    a compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.

    I'm not sure what reality you're living in

    The real world you have long vacated you demented old fool.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:05:18
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that was
    relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:07:18
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS thing or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:10:46
    On 16/01/2026 6:03 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:58 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 11:23 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Yada tada yada same shit different day.


    Fact. Endless firmware and software updates prove how useless
    programmers are. Not surprising when they have mushbrains like you
    doing the programming.

    On 3/01/2026 9:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:



    <snip stuff that I have no answer for>

    A great impression of Usain Bolt.

    Just one example of endless cases of "Software engineer" and
    "programmer" gross incompetence;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WiQAOmESH0

    So a niche car manufacturer hired a (probably cheap) bunch of
    incompetent programmers

    Assumption and there is no evidence that you were competent.


    No wonder when even illogical mushbrains like you get a title of
    "programmer" or "software engineer" assuming you weren't lying about
    that too.

    You're the liar boy.

    That's your worthless opinion, I brought the evidence proving *you* are
    a liar.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 23:11:21
    On 16/01/2026 9:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:22 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Bullshit. A lot of people on the spectrum have never had an official
    diagnosis. How would HR know? How would HR *legally* weed them out?
    Then, FWIW, People on the spectrum are being actively sought out for
    roles in IT. One of my friends, now close to retirement, has been
    obviously on the spectrum since his days at Uni - full on geek. He has
    been a good friend since 1982 when we met at a geek meeting. He has
    never had trouble finding IT work in spite of him obviously being on
    the spectrum yet to this day undiagnosed. In fact, most at the geek
    meeting were clearly on the spectrum.

    Bet he's never worked for a large corporation (that is if he exists at all)

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh? No matter *what* the
    subject matter, he remarkably has a "friend" who is involved at expert
    level and has passed knowledge onto the mental case to make *him* an
    expert despite having no direct hands on experience.

    Maybe that's where his "transferred experience" theory comes from :)

    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 23:13:35
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified
    fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that
    was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:14:56
    On 16/01/2026 6:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 3:50 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 3:51 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 8:55 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 3:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid >>>>>>>> twice as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified >>>>>>>> as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as >>>>>>>> per usual - before getting smacked down. For such an
    underachiever he sure likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain >>>>>>>> has obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a >>>>>>>> small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees >>>>>>>> in the
    subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who
    people come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very
    good, others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were >>>>>> totally unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others >>>>>> were as good as one man short.

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone >>>>>> with no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper
    at the end.

    Especially true in IT, when my son worked in London for an IT
    startup (It was called Hailo, they invented the software to run
    taxi bookings similar to Uber who actually copied/stole the
    software ) they sometimes went looking for IT talent in gaming
    platforms and offered jobs to a few, they had to pass a test and
    those that did were offered jobs, some had no qualifications apart
    from basic secondary school, they were late teens or early 20's,
    some turned out to be very good at their jobs.


    Kids who are good at gaming are likely to have skillsets
    transferable to programming. Transferable experience, who would have
    thought? These skillsets include logic, problem-solving, pattern
    recognition, persistence and the breaking down of large complex
    tasks. Unsurprisingly, some of those well honed skillsets are found
    in young people with ASD. ASD people autistic youth often excel at
    gaming and spend a lot of time playing due to shared traits like
    intense focus and pattern recognition, finding gaming a structured,
    socially comfortable space to build skills where their experience
    with overcoming game challenges and enjoying deep focus can make the
    learning curve smoother, especially for game development or logic-
    based coding.
    Should anyone bother to check, the most successful of those
    transitioning to programming from gaming are likely to be
    undiagnosed ASDs.

    ASDs are unlikely to be successful programmers in the commercial
    world, One of the characteristics of an ASD is a lack of
    communications skills. Large commercial pieces of software are
    written by teams not some lone brilliant person and interpersonal
    communications are very important. Working in such a team is very
    different to doing it all by yourself, as I found out when I started
    programming professionally.

    Omigod you talk some shit. Some *facts* for you.


    Baron-Cohen further reports an elevated prevalence of autistic
    individuals in STEM-related careers (Baron-Cohen, 2000). Finally, one
    study investigates the prevalence of individuals with ASD in computer
    science majors (White et al., 2011). The authors find that there is a
    relation between computer science majors and higher scores on the
    autism spectrum quotient measurement instrument AQ (Baron-Cohen et
    al., 2006). They found that over 50 percent of the university students
    who scored high on the AQ were pursuing computer science.

    You probably worked with many who were on the spectrum but you
    wouldn't have known.

    None of the people that I worked with were anywhere near the spectrum,
    if for no other reason that HR would have weeded them out.

    There is no way you were ever a competent programmer. You're an idiot.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 23:17:39
    On 16/01/2026 8:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    When did you ask?

    Not that I've been following this juvenile back and forth bullshit
    enough to know whether he asked or not, but if he did then it would be
    the absolute fucking *height* of hypocrisy for him to have done so given
    all the noise he made about not having to respond to your request that
    he give some examples of his ability to program in Arduino.

    These dickheads give new meaning to "retarded".



    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 22:24:39
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would have
    fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base 10 an
    base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, and
    Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical components, transmission line theory, impedance matching, microwaves, antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational** constant, approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for natural logarithms
    and exponential functions, representing continuous growth, like compound interest or population growth, and appears in calculus, finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places.

    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is *exactly* the
    same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism, selective snipping and
    furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep in his arse.

    --
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    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 23:42:08
    On 16/1/2026 11:11 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:22 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Bullshit. A lot of people on the spectrum have never had an official
    diagnosis. How would HR know? How would HR *legally* weed them out?
    Then, FWIW, People on the spectrum are being actively sought out for
    roles in IT. One of my friends, now close to retirement, has been
    obviously on the spectrum since his days at Uni - full on geek. He
    has been a good friend since 1982 when we met at a geek meeting. He
    has never had trouble finding IT work in spite of him obviously being
    on the spectrum yet to this day undiagnosed. In fact, most at the
    geek meeting were clearly on the spectrum.

    Bet he's never worked for a large corporation (that is if he exists at
    all)

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh? No matter *what* the

    Have a lot of friends in IT in Melbourne, most are still extant.

    This particular one is IT support at National Tiles in Melbourne.
    At this address; 541 Graham Street, Port Melbourne, Victoria 3207,

    National Tiles is a large, family-owned Australian tile
    retailer, operating over 40 stores nationwide with
    significant revenue (over $150M reported in 2021) and
    employing hundreds, positioning itself as a market leader
    for DIY and builders, with a focus on expansion across
    major cities and regional areas.

    subject matter, he remarkably has a "friend" who is involved at expert

    When you have real jobs, real careers and don't hide on desolate mesas,
    you get to meet lots of people and many become friends. I get that this
    is something beyond your ken but it does happen.

    level and has passed knowledge onto the mental case to make *him* an

    It's called mentoring Darren. Again, I am not surprised it is a concept
    alien to your existence. Nobody would bother mentoring you since it was obviously not a fruitful use of their time.

    expert despite having no direct hands on experience.

    Oh, I have *direct hands on experience* in IT Darren. Remember, when I attained my permanent position at Richmond TAFE Automotive Department, I
    was made the Network Admin almost on day one. That would have been the
    second half of 1985. And I learnt a heap from my mate at National Tiles
    over the years, him and many others. I have only his personal mobile
    number so you definitely won't be getting that!

    Maybe that's where his "transferred experience" theory comes from :)

    You still don't get it, do you? Not at all surprising.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 00:15:44
    On 16/1/2026 11:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    When did you ask?

    Not that I've been following this juvenile back and forth bullshit

    Bullshit you haven't Darren! You have been following very closely!

    enough to know whether he asked or not, but if he did then it would be
    the absolute fucking *height* of hypocrisy for him to have done so given
    all the noise he made about not having to respond to your request that
    he give some examples of his ability to program in Arduino.

    These dickheads give new meaning to "retarded".

    You did that decades back, when you were 8 and dubbed Noddy by your dad!

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 07:45:51
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified
    as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as
    per usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever >>>>>> he sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as
    much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, as
    per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at
    what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm good at
    what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you mean.
    I was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of
    difference to what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still get
    paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average wage
    and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than double.
    Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse
    handed to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time enabling
    a compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.

    I'm not sure what reality you're living in but it sure ain't the one
    that the rest of us are.

    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are you
    sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 07:49:06
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't be able
    to get up...


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 07:58:20
    Noddy wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    When did you ask?

    Not that I've been following this juvenile back and forth bullshit...

    Sure you haven't Buffo. I believe you. Honest.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 10:26:16
    On 17/1/2026 8:45 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified
    fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified >>>>>>> as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as >>>>>>> per usual - before getting smacked down. For such an
    underachiever he sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as >>>>>> much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar,
    as per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at >>>>> what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm good
    at what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you mean.
    I was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of
    difference to what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still get
    paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average wage
    and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than double.
    Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse
    handed to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time enabling
    a compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.

    I'm not sure what reality you're living in but it sure ain't the one
    that the rest of us are.

    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are you
    sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    Hey, maybe one of them is a sock puppet???

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 10:30:29
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't be able
    to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come up
    short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant to the
    claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100% irrelevant to the
    motor trade and always has been.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 14:19:27
    On 16-Jan-26 11:07 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS thing or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    *I* asked for *proof* of my (according to you) LIES!. And you *RAN
    AWAY* as per usual... WHODATHUNKIT!.



    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 11:40:51
    On 16/01/2026 7:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 9:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 2:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would
    have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.


    He's only got one shovel.

    True and there is a whole lot of shit from your cult to did through.

    No cult here. You're worshiping at the altar of the cult of Darren. Too
    bad Darren has turned out to be a *false prophet*.


    Yep, "JD" Richo has gone all in and sacrificed any integrity he might
    have had in the process.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 12:30:41
    On 16/01/2026 8:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would
    have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base 10
    an base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, and
    Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple
    differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous
    differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical
    components, transmission line theory, impedance matching, microwaves,
    antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational** constant,
    approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for natural logarithms
    and exponential functions, representing continuous growth, like
    compound interest or population growth, and appears in calculus,
    finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places.

    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is *exactly* the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism, selective snipping and
    furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep in his arse.


    lol, and so true.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 14:35:40
    On 16/01/2026 10:10 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:03 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:58 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 11:23 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Yada tada yada same shit different day.


    Fact. Endless firmware and software updates prove how useless
    programmers are. Not surprising when they have mushbrains like you
    doing the programming.

    On 3/01/2026 9:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:



    <snip stuff that I have no answer for>

    A great impression of Usain Bolt.

    Just one example of endless cases of "Software engineer" and
    "programmer" gross incompetence;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WiQAOmESH0

    So a niche car manufacturer hired a (probably cheap) bunch of
    incompetent programmers

    Assumption and there is no evidence that you were competent.

    Neither is there any evidence of your competence.

    No wonder when even illogical mushbrains like you get a title of
    "programmer" or "software engineer" assuming you weren't lying about
    that too.

    You're the liar boy.

    That's your worthless opinion, I brought the evidence proving *you* are
    a liar.

    No you didn't your "Evidence" was just a load of crap.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 14:38:12
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS thing or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I challenged you to
    prove that you could. You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 14:39:03
    On 16/01/2026 11:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    When did you ask?

    Not that I've been following this juvenile back and forth bullshit
    Bullshit you haven't Darren! You have been following very closely!

    ˙enough to know whether he asked or not, but if he did then it would be
    the absolute fucking *height* of hypocrisy for him to have done so
    given all the noise he made about not having to respond to your
    request that he give some examples of his ability to program in Arduino.

    These dickheads give new meaning to "retarded".

    You did that decades back, when you were 8 and dubbed Noddy by your dad!

    Another boring "No you".

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 14:51:50
    On 16/01/2026 9:21 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    That's not a serious test. The dumbest fraud could cut'n'paste endless
    code from any of a squillion sites.

    OK then alvo, C code for an RPI 2350 to interface with a Ublox GPS
    module, calculate trip time, trip distance, average speed, and display
    the results on a Nextion display along with current speed, current time, current pDOP, lat and long. Split the task between the 2 CPUs in a
    logical manner, use interrupts to simplify the code.

    Off you go, you should be able to do it in 520 lines or less including comments.

    I'm sure that you'll find exactly what you need in one of the squillion
    sites.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 14:53:34
    On 16/01/2026 10:13 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that
    was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    I never met him there, but it was a big Fortune 500 company.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 14:56:05
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that was
    relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 14:57:48
    On 16/01/2026 9:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified
    fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that
    was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    See my reply to alvo and apologise. I know that you won't because you
    and your fellow cultist never admit that you were wrong.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 14:58:37
    On 17/01/2026 7:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't be able
    to get up...

    Gravity does get stronger every year.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 14:59:21
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't be
    able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come up
    short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant to the
    claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100% irrelevant to the
    motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 15:07:56
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified
    fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified >>>>>>> as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as >>>>>>> per usual - before getting smacked down. For such an
    underachiever he sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice as >>>>>> much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar,
    as per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at >>>>> what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm good
    at what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you mean.
    I was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of
    difference to what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still get
    paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average wage
    and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than double.
    Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse
    handed to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time enabling
    a compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.

    I'm not sure what reality you're living in but it sure ain't the one
    that the rest of us are.

    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are you
    sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    You seem you have some sort of hangup about my DNA, at least is carries
    on to a greater or lesser extent in 21 descendants. How about you?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 15:08:30
    On 17/01/2026 9:26 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:45 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid >>>>>>>> twice as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified >>>>>>>> as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as >>>>>>>> per usual - before getting smacked down. For such an
    underachiever he sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice >>>>>>> as much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, >>>>>> as per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good
    at what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not qualified
    as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as
    per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm good
    at what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you
    mean. I was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of
    difference to what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still get
    paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average
    wage and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than
    double. Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse
    handed to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time
    enabling a compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.

    I'm not sure what reality you're living in but it sure ain't the one
    that the rest of us are.

    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are you
    sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    Hey, maybe one of them is a sock puppet???

    Maybe your followers are.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 15:10:28
    On 16/01/2026 10:14 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 3:50 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 3:51 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 8:55 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 15/1/2026 3:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid >>>>>>>>> twice as much as others because he was so good yet not
    qualified as he denigrated people with real qualifications in >>>>>>>>> the group as per usual - before getting smacked down. For such >>>>>>>>> an underachiever he sure likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain >>>>>>>>> has obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in >>>>>>>>> a small
    group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees >>>>>>>>> in the
    subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who >>>>>>>>> people come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very >>>>>>> good, others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were >>>>>>> totally unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others >>>>>>> were as good as one man short.

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from
    someone with no recent practical experience and getting a piece >>>>>>> of paper at the end.

    Especially true in IT, when my son worked in London for an IT
    startup (It was called Hailo, they invented the software to run
    taxi bookings similar to Uber who actually copied/stole the
    software ) they sometimes went looking for IT talent in gaming
    platforms and offered jobs to a few, they had to pass a test and
    those that did were offered jobs, some had no qualifications apart >>>>>> from basic secondary school, they were late teens or early 20's,
    some turned out to be very good at their jobs.


    Kids who are good at gaming are likely to have skillsets
    transferable to programming. Transferable experience, who would
    have thought? These skillsets include logic, problem-solving,
    pattern recognition, persistence and the breaking down of large
    complex tasks. Unsurprisingly, some of those well honed skillsets
    are found in young people with ASD. ASD people autistic youth often >>>>> excel at gaming and spend a lot of time playing due to shared
    traits like intense focus and pattern recognition, finding gaming a >>>>> structured, socially comfortable space to build skills where their
    experience with overcoming game challenges and enjoying deep focus
    can make the learning curve smoother, especially for game
    development or logic- based coding.
    Should anyone bother to check, the most successful of those
    transitioning to programming from gaming are likely to be
    undiagnosed ASDs.

    ASDs are unlikely to be successful programmers in the commercial
    world, One of the characteristics of an ASD is a lack of
    communications skills. Large commercial pieces of software are
    written by teams not some lone brilliant person and interpersonal
    communications are very important. Working in such a team is very
    different to doing it all by yourself, as I found out when I started
    programming professionally.

    Omigod you talk some shit. Some *facts* for you.


    Baron-Cohen further reports an elevated prevalence of autistic
    individuals in STEM-related careers (Baron-Cohen, 2000). Finally, one
    study investigates the prevalence of individuals with ASD in computer
    science majors (White et al., 2011). The authors find that there is a
    relation between computer science majors and higher scores on the
    autism spectrum quotient measurement instrument AQ (Baron-Cohen et
    al., 2006). They found that over 50 percent of the university
    students who scored high on the AQ were pursuing computer science.

    You probably worked with many who were on the spectrum but you
    wouldn't have known.

    None of the people that I worked with were anywhere near the spectrum,
    if for no other reason that HR would have weeded them out.

    There is no way you were ever a competent programmer. You're an idiot.

    Gawd you're funny, stupid but funny.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 15:12:37
    On 16/01/2026 9:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 9:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 2:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would
    have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.


    He's only got one shovel.

    True and there is a whole lot of shit from your cult to did through.

    No cult here. You're worshiping at the altar of the cult of Darren. Too
    bad Darren has turned out to be a *false prophet*.

    The old "No you" yet again, even my great-grandchildren have got past
    that stage, maybe you're reverting to your second childhood.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 15:13:37
    On 17/01/2026 1:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 9:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 2:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would >>>>>>> have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees, >>>>>>
    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.


    He's only got one shovel.

    True and there is a whole lot of shit from your cult to did through.

    No cult here. You're worshiping at the altar of the cult of Darren.
    Too bad Darren has turned out to be a *false prophet*.


    Yep, "JD" Richo has gone all in and sacrificed any integrity he might
    have had in the process.


    Out with the shovel yet again even more clocky shit to dig through

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 15:14:28
    On 16/01/2026 10:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would
    have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base 10
    an base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, and
    Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple
    differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous
    differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical
    components, transmission line theory, impedance matching, microwaves,
    antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational** constant,
    approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for natural logarithms
    and exponential functions, representing continuous growth, like
    compound interest or population growth, and appears in calculus,
    finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places.

    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is *exactly* the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism, selective snipping and
    furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep in his arse.

    So you have no answer then.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 15:15:56
    On 17/01/2026 2:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would
    have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base 10
    an base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, and
    Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple
    differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous
    differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical
    components, transmission line theory, impedance matching, microwaves,
    antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational** constant,
    approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for natural logarithms
    and exponential functions, representing continuous growth, like
    compound interest or population growth, and appears in calculus,
    finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places.

    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is *exactly*
    the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first
    challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism, selective
    snipping and furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep in his arse.


    lol, and so true.

    Yes alvey you are sooooo a genius. Get a room you two, it's sickening to
    have to watch it.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 17:36:40
    On 17/1/2026 3:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that
    was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    See my reply to alvo and apologise. I know that you won't because you
    and your fellow cultist never admit that you were wrong.

    Proof?? There's a lack of it on your side of things.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 17:37:13
    On 17/1/2026 3:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't be
    able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come up
    short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant to the
    claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as *evidence* of
    possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100% irrelevant to the
    motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Lots


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 17:26:14
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would
    have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base 10
    an base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, and
    Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple
    differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous
    differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical
    components, transmission line theory, impedance matching, microwaves,
    antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational** constant,
    approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for natural logarithms
    and exponential functions, representing continuous growth, like
    compound interest or population growth, and appears in calculus,
    finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places.

    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is *exactly*
    the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first
    challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism, selective
    snipping and furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep in his arse.

    So you have no answer then.

    I asked you four 'serious' questions Ritcho, *none* of which you have responded to. You carried on like an Early Fraudster and concluded with
    an idiotic one. I believe the balls-up is in your court. Care to have
    another go.


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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 17:30:46
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would
    have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base 10
    an base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, and
    Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple
    differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous
    differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical
    components, transmission line theory, impedance matching, microwaves,
    antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational** constant,
    approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for natural logarithms
    and exponential functions, representing continuous growth, like
    compound interest or population growth, and appears in calculus,
    finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places.

    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is *exactly*
    the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first
    challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism, selective
    snipping and furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep in his arse.

    So you have no answer then.

    I asked you four OT questions Ritcho, *none* of which you have responded
    to. You carried on like an Early Fraudster and concluded with an idiotic
    one so the balls-up is comprehensively in your court. Care to have
    another go?



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    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 18:00:52
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:21 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- is- >>>>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    That's not a serious test. The dumbest fraud could cut'n'paste endless
    code from any of a squillion sites.

    OK then alvo, C code for an RPI 2350 to interface with a Ublox GPS
    module, calculate trip time, trip distance, average speed, and display
    the results on a Nextion display along with current speed, current time, current pDOP, lat and long. Split the task between the 2 CPUs in a
    logical manner, use interrupts to simplify the code.

    Off you go, you should be able to do it in 520 lines or less including comments.

    Why? I was pointing out the uselessness of asking someone to do code
    over the net.

    I'm sure that you'll find exactly what you need in one of the squillion
    sit
    Possibly, but it'd probably be faster to get one of those one off El
    Cheapo online contractors to do it.

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    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 17:39:17
    On 17/01/2026 1:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 2:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would >>>>>>> have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees, >>>>>>
    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base 10
    an base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, and
    Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple
    differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous
    differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical
    components, transmission line theory, impedance matching,
    microwaves, antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational**
    constant, approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for natural
    logarithms and exponential functions, representing continuous
    growth, like compound interest or population growth, and appears in
    calculus, finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places.

    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is *exactly*
    the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first
    challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism, selective
    snipping and furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep in his arse.


    lol, and so true.

    Yes alvey you are sooooo a genius. Get a room you two, it's sickening to have to watch it.

    Nobody is forcing you to watch you perv.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 17:40:59
    On 17/01/2026 1:13 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 1:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 9:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 2:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would >>>>>>>> have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees, >>>>>>>
    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.


    He's only got one shovel.

    True and there is a whole lot of shit from your cult to did through.

    No cult here. You're worshiping at the altar of the cult of Darren.
    Too bad Darren has turned out to be a *false prophet*.


    Yep, "JD" Richo has gone all in and sacrificed any integrity he might
    have had in the process.


    Out with the shovel yet again even more clocky shit to dig through

    You posted shit now you get to dig, JD.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 17:42:27
    On 17/01/2026 1:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:26 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:45 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- car-
    is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid >>>>>>>>> twice as much as others because he was so good yet not
    qualified as he denigrated people with real qualifications in >>>>>>>>> the group as per usual - before getting smacked down. For such >>>>>>>>> an underachiever he sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice >>>>>>>> as much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, >>>>>>> as per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good >>>>>>> at what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not qualified >>>>>> as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as
    per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm good >>>>>> at what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you
    mean. I was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of
    difference to what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still
    get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I
    do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average
    wage and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than
    double. Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse
    handed to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time
    enabling a compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.

    I'm not sure what reality you're living in but it sure ain't the one
    that the rest of us are.

    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are
    you sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    Hey, maybe one of them is a sock puppet???

    Maybe your followers are.


    A "No you" post. What were you saying about "No you" posts again, dumbarse?

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 17:45:05
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't be
    able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come up
    short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant to the
    claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as *evidence* of
    possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100% irrelevant to the
    motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members, you included, have.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 18:00:34
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS thing
    or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone can
    program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and upload it.
    arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you
    enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program an
    Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be sooper
    speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or some bullshit like
    that in one of your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But when
    you were asked to provide some proof of your superior programming
    abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of course, as always.

    At which point it was reasonable to conclude that you were full of shit,
    as per usual.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 20:26:58
    On 17/01/2026 6:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:21 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    That's not a serious test. The dumbest fraud could cut'n'paste
    endless code from any of a squillion sites.

    OK then alvo, C code for an RPI 2350 to interface with a Ublox GPS
    module, calculate trip time, trip distance, average speed, and display
    the results on a Nextion display along with current speed, current
    time, current pDOP, lat and long. Split the task between the 2 CPUs in
    a logical manner, use interrupts to simplify the code.

    Off you go, you should be able to do it in 520 lines or less including
    comments.

    Why? I was pointing out the uselessness of asking someone to do code
    over the net.

    I'm sure that you'll find exactly what you need in one of the
    squillion sit
    Possibly, but it'd probably be faster to get one of those one off El
    Cheapo online contractors to do it.

    Where is the fun and satisfaction in that? Presumably, you have never
    built something just for the hell of it.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 20:39:35
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified
    fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example >>>>> when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS thing
    or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I challenged you
    to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone can
    program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program an
    Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be sooper
    speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or some bullshit like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But when
    you were asked to provide some proof of your superior programming
    abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we? You said that anybody could do it,
    in which case, you should be able to, but you ran way covering your
    tracks with bullshit.

    At which point it was reasonable to conclude that you were full of shit,
    as per usual.

    At which point it was reasonable to conclude that you don't have a
    clue, as you have proven time after time.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 20:40:09
    On 17/01/2026 4:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 3:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that >>>>>>> was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    See my reply to alvo and apologise. I know that you won't because you
    and your fellow cultist never admit that you were wrong.

    Proof?? There's a lack of it on your side of things.

    Proof of what?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 20:42:14
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't be
    able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come up
    short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant to the
    claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as *evidence* of
    possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100% irrelevant to the
    motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members, you included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the train accident.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 20:43:15
    On 17/01/2026 7:42 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 1:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:26 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:45 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid >>>>>>>>>> twice as much as others because he was so good yet not
    qualified as he denigrated people with real qualifications in >>>>>>>>>> the group as per usual - before getting smacked down. For such >>>>>>>>>> an underachiever he sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice >>>>>>>>> as much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the
    liar, as per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good >>>>>>>> at what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not
    qualified as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the >>>>>>> group as per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm
    good at what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you
    mean. I was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of >>>>>> difference to what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still
    get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I >>>>>> do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average
    wage and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than
    double. Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse >>>>>> handed to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time
    enabling a compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.

    I'm not sure what reality you're living in but it sure ain't the
    one that the rest of us are.

    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are
    you sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    Hey, maybe one of them is a sock puppet???

    Maybe your followers are.


    A "No you" post. What were you saying about "No you" posts again, dumbarse?

    A dose of your own medicine.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 21:18:45
    On 17/01/2026 5:30 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would >>>>>>> have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees, >>>>>>
    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base 10
    an base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, and
    Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple
    differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous
    differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical
    components, transmission line theory, impedance matching,
    microwaves, antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational**
    constant, approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for natural
    logarithms and exponential functions, representing continuous
    growth, like compound interest or population growth, and appears in
    calculus, finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places.

    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is *exactly*
    the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first
    challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism, selective
    snipping and furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep in his arse.

    So you have no answer then.

    I asked you four OT questions Ritcho, *none* of which you have responded
    to. You carried on like an Early Fraudster and concluded with an idiotic
    one so the balls-up is comprehensively in your court. Care to have
    another go?

    couldn't wait 4 minutes for an answer?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 21:20:08
    On 17/01/2026 7:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 1:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 2:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would >>>>>>>> have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees, >>>>>>>
    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base
    10 an base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar,
    and Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple >>>>> differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous >>>>> differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical
    components, transmission line theory, impedance matching,
    microwaves, antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational**
    constant, approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for
    natural logarithms and exponential functions, representing
    continuous growth, like compound interest or population growth, and >>>>> appears in calculus, finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places. >>>>>
    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is *exactly*
    the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first
    challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism,
    selective snipping and furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep
    in his arse.


    lol, and so true.

    Yes alvey you are sooooo a genius. Get a room you two, it's sickening
    to have to watch it.

    Nobody is forcing you to watch you perv.

    It's lie a slow motion train wreck, hard not to even though it's disgusting.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 21:20:42
    On 17/01/2026 7:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 1:13 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 1:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 9:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 2:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would >>>>>>>>> have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees, >>>>>>>>
    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices? >>>>>>>>
    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.


    He's only got one shovel.

    True and there is a whole lot of shit from your cult to did through.

    No cult here. You're worshiping at the altar of the cult of Darren.
    Too bad Darren has turned out to be a *false prophet*.


    Yep, "JD" Richo has gone all in and sacrificed any integrity he might
    have had in the process.


    Out with the shovel yet again even more clocky shit to dig through

    You posted shit now you get to dig, JD.

    "No you" again.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 19:34:13
    On 17/01/2026 6:26 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:21 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified
    fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example >>>>> when asked.

    That's not a serious test. The dumbest fraud could cut'n'paste
    endless code from any of a squillion sites.

    OK then alvo, C code for an RPI 2350 to interface with a Ublox GPS
    module, calculate trip time, trip distance, average speed, and
    display the results on a Nextion display along with current speed,
    current time, current pDOP, lat and long. Split the task between the
    2 CPUs in a logical manner, use interrupts to simplify the code.

    Off you go, you should be able to do it in 520 lines or less
    including comments.

    Why? I was pointing out the uselessness of asking someone to do code
    over the net.

    I'm sure that you'll find exactly what you need in one of the
    squillion sit
    Possibly, but it'd probably be faster to get one of those one off El
    Cheapo online contractors to do it.

    Where is the fun and satisfaction in that? Presumably, you have never
    built something just for the hell of it.

    It's even better when other people demand the product you designed and
    built for yourself and you end up making a profit from it :-)



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 21:38:33
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:21 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified
    fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example >>>>> when asked.

    That's not a serious test. The dumbest fraud could cut'n'paste
    endless code from any of a squillion sites.

    OK then alvo, C code for an RPI 2350 to interface with a Ublox GPS
    module, calculate trip time, trip distance, average speed, and
    display the results on a Nextion display along with current speed,
    current time, current pDOP, lat and long. Split the task between the
    2 CPUs in a logical manner, use interrupts to simplify the code.

    Off you go, you should be able to do it in 520 lines or less
    including comments.

    Why? I was pointing out the uselessness of asking someone to do code
    over the net.

    I'm sure that you'll find exactly what you need in one of the
    squillion sit
    Possibly, but it'd probably be faster to get one of those one off El
    Cheapo online contractors to do it.

    Where is the fun and satisfaction in that?

    You've missed the point.

    Presumably, you have never built something just for the hell of it.

    Don't tell me. You built the Concorde for fun.




    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 19:44:05
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an
    example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS
    thing or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I challenged you
    to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone can
    program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and upload it.
    arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit
    you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program an
    Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be sooper
    speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or some bullshit
    like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But
    when you were asked to provide some proof of your superior programming
    abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is JD
    Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the crunch you
    run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 19:48:09
    On 17/01/2026 12:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:13 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- car-
    is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that >>>>>>> was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    I never met him there, but it was a big Fortune 500 company.

    Don't undersell yourself Richo, I'm sure in your mind Makebelieve Inc.
    is a huuuuuuge fortune 500 company.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 19:49:17
    On 17/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 4:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 3:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us. >>>>>>>>>
    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that >>>>>>>> was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    See my reply to alvo and apologise. I know that you won't because you
    and your fellow cultist never admit that you were wrong.

    Proof?? There's a lack of it on your side of things.

    Proof of what?

    Intelligence, integrity and honesty for starters.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 19:50:07
    On 17/01/2026 6:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't be >>>>> able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come
    up short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant to
    the claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as
    *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100%
    irrelevant to the motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members, you
    included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the train accident.

    Not so.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 19:51:28
    On 17/01/2026 7:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 1:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 2:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would >>>>>>>>> have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees, >>>>>>>>
    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices? >>>>>>>>
    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset. >>>>>>
    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base >>>>>> 10 an base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, >>>>>> and Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with
    simple differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving
    simultaneous differential equations, Laplace transforms, and
    Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical >>>>>> components, transmission line theory, impedance matching,
    microwaves, antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational**
    constant, approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for
    natural logarithms and exponential functions, representing
    continuous growth, like compound interest or population growth,
    and appears in calculus, finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places. >>>>>>
    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is
    *exactly* the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were
    first challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism,
    selective snipping and furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep
    in his arse.


    lol, and so true.

    Yes alvey you are sooooo a genius. Get a room you two, it's sickening
    to have to watch it.

    Nobody is forcing you to watch you perv.

    It's lie

    Yeah you do that a lot.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 19:53:21
    On 17/01/2026 7:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 1:13 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 1:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 9:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:04 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 2:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that >>>>>>>>>> would have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get >>>>>>>>>> degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices? >>>>>>>>>
    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.


    He's only got one shovel.

    True and there is a whole lot of shit from your cult to did through. >>>>>
    No cult here. You're worshiping at the altar of the cult of Darren. >>>>> Too bad Darren has turned out to be a *false prophet*.


    Yep, "JD" Richo has gone all in and sacrificed any integrity he
    might have had in the process.


    Out with the shovel yet again even more clocky shit to dig through

    You posted shit now you get to dig, JD.

    "No you" again.

    All you are capable of evidently.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 22:04:24
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't be >>>>> able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come
    up short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant to
    the claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as
    *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100%
    irrelevant to the motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members, you
    included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the train accident.

    And what verifiable proof of any of his big claims has the Fraudster
    ever supplied Richo?


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 23:40:13
    On 17/1/2026 10:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't
    be able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come
    up short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant to >>>>> the claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as
    *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100%
    irrelevant to the motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members,
    you included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the
    train accident.

    Not so.

    Indeed not so. I provided ample proof - verifiable too, of my status as
    a mechanic and a teacher, I offered up reg numbers of my qualifications,
    and when I countermanded Darren's technical lies, I offered up heaps of
    links to reputable sources that backed up my technical thoughts - like
    the recent one on bearing crush. I even gave a *logic flow* of my
    thought processes as I diagnosed what caused that valve head to drop off
    and wreck an engine Darren worked on. FFS, Daryl even provided a link
    that showed Darren was a liar - the hours, and years, AME apprentices
    attend TAFE. That was funny! That led to further enlightenment about AME apprenticeship entry levels - year 10. Darren couldn't have qualified
    for that role even if he had graduated from year 9.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 06:02:21
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:26 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:45 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- car-
    is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid >>>>>>>>> twice as much as others because he was so good yet not
    qualified as he denigrated people with real qualifications in >>>>>>>>> the group as per usual - before getting smacked down. For such >>>>>>>>> an underachiever he sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice >>>>>>>> as much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the liar, >>>>>>> as per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good >>>>>>> at what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not qualified >>>>>> as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as
    per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm good >>>>>> at what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you
    mean. I was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of
    difference to what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still
    get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I
    do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average
    wage and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than
    double. Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse
    handed to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time
    enabling a compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.

    I'm not sure what reality you're living in but it sure ain't the one
    that the rest of us are.

    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are
    you sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    Hey, maybe one of them is a sock puppet???

    Maybe your followers are.

    Whoops! That's *another* Fraudterism there Richo. Sociopaths believe
    that any group of people who resist their 'charms' *must* be being lead
    by a single person. This is because that is how they operate themselves.

    And besides, I've told you before, we're an anarco-syndicalist
    collective. (Only without an Executive Officer)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 06:06:49
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 am, alvey wrote:


    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are you
    sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    You seem you have some sort of hangup about my DNA, at least is carries
    on to a greater or lesser extent in 21 descendants.

    21 isn't a lot. Did the Sperm Bank take you off the donor list after
    some negative feedback from the parents?

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 06:22:11
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified
    fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What >>>>>>>> was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that
    was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after what I roughly calculate was your retirement.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 07:57:31
    On 18/1/2026 7:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that
    was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after what I roughly calculate was your retirement.

    That would have been about the time the company realised that hiring
    cheap unskilled and unqualified workers was a waste of their investment.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 11:07:31
    On 17-Jan-26 4:14 PM, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:24 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 4:18 pm, alvey wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:

    snip

    The phantom snipper strikes again.

    And why did you do that Richo? Something to hide?

    Well it ran for 5 years not 3, and included subjects that would
    have fried your brain.

    What subjects were these? And where did you do it?

    Out of the 30 of us in my year, at least 8 went on to get degrees,

    Did you get one? And if 'Yes', where from?

    and at least 2 became PhDs, how about your fellow apprentices?

    Yeah, that's helpful.

    You missed responding to this one Richo.

    Oh, did I upset you by not answering princess?

    OK I'll have to make amends, or you'll go to bed tonight all upset.

    Mathmatics - starting with simple stuff like logarithms both base 10
    an base e*, moving on to complex numbers and the use of polar, and
    Cartesian coordinates. Then on to calculus starting with simple
    differentiation, and integration, moving on to solving simultaneous
    differential equations, Laplace transforms, and Fourier analysis.

    Mathematical basis of active and passive electronic and electrical
    components, transmission line theory, impedance matching, microwaves,
    antennae etc etc.

    The whole thing was to teach how to design stuff not just fix it.

    * In math, e (Euler's number) is a fundamental irrational** constant,
    approximately 2.71828, that serves as the base for natural logarithms
    and exponential functions, representing continuous growth, like
    compound interest or population growth, and appears in calculus,
    finance, and
    natural sciences

    ** Irrational number - one with an infinite number of decimal places.

    Can you sleep tonight without worry tonight now?

    There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response is *exactly*
    the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first
    challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism, selective
    snipping and furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep in his arse.

    So you have no answer then.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Haha, of course not!. You gave the answer requested, nay, *demanded* and
    in the process let the silly cunt(s) know who`s Boss. ;)

    Need to rename alvira "PI", As in 'completely irrational'. ;)

    Proven by his response:

    "There's a coincidence. The style of this Richo response
    is *exactly*
    the same style that Fraudster adopted when his lies were first
    challenged. A mixture of sneering sarcasm, Real Man sexism, selective
    snipping and furious use of the bicycle pump that's deep in his
    arse." (HUH?)

    One can just imagine the spittle flying and the hammering on the keyboard!. Not to mention the red mist!. :):):)





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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 11:29:35
    On 17-Jan-26 10:44 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an
    example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS
    thing or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I challenged
    you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone can
    program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and upload it.
    arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit
    you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program an
    Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be sooper
    speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or some bullshit
    like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks.
    But when you were asked to provide some proof of your superior
    programming abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of course,
    as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is JD
    Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the crunch you
    run away with your tail between your legs. Always.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So, here you be, Screaming even *louder*! Yer done chuckles, sit down
    and SHUT UP!.




    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 11:33:39
    On 17-Jan-26 3:51 PM, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:21 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional
    programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an example
    when asked.

    That's not a serious test. The dumbest fraud could cut'n'paste endless
    code from any of a squillion sites.

    OK then alvo, C code for an RPI 2350 to interface with a Ublox GPS
    module, calculate trip time, trip distance, average speed, and display
    the results on a Nextion display along with current speed, current time, current pDOP, lat and long. Split the task between the 2 CPUs in a
    logical manner, use interrupts to simplify the code.

    Off you go, you should be able to do it in 520 lines or less including comments.

    I'm sure that you'll find exactly what you need in one of the squillion sites.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    <GRIN>



    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 08:59:45
    On 18/01/2026 4:06 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 am, alvey wrote:


    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are
    you sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    You seem you have some sort of hangup about my DNA, at least is
    carries on to a greater or lesser extent in 21 descendants.

    21 isn't a lot. Did the Sperm Bank take you off the donor list after
    some negative feedback from the parents?


    He's had a few cumbacks?





    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 09:07:14
    On 18/01/2026 4:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that
    was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after what I roughly calculate was your retirement.



    "retirement".

    They probably pushed the dead wood out the door.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 09:13:22
    On 17/01/2026 12:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:10 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:03 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:58 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 11:23 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Yada tada yada same shit different day.


    Fact. Endless firmware and software updates prove how useless
    programmers are. Not surprising when they have mushbrains like you >>>>>> doing the programming.

    On 3/01/2026 9:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:



    <snip stuff that I have no answer for>

    A great impression of Usain Bolt.

    Just one example of endless cases of "Software engineer" and
    "programmer" gross incompetence;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WiQAOmESH0

    So a niche car manufacturer hired a (probably cheap) bunch of
    incompetent programmers

    Assumption and there is no evidence that you were competent.

    Neither is there any evidence of your competence.



    Of course there is.

    No wonder when even illogical mushbrains like you get a title of
    "programmer" or "software engineer" assuming you weren't lying about
    that too.

    You're the liar boy.

    That's your worthless opinion, I brought the evidence proving *you*
    are a liar.

    No you didn't your "Evidence" was just a load of crap.


    So you admit your own words were "just a load of crap".

    We agree on that.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 09:30:04
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:22 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Bullshit. A lot of people on the spectrum have never had an official
    diagnosis. How would HR know? How would HR *legally* weed them out?
    Then, FWIW, People on the spectrum are being actively sought out for
    roles in IT. One of my friends, now close to retirement, has been
    obviously on the spectrum since his days at Uni - full on geek. He
    has been a good friend since 1982 when we met at a geek meeting. He
    has never had trouble finding IT work in spite of him obviously being
    on the spectrum yet to this day undiagnosed. In fact, most at the
    geek meeting were clearly on the spectrum.

    Bet he's never worked for a large corporation (that is if he exists at
    all)

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?


    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with the
    running shoes and away you went!

    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an imaginary
    BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street party elsewhere
    that you presumably didn't get an invite to you deceitful blowhard :-)



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 11:46:22
    Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:22 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Bullshit. A lot of people on the spectrum have never had an official
    diagnosis. How would HR know? How would HR *legally* weed them out?
    Then, FWIW, People on the spectrum are being actively sought out for
    roles in IT. One of my friends, now close to retirement, has been
    obviously on the spectrum since his days at Uni - full on geek. He
    has been a good friend since 1982 when we met at a geek meeting. He
    has never had trouble finding IT work in spite of him obviously
    being on the spectrum yet to this day undiagnosed. In fact, most at
    the geek meeting were clearly on the spectrum.

    Bet he's never worked for a large corporation (that is if he exists
    at all)

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with the running shoes and away you went!

    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an imaginary
    BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street party elsewhere
    that you presumably didn't get an invite to you deceitful blowhard :-)

    I don't think he repeats that claim, which is a tad contrary as he has a
    hefty back-catalogue of other lies that, despite a complete lack of
    proof *and* routine denials by the recipient, he just keeps on routinely trotting out. Honestly, he's like a dogma with a boner...

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 16:35:39
    On 18/01/2026 6:02 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:26 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:45 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 12:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 1:47 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid >>>>>>>>>> twice as much as others because he was so good yet not
    qualified as he denigrated people with real qualifications in >>>>>>>>>> the group as per usual - before getting smacked down. For such >>>>>>>>>> an underachiever he sure likes to boast.



    If you can't point to a post where I said that I got paid twice >>>>>>>>> as much as the others, then you are lying as usual

    *More* than twice as much, and I'll prove that *you're* the
    liar, as per usual.

    Same thread on 08/03/2014 keithr boasted;

    "I still get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good >>>>>>>> at what
    I do."


    Quote (your version):

    "Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid
    twice as much as *OTHERS* because he was so good yet not
    qualified as he denigrated people with real qualifications in the >>>>>>> group as per usual"

    When what I said was

    "I still get paid more than *TWICE THE AVERAGE WAGE* 'coz I'm
    good at what I do."

    Usual clocky distortion.



    Your usual keith mushbrained and pathetic weaseling in vain you
    mean. I was paraphrasing from memory not that it makes one iota of >>>>>> difference to what you claimed. You clearly stated that "I still
    get paid more than twice the average wage 'coz I'm good at what I >>>>>> do.".

    Your words.

    "Others" includes your co-workers when talking about the average
    wage and you clearly claimed you were getting paid *more* than
    double. Period. End of story. Just as I said. No distortion.

    You're an egotistical bullshit artist keith and you got your arse >>>>>> handed to you *again*. It's no wonder you spend so much time
    enabling a compulsive liar, you're a cut from the same cloth.

    I'm not sure what reality you're living in but it sure ain't the
    one that the rest of us are.

    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are
    you sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    Hey, maybe one of them is a sock puppet???

    Maybe your followers are.

    Whoops! That's *another* Fraudterism there Richo. Sociopaths believe
    that any group of people who resist their 'charms' *must* be being lead
    by a single person. This is because that is how they operate themselves.

    And besides, I've told you before, we're an anarco-syndicalist
    collective. (Only without an Executive Officer)

    More bullshit

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 16:37:18
    On 18/01/2026 10:59 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 4:06 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 am, alvey wrote:


    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are
    you sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    You seem you have some sort of hangup about my DNA, at least is
    carries on to a greater or lesser extent in 21 descendants.

    21 isn't a lot. Did the Sperm Bank take you off the donor list after
    some negative feedback from the parents?


    He's had a few cumbacks?

    Oh alvey what a wonderful putdown, you are a genius lick lick.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:43:38
    On 18/01/2026 12:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with the running shoes and away you went!

    Just like you did when you threatened to call the local tyre dealer here
    and get the "real story". You shit yourself and went whisper quiet when
    I gave you the number and told you who to ask for :)

    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an imaginary
    BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street party elsewhere
    that you presumably didn't get an invite to you deceitful blowhard :-)

    ROTFL :)

    You live 4 thousand fucking km's away you ignoramus. You have absolutely
    no idea what you're talking about :)


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:46:05
    On 18/01/2026 12:07 pm, Clocky wrote:


    "retirement".

    They probably pushed the dead wood out the door.

    Presumably now that you've had your laugh, you'll be giving us the name
    of the companies you've worked for. So we can all laugh about your
    vocational adventures.

    Shit, I can almost here the sound of you running away already :)



    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 18:00:12
    On 18/1/2026 5:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:07 pm, Clocky wrote:


    "retirement".

    They probably pushed the dead wood out the door.

    Presumably now that you've had your laugh, you'll be giving us the name
    of the companies you've worked for. So we can all laugh about your vocational adventures.

    Shit, I can almost here the sound of you running away already :)

    The number of companies you've worked for would be a very short list.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:30:12
    On 17/01/2026 10:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 10:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is >>>>>>>>> invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't >>>>>>> be able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come >>>>>> up short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant
    to the claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as
    *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100% >>>>>> irrelevant to the motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members,
    you included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the
    train accident.

    Not so.

    Indeed not so. I provided ample proof - verifiable too, of my status as
    a mechanic and a teacher, I offered up reg numbers of my qualifications,

    You posted a number that may or may not be that of a mechanic's licence.

    and when I countermanded Darren's technical lies, I offered up heaps of links to reputable sources that backed up my technical thoughts - like
    the recent one on bearing crush. I even gave a *logic flow* of my
    thought processes as I diagnosed what caused that valve head to drop off
    and wreck an engine Darren worked on. FFS, Daryl even provided a link
    that showed Darren was a liar - the hours, and years, AME apprentices
    attend TAFE. That was funny! That led to further enlightenment about AME apprenticeship entry levels - year 10. Darren couldn't have qualified
    for that role even if he had graduated from year 9.

    A lot of opinions, but not hard proof.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:30:50
    On 17/01/2026 10:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is
    invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't
    be able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come
    up short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant to >>>>> the claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as
    *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100%
    irrelevant to the motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members,
    you included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the
    train accident.

    And what verifiable proof of any of his big claims has the Fraudster
    ever supplied Richo?


    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:31:54
    On 17/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 4:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 3:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the company >>>>>>>>>>> called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    See my reply to alvo and apologise. I know that you won't because
    you and your fellow cultist never admit that you were wrong.

    Proof?? There's a lack of it on your side of things.

    Proof of what?

    Intelligence, integrity and honesty for starters.


    Gawd you're funny, how about the lies that you make up about people?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:33:27
    On 17/01/2026 9:48 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:13 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us. >>>>>>>>>
    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that >>>>>>>> was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    I never met him there, but it was a big Fortune 500 company.

    Don't undersell yourself Richo, I'm sure in your mind Makebelieve Inc.
    is a huuuuuuge fortune 500 company.

    I posted the name of the company, obviously you're too lazy or
    incompetent to notice.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:37:39
    On 18/01/2026 6:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that
    was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after what I roughly calculate was your retirement.

    The next time that you prove anything, I may decide to show proof or not.

    In the time that I worked there the shares went from $15 to $100, after splitting 3 times, then dropped to $5 in the tech wreck of 2000, finally climbing back up to $45 before Dell took over. They were a nice little
    earner.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:38:43
    On 18/01/2026 6:57 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 18/1/2026 7:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that >>>>>>> was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after what
    I roughly calculate was your retirement.

    That would have been about the time the company realised that hiring
    cheap unskilled and unqualified workers was a waste of their investment.

    What, the Indian that they hired on H1B visas? That was a mistake.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:39:29
    On 18/01/2026 11:07 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 4:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that >>>>>>> was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after what
    I roughly calculate was your retirement.



    "retirement".

    They probably pushed the dead wood out the door.

    Clueless clocky strikes again.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:40:12
    On 18/01/2026 5:00 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 18/1/2026 5:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:07 pm, Clocky wrote:


    "retirement".

    They probably pushed the dead wood out the door.

    Presumably now that you've had your laugh, you'll be giving us the
    name of the companies you've worked for. So we can all laugh about
    your vocational adventures.

    Shit, I can almost here the sound of you running away already :)

    The number of companies you've worked for would be a very short list.


    Completely predictable.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:43:14
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an
    example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS
    thing or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I challenged
    you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone can
    program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and upload it.
    arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit
    you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program an
    Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be sooper
    speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or some bullshit
    like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks.
    But when you were asked to provide some proof of your superior
    programming abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of course,
    as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is JD
    Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the crunch you
    run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it, but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:44:14
    On 17/01/2026 9:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:26 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:21 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an
    example when asked.

    That's not a serious test. The dumbest fraud could cut'n'paste
    endless code from any of a squillion sites.

    OK then alvo, C code for an RPI 2350 to interface with a Ublox GPS
    module, calculate trip time, trip distance, average speed, and
    display the results on a Nextion display along with current speed,
    current time, current pDOP, lat and long. Split the task between the
    2 CPUs in a logical manner, use interrupts to simplify the code.

    Off you go, you should be able to do it in 520 lines or less
    including comments.

    Why? I was pointing out the uselessness of asking someone to do code
    over the net.

    I'm sure that you'll find exactly what you need in one of the
    squillion sit
    Possibly, but it'd probably be faster to get one of those one off El
    Cheapo online contractors to do it.

    Where is the fun and satisfaction in that? Presumably, you have never
    built something just for the hell of it.

    It's even better when other people demand the product you designed and
    built for yourself and you end up making a profit from it :-)

    Your point is?





    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:45:50
    On 17/01/2026 9:38 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:21 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an
    example when asked.

    That's not a serious test. The dumbest fraud could cut'n'paste
    endless code from any of a squillion sites.

    OK then alvo, C code for an RPI 2350 to interface with a Ublox GPS
    module, calculate trip time, trip distance, average speed, and
    display the results on a Nextion display along with current speed,
    current time, current pDOP, lat and long. Split the task between the
    2 CPUs in a logical manner, use interrupts to simplify the code.

    Off you go, you should be able to do it in 520 lines or less
    including comments.

    Why? I was pointing out the uselessness of asking someone to do code
    over the net.

    I'm sure that you'll find exactly what you need in one of the
    squillion sit
    Possibly, but it'd probably be faster to get one of those one off El
    Cheapo online contractors to do it.

    Where is the fun and satisfaction in that?

    You've missed the point.

    Presumably, you have never built something just for the hell of it.

    Don't tell me. You built the Concorde for fun.

    Well alvo, you're always full of shit, but you have exceeded yourself there.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:47:37
    On 18/01/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:10 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:03 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:58 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 11:23 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified
    fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Yada tada yada same shit different day.


    Fact. Endless firmware and software updates prove how useless
    programmers are. Not surprising when they have mushbrains like
    you doing the programming.

    On 3/01/2026 9:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:



    <snip stuff that I have no answer for>

    A great impression of Usain Bolt.

    Just one example of endless cases of "Software engineer" and
    "programmer" gross incompetence;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WiQAOmESH0

    So a niche car manufacturer hired a (probably cheap) bunch of
    incompetent programmers

    Assumption and there is no evidence that you were competent.

    Neither is there any evidence of your competence.



    Of course there is.

    No wonder when even illogical mushbrains like you get a title of
    "programmer" or "software engineer" assuming you weren't lying
    about that too.

    You're the liar boy.

    That's your worthless opinion, I brought the evidence proving *you*
    are a liar.

    No you didn't your "Evidence" was just a load of crap.


    So you admit your own words were "just a load of crap".

    We agree on that.

    Pathetic, kindergarten logic, you must have cheated on your exams to get
    a mechanics licence.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 18:48:43
    On 18/1/2026 6:30 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 10:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 10:50 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is >>>>>>>>>> invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't >>>>>>>> be able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always
    come up short on. It's either never provided or is totally
    irrelevant to the claims made. I give you a photo of white cable >>>>>>> ties as *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren >>>>>>> is 100% irrelevant to the motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members,
    you included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the
    train accident.

    Not so.

    Indeed not so. I provided ample proof - verifiable too, of my status
    as a mechanic and a teacher, I offered up reg numbers of my
    qualifications,

    You posted a number that may or may not be that of a mechanic's licence.

    It was verified by 4 or 5 other persons as being on my certificate.
    Including Fred. Clocky's number is also public and has been verified on
    the WA website. I have no idea where my number could be publicly
    verified since I have never felt the need to do so - after all, I am in possession of the original documents.

    and when I countermanded Darren's technical lies, I offered up heaps
    of links to reputable sources that backed up my technical thoughts -
    like the recent one on bearing crush. I even gave a *logic flow* of my
    thought processes as I diagnosed what caused that valve head to drop
    off and wreck an engine Darren worked on. FFS, Daryl even provided a
    link that showed Darren was a liar - the hours, and years, AME
    apprentices attend TAFE. That was funny! That led to further
    enlightenment about AME apprenticeship entry levels - year 10. Darren
    couldn't have qualified for that role even if he had graduated from
    year 9.

    A lot of opinions, but not hard proof.

    Well, I posted lots of links verifying my claims, especially those on automotive technical points - just like I did a few days back. Darren
    can argue those all he likes but the infor comes from *bearing
    manufacturers like Vandervell, Mahle, et al. Daryl posted a govt
    document from the Vic archives that clearly *stated* that AME
    apprentices study for 1280 hours over 4 years, not 3 as Darren attempted
    to claim. That's because the AME apprenticeship is at *Technician level*
    and, as such, has an entry level verified as year 10 passes, not year 9.
    That same document Daryl linked to mentioned the law changes in 1992,
    those same laws that prevented apprentices doing 3 apprenticeships back
    to back.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 18:49:17
    On 18/1/2026 6:30 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 10:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is >>>>>>>>> invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't >>>>>>> be able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come >>>>>> up short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant
    to the claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as
    *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100% >>>>>> irrelevant to the motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members,
    you included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the
    train accident.

    And what verifiable proof of any of his big claims has the Fraudster
    ever supplied Richo?


    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    --
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    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 17:50:35
    On 15/01/2026 5:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an
    independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- >>>>>>>>> is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool,
    like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice
    as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per usual
    - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he sure
    likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain has
    obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a small >>>> group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees in the >>>> subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who people
    come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very good,
    others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were totally
    unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others were as good
    as one man short.

    Sooo, if this job was so "brain-frying" how could "totally unqualified" people do it?

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone
    with no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper at
    the end.

    What a coincidence! *All* the remaining DATEs chant this mantra
    regularly. Can't imagine why...

    So you can't imagine the truth, yearh, I can believe that.


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 18:53:58
    On 18/1/2026 6:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:10 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:03 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:58 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 11:23 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Yada tada yada same shit different day.


    Fact. Endless firmware and software updates prove how useless >>>>>>>> programmers are. Not surprising when they have mushbrains like >>>>>>>> you doing the programming.

    On 3/01/2026 9:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:



    <snip stuff that I have no answer for>

    A great impression of Usain Bolt.

    Just one example of endless cases of "Software engineer" and
    "programmer" gross incompetence;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WiQAOmESH0

    So a niche car manufacturer hired a (probably cheap) bunch of
    incompetent programmers

    Assumption and there is no evidence that you were competent.

    Neither is there any evidence of your competence.



    Of course there is.

    No wonder when even illogical mushbrains like you get a title of
    "programmer" or "software engineer" assuming you weren't lying
    about that too.

    You're the liar boy.

    That's your worthless opinion, I brought the evidence proving *you*
    are a liar.

    No you didn't your "Evidence" was just a load of crap.


    So you admit your own words were "just a load of crap".

    We agree on that.

    Pathetic, kindergarten logic, you must have cheated on your exams to get
    a mechanics licence.

    You haven't a clue about trade licencing, have you?

    The test of competency was the successful completion of an apprenticeship.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 19:34:25
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 5:59 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 2:24 pm, jonz wrote:
    On 15-Jan-26 2:47 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 10:16 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m-car- is- >>>>>>>>>> coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified fool, >>>>>>> like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". What
    was the actual claim?

    Yep, and he overdosed on ego in a thread claiming he got paid twice >>>>> as much as others because he was so good yet not qualified as he
    denigrated people with real qualifications in the group as per
    usual - before getting smacked down. For such an underachiever he
    sure likes to boast.

    But if his claim is true and he was ever a programmer his brain has >>>>> obviously turned to mush since.

    03/03/2014 in thread "LPG price?" Keithr wrote;

    "Definitely he couldn't have done it today, but then I work in a small >>>>> group of software developers all of whom except me have degrees in the >>>>> subject including one halfway through his masters. Guess who people >>>>> come
    to for advice and the really tricky jobs?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙The only *real* qualification is *ABILITY*.

    ˙˙˙˙˙ Some can only *Talk the talk* *(copy wally, Et-Al)

    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Those that *Walk the walk* just get on with it!.>

    I've worked with all sorts, some were highly qualified and very good,
    others despite their qualificatios were useless, there were totally
    unqualified people who did an excellent job, while others were as
    good as one man short.

    Sooo, if this job was so "brain-frying" how could "totally
    unqualified" people do it?

    Sometimes learning the hard way beats being spoon fed from someone
    with no recent practical experience and getting a piece of paper at
    the end.

    What a coincidence! *All* the remaining DATEs chant this mantra
    regularly. Can't imagine why...

    So you can't imagine the truth, yearh, I can believe that.

    That says more about your belief system than anything else Ritcho. Not
    that there's anything new to add. That same belief system can't
    recognise the truth that so many of Fraudster's claims are lies.


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 19:49:47
    Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with the
    running shoes and away you went!

    Just like you did when you threatened to call the local tyre dealer here
    and get the "real story". You shit yourself and went whisper quiet when
    I gave you the number and told you who to ask for :)

    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an imaginary
    BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street party elsewhere
    that you presumably didn't get an invite to you deceitful blowhard :-)

    ROTFL :)

    You live 4 thousand fucking km's away you ignoramus. You have absolutely
    no idea what you're talking about :)

    4,000km? Pfft. That's nothing compared to the distance you are from reality.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 20:01:28
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 10:59 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 4:06 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 am, alvey wrote:


    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are
    you sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    You seem you have some sort of hangup about my DNA, at least is
    carries on to a greater or lesser extent in 21 descendants.

    21 isn't a lot. Did the Sperm Bank take you off the donor list after
    some negative feedback from the parents?


    He's had a few cumbacks?

    Oh alvey what a wonderful putdown, you are a genius lick lick.

    Well one things for certain... English is one language that you're crap
    at...




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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 20:18:57
    Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:07 pm, Clocky wrote:


    "retirement".

    They probably pushed the dead wood out the door.

    Presumably now that you've had your laugh, you'll be giving us the name
    of the companies you've worked for. So we can all laugh about your vocational adventures.

    Shit, I can almost here the sound of you running away already :)

    Said the King of the Killfilers. Buffoon.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 20:28:31
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 6:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- car-
    is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that >>>>>>> was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after what
    I roughly calculate was your retirement.

    The next time that you prove anything, I may decide to show proof or not.

    Makes no sense.

    In the time that I worked there the shares went from $15 to $100, after splitting 3 times, then dropped to $5 in the tech wreck of 2000, finally climbing back up to $45 before Dell took over. They were a nice little earner.

    No proof, no interest.


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 01:08:02
    On 18/01/2026 6:01 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 10:59 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 4:06 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 am, alvey wrote:


    *Another* Fraudsterism. Incorrect use of a collective pronoun. Are >>>>>> you sure that you don't share some DNA with Buffo?

    You seem you have some sort of hangup about my DNA, at least is
    carries on to a greater or lesser extent in 21 descendants.

    21 isn't a lot. Did the Sperm Bank take you off the donor list after
    some negative feedback from the parents?


    He's had a few cumbacks?

    Oh alvey what a wonderful putdown, you are a genius lick lick.

    Well one things for certain... English is one language that you're crap at...


    Didn't speak a single word when he was 9 either. At least I had a
    reason, he only his delayed development to blame.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 01:11:30
    On 18/01/2026 3:30 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 10:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is >>>>>>>>> invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't >>>>>>> be able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always come >>>>>> up short on. It's either never provided or is totally irrelevant
    to the claims made. I give you a photo of white cable ties as
    *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren is 100% >>>>>> irrelevant to the motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members,
    you included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the
    train accident.

    And what verifiable proof of any of his big claims has the Fraudster
    ever supplied Richo?


    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    It's a valid question you keep running away from and the primary reason
    you lack any kind of credibility.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 01:14:53
    On 18/01/2026 2:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with the
    running shoes and away you went!

    Just like you did when you threatened to call the local tyre dealer here
    and get the "real story". You shit yourself and went whisper quiet when
    I gave you the number and told you who to ask for :)


    It was pointless making that call when blind Freddy could see that the
    tyre was completely fucked as was clearly evidenced by the photo.

    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an imaginary
    BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street party elsewhere
    that you presumably didn't get an invite to you deceitful blowhard :-)

    ROTFL :)

    You live 4 thousand fucking km's away you ignoramus. You have absolutely
    no idea what you're talking about :)


    You revealed it yourself you fucking clown.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 01:18:59
    On 18/01/2026 2:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:07 pm, Clocky wrote:


    "retirement".

    They probably pushed the dead wood out the door.

    Presumably now that you've had your laugh, you'll be giving us the name
    of the companies you've worked for. So we can all laugh about your vocational adventures.

    Shit, I can almost here the sound of you running away already :)





    Says the bloke who "worked" from under his mum's patio, had a spell
    cleaning cars and then "retired" to a shed out in the boonies
    fabricating bullshit.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 01:21:21
    On 18/01/2026 3:37 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 6:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- car-
    is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that >>>>>>> was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after what
    I roughly calculate was your retirement.

    The next time that you prove anything, I may decide to show proof or not.

    In the time that I worked there the shares went from $15 to $100, after splitting 3 times, then dropped to $5 in the tech wreck of 2000, finally climbing back up to $45 before Dell took over. They were a nice little earner.


    Yep, those are words.

    The problem with you having no integrity is that they are completely meaningless.



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    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 01:24:32
    On 18/01/2026 3:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 11:07 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 4:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us. >>>>>>>>>
    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that >>>>>>>> was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after what
    I roughly calculate was your retirement.



    "retirement".

    They probably pushed the dead wood out the door.

    Clueless clocky strikes again.

    Nope, most likely that I hit the nail on the head.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 01:26:27
    On 18/01/2026 3:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:26 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:00 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:21 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- car-
    is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us.

    What language?

    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an
    example when asked.

    That's not a serious test. The dumbest fraud could cut'n'paste
    endless code from any of a squillion sites.

    OK then alvo, C code for an RPI 2350 to interface with a Ublox GPS
    module, calculate trip time, trip distance, average speed, and
    display the results on a Nextion display along with current speed,
    current time, current pDOP, lat and long. Split the task between
    the 2 CPUs in a logical manner, use interrupts to simplify the code. >>>>>
    Off you go, you should be able to do it in 520 lines or less
    including comments.

    Why? I was pointing out the uselessness of asking someone to do code
    over the net.

    I'm sure that you'll find exactly what you need in one of the
    squillion sit
    Possibly, but it'd probably be faster to get one of those one off El
    Cheapo online contractors to do it.

    Where is the fun and satisfaction in that? Presumably, you have never
    built something just for the hell of it.

    It's even better when other people demand the product you designed and
    built for yourself and you end up making a profit from it :-)

    Your point is?

    Obvious.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 01:33:46
    On 18/01/2026 3:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:35 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:10 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:03 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:58 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 1:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 11:23 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric-m- >>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Yada tada yada same shit different day.


    Fact. Endless firmware and software updates prove how useless >>>>>>>> programmers are. Not surprising when they have mushbrains like >>>>>>>> you doing the programming.

    On 3/01/2026 9:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:



    <snip stuff that I have no answer for>

    A great impression of Usain Bolt.

    Just one example of endless cases of "Software engineer" and
    "programmer" gross incompetence;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WiQAOmESH0

    So a niche car manufacturer hired a (probably cheap) bunch of
    incompetent programmers

    Assumption and there is no evidence that you were competent.

    Neither is there any evidence of your competence.



    Of course there is.

    No wonder when even illogical mushbrains like you get a title of
    "programmer" or "software engineer" assuming you weren't lying
    about that too.

    You're the liar boy.

    That's your worthless opinion, I brought the evidence proving *you*
    are a liar.

    No you didn't your "Evidence" was just a load of crap.


    So you admit your own words were "just a load of crap".

    We agree on that.

    Pathetic, kindergarten logic, you must have cheated on your exams to get
    a mechanics licence.

    Nope, another fail on your part Richo.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 01:40:53
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us. >>>>>>>>>
    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an
    example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS
    thing or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I challenged
    you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone can
    program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and upload
    it. arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. Even that
    fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program an
    Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be sooper
    speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or some bullshit
    like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks.
    But when you were asked to provide some proof of your superior
    programming abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of course,
    as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even comprehend
    my response so instead you just keep lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is JD
    Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the crunch you
    run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but when
    asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you wrote from
    scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you are lying.







    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 08:04:18
    On 19/01/2026 4:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with
    the running shoes and away you went!

    Just like you did when you threatened to call the local tyre dealer
    here and get the "real story". You shit yourself and went whisper
    quiet when I gave you the number and told you who to ask for :)>
    It was pointless making that call when blind Freddy could see that the
    tyre was completely fucked as was clearly evidenced by the photo.

    No shit. That's exactly what I said in the original post. Still, it
    never stopped you from going off on a mindless rant and threatening to
    call the tyre dealer anyway.

    Just like the noise you made about Les's Lotus when you initially said
    "It would help if you used the correct lifting points, or is that as
    high as you went?" You had no problem with what you saw the pics, until
    your mental mate chimed in and turned a mole hill into a shitfest
    mountain at which point you then decided to run away with yourself.

    Which is something you *always* do. You *always* wait for someone *else*
    to start man argument before deciding to jump in and have a crack, and
    the only logical reason anyone can see for that is because you're
    insecure and too gutless to start off in case you make a cunt out of
    yourself.

    Which you often do :)

    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an imaginary
    BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street party
    elsewhere that you presumably didn't get an invite to you deceitful
    blowhard :-)

    ROTFL :)

    You live 4 thousand fucking km's away you ignoramus. You have
    absolutely no idea what you're talking about :)


    You revealed it yourself you fucking clown.

    Feel free to cite the post, Mr History revisionist.


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 08:00:33
    Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:14 am, Clocky wrote:


    Which is something you *always* do. You *always* wait for someone *else*
    to start man argument before deciding to jump in and have a crack, and
    the only logical reason anyone can see for that is because you're
    insecure and too gutless to start off in case you make a cunt out of yourself.

    Right. So he's "insecure", but you're the one incorrectly using, for the millionth time, a collective pronoun. Well played Buffo.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 09:38:02
    On 19/01/2026 8:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:14 am, Clocky wrote:


    Which is something you *always* do. You *always* wait for someone
    *else* to start man argument before deciding to jump in and have a
    crack, and the only logical reason anyone can see for that is because
    you're insecure and too gutless to start off in case you make a cunt
    out of yourself.

    Right. So he's "insecure", but you're the one incorrectly using, for the millionth time, a collective pronoun. Well played Buffo.

    YAGN

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 09:41:25
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 18/1/2026 6:30 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 10:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is >>>>>>>>>> invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't >>>>>>>> be able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always
    come up short on. It's either never provided or is totally
    irrelevant to the claims made. I give you a photo of white cable >>>>>>> ties as *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren >>>>>>> is 100% irrelevant to the motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members,
    you included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the
    train accident.

    And what verifiable proof of any of his big claims has the Fraudster
    ever supplied Richo?


    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything else
    and you're totally out of your depth.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 09:42:53
    On 19/01/2026 3:24 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 11:07 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 4:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the company >>>>>>>>>>> called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after
    what I roughly calculate was your retirement.



    "retirement".

    They probably pushed the dead wood out the door.

    Clueless clocky strikes again.

    Nope, most likely that I hit the nail on the head.

    Clueless clocky strikes again and again

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 09:44:37
    On 19/01/2026 3:21 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:37 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 6:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a professional >>>>>>>>>> programmer or "Software engineer" as the company called us. >>>>>>>>>
    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else that >>>>>>>> was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after what
    I roughly calculate was your retirement.

    The next time that you prove anything, I may decide to show proof or not.

    In the time that I worked there the shares went from $15 to $100,
    after splitting 3 times, then dropped to $5 in the tech wreck of 2000,
    finally climbing back up to $45 before Dell took over. They were a
    nice little earner.


    Yep, those are words.

    The problem with you having no integrity is that they are completely meaningless.

    Mr Liar and Hypocrite, claiming truth an integrity again, what a laugh

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 09:46:23
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the company >>>>>>>>>>> called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an >>>>>>>>> example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS >>>>>>> thing or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I challenged >>>>>> you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone can >>>>> program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and upload
    it. arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. Even that
    fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program an
    Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be sooper >>>>> speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or some bullshit >>>>> like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks.
    But when you were asked to provide some proof of your superior
    programming abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of
    course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even comprehend
    my response so instead you just keep lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is JD
    Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the crunch you
    run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the distance
    demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but when
    asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you wrote from
    scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" includes
    you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 11:29:14
    On 19/1/2026 8:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with
    the running shoes and away you went!

    Just like you did when you threatened to call the local tyre dealer
    here and get the "real story". You shit yourself and went whisper
    quiet when I gave you the number and told you who to ask for :)>
    It was pointless making that call when blind Freddy could see that the
    tyre was completely fucked as was clearly evidenced by the photo.

    No shit. That's exactly what I said in the original post. Still, it
    never stopped you from going off on a mindless rant and threatening to
    call the tyre dealer anyway.

    Just like the noise you made about Les's Lotus when you initially said
    "It would help if you used the correct lifting points, or is that as

    Well, you *were* using the incorrect lifting points. In fact, you had no
    clue what those points were. You identified them as the rear hoist
    points and complained they were adjacent the seat backs. Had you a clue,
    and any motor mechanic apprentice training, you would not have made that mistake since apprentices are trained in identifying CofG and lifting
    points in the process of raising vehicles. You obviously never even saw
    first first year apprentice training, unsurprising since you've never
    done any apprenticeship ever. The worst though, you actually had to
    elevate the vehicle to find out it was unsafe. I could have told you
    that just from the car layout and where you were jacking - you had it
    wrong, wrong, wrong from the get go.

    high as you went?" You had no problem with what you saw the pics, until
    your mental mate chimed in and turned a mole hill into a shitfest
    mountain at which point you then decided to run away with yourself.

    You created the shitfest Darren, you and no one else.

    Which is something you *always* do. You *always* wait for someone *else*
    to start man argument before deciding to jump in and have a crack, and
    the only logical reason anyone can see for that is because you're
    insecure and too gutless to start off in case you make a cunt out of yourself.

    Which you often do :)

    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an
    imaginary BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street
    party elsewhere that you presumably didn't get an invite to you
    deceitful blowhard :-)

    ROTFL :)

    You live 4 thousand fucking km's away you ignoramus. You have
    absolutely no idea what you're talking about :)


    You revealed it yourself you fucking clown.

    Feel free to cite the post, Mr History revisionist.




    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 08:39:47
    On 19/01/2026 5:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with
    the running shoes and away you went!

    Just like you did when you threatened to call the local tyre dealer
    here and get the "real story". You shit yourself and went whisper
    quiet when I gave you the number and told you who to ask for :)>
    It was pointless making that call when blind Freddy could see that the
    tyre was completely fucked as was clearly evidenced by the photo.

    No shit. That's exactly what I said in the original post. Still, it
    never stopped you from going off on a mindless rant and threatening to
    call the tyre dealer anyway.

    Just like the noise you made about Les's Lotus when you initially said
    "It would help if you used the correct lifting points, or is that as
    high as you went?" You had no problem with what you saw the pics

    So saying "It would help if you used the correct lifting points" is
    saying there is no problem?

    Looks like you didn't speak English at age 9 either.

    <snip irrelevant rant>


    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an
    imaginary BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street
    party elsewhere that you presumably didn't get an invite to you
    deceitful blowhard :-)

    ROTFL :)

    You live 4 thousand fucking km's away you ignoramus. You have
    absolutely no idea what you're talking about :)


    You revealed it yourself you fucking clown.

    Feel free to cite the post, Mr History revisionist.



    Why? So you can deny your own posts again before launching into yet
    another barrage of lies, deflection and personal attacks?











    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 08:42:25
    On 19/01/2026 7:38 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 8:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:14 am, Clocky wrote:


    Which is something you *always* do. You *always* wait for someone
    *else* to start man argument before deciding to jump in and have a
    crack, and the only logical reason anyone can see for that is because
    you're insecure and too gutless to start off in case you make a cunt
    out of yourself.

    Right. So he's "insecure", but you're the one incorrectly using, for
    the millionth time, a collective pronoun. Well played Buffo.

    YAGN

    And Richo enters the arena yet again ready to defend his cult leader - swinging his handbag as he goes...

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 08:50:26
    On 19/01/2026 8:29 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 19/1/2026 8:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with
    the running shoes and away you went!

    Just like you did when you threatened to call the local tyre dealer
    here and get the "real story". You shit yourself and went whisper
    quiet when I gave you the number and told you who to ask for :)>
    It was pointless making that call when blind Freddy could see that
    the tyre was completely fucked as was clearly evidenced by the photo.

    No shit. That's exactly what I said in the original post. Still, it
    never stopped you from going off on a mindless rant and threatening to
    call the tyre dealer anyway.

    Just like the noise you made about Les's Lotus when you initially said
    "It would help if you used the correct lifting points, or is that as

    Well, you *were* using the incorrect lifting points. In fact, you had no clue what those points were. You identified them as the rear hoist
    points and complained they were adjacent the seat backs. Had you a clue,
    and any motor mechanic apprentice training, you would not have made that mistake since apprentices are trained in identifying CofG and lifting
    points in the process of raising vehicles. You obviously never even saw first first year apprentice training, unsurprising since you've never
    done any apprenticeship ever. The worst though, you actually had to
    elevate the vehicle to find out it was unsafe. I could have told you
    that just from the car layout and where you were jacking - you had it
    wrong, wrong, wrong from the get go.

    high as you went?" You had no problem with what you saw the pics,
    until your mental mate chimed in and turned a mole hill into a
    shitfest mountain at which point you then decided to run away with
    yourself.

    You created the shitfest Darren, you and no one else.

    No, according to him - "It would help if you used the correct lifting
    points" means there was no problem observed.

    Make it make sense.




    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 09:22:24
    On 18/01/2026 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:48 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:13 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- m- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the company >>>>>>>>>>> called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    I never met him there, but it was a big Fortune 500 company.

    Don't undersell yourself Richo, I'm sure in your mind Makebelieve Inc.
    is a huuuuuuge fortune 500 company.

    I posted the name of the company, obviously you're too lazy or
    incompetent to notice.

    Proves absolutely nothing.

    Makebelieve Inc. is far more probably based on your posting history and struggles with logic and comprehension.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 12:47:02
    On 19-Jan-26 12:22 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:48 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:13 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    I never met him there, but it was a big Fortune 500 company.

    Don't undersell yourself Richo, I'm sure in your mind Makebelieve
    Inc. is a huuuuuuge fortune 500 company.

    I posted the name of the company, obviously you're too lazy or
    incompetent to notice.

    Proves absolutely nothing.

    Makebelieve Inc. is far more probably based on your posting history and struggles with logic and comprehension.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Methinks thou *projecteth* too much!. You fuckin'gutless unfulfilled Dickhead!.. Just FOAD!. TIA



    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 10:16:06
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is-
    coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an >>>>>>>>>> example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS >>>>>>>> thing or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer. >>>>>>>>
    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I challenged >>>>>>> you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone
    can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and
    upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. Even >>>>>> that fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program an >>>>>> Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be
    sooper speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or some >>>>>> bullshit like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated
    egotistical wanks. But when you were asked to provide some proof
    of your superior programming abilities what did keith do? Well he >>>>>> ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even
    comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is JD
    Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the crunch
    you run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the distance
    demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but when
    asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you wrote from
    scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" includes
    you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed
    through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 12:08:12
    On 19/01/2026 7:44 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:21 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:37 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 6:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first-electric- m- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per-wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the company >>>>>>>>>>> called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing.

    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after
    what I roughly calculate was your retirement.

    The next time that you prove anything, I may decide to show proof or
    not.

    In the time that I worked there the shares went from $15 to $100,
    after splitting 3 times, then dropped to $5 in the tech wreck of
    2000, finally climbing back up to $45 before Dell took over. They
    were a nice little earner.


    Yep, those are words.

    The problem with you having no integrity is that they are completely
    meaningless.

    Mr Liar and Hypocrite, claiming truth an integrity again, what a laugh

    Yes, that's exactly who and what you are.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 12:12:42
    On 18/01/2026 3:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 4:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 3:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is-
    coming-in-2027-with-one-motor-per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    See my reply to alvo and apologise. I know that you won't because
    you and your fellow cultist never admit that you were wrong.

    Proof?? There's a lack of it on your side of things.

    Proof of what?

    Intelligence, integrity and honesty for starters.


    Gawd you're funny, how about the lies that you make up about people?

    See signatures. In your own words you are the proven liar.
    Feel free to prove otherwise.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 16:48:48
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and
    unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an >>>>>>>>>>> example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some GPS >>>>>>>>> thing or something claiming that you were a "real" programmer. >>>>>>>>>
    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I
    challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone >>>>>>> can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and
    upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. Even >>>>>>> that fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program an >>>>>>> Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be
    sooper speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or some >>>>>>> bullshit like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated
    egotistical wanks. But when you were asked to provide some proof >>>>>>> of your superior programming abilities what did keith do? Well he >>>>>>> ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even
    comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is JD >>>>> Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the crunch
    you run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the distance
    demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but when
    asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you wrote from
    scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you are
    lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" includes
    you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" includes
    you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.

    Twist as much as you like, that is what you said.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 16:50:15
    On 19/01/2026 2:08 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:44 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:21 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:37 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 6:22 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation

    It's not even pedantic to state that your link doesn't prove a thing. >>>>>
    I did notice though that the companies worth really boomed after
    what I roughly calculate was your retirement.

    The next time that you prove anything, I may decide to show proof or
    not.

    In the time that I worked there the shares went from $15 to $100,
    after splitting 3 times, then dropped to $5 in the tech wreck of
    2000, finally climbing back up to $45 before Dell took over. They
    were a nice little earner.


    Yep, those are words.

    The problem with you having no integrity is that they are completely
    meaningless.

    Mr Liar and Hypocrite, claiming truth an integrity again, what a laugh

    Yes, that's exactly who and what you are.

    "No you", same shit different day, you are pathetic.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 16:56:50
    On 19/01/2026 11:22 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:48 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:13 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it fucks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and unqualified >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fool, like you, can call themselves a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>> What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    I never met him there, but it was a big Fortune 500 company.

    Don't undersell yourself Richo, I'm sure in your mind Makebelieve
    Inc. is a huuuuuuge fortune 500 company.

    I posted the name of the company, obviously you're too lazy or
    incompetent to notice.

    Proves absolutely nothing.

    Makebelieve Inc. is far more probably based on your posting history and struggles with logic and comprehension.

    I worked for EMC for 18 years, 15 of which as a programmer for which I
    was very well rewarded, I retired at 74 on my own terms. I lived in the
    US for over 5 years while working for them.

    Deal with it. It is quite obvious that you are insanely jealous of
    anybody who has made more of their life than you have (not a
    particularly difficult task).

    The subject is now closed, rant as muchas you like, I don't give a shit.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 16:57:37
    On 19/01/2026 2:12 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 4:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 3:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and
    unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    See my reply to alvo and apologise. I know that you won't because >>>>>> you and your fellow cultist never admit that you were wrong.

    Proof?? There's a lack of it on your side of things.

    Proof of what?

    Intelligence, integrity and honesty for starters.


    Gawd you're funny, how about the lies that you make up about people?

    See signatures. In your own words you are the proven liar.
    Feel free to prove otherwise.


    Gawd you're funny, how about the lies that you make up about people?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 17:01:44
    On 19/01/2026 3:11 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:30 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 10:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 7:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:30 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 8:49 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    Flinging accusations is your hobby not mine.

    My flinging is done with supporting evidence Richo. Yours is >>>>>>>>>> invariably based solely on your opinion.

    "Evidence" ROTFL

    You should be careful with your ROTFLs Ritcho. One day you won't >>>>>>>> be able to get up...

    Yeah, "evidence", the one primary thing the Noddy cult always
    come up short on. It's either never provided or is totally
    irrelevant to the claims made. I give you a photo of white cable >>>>>>> ties as *evidence* of possession of *coloured* cable ties. Darren >>>>>>> is 100% irrelevant to the motor trade and always has been.

    And what evidence have you provided over the years?

    Quite a lot more than any of the Noddy cult of dishonesty members,
    you included, have.

    The only verifiable proof that he has ever provided was about the
    train accident.

    And what verifiable proof of any of his big claims has the Fraudster
    ever supplied Richo?


    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    It's a valid question you keep running away from and the primary reason
    you lack any kind of credibility.

    The valid answer is that you, xeno, and avlo are the only people on
    earth who even give a shit. The entire population of the world less you
    3 couldn't care less.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 17:03:18
    On 19/01/2026 10:39 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with
    the running shoes and away you went!

    Just like you did when you threatened to call the local tyre dealer
    here and get the "real story". You shit yourself and went whisper
    quiet when I gave you the number and told you who to ask for :)>
    It was pointless making that call when blind Freddy could see that
    the tyre was completely fucked as was clearly evidenced by the photo.

    No shit. That's exactly what I said in the original post. Still, it
    never stopped you from going off on a mindless rant and threatening to
    call the tyre dealer anyway.

    Just like the noise you made about Les's Lotus when you initially said
    "It would help if you used the correct lifting points, or is that as
    high as you went?" You had no problem with what you saw the pics

    So saying "It would help if you used the correct lifting points" is
    saying there is no problem?

    Looks like you didn't speak English at age 9 either.

    <snip irrelevant rant>


    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an
    imaginary BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street
    party elsewhere that you presumably didn't get an invite to you
    deceitful blowhard :-)

    ROTFL :)

    You live 4 thousand fucking km's away you ignoramus. You have
    absolutely no idea what you're talking about :)


    You revealed it yourself you fucking clown.

    Feel free to cite the post, Mr History revisionist.



    Why? So you can deny your own posts again before launching into yet
    another barrage of lies, deflection and personal attacks?

    Exit clocky chased by a bear.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 15:13:53
    On 19/01/2026 2:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:12 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 4:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 3:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    See my reply to alvo and apologise. I know that you won't because >>>>>>> you and your fellow cultist never admit that you were wrong.

    Proof?? There's a lack of it on your side of things.

    Proof of what?

    Intelligence, integrity and honesty for starters.


    Gawd you're funny, how about the lies that you make up about people?

    See signatures. In your own words you are the proven liar.
    Feel free to prove otherwise.


    Gawd

    No proof you're not a liar then?



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 15:17:20
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an >>>>>>>>>>>> example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some >>>>>>>>>> GPS thing or something claiming that you were a "real"
    programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I
    challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone >>>>>>>> can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and >>>>>>>> upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing.
    Even that fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program >>>>>>>> an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be >>>>>>>> sooper speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or
    some bullshit like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated >>>>>>>> egotistical wanks. But when you were asked to provide some proof >>>>>>>> of your superior programming abilities what did keith do? Well >>>>>>>> he ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even
    comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading. >>>>>>
    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is
    JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the
    crunch you run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the distance
    demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but when
    asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you wrote from
    scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you are
    lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" includes
    you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed
    through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed
    through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 15:53:43
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:22 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:48 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:13 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and
    unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    I never met him there, but it was a big Fortune 500 company.

    Don't undersell yourself Richo, I'm sure in your mind Makebelieve
    Inc. is a huuuuuuge fortune 500 company.

    I posted the name of the company, obviously you're too lazy or
    incompetent to notice.

    Proves absolutely nothing.

    Makebelieve Inc. is far more probably based on your posting history
    and struggles with logic and comprehension.

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    Remember?



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 19:36:34
    On 19-Jan-26 5:48 PM, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an >>>>>>>>>>>> example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some >>>>>>>>>> GPS thing or something claiming that you were a "real"
    programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I
    challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone >>>>>>>> can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and >>>>>>>> upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing.
    Even that fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program >>>>>>>> an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be >>>>>>>> sooper speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or
    some bullshit like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated >>>>>>>> egotistical wanks. But when you were asked to provide some proof >>>>>>>> of your superior programming abilities what did keith do? Well >>>>>>>> he ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even
    comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading. >>>>>>
    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is
    JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the
    crunch you run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the distance
    demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but when
    asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you wrote from
    scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you are
    lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" includes
    you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed
    through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" includes
    you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.

    Twist as much as you like, that is what you said.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    He`s been *running away screaming* for all his worthless existence I`d
    reckon. Certainly thats *all* he does in here.. Much like xenokryp and
    alvira *ALL* their communication?? is a putdown and/or garbage..
    These oxygen thieves are *never* going to admit to anything they
    fucked up,or lied about.. Or give credit where credit is due.. You
    *know* your stuff, and it pisses them off Immensely..Thus, constant
    Verbal diarrhea. <SHRUG>


    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 19:51:49
    On 19-Jan-26 6:17 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an >>>>>>>>>>>>> example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some >>>>>>>>>>> GPS thing or something claiming that you were a "real"
    programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I
    challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone >>>>>>>>> can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and >>>>>>>>> upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. >>>>>>>>> Even that fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program >>>>>>>>> an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be >>>>>>>>> sooper speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or >>>>>>>>> some bullshit like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated >>>>>>>>> egotistical wanks. But when you were asked to provide some
    proof of your superior programming abilities what did keith do? >>>>>>>>> Well he ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even
    comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading. >>>>>>>
    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is >>>>>>> JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the
    crunch you run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the distance >>>>>> demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but
    when asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you wrote
    from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you are
    lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" includes
    you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed
    through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to >>> be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're >>> not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to >>> be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make >>> yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    Your er, advice,?? I`d doubt that very much. :):):)

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    "Physician heal thyself"....What a grandstanding non-compis fucktard
    you are..Worth a giggle occasionally but. <G>

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Now *theres* a serve of the *verbal Diarrhoea* I mentioned a post or two
    ago.. ;)
    So,
    There you go "fruitcake".



    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 19:56:51
    On 19-Jan-26 5:56 PM, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:22 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:48 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:13 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and
    unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    I never met him there, but it was a big Fortune 500 company.

    Don't undersell yourself Richo, I'm sure in your mind Makebelieve
    Inc. is a huuuuuuge fortune 500 company.

    I posted the name of the company, obviously you're too lazy or
    incompetent to notice.

    Proves absolutely nothing.

    Makebelieve Inc. is far more probably based on your posting history
    and struggles with logic and comprehension.

    I worked for EMC for 18 years, 15 of which as a programmer for which I
    was very well rewarded, I retired at 74 on my own terms. I lived in the
    US for over 5 years while working for them.

    Deal with it. It is quite obvious that you are insanely jealous of
    anybody who has made more of their life than you have (not a
    particularly difficult task).

    The subject is now closed, rant as muchas you like, I don't give a shit.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ONYA!. ;)


    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:01:24
    On 19-Jan-26 6:53 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:22 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:48 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:13 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    I never met him there, but it was a big Fortune 500 company.

    Don't undersell yourself Richo, I'm sure in your mind Makebelieve
    Inc. is a huuuuuuge fortune 500 company.

    I posted the name of the company, obviously you're too lazy or
    incompetent to notice.

    Proves absolutely nothing.

    Makebelieve Inc. is far more probably based on your posting history
    and struggles with logic and comprehension.

    I worked for

    So you claim.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    More *selective Snippage*.. The loser/Bullshitter approach. <SHRUG>

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    Remember?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Give it up, Yer done son!..<G>





    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:08:34
    On 19-Jan-26 3:12 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 4:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 3:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and
    unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    See my reply to alvo and apologise. I know that you won't because >>>>>> you and your fellow cultist never admit that you were wrong.

    Proof?? There's a lack of it on your side of things.

    Proof of what?

    Intelligence, integrity and honesty for starters.


    Gawd you're funny, how about the lies that you make up about people?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    She Sure does, but *runs away* when put to the test....Personal
    Experience!.

    See signatures. In your own words you are the proven liar.
    Feel free to prove otherwise.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Watch out for splinters down there ms *NO You*..





    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:13:04
    On 19-Jan-26 5:57 PM, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:12 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 4:36 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 17/1/2026 3:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 9:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 10:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?

    Pick any imaginary company, he will anyway.


    See my reply to alvo and apologise. I know that you won't because >>>>>>> you and your fellow cultist never admit that you were wrong.

    Proof?? There's a lack of it on your side of things.

    Proof of what?

    Intelligence, integrity and honesty for starters.


    Gawd you're funny, how about the lies that you make up about people?

    See signatures. In your own words you are the proven liar.
    Feel free to prove otherwise.


    Gawd you're funny, how about the lies that you make up about people?

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:38:47
    On 19/01/2026 11:50 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 8:29 am, Xeno wrote:

    You created the shitfest Darren, you and no one else.

    No, according to him -˙ "It would help if you used the correct lifting points" means there was no problem observed.

    Make it make sense.

    The "is that as high as you went?" comment suggested that you had no
    problem with what you saw given that the car was only an inch off the
    ground.

    Not that your approval was ever required.....



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:40:41
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything else
    and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all they
    want to do around here is talk about me day after day.

    I mean, I know I'm a pretty cool guy, but Jesus :)



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:41:26
    On 19/01/2026 6:01 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:11 am, Clocky wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    It's a valid question you keep running away from and the primary
    reason you lack any kind of credibility.

    The valid answer is that you, xeno, and avlo are the only people on
    earth who even give a shit. The entire population of the world less you
    3 couldn't care less.

    Exactly.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:43:58
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about yourself
    is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit of it.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you?




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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:45:01
    On 19/01/2026 4:18 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:46 pm, Noddy wrote:


    Presumably now that you've had your laugh, you'll be giving us the
    name of the companies you've worked for. So we can all laugh about
    your vocational adventures.

    Shit, I can almost here the sound of you running away already :)





    Says the bloke who "worked" from under his mum's patio, had a spell
    cleaning cars and then "retired" to a shed out in the boonies
    fabricating bullshit.

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.


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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:50:22
    On 19/1/2026 8:38 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:50 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 8:29 am, Xeno wrote:

    You created the shitfest Darren, you and no one else.

    No, according to him -˙ "It would help if you used the correct lifting
    points" means there was no problem observed.

    Make it make sense.

    The "is that as high as you went?" comment suggested that you had no
    problem with what you saw given that the car was only an inch off the ground.

    Clocky was merely wondering just how stupid you were. Your response
    confirmed you were truly stupid.

    Not that your approval was ever required.....





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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:51:35
    On 19/1/2026 8:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything
    else and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all they
    want to do around here is talk about me day after day.

    I mean, I know I'm a pretty cool guy, but Jesus :)

    Cool is definitely not how I would describe you! Delusional makes a good start.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:53:14
    On 19/1/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about yourself
    is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit of it.

    Except he has. YOU never have, you've just made claims you won't (can't)
    back!

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you?



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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:53:53
    On 19/1/2026 8:45 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:18 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:46 pm, Noddy wrote:


    Presumably now that you've had your laugh, you'll be giving us the
    name of the companies you've worked for. So we can all laugh about
    your vocational adventures.

    Shit, I can almost here the sound of you running away already :)





    Says the bloke who "worked" from under his mum's patio, had a spell
    cleaning cars and then "retired" to a shed out in the boonies
    fabricating bullshit.

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.


    You already have, in a round about way.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:22:02
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:39 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On with >>>>>> the running shoes and away you went!

    Just like you did when you threatened to call the local tyre dealer >>>>> here and get the "real story". You shit yourself and went whisper
    quiet when I gave you the number and told you who to ask for :)>
    It was pointless making that call when blind Freddy could see that
    the tyre was completely fucked as was clearly evidenced by the photo.

    No shit. That's exactly what I said in the original post. Still, it
    never stopped you from going off on a mindless rant and threatening
    to call the tyre dealer anyway.

    Just like the noise you made about Les's Lotus when you initially
    said "It would help if you used the correct lifting points, or is
    that as high as you went?" You had no problem with what you saw the pics

    So saying "It would help if you used the correct lifting points" is
    saying there is no problem?

    Looks like you didn't speak English at age 9 either.

    <snip irrelevant rant>


    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an
    imaginary BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street
    party elsewhere that you presumably didn't get an invite to you
    deceitful blowhard :-)

    ROTFL :)

    You live 4 thousand fucking km's away you ignoramus. You have
    absolutely no idea what you're talking about :)


    You revealed it yourself you fucking clown.

    Feel free to cite the post, Mr History revisionist.



    Why? So you can deny your own posts again before launching into yet
    another barrage of lies, deflection and personal attacks?

    Exit clocky chased by a bear.

    The pen of my aunt is in the garden...


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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:24:35
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as an >>>>>>>>>>>>> example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some >>>>>>>>>>> GPS thing or something claiming that you were a "real"
    programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I
    challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and anyone >>>>>>>>> can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if required and >>>>>>>>> upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That proves nothing. >>>>>>>>> Even that fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program >>>>>>>>> an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to be >>>>>>>>> sooper speshal programmer because you did it from scratch or >>>>>>>>> some bullshit like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated >>>>>>>>> egotistical wanks. But when you were asked to provide some
    proof of your superior programming abilities what did keith do? >>>>>>>>> Well he ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even
    comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading. >>>>>>>
    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is >>>>>>> JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the
    crunch you run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the distance >>>>>> demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but
    when asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you wrote
    from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you are
    lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" includes
    you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed
    through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to >>> be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're >>> not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to >>> be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make >>> yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you were put
    on the spot, you ran away screaming.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I won't
    be listening.


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:39:01
    Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:01 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:11 am, Clocky wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    It's a valid question you keep running away from and the primary
    reason you lack any kind of credibility.

    The valid answer is that you, xeno, and avlo are the only people on
    earth who even give a shit. The entire population of the world less
    you 3 couldn't care less.

    Exactly.

    Exactly wrong Buffo.
    If it's only Clock, Xeno and me who care then what are you and Ritcho
    doing here?

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 21:29:52
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:22 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:48 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:13 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 16/1/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an independent motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per-wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and
    unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a
    "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a
    professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?

    C, C++, Pascal (Delphi), SYMPL, Perl, C#, and anything else >>>>>>>>>>> that was relevant to the task.

    That's curious.

    Why? BTW, I forgot to mention Jscript, PHP and SQL

    And which company was this?





    Makebelieve Inc.

    Oh yeah! I suspect Darren also worked there!

    I never met him there, but it was a big Fortune 500 company.

    Don't undersell yourself Richo, I'm sure in your mind Makebelieve
    Inc. is a huuuuuuge fortune 500 company.

    I posted the name of the company, obviously you're too lazy or
    incompetent to notice.

    Proves absolutely nothing.

    Makebelieve Inc. is far more probably based on your posting history
    and struggles with logic and comprehension.

    I worked for EMC for 18 years, 15 of which as a programmer for which I
    was very well rewarded,

    Compared to who?

    I retired at 74 on my own terms. I lived in the
    US for over 5 years while working for them.

    Deal with it. It is quite obvious that you are insanely jealous of
    anybody who has made more of their life than you have (not a
    particularly difficult task).

    Another Fraudsterism!

    The subject is now closed, rant as muchas you like, I don't give a shit.

    aka Runawayyyyy




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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 21:35:32
    Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:18 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:46 pm, Noddy wrote:


    Presumably now that you've had your laugh, you'll be giving us the
    name of the companies you've worked for. So we can all laugh about
    your vocational adventures.

    Shit, I can almost here the sound of you running away already :)





    Says the bloke who "worked" from under his mum's patio, had a spell
    cleaning cars and then "retired" to a shed out in the boonies
    fabricating bullshit.

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.

    Show us how it's done Fraudster. We've been waiting soooo long.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 21:54:09
    keithr0 wrote:


    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I won't
    be listening.

    Well there's the trifecta completed...




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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 19:58:21
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about yourself
    is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit of it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you?


    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.



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    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:02:40
    On 19/01/2026 5:38 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:50 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 8:29 am, Xeno wrote:

    You created the shitfest Darren, you and no one else.

    No, according to him -˙ "It would help if you used the correct lifting
    points" means there was no problem observed.

    Make it make sense.

    The "is that as high as you went?" comment

    Is a question, stupid.

    suggested that you had no
    problem with what you saw given that the car was only an inch off the ground.


    "It would help if you used the correct lifting
    points" means there was a problem observed.

    You have some very serious comprehension issues son.

    Not that your approval was ever required.....





    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:06:48
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:18 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:46 pm, Noddy wrote:


    Presumably now that you've had your laugh, you'll be giving us the
    name of the companies you've worked for. So we can all laugh about
    your vocational adventures.

    Shit, I can almost here the sound of you running away already :)





    Says the bloke who "worked" from under his mum's patio, had a spell
    cleaning cars and then "retired" to a shed out in the boonies
    fabricating bullshit.

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    Until you do keith and I agree that you're a proven liar. See his quotes.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:13:07
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an independent motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is-
    coming-in-2027-with-one-motor- per- wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some >>>>>>>>>>>> GPS thing or something claiming that you were a "real" >>>>>>>>>>>> programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual.

    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I
    challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and
    anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if
    required and upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That >>>>>>>>>> proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can program >>>>>>>>>> an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that claimed to >>>>>>>>>> be sooper speshal programmer because you did it from scratch >>>>>>>>>> or some bullshit like that in one of your typical
    hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But when you were asked to >>>>>>>>>> provide some proof of your superior programming abilities what >>>>>>>>>> did keith do? Well he ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even
    comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading. >>>>>>>>
    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that is >>>>>>>> JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to the >>>>>>>> crunch you run away with your tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the
    distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but
    when asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you wrote >>>>>> from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you are >>>>>> lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody"
    includes you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away
    screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that
    claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple
    process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was
    rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult
    leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given >>>> that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question
    has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest.
    You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to
    make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited >>>> if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed
    through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you were put
    on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies and
    deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged to produce an example of your programming skills. End of story.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I won't
    be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 20:15:38
    On 19/01/2026 7:54 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:


    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I won't
    be listening.

    Well there's the trifecta completed...





    Classic keith, takes a massive dump and runs away.

    No wonder his integrity is below zero.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 23:59:13
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*, you stupid clog
    wearing imbecilic cunt. This is the bit that flies over your pig
    ignorant head high enough for the Blue Angels to perform their aerobatic routine in the gap.

    You carry on as if you're the sheriff of Nottingham who has some magical authority to make demands of people, when in reality you're a fucking
    noise making nobody in a pissy little irrelevant newsgroup who is *not* entitled to jack shit from anyone.

    This is very basic and you've been told many times before, but for some
    reason it just doesn't register with you. Perhaps it's due to the fact
    that you're so caught up in your own image of yourself that you can't
    tell night from day anymore, but the simple arithmetic here is this:

    You are free to believe or disbelieve whatever the fuck you like, but no
    one owes you any explanations. If you wish to believe something as
    untrue then fine, but if you think anyone is obligated to lift a fucking finger to satisfy you in any way then you are more ridiculously deluded
    than even I give you credit for, and trust me I think your level of
    delusion is off the fucking scale.

    You nothing to anyone around here, and as soon as you get a grip on
    reality and stop pretending that you're a member of some special badge
    wearing club the better off you'll be.




    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 23:09:40
    On 19/01/2026 5:53 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 19/1/2026 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying." >>>
    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about
    yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit of it.

    Except he has. YOU never have, you've just made claims you won't (can't) back!

    Yep, I've provided plenty of proof. He and the pommy dickhead just deny it.

    He's never provided any proof of his grandiose claims, ever.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 07:52:25
    On 20/01/2026 2:09 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:53 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Except he has. YOU never have, you've just made claims you won't
    (can't) back!

    Yep, I've provided plenty of proof. He and the pommy dickhead just deny it.

    Funny. Everyone must have blinked and missed it all at exactly the same
    time.

    He's never provided any proof of his grandiose claims, ever.

    There is nothing "grandoise" about any of my claims. That you choose to believe whatever I say or not is none of my business, and not someone I
    could care less about.

    You operate *way* above your pay grade if you think otherwise.





    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 09:16:46
    On 20/1/2026 7:52 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:09 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:53 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Except he has. YOU never have, you've just made claims you won't
    (can't) back!

    Yep, I've provided plenty of proof. He and the pommy dickhead just
    deny it.

    Funny. Everyone must have blinked and missed it all at exactly the same time.

    He's never provided any proof of his grandiose claims, ever.

    There is nothing "grandoise" about any of my claims. That you choose to

    Grandiose is a claim to be a tradie when you didn't even qualify.
    Grandiose is when you claim to have done 3 apprenticeships in a regime
    where only one was legally allowed. Do I need to go on? Grandiose claims
    it is then!

    believe whatever I say or not is none of my business, and not someone I could care less about.

    It is your business since now you are thought of as a liar and a
    buffoon. You continually respond so you do think it is your business
    whether we believe your bullshit.

    You operate *way* above your pay grade if you think otherwise.

    Your pay grade is in the negative numbers chump, you would have to pay
    someone to employ you.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 09:18:25
    On 19/1/2026 11:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*, you stupid clog

    Then you clearly do not understand the concept of responsibility.

    if you make a claim, in particular an affirmative assertion or one
    that challenges the status quo, the onus (burden of proof) is upon you
    to substantiate it if asked. This principle, rooted in logic and debate, dictates that the person asserting a proposition *must* provide
    sufficient evidence to support it, rather than requiring others to
    disprove it.

    The person making a claim (the proponent) bears the responsibility of providing evidence, often summarized by the Latin maxim onus probandi
    incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat ("the burden of proof lies with
    the one who speaks, not the one who denies").

    Hitchens' Razor is the principle, credited to writer Christopher
    Hitchens, that "what can be asserted without evidence can also be
    dismissed without evidence," meaning the burden of proof lies with the
    person making the claim, and unsupported assertions can be rejected
    without needing counter-evidence. It's a tool for critical thinking,
    applying the concept of skepticism to unfounded claims, especially in
    debates about religion or extraordinary ideas, by demanding proof from
    those who propose them.

    wearing imbecilic cunt. This is the bit that flies over your pig
    ignorant head high enough for the Blue Angels to perform their aerobatic routine in the gap.

    The above is what flies over your pig ignorant head.

    You carry on as if you're the sheriff of Nottingham who has some magical authority to make demands of people, when in reality you're a fucking
    noise making nobody in a pissy little irrelevant newsgroup who is *not* entitled to jack shit from anyone.

    Your claims to three (3) trade qualifications were, and are, over the
    top. You failed to provide evidence of their veracity - so I did that
    for you and found instead evidence that all were a pack of lies -
    nothing in the archives, nothing in the trade register.

    This is very basic and you've been told many times before, but for some reason it just doesn't register with you. Perhaps it's due to the fact
    that you're so caught up in your own image of yourself that you can't
    tell night from day anymore, but the simple arithmetic here is this:

    Please don't talk about simple arithmetic, even that is too complex for you.

    You are free to believe or disbelieve whatever the fuck you like, but no

    And free to make assertions about your baseless and evidence free claims.

    one owes you any explanations. If you wish to believe something as

    If you understand the concept of homour, you are honour bound to back up
    your claims with evidence when asked - so I'm asking - evidence please!

    untrue then fine, but if you think anyone is obligated to lift a fucking finger to satisfy you in any way then you are more ridiculously deluded
    than even I give you credit for, and trust me I think your level of
    delusion is off the fucking scale.

    Delusion is your middle name Darren.

    You nothing to anyone around here, and as soon as you get a grip on
    reality and stop pretending that you're a member of some special badge wearing club the better off you'll be.

    Projection!


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 09:37:14
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:09 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:53 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Except he has. YOU never have, you've just made claims you won't
    (can't) back!

    Yep, I've provided plenty of proof. He and the pommy dickhead just
    deny it.

    Funny. Everyone must have blinked and missed it all at exactly the same time.

    He's never provided any proof of his grandiose claims, ever.

    There is nothing "grandoise" about any of my claims.

    Compared to what I suspect you've *actually* done they are.

    That you choose to believe whatever I say or not is none of > my business,

    lol!

    "none of my business"... snigger.

    sing: There's no business like Noddy business
    Like no business I know
    Everything about it is ficticious
    Busting him provided a warm glow
    Served him right for being so malicious
    It was delicious
    He should just go.

    and not someone I could care less about.

    Not the point Fraudster.
    Remember, ?Your claim. You get to prove it.? Fraudster, 02Jun18.

    You operate *way* above your pay grade if you think otherwise.

    As they say, "You don't get to be the judge of that".

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 09:39:47
    Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying." >>>
    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about
    yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit of it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you?


    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.

    Buffo will be along soon to admit that he erred.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 10:42:11
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an independent motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motor- per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for some >>>>>>>>>>>>> GPS thing or something claiming that you were a "real" >>>>>>>>>>>>> programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I >>>>>>>>>>>> challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and >>>>>>>>>>> anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if >>>>>>>>>>> required and upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That >>>>>>>>>>> proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can
    program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that >>>>>>>>>>> claimed to be sooper speshal programmer because you did it >>>>>>>>>>> from scratch or some bullshit like that in one of your
    typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But when you were >>>>>>>>>>> asked to provide some proof of your superior programming >>>>>>>>>>> abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of course, as >>>>>>>>>>> always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even
    comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and evading. >>>>>>>>>
    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that >>>>>>>>> is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to >>>>>>>>> the crunch you run away with your tail between your legs. Always. >>>>>>>>>

    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the
    distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but >>>>>>> when asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you
    wrote from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you
    are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody"
    includes you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away
    screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that
    claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple >>>>> process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was
    rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult
    leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given >>>>> that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people >>>>> can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question
    has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest.
    You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to >>>>> make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more
    conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that claim,
    but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple process
    anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was rubbed
    through your own shit here are the words from your cult leader whom
    backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question has to >>> be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. You're >>> not going to win a trophy for having done something that you consider to >>> be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to make >>> yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you were
    put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies and
    deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged to produce an example of your programming skills. End of story.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I won't
    be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon. Surprised
    that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish imbecile..



    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 09:59:00
    Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*.. /* snip tedious */

    Technically true, except in a court of law (and a few other official settings), but the convention just about everywhere is, "Your claim. You
    get to prove it.? Fraudster, 02Jun18. The consequence of someone
    refusing to respond is traditionally to believe that they're a liar.

    You made your choice Fraudster and it was a very bad & stupid one. The
    best thing you could do now is to slither away to somewhere else and
    start again under a new nick.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 13:00:44
    On 20/1/2026 10:59 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*.. /* snip tedious */

    Technically true, except in a court of law (and a few other official settings), but the convention just about everywhere is, "Your claim. You
    get to prove it.? Fraudster, 02Jun18. The consequence of someone
    refusing to respond is traditionally to believe that they're a liar.

    You made your choice Fraudster and it was a very bad & stupid one. The
    best thing you could do now is to slither away to somewhere else and
    start again under a new nick.

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums. It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated* forums.

    Anyway, even under a new nick, you could pick his self aggrandising (grandiose) bullshit anywhere - and his delusion, they are truly unique.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 13:06:07
    On 20/01/2026 1:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Anyway, even under a new nick, you could pick his self aggrandising (grandiose) bullshit anywhere - and his delusion, they are truly unique.

    as is yours, xeno-lith... you were caught out about 10 mins after you re-appeared when you moved to the retirement village "up on the ridge" Shit-fer-brains' hypocrisy shining bright...


    :-D


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 10:23:47
    On 19/01/2026 8:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*,

    That's not what you have claimed in the past, you definitely placed that
    onus on the claimants.

    Your position is that everyone should prove their claims or be thought
    of as a bullshit artist *except* when it comes to your claims. Oh no,
    everyone should just accept those as fact.

    That's not how it works dumbarse. You get judged by your own standards
    and by that judgement you most definitely *are* 100% a bullshit artist.

    Your arguing with your own position you fucking loon.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 10:39:32
    On 19/01/2026 5:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything
    else and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all they
    want to do around here is talk about me day after day.



    So you should be left to bullshit your brains out, tell lies about
    others and falsely attribute claims to other people without pushback, is
    that it?

    You've driven enough people away from this group in the past in
    countless unwarranted personal attacks simply because they disagreed
    with you on some point but now that your own bullshit and behaviour is
    under the microscope ol' glassjaw Noddy wants to be left alone to lie in peace... poor diddums.

    You made your bed, we're living in your head rent free and you deserve
    it. Suck it up princess.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 13:47:47
    On 20/1/2026 1:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything
    else and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all they
    want to do around here is talk about me day after day.



    So you should be left to bullshit your brains out, tell lies about
    others and falsely attribute claims to other people without pushback, is that it?

    You've driven enough people away from this group in the past in
    countless unwarranted personal attacks simply because they disagreed
    with you on some point but now that your own bullshit and behaviour is
    under the microscope ol' glassjaw Noddy wants to be left alone to lie in peace... poor diddums.

    You made your bed, we're living in your head rent free and you deserve
    it. Suck it up princess.

    Yeah, we should bring in some chairs, a table, make it a little more comfortable in here. Would also help to dampen the echoes somewhat.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 15:12:54
    On 20/01/2026 1:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything
    else and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all they
    want to do around here is talk about me day after day.



    So you should be left to bullshit your brains out, tell lies about
    others and falsely attribute claims to other people without pushback, is that it?

    Even if that nonsense were true, what the *fuck* does it have to do with
    you? This is an unmoderated newsgroup, and much to your obvious
    displeasure no one went on holiday and left you in charge.

    You need to get the fuck over yourself, Junior. No one needs your
    permission to post around here :)

    You've driven enough people away from this group in the past in
    countless unwarranted personal attacks simply because they disagreed
    with you on some point but now that your own bullshit and behaviour is
    under the microscope ol' glassjaw Noddy wants to be left alone to lie in peace... poor diddums.

    Utter bullshit. If there was any one person who has done more to drive
    people away from here then it's your clog wearing mental mate and his incessant repetitive bullshit.

    You made your bed, we're living in your head rent free and you deserve
    it. Suck it up princess.

    Not only are you delusional, but it's become abundantly clear how you
    managed to emigrate from a country where English is a commonly spoken
    language without speaking a word of it. It's because everyone *there*
    thought you were a contemptible cunt and wanted nothing to do with you
    just the same as they do here.

    If nothing else, you're consistent.




    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 15:12:54
    On 20/01/2026 1:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything
    else and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all they
    want to do around here is talk about me day after day.



    So you should be left to bullshit your brains out, tell lies about
    others and falsely attribute claims to other people without pushback, is that it?

    Even if that nonsense were true, what the *fuck* does it have to do with
    you? This is an unmoderated newsgroup, and much to your obvious
    displeasure no one went on holiday and left you in charge.

    You need to get the fuck over yourself, Junior. No one needs your
    permission to post around here :)

    You've driven enough people away from this group in the past in
    countless unwarranted personal attacks simply because they disagreed
    with you on some point but now that your own bullshit and behaviour is
    under the microscope ol' glassjaw Noddy wants to be left alone to lie in peace... poor diddums.

    Utter bullshit. If there was any one person who has done more to drive
    people away from here then it's your clog wearing mental mate and his incessant repetitive bullshit.

    You made your bed, we're living in your head rent free and you deserve
    it. Suck it up princess.

    Not only are you delusional, but it's become abundantly clear how you
    managed to emigrate from a country where English is a commonly spoken
    language without speaking a word of it. It's because everyone *there*
    thought you were a contemptible cunt and wanted nothing to do with you
    just the same as they do here.

    If nothing else, you're consistent.




    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 15:30:30
    On 20/1/2026 3:12 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 1:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything
    else and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all they
    want to do around here is talk about me day after day.



    So you should be left to bullshit your brains out, tell lies about
    others and falsely attribute claims to other people without pushback,
    is that it?

    Even if that nonsense were true, what the *fuck* does it have to do with you? This is an unmoderated newsgroup, and much to your obvious

    It's public, you are despoiling it so *everyone* has a right to complain
    about your bullshit.

    displeasure no one went on holiday and left you in charge.

    You need to get the fuck over yourself, Junior. No one needs your
    permission to post around here :)

    Yes, we've been telling *YOU* that for such a long time now.
    What we are on about is the whopping great *LIES* you tell here.


    You've driven enough people away from this group in the past in
    countless unwarranted personal attacks simply because they disagreed
    with you on some point but now that your own bullshit and behaviour is
    under the microscope ol' glassjaw Noddy wants to be left alone to lie
    in peace... poor diddums.

    Utter bullshit. If there was any one person who has done more to drive

    True, I have observed you doing precisely that.

    people away from here then it's your clog wearing mental mate and his incessant repetitive bullshit.

    People can killfile me, I have no problem with that. The issue is your narcissism - you can't help yourself, you just have to read everything I
    post.

    You made your bed, we're living in your head rent free and you deserve
    it. Suck it up princess.

    Not only are you delusional, but it's become abundantly clear how you

    Darren, stop projecting, you're the delusional one here!

    managed to emigrate from a country where English is a commonly spoken language without speaking a word of it. It's because everyone *there*

    You weren't in the Netherlands in the era concerned Darren so you have
    no possible way of knowing save for Google. And Google backs Clocky, not
    you!

    thought you were a contemptible cunt and wanted nothing to do with you
    just the same as they do here.

    Funny, I thought that was why *YOU* lived on a desolate mesa.

    If nothing else, you're consistent.






    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 15:31:54
    On 20/01/2026 1:23 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 8:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*,

    That's not what you have claimed in the past, you definitely placed that onus on the claimants.

    It's clear English isn't your bag :)

    I've placed no such "onus" on anyone, and I invite you to cite any
    example where I have done so.

    Your position is that everyone should prove their claims or be thought
    of as a bullshit artist *except* when it comes to your claims. Oh no, everyone should just accept those as fact.

    No, that's your spin. I've never said anything of the kind, and yet
    again you are bullshitting your brains out in order to create a position
    from which to argue from. On the contrary, I have said a number of times
    now that I couldn't care less whether people believe me or not, but you
    and your mental mate simply refuse to accept that. Presumably because
    you can't get your head around the fact that there are people out there
    who don't give a fuck what you choose to believe.

    As for other people's claims, I've asked people to feel free to support
    their claims in the past like many others have done, but if they've
    chosen not to then so be it. What I *haven't* done is incessantly
    pursued people by repeatedly asking for "proof" over and over for
    *years*, as that would be totally insane.

    Know what I mean?

    That's not how it works dumbarse. You get judged by your own standards
    and by that judgement you most definitely *are* 100% a bullshit artist.

    Your arguing with your own position you fucking loon.

    It's difficult to imagine anyone being more stupid than you demonstrate yourself to be, and for the life of me I simply cannot understand why
    you do it. Either you really *are* this much of a fucking imbecile, or
    you think what you do impresses people in some way and makes you look superior.

    Like calling yourself the "voice of reason" for example. All that ever
    did was make you look like a fucking twat :)


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 13:18:47
    On 20/01/2026 12:12 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 1:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything
    else and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all they
    want to do around here is talk about me day after day.



    So you should be left to bullshit your brains out, tell lies about
    others and falsely attribute claims to other people without pushback,
    is that it?

    Even if that nonsense were true,

    It is true. Proven so countless times.

    what the *fuck* does it have to do with
    you? This is an unmoderated newsgroup, and much to your obvious
    displeasure no one went on holiday and left you in charge.


    "This is an unmoderated newsgroup"

    If you don't like having your glass jaw broken nobody is stopping you
    from leaving.

    You need to get the fuck over yourself, Junior. No one needs your
    permission to post around here :)


    "what the *fuck* does it have to do with
    you?"

    he farted out moments earlier.

    I don't need *your* permission to post here, son.

    "This is an unmoderated newsgroup"

    Remember, you dumb cunt?

    <snip white noise in protest>


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 16:44:45
    On 20/1/2026 3:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 1:23 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 8:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*,

    That's not what you have claimed in the past, you definitely placed
    that onus on the claimants.

    It's clear English isn't your bag :)

    It's absolutely clear English isn't yours!


    I've placed no such "onus" on anyone, and I invite you to cite any
    example where I have done so.

    You always did - right up until you began to be called out on proof of
    your own lies. Then your tune changed! But you set the *original*
    example - as cited so often by Alvey.

    Your position is that everyone should prove their claims or be thought
    of as a bullshit artist *except* when it comes to your claims. Oh no,
    everyone should just accept those as fact.

    No, that's your spin. I've never said anything of the kind, and yet
    again you are bullshitting your brains out in order to create a position

    Alvey frequently cites your words Darren.

    from which to argue from. On the contrary, I have said a number of times
    now that I couldn't care less whether people believe me or not, but you

    Oh, you do care. You're responding, you care!

    and your mental mate simply refuse to accept that. Presumably because
    you can't get your head around the fact that there are people out there
    who don't give a fuck what you choose to believe.

    We don't believe your lies.

    As for other people's claims, I've asked people to feel free to support their claims in the past like many others have done, but if they've
    chosen not to then so be it. What I *haven't* done is incessantly
    pursued people by repeatedly asking for "proof" over and over for
    *years*, as that would be totally insane.

    Know what I mean?

    Nope, because you once did just that - until the tables turned on you!

    That's not how it works dumbarse. You get judged by your own standards
    and by that judgement you most definitely *are* 100% a bullshit artist.

    Your arguing with your own position you fucking loon.

    It's difficult to imagine anyone being more stupid than you demonstrate yourself to be, and for the life of me I simply cannot understand why
    you do it. Either you really *are* this much of a fucking imbecile, or
    you think what you do impresses people in some way and makes you look superior.

    Like calling yourself the "voice of reason" for example. All that ever
    did was make you look like a fucking twat :)

    If he looks like one, you *are* one!

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 16:09:48
    On 19/01/2026 8:22 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:39 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:04 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 4:14 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 2:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 12:30 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Yet *another* conveniently placed friend, huh?

    Imaginary? He gave you a phone number and what did you do? On
    with the running shoes and away you went!

    Just like you did when you threatened to call the local tyre
    dealer here and get the "real story". You shit yourself and went
    whisper quiet when I gave you the number and told you who to ask
    for :)>
    It was pointless making that call when blind Freddy could see that
    the tyre was completely fucked as was clearly evidenced by the photo. >>>>
    No shit. That's exactly what I said in the original post. Still, it
    never stopped you from going off on a mindless rant and threatening
    to call the tyre dealer anyway.

    Just like the noise you made about Les's Lotus when you initially
    said "It would help if you used the correct lifting points, or is
    that as high as you went?" You had no problem with what you saw the
    pics

    So saying "It would help if you used the correct lifting points" is
    saying there is no problem?

    Looks like you didn't speak English at age 9 either.

    <snip irrelevant rant>


    You even had to invent friends and dignitaries to attend an
    imaginary BBQ at your place - and that turned out to be a street >>>>>>> party elsewhere that you presumably didn't get an invite to you >>>>>>> deceitful blowhard :-)

    ROTFL :)

    You live 4 thousand fucking km's away you ignoramus. You have
    absolutely no idea what you're talking about :)


    You revealed it yourself you fucking clown.

    Feel free to cite the post, Mr History revisionist.



    Why? So you can deny your own posts again before launching into yet
    another barrage of lies, deflection and personal attacks?

    Exit clocky chased by a bear.

    The pen of my aunt is in the garden...


    That is a stupid place to keep a pen.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 16:13:02
    On 19/01/2026 8:39 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:01 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:11 am, Clocky wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    It's a valid question you keep running away from and the primary
    reason you lack any kind of credibility.

    The valid answer is that you, xeno, and avlo are the only people on
    earth who even give a shit. The entire population of the world less
    you 3 couldn't care less.

    Exactly.

    Exactly wrong Buffo.
    If it's only Clock, Xeno and me who care then what are you and Ritcho
    doing here?

    Pointing out your stupidities.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 16:14:51
    On 20/01/2026 9:39 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is
    lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about
    yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit of
    it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you?


    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.

    Buffo will be along soon to admit that he erred.

    Why don't you chatter among yourselves girls noone else can be bothered

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 16:18:23
    On 20/01/2026 8:18 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 19/1/2026 11:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*, you stupid clog

    Then you clearly do not understand the concept of responsibility.

    ˙if you make a claim, in particular an affirmative assertion or one
    that challenges the status quo, the onus (burden of proof) is upon you
    to substantiate it if asked. This principle, rooted in logic and debate, dictates that the person asserting a proposition *must* provide
    sufficient evidence to support it, rather than requiring others to
    disprove it.

    The person making a claim (the proponent) bears the responsibility of providing evidence, often summarized by the Latin maxim onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat ("the burden of proof lies with
    the one who speaks, not the one who denies").

    Hitchens' Razor is the principle, credited to writer Christopher
    Hitchens, that "what can be asserted without evidence can also be
    dismissed without evidence," meaning the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, and unsupported assertions can be rejected
    without needing counter-evidence. It's a tool for critical thinking, applying the concept of skepticism to unfounded claims, especially in debates about religion or extraordinary ideas, by demanding proof from
    those who propose them.

    xeno trying to sound professorial, and only proving that anybody can google.

    wearing imbecilic cunt. This is the bit that flies over your pig
    ignorant head high enough for the Blue Angels to perform their
    aerobatic routine in the gap.

    The above is what flies over your pig ignorant head.

    You carry on as if you're the sheriff of Nottingham who has some
    magical authority to make demands of people, when in reality you're a
    fucking noise making nobody in a pissy little irrelevant newsgroup who
    is *not* entitled to jack shit from anyone.

    Your claims to three (3) trade qualifications were, and are, over the
    top. You failed to provide evidence of their veracity - so I did that
    for you and found instead evidence that all were a pack of lies -
    nothing in the archives, nothing in the trade register.

    This is very basic and you've been told many times before, but for
    some reason it just doesn't register with you. Perhaps it's due to the
    fact that you're so caught up in your own image of yourself that you
    can't tell night from day anymore, but the simple arithmetic here is
    this:

    Please don't talk about simple arithmetic, even that is too complex for
    you.

    You are free to believe or disbelieve whatever the fuck you like, but no

    And free to make assertions about your baseless and evidence free claims.

    one owes you any explanations. If you wish to believe something as

    If you understand the concept of homour, you are honour bound to back up your claims with evidence when asked - so I'm asking - evidence please!

    untrue then fine, but if you think anyone is obligated to lift a
    fucking finger to satisfy you in any way then you are more
    ridiculously deluded than even I give you credit for, and trust me I
    think your level of delusion is off the fucking scale.

    Delusion is your middle name Darren.

    You nothing to anyone around here, and as soon as you get a grip on
    reality and stop pretending that you're a member of some special badge
    wearing club the better off you'll be.

    Projection!




    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 16:21:12
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums. It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 16:34:47
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some interesting stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an independent motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motor- per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim?

    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some GPS thing or something claiming that you were a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I >>>>>>>>>>>>> challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if >>>>>>>>>>>> required and upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That >>>>>>>>>>>> proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can >>>>>>>>>>>> program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that >>>>>>>>>>>> claimed to be sooper speshal programmer because you did it >>>>>>>>>>>> from scratch or some bullshit like that in one of your >>>>>>>>>>>> typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But when you were >>>>>>>>>>>> asked to provide some proof of your superior programming >>>>>>>>>>>> abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of course, as >>>>>>>>>>>> always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even >>>>>>>>>> comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and >>>>>>>>>> evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that >>>>>>>>>> is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to >>>>>>>>>> the crunch you run away with your tail between your legs. Always. >>>>>>>>>>

    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the
    distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but >>>>>>>> when asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you
    wrote from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you >>>>>>>> are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody"
    includes you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away
    screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that
    claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a
    simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented >>>>>> circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was
    rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult
    leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and
    given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people >>>>>> can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily >>>>>> tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question >>>>>> has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. >>>>>> You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are >>>>>> definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is
    to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more
    conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that
    claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple
    process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was
    rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult
    leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given >>>> that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question
    has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest.
    You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to
    make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more conceited >>>> if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you were
    put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies and
    deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged to produce
    an example of your programming skills. End of story.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I
    won't be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon. Surprised
    that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes him.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 14:49:56
    On 20/01/2026 2:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated*
    forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    What for since you don't even have the integrity to consider the proof
    and respond to it an adult manner?

    I posted verifiable proof that backed up exactly what I had said and
    proved you 100% wrong and all you did was snip and deny it and just
    powered on with your lies because your ego is so fragile that you can't
    admit you were wrong.






    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 14:57:05
    On 20/01/2026 12:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 1:23 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 8:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*,

    That's not what you have claimed in the past, you definitely placed
    that onus on the claimants.

    It's clear English isn't your bag :)


    Though much better than your English obviously.

    I've placed no such "onus" on anyone,

    FFS you have been quoted countless times suggesting those making the
    claims get to prove them.

    You proved nothing of your claims only that you're an incessant liar.

    <snip unread>






    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 15:16:21
    On 20/01/2026 2:14 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:39 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is
    lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about
    yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit
    of it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you?


    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.

    Buffo will be along soon to admit that he erred.

    Why don't you chatter among yourselves girls noone else can be bothered


    Running away because you know you're done, again, as always.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 15:20:12
    On 20/01/2026 2:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff with an independent motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws-first- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027-with-one- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motor- per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some GPS thing or something claiming that you were a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and >>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if >>>>>>>>>>>>> required and upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That >>>>>>>>>>>>> proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you enable agreed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the
    road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can >>>>>>>>>>>>> program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that >>>>>>>>>>>>> claimed to be sooper speshal programmer because you did it >>>>>>>>>>>>> from scratch or some bullshit like that in one of your >>>>>>>>>>>>> typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But when you were >>>>>>>>>>>>> asked to provide some proof of your superior programming >>>>>>>>>>>>> abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of course, as >>>>>>>>>>>>> always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even >>>>>>>>>>> comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and >>>>>>>>>>> evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why that >>>>>>>>>>> is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it comes to >>>>>>>>>>> the crunch you run away with your tail between your legs. >>>>>>>>>>> Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the >>>>>>>>>> distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - but >>>>>>>>> when asked to produce some of your code that you claimed you >>>>>>>>> wrote from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you >>>>>>>>> are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody"
    includes you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away >>>>>>>> screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that
    claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a
    simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented >>>>>>> circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was
    rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult
    leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and >>>>>>> given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which
    people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily >>>>>>> tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question >>>>>>> has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. >>>>>>> You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are >>>>>>> definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is >>>>>>> to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more
    conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that
    claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a simple >>>>> process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented
    circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was
    rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult
    leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and given >>>>> that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people >>>>> can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question
    has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest.
    You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is to >>>>> make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more
    conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you were
    put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies and
    deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged to produce
    an example of your programming skills. End of story.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I
    won't be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon. Surprised
    that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes him.


    Keep running keith. Careful you don't trip over your cooked drunken slob
    mate on your way out...

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 19:22:12
    On 20/1/2026 5:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated*
    forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    Yeah, Darren's own words that he doesn't post on other forums. I know
    why, he's a forum poisoner.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:18:17
    On 20/01/2026 5:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:18 am, Xeno wrote:

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*, you stupid clog

    Then you clearly do not understand the concept of responsibility.

    ˙˙if you make a claim, in particular an affirmative assertion or one
    that challenges the status quo, the onus (burden of proof) is upon you
    to substantiate it if asked. This principle, rooted in logic and
    debate, dictates that the person asserting a proposition *must*
    provide sufficient evidence to support it, rather than requiring
    others to disprove it.

    The person making a claim (the proponent) bears the responsibility of
    providing evidence, often summarized by the Latin maxim onus probandi
    incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat ("the burden of proof lies
    with the one who speaks, not the one who denies").

    Hitchens' Razor is the principle, credited to writer Christopher
    Hitchens, that "what can be asserted without evidence can also be
    dismissed without evidence," meaning the burden of proof lies with the
    person making the claim, and unsupported assertions can be rejected
    without needing counter-evidence. It's a tool for critical thinking,
    applying the concept of skepticism to unfounded claims, especially in
    debates about religion or extraordinary ideas, by demanding proof from
    those who propose them.

    xeno trying to sound professorial, and only proving that anybody can
    google.

    And be completely irrelevant in doing so.

    Not one word of his cut and pasted rambling does anything to suggest
    that there is an "onus" on *anyone* to prove anything to anyone else in
    an informal, unmoderated discussion group like this. This is *not* a
    court of law, and there is no obligation on anyone to do a thing. The
    choice of whether or not to believe lies with the listener, and
    regardless of whatever choice they make no one else has an obligation to satisfy them just because they may not like what they hear.

    There is no concept of responsibility to be applied here, and there most certainly does *not* need to be the display of hypocrisy we see here
    that comes from the person who has made more unfounded claims in this
    group than every other poster combined :)




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    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:20:11
    On 20/01/2026 4:18 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:12 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 1:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything >>>>> else and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all they
    want to do around here is talk about me day after day.



    So you should be left to bullshit your brains out, tell lies about
    others and falsely attribute claims to other people without pushback,
    is that it?

    Even if that nonsense were true,

    It is true. Proven so countless times.

    what the *fuck* does it have to do with
    you? This is an unmoderated newsgroup, and much to your obvious
    displeasure no one went on holiday and left you in charge.


    "This is an unmoderated newsgroup"

    If you don't like having your glass jaw broken nobody is stopping you
    from leaving.

    You need to get the fuck over yourself, Junior. No one needs your
    permission to post around here :)


    "what the *fuck* does it have to do with
    ˙you?"

    he farted out moments earlier.

    I don't need *your* permission to post here, son.

    "This is an unmoderated newsgroup"

    Remember, you dumb cunt?

    <snip white noise in protest>

    Touched a nerve, did I clogwog? :)


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    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:21:00
    On 20/01/2026 5:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated*
    forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    Don't hold your breath waiting :)

    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:23:51
    On 20/01/2026 5:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:31 pm, Noddy wrote:


    I've placed no such "onus" on anyone,

    FFS you have been quoted countless times suggesting those making the
    claims get to prove them.

    Indeed, and I've never argued against the idea. The point, which
    completely escapes you, is that suggesting that as being the case does
    not obligate anyone to comply.

    You couldn't be any more of a one dimensional fucktard if you wanted to be.


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    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:25:38
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon. Surprised
    that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego is
    not supported by his character.



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    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:34:33
    On 20/01/2026 5:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:18 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 19/1/2026 11:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*, you stupid clog

    Then you clearly do not understand the concept of responsibility.

    ˙˙if you make a claim, in particular an affirmative assertion or one
    that challenges the status quo, the onus (burden of proof) is upon you
    to substantiate it if asked. This principle, rooted in logic and
    debate, dictates that the person asserting a proposition *must*
    provide sufficient evidence to support it, rather than requiring
    others to disprove it.

    The person making a claim (the proponent) bears the responsibility of
    providing evidence, often summarized by the Latin maxim onus probandi
    incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat ("the burden of proof lies
    with the one who speaks, not the one who denies").

    Who's work have you stolen this lot from, shit-fer-brains?>>
    Hitchens' Razor is the principle, credited to writer Christopher
    Hitchens, that "what can be asserted without evidence can also be
    dismissed without evidence," meaning the burden of proof lies with the
    person making the claim, and unsupported assertions can be rejected
    without needing counter-evidence. It's a tool for critical thinking,
    applying the concept of skepticism to unfounded claims, especially in
    debates about religion or extraordinary ideas, by demanding proof from
    those who propose them.

    xeno trying to sound professorial, and only proving that anybody can
    google.

    And plagiarize.. Tomas the Teachers Arsehole is good at that. Ask him
    about DNA... Or London Smog...

    He's nothing more than a fucking thief. A lying big-noting loudmouthed
    fucking thief.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:35:50
    On 20/01/2026 5:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated*
    forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.


    Hahahahahaha Well, Tomas?


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From lindsay@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:39:13
    On 20/01/2026 7:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 20/1/2026 5:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated*
    forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    Yeah, Darren's own words that he doesn't post on other forums.

    That doesn't mean he's been "expelled", shit-fer-brains.

    I know
    why, he's a forum poisoner.

    I seem to remember you fucked 7 threads in 7 days here, and also had a
    hand in 3 of the last 5?

    You gold plated liar and hypocrite...






    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:47:08
    On 20/1/2026 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:18 am, Xeno wrote:


    And be completely irrelevant in doing so.

    Not one word of his cut and pasted rambling does anything to suggest
    that there is an "onus" on *anyone* to prove anything to anyone else in
    an informal, unmoderated discussion group like this. This is *not* a
    court of law, and there is no obligation on anyone to do a thing. The
    choice of whether or not to believe lies with the listener, and
    regardless of whatever choice they make no one else has an obligation to satisfy them just because they may not like what they hear.

    There is no concept of responsibility to be applied here, and there most

    Beg to differ! When you make a claim to be trade qualified, you are
    *legally obligated* to provide proof of said claim if contested. When
    you make a claim to be trade qualified, but are indeed *not* qualified
    at all, you are committing *fraud* and, for, such there are legal consequences. You also claimed membership of the VACC. Doing so whilst
    not ever being a member is *also fraud*.

    certainly does *not* need to be the display of hypocrisy we see here
    that comes from the person who has made more unfounded claims in this
    group than every other poster combined :)

    That would be you! Three apprenticeships claimed, the evidence says
    *NONE*, 2 trade qualifications claimed, the trade registration database
    says lie, name not present. VACC membership claimed, the email response
    says the VACC has no record of you or your *claimed* businesses?

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 21:27:58
    On 20/01/2026 8:34 pm, lindsay wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:18 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 19/1/2026 11:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*, you stupid clog

    Then you clearly do not understand the concept of responsibility.

    ˙˙if you make a claim, in particular an affirmative assertion or one
    that challenges the status quo, the onus (burden of proof) is upon
    you to substantiate it if asked. This principle, rooted in logic and
    debate, dictates that the person asserting a proposition *must*
    provide sufficient evidence to support it, rather than requiring
    others to disprove it.

    The person making a claim (the proponent) bears the responsibility of
    providing evidence, often summarized by the Latin maxim onus probandi
    incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat ("the burden of proof lies
    with the one who speaks, not the one who denies").

    Who's work have you stolen this lot from, shit-fer-brains?>>
    Hitchens' Razor is the principle, credited to writer Christopher
    Hitchens, that "what can be asserted without evidence can also be
    dismissed without evidence," meaning the burden of proof lies with
    the person making the claim, and unsupported assertions can be
    rejected without needing counter-evidence. It's a tool for critical
    thinking, applying the concept of skepticism to unfounded claims,
    especially in debates about religion or extraordinary ideas, by
    demanding proof from those who propose them.

    xeno trying to sound professorial, and only proving that anybody can
    google.

    And plagiarize.. Tomas the Teachers Arsehole is good at that. Ask him
    about DNA... Or London Smog...

    He's nothing more than a fucking thief. A lying big-noting loudmouthed fucking thief.

    Him attempting to dictate to anyone about providing support for claims
    is the height of hypocrisy :)



    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:28:52
    On 20/01/2026 5:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:14 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:39 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is
    lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about
    yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit
    of it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you?


    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.

    Buffo will be along soon to admit that he erred.

    Why don't you chatter among yourselves girls noone else can be bothered


    Running away because you know you're done, again, as always.

    Not only are you a misery, but boring too.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:32:45
    On 20/01/2026 7:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 20/1/2026 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:18 am, Xeno wrote:


    And be completely irrelevant in doing so.

    Not one word of his cut and pasted rambling does anything to suggest
    that there is an "onus" on *anyone* to prove anything to anyone else
    in an informal, unmoderated discussion group like this. This is *not*
    a court of law, and there is no obligation on anyone to do a thing.
    The choice of whether or not to believe lies with the listener, and
    regardless of whatever choice they make no one else has an obligation
    to satisfy them just because they may not like what they hear.

    There is no concept of responsibility to be applied here, and there most

    Beg to differ! When you make a claim to be trade qualified, you are
    *legally obligated* to provide proof of said claim if contested.

    Perhaps you could point out the relevant legislation.

    When
    you make a claim to be trade qualified, but are indeed *not* qualified
    at all, you are committing *fraud* and, for, such there are legal consequences. You also claimed membership of the VACC. Doing so whilst
    not ever being a member is *also fraud*.

    Definition of fraud - wrongful or criminal deception intended to result
    in financial or personal gain.

    Can you prove financial or personal gain.

    certainly does *not* need to be the display of hypocrisy we see here
    that comes from the person who has made more unfounded claims in this
    group than every other poster combined :)

    That would be you! Three apprenticeships claimed, the evidence says
    *NONE*, 2 trade qualifications claimed, the trade registration database
    says lie, name not present. VACC membership claimed, the email response
    says the VACC has no record of you or your *claimed* businesses?



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:36:40
    On 20/01/2026 4:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated*
    forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    What for since you don't even have the integrity to consider the proof
    and respond to it an adult manner?

    I posted verifiable proof that backed up exactly what I had said and
    proved you 100% wrong and all you did was snip and deny it and just
    powered on with your lies because your ego is so fragile that you can't admit you were wrong.

    What the fuck are you wittering about? Do you have some verifiable
    proof of him being expelled from all the other car forums or not?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:37:15
    On 20/01/2026 6:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 20/1/2026 5:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated*
    forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    Yeah, Darren's own words that he doesn't post on other forums. I know
    why, he's a forum poisoner.

    I suggest that you know fuck all about it.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 20:40:33
    On 20/01/2026 5:20 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff with an independent motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first- electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with-one- motor- per- wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some GPS thing or something claiming that you were a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if >>>>>>>>>>>>>> required and upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you enable agreed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claimed to be sooper speshal programmer because you did it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from scratch or some bullshit like that in one of your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But when you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were asked to provide some proof of your superior >>>>>>>>>>>>>> programming abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even >>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and >>>>>>>>>>>> evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why >>>>>>>>>>>> that is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it >>>>>>>>>>>> comes to the crunch you run away with your tail between your >>>>>>>>>>>> legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the >>>>>>>>>>> distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - >>>>>>>>>> but when asked to produce some of your code that you claimed >>>>>>>>>> you wrote from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, you >>>>>>>>>> are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" >>>>>>>>> includes you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away >>>>>>>>> screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that >>>>>>>> claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a
    simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a
    demented circular argument just as you did last time your fool >>>>>>>> nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from >>>>>>>> your cult leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the >>>>>>>> topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and >>>>>>>> given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which >>>>>>>> people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily >>>>>>>> tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious
    question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a
    contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are >>>>>>>> definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is >>>>>>>> to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more >>>>>>>> conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that
    claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a
    simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented >>>>>> circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was
    rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult
    leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and
    given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which people >>>>>> can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily >>>>>> tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question >>>>>> has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. >>>>>> You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are >>>>>> definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is
    to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more
    conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you
    were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies and
    deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged to produce
    an example of your programming skills. End of story.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I
    won't be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon. Surprised
    that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes him.


    Keep running keith. Careful you don't trip over your cooked drunken slob mate on your way out...

    Another irrelevant smoke screen to cover up your inability to answer a
    simple question.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 21:53:21
    On 20-Jan-26 5:18 PM, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:18 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 19/1/2026 11:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*, you stupid clog

    Then you clearly do not understand the concept of responsibility.

    ˙˙if you make a claim, in particular an affirmative assertion or one
    that challenges the status quo, the onus (burden of proof) is upon you
    to substantiate it if asked. This principle, rooted in logic and
    debate, dictates that the person asserting a proposition *must*
    provide sufficient evidence to support it, rather than requiring
    others to disprove it.

    The person making a claim (the proponent) bears the responsibility of
    providing evidence, often summarized by the Latin maxim onus probandi
    incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat ("the burden of proof lies
    with the one who speaks, not the one who denies").

    Hitchens' Razor is the principle, credited to writer Christopher
    Hitchens, that "what can be asserted without evidence can also be
    dismissed without evidence," meaning the burden of proof lies with the
    person making the claim, and unsupported assertions can be rejected
    without needing counter-evidence. It's a tool for critical thinking,
    applying the concept of skepticism to unfounded claims, especially in
    debates about religion or extraordinary ideas, by demanding proof from
    those who propose them.

    xeno trying to sound professorial, and only proving that anybody can
    google.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    'Twas always thus!. I was calling him the Google meister years ago.
    The shit he posts screams *Plagiarism*....Looong wordy spiels, with SFA relevance to to the current topic. Ho Hum...;)

    wearing imbecilic cunt. This is the bit that flies over your pig
    ignorant head high enough for the Blue Angels to perform their
    aerobatic routine in the gap.

    The above is what flies over your pig ignorant head.

    You carry on as if you're the sheriff of Nottingham who has some
    magical authority to make demands of people, when in reality you're a
    fucking noise making nobody in a pissy little irrelevant newsgroup
    who is *not* entitled to jack shit from anyone.

    Your claims to three (3) trade qualifications were, and are, over the
    top. You failed to provide evidence of their veracity - so I did that
    for you and found instead evidence that all were a pack of lies -
    nothing in the archives, nothing in the trade register.

    This is very basic and you've been told many times before, but for
    some reason it just doesn't register with you. Perhaps it's due to
    the fact that you're so caught up in your own image of yourself that
    you can't tell night from day anymore, but the simple arithmetic here
    is this:

    Please don't talk about simple arithmetic, even that is too complex
    for you.

    You are free to believe or disbelieve whatever the fuck you like, but no >>
    And free to make assertions about your baseless and evidence free claims.

    one owes you any explanations. If you wish to believe something as

    If you understand the concept of homour, you are honour bound to back
    up your claims with evidence when asked - so I'm asking - evidence
    please!

    untrue then fine, but if you think anyone is obligated to lift a
    fucking finger to satisfy you in any way then you are more
    ridiculously deluded than even I give you credit for, and trust me I
    think your level of delusion is off the fucking scale.

    Delusion is your middle name Darren.

    You nothing to anyone around here, and as soon as you get a grip on
    reality and stop pretending that you're a member of some special
    badge wearing club the better off you'll be.

    Projection!





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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 19:40:28
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:20 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff with an independent motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first- electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with-one- motor- per- wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some GPS thing or something claiming that you were a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required and upload it. arduino programmed - simple. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you enable agreed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claimed to be sooper speshal programmer because you did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from scratch or some bullshit like that in one of your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But when you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were asked to provide some proof of your superior >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programming abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even >>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and >>>>>>>>>>>>> evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why >>>>>>>>>>>>> that is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it >>>>>>>>>>>>> comes to the crunch you run away with your tail between >>>>>>>>>>>>> your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the >>>>>>>>>>>> distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - >>>>>>>>>>> but when asked to produce some of your code that you claimed >>>>>>>>>>> you wrote from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, >>>>>>>>>>> you are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" >>>>>>>>>> includes you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away >>>>>>>>>> screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that >>>>>>>>> claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a >>>>>>>>> simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a
    demented circular argument just as you did last time your fool >>>>>>>>> nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from >>>>>>>>> your cult leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the >>>>>>>>> topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", >>>>>>>>> and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which >>>>>>>>> people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily >>>>>>>>> tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious
    question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a
    contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you >>>>>>>>> consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you >>>>>>>>> are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here >>>>>>>>> is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more >>>>>>>>> conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that
    claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a
    simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a demented >>>>>>> circular argument just as you did last time your fool nose was
    rubbed through your own shit here are the words from your cult
    leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and >>>>>>> given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which
    people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily >>>>>>> tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious question >>>>>>> has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a contest. >>>>>>> You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are >>>>>>> definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is >>>>>>> to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more
    conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you
    were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies and
    deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged to
    produce an example of your programming skills. End of story.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I
    won't be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish
    imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes him. >>>

    Keep running keith. Careful you don't trip over your cooked drunken
    slob mate on your way out...

    Another irrelevant smoke screen to cover up your inability to answer a simple question.

    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 19:49:05
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon. Surprised
    that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego is
    not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did originally.

    Go back to sleep dumbarse.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 19:51:18
    On 20/01/2026 5:23 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:31 pm, Noddy wrote:


    I've placed no such "onus" on anyone,

    FFS you have been quoted countless times suggesting those making the
    claims get to prove them.

    Indeed, and I've never argued against the idea.

    So you're just a lying hypocrite then exactly as I said.

    Jesus wept...

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 19:52:31
    On 20/01/2026 6:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 4:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became
    *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    What for since you don't even have the integrity to consider the proof
    and respond to it an adult manner?

    I posted verifiable proof that backed up exactly what I had said and
    proved you 100% wrong and all you did was snip and deny it and just
    powered on with your lies because your ego is so fragile that you
    can't admit you were wrong.

    What the fuck are you wittering about?

    You have forgotten already you demented old fool?


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 21:55:06
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 1:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about, anything
    else and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all they
    want to do around here is talk about me day after day.



    So you should be left to bullshit your brains out, tell lies about
    others and falsely attribute claims to other people without pushback,
    is that it?

    Even if that nonsense were true,

    No "if" about it Fraudster. He's being quite generous in fact. I would
    have included massive hypocrisy, bullying, cretinous abuse, racism and a
    few other equally uncomplimentary but accurate characteristics.

    what the *fuck* does it have to do with
    you? This is an unmoderated newsgroup, and much to your obvious
    displeasure no one went on holiday and left you in charge.

    LOL! That's a keeper from the Clown Prince of the Collective Pronouns.

    You need to get the fuck over yourself, Junior. No one needs your
    permission to post around here :)

    Whose claiming otherwise?

    You've driven enough people away from this group in the past in
    countless unwarranted personal attacks simply because they disagreed
    with you on some point but now that your own bullshit and behaviour is
    under the microscope ol' glassjaw Noddy wants to be left alone to lie
    in peace... poor diddums.

    Utter bullshit. If there was any one person who has done more to drive people away from here then it's your clog wearing mental mate and his incessant repetitive bullshit.

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left
    specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    You made your bed, we're living in your head rent free and you deserve
    it. Suck it up princess.

    Not only are you delusional, but it's become abundantly clear how you managed to emigrate from a country where English is a commonly spoken language without speaking a word of it. It's because everyone *there* thought you were a contemptible cunt and wanted nothing to do with you
    just the same as they do here.

    And that's the best comeback you've got? Give it up Fraudster. You're done.

    If nothing else, you're consistent.

    As are you. Consistently shite.


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:01:56
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:39 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is
    lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about
    yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit
    of it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you?


    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.

    Buffo will be along soon to admit that he erred.

    Why don't you chatter among yourselves girls noone else can be bothered

    Can't you use AI or something to come up with something original? (You
    can continue with the inaccuracies till the AI gets sorted)

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:05:06
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:06:32
    On 20/01/2026 10:01 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:39 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is
    lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about
    yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit
    of it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you?


    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.

    Buffo will be along soon to admit that he erred.

    Why don't you chatter among yourselves girls noone else can be bothered

    Can't you use AI or something to come up with something original? (You
    can continue with the inaccuracies till the AI gets sorted)

    You guy never come up with anything original, so why should put effort
    into doing so?

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:08:37
    On 20/01/2026 9:52 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 4:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became
    *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on
    about proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    What for since you don't even have the integrity to consider the
    proof and respond to it an adult manner?

    I posted verifiable proof that backed up exactly what I had said and
    proved you 100% wrong and all you did was snip and deny it and just
    powered on with your lies because your ego is so fragile that you
    can't admit you were wrong.

    What the fuck are you wittering about?

    You have forgotten already you demented old fool?

    You wouldn't know verifiable proof if it smacked you round your head.

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:09:20
    On 20/01/2026 9:51 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:23 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:31 pm, Noddy wrote:


    I've placed no such "onus" on anyone,

    FFS you have been quoted countless times suggesting those making the
    claims get to prove them.

    Indeed, and I've never argued against the idea.

    So you're just a lying hypocrite then exactly as I said.

    Just like you.

    Jesus wept...

    Exactly.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:09:59
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated*
    forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.


    Hey Detective Richo! Would it be 'hypocritical' to only interrogate one
    gang in a gang war?

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:12:24
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:20 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff with an independent motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first- electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with-one- motor- per- wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code as an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some GPS thing or something claiming that you were a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required and upload it. arduino programmed - simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you enable agreed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that claimed to be sooper speshal programmer because you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did it from scratch or some bullshit like that in one of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you were asked to provide some proof of your superior >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programming abilities what did keith do? Well he ran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even >>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes to the crunch you run away with your tail between >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the >>>>>>>>>>>>> distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - >>>>>>>>>>>> but when asked to produce some of your code that you claimed >>>>>>>>>>>> you wrote from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, >>>>>>>>>>>> you are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" >>>>>>>>>>> includes you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away >>>>>>>>>>> screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that >>>>>>>>>> claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a >>>>>>>>>> simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a
    demented circular argument just as you did last time your fool >>>>>>>>>> nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from >>>>>>>>>> your cult leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the >>>>>>>>>> topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", >>>>>>>>>> and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which >>>>>>>>>> people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be >>>>>>>>>> easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious
    question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a
    contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you >>>>>>>>>> consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and >>>>>>>>>> you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit". >>>>>>>>>>
    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here >>>>>>>>>> is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more >>>>>>>>>> conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that >>>>>>>> claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a
    simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a
    demented circular argument just as you did last time your fool >>>>>>>> nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from >>>>>>>> your cult leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the >>>>>>>> topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and >>>>>>>> given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which >>>>>>>> people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily >>>>>>>> tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious
    question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a
    contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are >>>>>>>> definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is >>>>>>>> to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more >>>>>>>> conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you >>>>>>> were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies and
    deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged to
    produce an example of your programming skills. End of story.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I >>>>>>> won't be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish
    imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes
    him.


    Keep running keith. Careful you don't trip over your cooked drunken
    slob mate on your way out...

    Another irrelevant smoke screen to cover up your inability to answer a
    simple question.

    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.


    Another irrelevant smoke screen to cover up your inability to answer a
    simple question.

    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to demands
    or threats.


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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:15:08
    On 20/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish
    imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did originally.

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo, you
    are all caught up in your own self righteousness.

    Go back to sleep dumbarse.



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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:17:43
    On 20/01/2026 10:09 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated*
    forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.


    Hey Detective Richo! Would it be 'hypocritical' to only interrogate one
    gang in a gang war?

    You and your mates are always banging on about proof, but your light on
    for it when it is asked of you. That is commonly known as hypocrisy.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:21:57
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 1:23 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 8:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*,

    That's not what you have claimed in the past, you definitely placed
    that onus on the claimants.

    It's clear English isn't your bag :)

    I've placed no such "onus" on anyone, and I invite you to cite any
    example where I have done so.

    Jaysus fookin' Christ!!!
    That's one of your most outrageous lies *ever* Fraudster. I've posted
    those quotes of yours so often that they're all worn and faded.

    Your position is that everyone should prove their claims or be thought
    of as a bullshit artist *except* when it comes to your claims. Oh no,
    everyone should just accept those as fact.

    No, that's your spin. I've never said anything of the kind,

    Arrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh! Again you frothing loon, proof of your gigantic
    hypocrisy of this has been posted more times than Xmas cards were circa
    1985.

    Theree is no point in reading the rest. He's finally lost his marbles,
    plot and contact with Reality.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 23:28:59
    On 20/1/2026 9:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:34 pm, lindsay wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:18 am, Xeno wrote:
    On 19/1/2026 11:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*, you stupid clog

    Then you clearly do not understand the concept of responsibility.

    ˙˙if you make a claim, in particular an affirmative assertion or one
    that challenges the status quo, the onus (burden of proof) is upon
    you to substantiate it if asked. This principle, rooted in logic and
    debate, dictates that the person asserting a proposition *must*
    provide sufficient evidence to support it, rather than requiring
    others to disprove it.

    The person making a claim (the proponent) bears the responsibility
    of providing evidence, often summarized by the Latin maxim onus
    probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat ("the burden of
    proof lies with the one who speaks, not the one who denies").

    Who's work have you stolen this lot from, shit-fer-brains?>>
    Hitchens' Razor is the principle, credited to writer Christopher
    Hitchens, that "what can be asserted without evidence can also be
    dismissed without evidence," meaning the burden of proof lies with
    the person making the claim, and unsupported assertions can be
    rejected without needing counter-evidence. It's a tool for critical
    thinking, applying the concept of skepticism to unfounded claims,
    especially in debates about religion or extraordinary ideas, by
    demanding proof from those who propose them.

    xeno trying to sound professorial, and only proving that anybody can
    google.

    And plagiarize.. Tomas the Teachers Arsehole is good at that. Ask him
    about DNA... Or London Smog...

    He's nothing more than a fucking thief. A lying big-noting loudmouthed
    fucking thief.

    Him attempting to dictate to anyone about providing support for claims
    is the height of hypocrisy :)


    Ahem, had you bothered to take a look, you might have noted the name, *Christopher Hitchens*. Sadly, he has passed but his work lives on. But
    you lot are little more than a bunch of ignorami so I doubt either the
    name or his works have ever created a rattle in your empty skulls.

    https://elizabethjpeterson.com/2021/10/hitchens-razor-and-the-burden-of-proof/

    I have here a couple of his books, fascinating reading - in particular "Hitch-22, a Memoir" - but I get that reading thoroughly taxes your
    collective brains - so you avoid it at all costs. Hence I am not in the
    least surprised that concepts such as truth, logic, decency, et al are unfamiliar to you.


    --
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    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 23:31:15
    On 20/01/2026 9:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 7:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    There is no concept of responsibility to be applied here, and there most >>
    Beg to differ! When you make a claim to be trade qualified, you are
    *legally obligated* to provide proof of said claim if contested.

    Perhaps you could point out the relevant legislation.

    There is no such legal obligation. He's making shit up as usual.

    When you make a claim to be trade qualified, but are indeed *not*
    qualified at all, you are committing *fraud* and, for, such there are
    legal consequences. You also claimed membership of the VACC. Doing so
    whilst not ever being a member is *also fraud*.

    Definition of fraud - wrongful or criminal deception intended to result
    in financial or personal gain.

    Can you prove financial or personal gain.

    Lol :)

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 23:33:07
    On 20/01/2026 9:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 4:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became
    *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    What for since you don't even have the integrity to consider the proof
    and respond to it an adult manner?

    I posted verifiable proof that backed up exactly what I had said and
    proved you 100% wrong and all you did was snip and deny it and just
    powered on with your lies because your ego is so fragile that you
    can't admit you were wrong.

    What the fuck are you wittering about?˙ Do you have some verifiable
    proof of him being expelled from all the other car forums or not?

    Of course he doesn't. He's taking a leaf out of his mental mate's book
    and talking out of his blurter.

    Must be something about the Dutch. They all seem to be full of shit.

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 23:33:43
    On 20/01/2026 8:35 pm, lindsay wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became *moderated*
    forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.


    Hahahahahaha˙ Well, Tomas?

    He's run away apparently :)



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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 23:39:16
    On 20/1/2026 11:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:32 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 7:47 pm, Xeno wrote:

    There is no concept of responsibility to be applied here, and there
    most

    Beg to differ! When you make a claim to be trade qualified, you are
    *legally obligated* to provide proof of said claim if contested.

    Perhaps you could point out the relevant legislation.

    There is no such legal obligation. He's making shit up as usual.

    When you make a claim to be trade qualified, but are indeed *not*
    qualified at all, you are committing *fraud* and, for, such there are
    legal consequences. You also claimed membership of the VACC. Doing so
    whilst not ever being a member is *also fraud*.

    Definition of fraud - wrongful or criminal deception intended to
    result in financial or personal gain.

    Can you prove financial or personal gain.

    Lol :)

    Note the word "intended" - as in you don't need to have financial gain,
    just the intent to defraud for said benefit. And that isn't hard to
    prove. You offered to bodge up Felix' exhaust for $100 after often
    claiming to be a qualified mechanic. I'd bet you had no public liability insurance on your registered business either. And, yes, you do have a
    legal obligation to provide proof of public liability insurance.

    You're a clown Darren, you back up Keith but his *evidence* proves me
    correct for your exact circumstance. He's an idiot - just like you.

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    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:44:28
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left
    specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

    John_H, felix & Fred to name three. Respectively, because he busted
    Fraudster lying plus his obsession with attacking Xeno, Fred and felix
    both tired of Fraudsters antics and cretinous abuse and said so.

    Now, if you haven't got anything useful to contribute I'd suggest that
    you find something else to do. Jigsaws perhaps?

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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 23:45:15
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:23 pm, Noddy wrote:

    FFS you have been quoted countless times suggesting those making the
    claims get to prove them.

    Indeed, and I've never argued against the idea.

    So you're just a lying hypocrite then exactly as I said.

    Jesus wept...

    You said no such thing, and *again* you seem to be completely incapable
    of appreciating the distinction between a voluntary and compulsory practice.

    For example,

    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to pay
    of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you insisted
    it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on you to prove
    your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However despite your
    claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?



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  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 23:49:21
    On 20/01/2026 10:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did originally.

    Whatever I may or may not have said about Keith in the past is
    completely irrelevant as far as me talking about you is concerned, so
    you can spare us the pathetic goalpost shifting.

    Go back to sleep dumbarse.

    Go fuck yourself you stupid Dutch cunt.


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 23:04:24
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:09 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became
    *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.


    Hey Detective Richo! Would it be 'hypocritical' to only interrogate
    one gang in a gang war?

    You and your mates are always banging on about proof, but your light on
    for it when it is asked of you.

    Really? Could you cite me for when I've refused to supply "proof"?

    That is commonly known as hypocrisy.

    Not until it's proven it's not.

    Anyhoo, you failed to answer my question. (Gasp! Shock horror!)


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:38:50
    On 20/01/2026 5:20 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 4:18 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:12 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 1:39 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 10:41 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

    We aren't talking about him, try and keep up.

    You might not be - but we are!

    He is the only thing that you're capable of talking about,
    anything else and you're totally out of your depth.

    You have to wonder what goes on in their fucked up heads if all
    they want to do around here is talk about me day after day.



    So you should be left to bullshit your brains out, tell lies about
    others and falsely attribute claims to other people without
    pushback, is that it?

    Even if that nonsense were true,

    It is true. Proven so countless times.

    what the *fuck* does it have to do with
    you? This is an unmoderated newsgroup, and much to your obvious
    displeasure no one went on holiday and left you in charge.


    "This is an unmoderated newsgroup"

    If you don't like having your glass jaw broken nobody is stopping you
    from leaving.

    You need to get the fuck over yourself, Junior. No one needs your
    permission to post around here :)


    "what the *fuck* does it have to do with
    ˙˙you?"

    he farted out moments earlier.

    I don't need *your* permission to post here, son.

    "This is an unmoderated newsgroup"

    Remember, you dumb cunt?

    <snip white noise in protest>

    Touched a nerve, did I clogwog? :)



    I snipped your red ranting son.



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    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:45:53
    On 20/01/2026 8:06 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:01 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:39 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is >>>>>>> lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about
    yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit >>>>>> of it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you? >>>>>>

    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.

    Buffo will be along soon to admit that he erred.

    Why don't you chatter among yourselves girls noone else can be bothered

    Can't you use AI or something to come up with something original? (You
    can continue with the inaccuracies till the AI gets sorted)

    You guy never come up with anything original, so why should put effort
    into doing so?

    You can't. You're one step away from playing with your own shit you
    deluded old man.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:46:41
    On 20/01/2026 6:28 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:14 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:39 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is >>>>>>> lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about
    yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single bit >>>>>> of it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you? >>>>>>

    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.

    Buffo will be along soon to admit that he erred.

    Why don't you chatter among yourselves girls noone else can be bothered


    Running away because you know you're done, again, as always.

    N


    Keep running keith...

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:49:49
    On 20/01/2026 8:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:52 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 4:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums. >>>>>> It's because of people like him that that they all became
    *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on
    about proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    What for since you don't even have the integrity to consider the
    proof and respond to it an adult manner?

    I posted verifiable proof that backed up exactly what I had said and
    proved you 100% wrong and all you did was snip and deny it and just
    powered on with your lies because your ego is so fragile that you
    can't admit you were wrong.

    What the fuck are you wittering about?

    You have forgotten already you demented old fool?

    You wouldn't know verifiable proof if it smacked you round your head.


    You're proved that when presented you either can't comprehend it or you stubbornly deny it. So are you demented or just a stubborn dishonest egotistical prick?


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 22:59:14
    On 20/01/2026 8:21 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 1:23 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 8:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 11:06 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

    Feel free to prove all that, Running Man.



    I don't have to, the onus is on you to prove your claims.

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*,

    That's not what you have claimed in the past, you definitely placed
    that onus on the claimants.

    It's clear English isn't your bag :)

    I've placed no such "onus" on anyone, and I invite you to cite any
    example where I have done so.

    Jaysus fookin' Christ!!!
    That's one of your most outrageous lies *ever* Fraudster. I've posted
    those quotes of yours so often that they're all worn and faded.

    Your position is that everyone should prove their claims or be
    thought of as a bullshit artist *except* when it comes to your
    claims. Oh no, everyone should just accept those as fact.

    No, that's your spin. I've never said anything of the kind,

    Arrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh! Again you frothing loon, proof of your gigantic hypocrisy of this has been posted more times than Xmas cards were circa 1985.

    Theree is no point in reading the rest. He's finally lost his marbles,
    plot and contact with Reality.


    He goes into full loon Trump mode when he's red raging and can't win.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 23:00:49
    On 20/01/2026 8:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:20 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff with an independent motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first- electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with-one- motor- per- wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code as an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some GPS thing or something claiming that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify if required and upload it. arduino programmed - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple. That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that claimed to be sooper speshal programmer because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you did it from scratch or some bullshit like that in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But when you were asked to provide some proof of your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior programming abilities what did keith do? Well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even comprehend my response so instead you just keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes to the crunch you run away with your tail between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - >>>>>>>>>>>>> but when asked to produce some of your code that you >>>>>>>>>>>>> claimed you wrote from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" >>>>>>>>>>>> includes you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran >>>>>>>>>>>> away screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made >>>>>>>>>>> that claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's >>>>>>>>>>> such a simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a >>>>>>>>>>> demented circular argument just as you did last time your >>>>>>>>>>> fool nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words >>>>>>>>>>> from your cult leader whom backed up what I had been saying >>>>>>>>>>> on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", >>>>>>>>>>> and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from >>>>>>>>>>> which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be >>>>>>>>>>> easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious >>>>>>>>>>> question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a >>>>>>>>>>> contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you >>>>>>>>>>> consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and >>>>>>>>>>> you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit". >>>>>>>>>>>
    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here >>>>>>>>>>> is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more >>>>>>>>>>> conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that >>>>>>>>> claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a >>>>>>>>> simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a
    demented circular argument just as you did last time your fool >>>>>>>>> nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from >>>>>>>>> your cult leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the >>>>>>>>> topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", >>>>>>>>> and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which >>>>>>>>> people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily >>>>>>>>> tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious
    question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a
    contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you >>>>>>>>> consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you >>>>>>>>> are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here >>>>>>>>> is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more >>>>>>>>> conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you >>>>>>>> were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies and >>>>>>> deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged to
    produce an example of your programming skills. End of story.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I >>>>>>>> won't be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish >>>>>> imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes >>>>> him.


    Keep running keith. Careful you don't trip over your cooked drunken
    slob mate on your way out...

    Another irrelevant smoke screen to cover up your inability to answer
    a simple question.

    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.


    Another

    Nope, provide a programming example Mr. "Programmer" or keep running.

    Those are your options.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 06:35:55
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:18 am, Xeno wrote:

    There is no "onus" on anyone to prove *anything*, you stupid clog

    Then you clearly do not understand the concept of responsibility.

    ˙˙if you make a claim, in particular an affirmative assertion or one
    that challenges the status quo, the onus (burden of proof) is upon
    you to substantiate it if asked. This principle, rooted in logic and
    debate, dictates that the person asserting a proposition *must*
    provide sufficient evidence to support it, rather than requiring
    others to disprove it.

    The person making a claim (the proponent) bears the responsibility of
    providing evidence, often summarized by the Latin maxim onus probandi
    incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat ("the burden of proof lies
    with the one who speaks, not the one who denies").

    Hitchens' Razor is the principle, credited to writer Christopher
    Hitchens, that "what can be asserted without evidence can also be
    dismissed without evidence," meaning the burden of proof lies with
    the person making the claim, and unsupported assertions can be
    rejected without needing counter-evidence. It's a tool for critical
    thinking, applying the concept of skepticism to unfounded claims,
    especially in debates about religion or extraordinary ideas, by
    demanding proof from those who propose them.

    xeno trying to sound professorial, and only proving that anybody can
    google.

    And be completely irrelevant in doing so.

    Not one word of his cut and pasted rambling does anything to suggest
    that there is an "onus" on *anyone* to prove anything to anyone else in
    an informal, unmoderated discussion group like this. This is *not* a
    court of law, and there is no obligation on anyone to do a thing. The
    choice of whether or not to believe lies with the listener, and
    regardless of whatever choice they make no one else has an obligation to satisfy them just because they may not like what they hear.

    There is no concept of responsibility to be applied here, and there most certainly does *not* need to be the display of hypocrisy we see here
    that comes from the person who has made more unfounded claims in this
    group than every other poster combined :)

    AI summary: Gibbens told a lot of lies.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 06:45:46
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 7:47 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 20/1/2026 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:18 am, Xeno wrote:


    And be completely irrelevant in doing so.

    Not one word of his cut and pasted rambling does anything to suggest
    that there is an "onus" on *anyone* to prove anything to anyone else
    in an informal, unmoderated discussion group like this. This is *not*
    a court of law, and there is no obligation on anyone to do a thing.
    The choice of whether or not to believe lies with the listener, and
    regardless of whatever choice they make no one else has an obligation
    to satisfy them just because they may not like what they hear.

    There is no concept of responsibility to be applied here, and there most >>
    Beg to differ! When you make a claim to be trade qualified, you are
    *legally obligated* to provide proof of said claim if contested.

    Perhaps you could point out the relevant legislation.

    When you make a claim to be trade qualified, but are indeed *not*
    qualified at all, you are committing *fraud* and, for, such there are
    legal consequences. You also claimed membership of the VACC. Doing so
    whilst not ever being a member is *also fraud*.

    Definition of fraud - wrongful or criminal deception intended to result
    in financial or personal gain.

    No source eh Ritcho. Typical.

    Now here's Merriam-Webster;
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fraud

    hth

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 06:51:20
    Noddy wrote:


    Him attempting to dictate to anyone about providing support for claims
    is the height of hypocrisy :)


    Hint: Steer clear of using "height" Fraudster. ***EVERYONE*** knows that you're unreliable with it...

    hth



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 07:00:02
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to pay
    of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you insisted
    it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on you to prove
    your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However despite your
    claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 07:04:12
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    One of them is a bad option. Any Tom, Dick or Keith could cut'n'paste
    from a zillion sites and claim it as theirs.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 07:07:05
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to demands
    or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 07:11:43
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish
    imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes
    him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did originally.

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,

    Wrong. Badly. But still hilarious.

    you are all caught up in your own self righteousness.

    Wrong again. By exactly 180 degrees.
    Plod on.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 07:17:52
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did originally.

    Whatever I may or may not have said about Keith in the past is
    completely irrelevant as far as me talking about you is concerned, so
    you can spare us the pathetic goalpost shifting.

    Don't stop at Richo Fraudster! Almost everything you say is "irrelevant"...

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 10:44:00
    On 20-Jan-26 10:40 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:20 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff with an independent motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first- electric- m- car- is- coming-in-2027- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with-one- motor- per- wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call themselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professional programmer or "Software engineer" as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code as an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some GPS thing or something claiming that you were a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenged you to prove that you could.

    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, modify if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required and upload it. arduino programmed - simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you enable agreed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that claimed to be sooper speshal programmer because you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did it from scratch or some bullshit like that in one of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. But when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you were asked to provide some proof of your superior >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programming abilities what did keith do? Well he ran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't even >>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehend my response so instead you just keep lying and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes to the crunch you run away with your tail between >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular.

    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the >>>>>>>>>>>>> distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar.

    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were - >>>>>>>>>>>> but when asked to produce some of your code that you claimed >>>>>>>>>>>> you wrote from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, >>>>>>>>>>>> you are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" >>>>>>>>>>> includes you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran away >>>>>>>>>>> screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that >>>>>>>>>> claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a >>>>>>>>>> simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a
    demented circular argument just as you did last time your fool >>>>>>>>>> nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from >>>>>>>>>> your cult leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the >>>>>>>>>> topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", >>>>>>>>>> and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which >>>>>>>>>> people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be >>>>>>>>>> easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious
    question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a
    contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you >>>>>>>>>> consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and >>>>>>>>>> you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit". >>>>>>>>>>
    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here >>>>>>>>>> is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more >>>>>>>>>> conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that >>>>>>>> claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a
    simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a
    demented circular argument just as you did last time your fool >>>>>>>> nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from >>>>>>>> your cult leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the >>>>>>>> topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", and >>>>>>>> given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which >>>>>>>> people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be easily >>>>>>>> tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious
    question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a
    contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you
    consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and you are >>>>>>>> definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit".

    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here is >>>>>>>> to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more >>>>>>>> conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you >>>>>>> were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies and
    deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged to
    produce an example of your programming skills. End of story.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz I >>>>>>> won't be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish
    imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes
    him.


    Keep running keith. Careful you don't trip over your cooked drunken
    slob mate on your way out...

    Another irrelevant smoke screen to cover up your inability to answer a
    simple question.

    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    *Those are your options* WTF?..:):):)

    Judging By the written version of yer 'tone of speech' in all yer posts
    I`d say with some certainty that you were bullied in yer childhood/youth!.
    Nearly *Everything* you say in here (And probably elsewhere) is a *putdown* in one form or another. Just can`t accept that you maybe/are *wrong*. All part of getting yer arse kicked all over the countryside
    back then Eh?.
    Typical 'keyboard warrior'. In fact, apropos of a dog barking at
    another dog, behind a closed gate!!. All good, Until the gate is
    *opened*!. You should keep that in mind!. ;)



    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 10:52:06
    On 20-Jan-26 10:49 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish
    imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did originally.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    *That* comment says more about *you* than yer *target*...Think about it brainiac!.

    Go back to sleep dumbarse.



    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 11:07:25
    On 21-Jan-26 1:49 AM, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:52 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 4:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car
    forums. It's because of people like him that that they all became >>>>>>> *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on
    about proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    What for since you don't even have the integrity to consider the
    proof and respond to it an adult manner?

    I posted verifiable proof that backed up exactly what I had said
    and proved you 100% wrong and all you did was snip and deny it and
    just powered on with your lies because your ego is so fragile that
    you can't admit you were wrong.

    What the fuck are you wittering about?

    You have forgotten already you demented old fool?

    You wouldn't know verifiable proof if it smacked you round your head.


    You're proved that when presented you either can't comprehend it or you stubbornly deny it. So are you demented or just a stubborn dishonest egotistical prick?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Now, *that* wee utterance is a completely *valid, gold star 'NO
    YOU'.*! :):):)








    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 11:19:25
    On 20-Jan-26 10:51 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:23 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:31 pm, Noddy wrote:


    I've placed no such "onus" on anyone,

    FFS you have been quoted countless times suggesting those making the
    claims get to prove them.

    Indeed, and I've never argued against the idea.

    So you're just a lying hypocrite then exactly as I said.

    Jesus wept...

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    He prolly would if he was having to put up with yer incessant snippage
    and context changing attempts.




    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 11:41:59
    On 21/01/2026 5:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to pay
    of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on
    you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However
    despite your claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    I'm more interested in why would I have to prove a statement he made up
    in the first place.

    It's not my problem that he has comprehension issues and is a habitual liar.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 11:44:49
    On 21/01/2026 5:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to
    demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky




    The real reason.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 11:59:31
    On 20/01/2026 8:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish
    imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes
    him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did originally.

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo, you
    are all caught up in your own self righteousness.


    That's laughably incorrect. But answer me this dipshit, you insist I
    should have spoken English at age 9 yet *all* the evidence presented
    backs up why that was not the case in the 70's - not until 1985 and only
    then in upper primary - so you were clearly 100% wrong.

    So, instead of accepting the evidence that as late as the 90's there
    were not even 40 primary schools out of 1700 odd teaching English at the
    start of primary school *from the Dutch education department itself* you
    still insist I should have spoken English at year 9 Mr. "Self-righteous"?

    If you're just going to ignore all the evidence from every verifiable
    source and my personal experience which is backed up by that very
    evidence and stick with your own version of anecdotal bullshit, why
    should anyone take you seriously?

    Your ego is so massive that it won't allow you to say "oops I was wrong"
    to the point where you would rather destroy any integrity you might have
    had rather than admit you fucked up.

    You (and your tag-along clueless gimp) were proven 100% wrong...

    Go back to sleep dumbarse.




    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 12:07:15
    On 20/01/2026 8:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did originally.

    Whatever I may or may not have said about Keith in the past is
    completely irrelevant

    It's 100% relevant to the conversation. You did a complete 180 in your
    fit of red rage.

    as far as me talking about you is concerned, so
    you can spare us the pathetic goalpost shifting.


    You flipped your script in your red rant because you forgot you
    originally leveled those criticism at keith, not me you profoundly
    stupid man.

    Go back to sleep dumbarse.

    Go fuck yourself you stupid Dutch cunt.


    Go back to sleep dumbarse.


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 12:31:54
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    One of them is a bad option. Any Tom, Dick or Keith could cut'n'paste
    from a zillion sites and claim it as theirs.


    Likely what he did in the first place, like everyone else who programs
    an Arduino with existing libraries and code examples that can easily be modified to suit a particular project as I had described. He just can't
    admit to having done exactly that because he claimed to be a more
    'sooper speshal much betterer' programmer than anyone else.

    If he posted his code it should be relatively easy to verify and of
    course he realised this so he ran away with his tail between his legs.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 15:44:06
    On 21-Jan-26 2:41 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to
    pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on
    you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However
    despite your claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    I'm more interested in why would I have to prove a statement he made up
    in the first place.

    It's not my problem that he has comprehension issues and is a habitual
    liar.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    yOU HAVE *PROBLEMS* alright, and should take ownership!.





    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:04:20
    On 21-Jan-26 3:31 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    One of them is a bad option. Any Tom, Dick or Keith could cut'n'paste
    from a zillion sites and claim it as theirs.


    Likely what he did in the first place, like everyone else who programs
    an Arduino with existing libraries and code examples that can easily be modified to suit a particular project as I had described. He just can't admit to having done exactly that because he claimed to be a more
    'sooper speshal much betterer' programmer than anyone else.

    If he posted his code it should be relatively easy to verify and of
    course he realised this so he ran away with his tail between his legs.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    He`s not *run* anywhere motormouth, he offered this:

    "If you want some sample
    code then ask nicely, I don't respond to demands or threats".

    Of course *you* came back with this:

    "Or when it gets tricky"

    Nothing *tricky* there!. He made the offer..
    however, *you* by using those words have, as per, scuttled off into yer rathole.. A bird? a plane?, nah just wally doin' a runner. <SHRUG>




    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 15:30:57
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    One of them is a bad option. Any Tom, Dick or Keith could cut'n'paste
    from a zillion sites and claim it as theirs.


    Likely what he did in the first place, like everyone else who programs
    an Arduino with existing libraries and code examples that can easily be modified to suit a particular project as I had described. He just can't admit to having done exactly that because he claimed to be a more
    'sooper speshal much betterer' programmer than anyone else.

    Yeah well I have my doubts about those claims.

    If he posted his code it should be relatively easy to verify and of
    course he realised this so he ran away with his tail between his legs.

    It's a tad early to make that call, but one can always hope...


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 15:40:08
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish >>>>>> imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes >>>>> him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did
    originally.

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,
    you are all caught up in your own self righteousness.


    That's laughably incorrect. But answer me this dipshit, you insist I
    should have spoken English at age 9 yet *all* the evidence presented
    backs up why that was not the case in the 70's - not until 1985 and only then in upper primary - so you were clearly 100% wrong.

    So, instead of accepting the evidence that as late as the 90's there
    were not even 40 primary schools out of 1700 odd teaching English at the start of primary school *from the Dutch education department itself* you still insist I should have spoken English at year 9 Mr. "Self-righteous"?

    If you're just going to ignore all the evidence from every verifiable
    source and my personal experience which is backed up by that very
    evidence and stick with your own version of anecdotal bullshit, why
    should anyone take you seriously?

    Your ego is so massive that it won't allow you to say "oops I was wrong"
    to the point where you would rather destroy any integrity you might have
    had rather than admit you fucked up.

    You (and your tag-along clueless gimp) were proven 100% wrong...

    Frankly m'dear, it's astonishing that Fraudster & Ritcho accuse anyone
    else of having an outsized ego. It's like Trump accusing someone of
    being a power-crazed and egomaniacal lunatic.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:04:44
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to pay
    of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on
    you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However
    despite your claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have demanded.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:06:48
    On 20/01/2026 11:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:09 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became
    *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on
    about proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.


    Hey Detective Richo! Would it be 'hypocritical' to only interrogate
    one gang in a gang war?

    You and your mates are always banging on about proof, but your light
    on for it when it is asked of you.

    Really? Could you cite me for when I've refused to supply "proof"?

    That is commonly known as hypocrisy.

    Not until it's proven it's not.

    Anyhoo, you failed to answer my question. (Gasp! Shock horror!)

    Oh dear, I am devastated, did I not answer one of your many questions? I
    might consider it if you ever answered any.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:07:57
    On 21/01/2026 12:49 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:52 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 4:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car
    forums. It's because of people like him that that they all became >>>>>>> *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on
    about proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    What for since you don't even have the integrity to consider the
    proof and respond to it an adult manner?

    I posted verifiable proof that backed up exactly what I had said
    and proved you 100% wrong and all you did was snip and deny it and
    just powered on with your lies because your ego is so fragile that
    you can't admit you were wrong.

    What the fuck are you wittering about?

    You have forgotten already you demented old fool?

    You wouldn't know verifiable proof if it smacked you round your head.


    You're proved that when presented you either can't comprehend it or you stubbornly deny it. So are you demented or just a stubborn dishonest egotistical prick?


    Same boring shit from the same liar and hypocrite.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:10:41
    On 21/01/2026 12:45 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:06 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:01 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:39 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is >>>>>>>> lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about >>>>>>> yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single
    bit of it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you? >>>>>>>

    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.

    Buffo will be along soon to admit that he erred.

    Why don't you chatter among yourselves girls noone else can be bothered >>>
    Can't you use AI or something to come up with something original?
    (You can continue with the inaccuracies till the AI gets sorted)

    You guy never come up with anything original, so why should put effort
    into doing so?

    You can't. You're one step away from playing with your own shit you
    deluded old man.

    <yawn>

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:11:06
    On 21/01/2026 12:46 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:28 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:14 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:39 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    I worked for

    So you claim.

    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is >>>>>>>> lying."

    Remember?

    I see. So, by that logic everything you have ever claimed about >>>>>>> yourself is bullshit given that you have never proven a single
    bit of it.


    It's keith's quote, stupid.

    See how stupid you look when your own porridge is fed back to you? >>>>>>>

    It's keith's porridge being fed back to him, stupid.

    Buffo will be along soon to admit that he erred.

    Why don't you chatter among yourselves girls noone else can be bothered >>>

    Running away because you know you're done, again, as always.

    N


    Keep running keith...

    <yawn>

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:12:58
    On 20/01/2026 10:44 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left
    specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

    John_H, felix & Fred to name three. Respectively, because he busted Fraudster lying plus his obsession with attacking Xeno, Fred and felix
    both tired of Fraudsters antics and cretinous abuse and said so.

    Now, if you haven't got anything useful to contribute I'd suggest that
    you find something else to do. Jigsaws perhaps?

    So, what proof have you that that is the reason that they left?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:18:30
    On 21/01/2026 1:00 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:20 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff with an independent motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first- electric- m- car- is- coming- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in-2027- with-one- motor- per- wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would cause >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it fucks up :)

    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem.

    Not surprising when any witless, illogical and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified fool, like you, can call >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves a "programmer".

    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a professional programmer or "Software engineer" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the company called us.

    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code as an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some GPS thing or something claiming that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I challenged you to prove that you could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify if required and upload it. arduino programmed - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple. That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was *you* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that claimed to be sooper speshal programmer because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you did it from scratch or some bullshit like that in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of your typical hyper-inflated egotistical wanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But when you were asked to provide some proof of your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior programming abilities what did keith do? Well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he ran away of course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even comprehend my response so instead you just keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and when it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes to the crunch you run away with your tail between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - but when asked to produce some of your code that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claimed you wrote from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably "Anybody" >>>>>>>>>>>>> includes you, but when you were put on the spot, you ran >>>>>>>>>>>>> away screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made >>>>>>>>>>>> that claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's >>>>>>>>>>>> such a simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a >>>>>>>>>>>> demented circular argument just as you did last time your >>>>>>>>>>>> fool nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the >>>>>>>>>>>> words from your cult leader whom backed up what I had been >>>>>>>>>>>> saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy >>>>>>>>>>>> posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", >>>>>>>>>>>> and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from >>>>>>>>>>>> which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be >>>>>>>>>>>> easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious >>>>>>>>>>>> question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a >>>>>>>>>>>> contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you >>>>>>>>>>>> consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and >>>>>>>>>>>> you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit". >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving >>>>>>>>>>>> here is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any >>>>>>>>>>>> more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made that >>>>>>>>>> claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's such a >>>>>>>>>> simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a
    demented circular argument just as you did last time your fool >>>>>>>>>> nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words from >>>>>>>>>> your cult leader whom backed up what I had been saying on the >>>>>>>>>> topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", >>>>>>>>>> and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from which >>>>>>>>>> people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be >>>>>>>>>> easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious
    question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a
    contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you >>>>>>>>>> consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and >>>>>>>>>> you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit". >>>>>>>>>>
    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here >>>>>>>>>> is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more >>>>>>>>>> conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when you >>>>>>>>> were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies and >>>>>>>> deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged to
    produce an example of your programming skills. End of story.

    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz >>>>>>>>> I won't be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you
    childish imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody"
    includes him.


    Keep running keith. Careful you don't trip over your cooked drunken >>>>> slob mate on your way out...

    Another irrelevant smoke screen to cover up your inability to answer
    a simple question.

    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.


    Another

    Nope, provide a programming example Mr. "Programmer" or keep running.

    Those are your options.

    ROTFL, you really are a very arrogant little person aren't you?


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:20:07
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to
    demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back when you
    can ask politely.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:25:56
    On 21/01/2026 7:11 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish >>>>>> imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes >>>>> him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did
    originally.

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,

    Wrong. Badly. But still hilarious.

    you are all caught up in your own self righteousne

    ss.

    Wrong again. By exactly 180 degrees.

    Obviously you have a huge ego, together with lots of denial, there is
    probably a psychiatric treatment for your condition. You should take it
    post haste.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:27:26
    On 21/01/2026 1:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you childish >>>>>> imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody" includes >>>>> him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did
    originally.

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,
    you are all caught up in your own self righteousness.


    That's laughably incorrect. But answer me this dipshit, you insist I
    should have spoken English at age 9 yet *all* the evidence presented
    backs up why that was not the case in the 70's - not until 1985 and only then in upper primary - so you were clearly 100% wrong.

    So, instead of accepting the evidence that as late as the 90's there
    were not even 40 primary schools out of 1700 odd teaching English at the start of primary school *from the Dutch education department itself* you still insist I should have spoken English at year 9 Mr. "Self-righteous"?

    If you're just going to ignore all the evidence from every verifiable
    source and my personal experience which is backed up by that very
    evidence and stick with your own version of anecdotal bullshit, why
    should anyone take you seriously?

    Your ego is so massive that it won't allow you to say "oops I was wrong"
    to the point where you would rather destroy any integrity you might have
    had rather than admit you fucked up.

    You (and your tag-along clueless gimp) were proven 100% wrong...

    Go back to sleep dumbarse.

    <yawn> You really should get some anger management counseling.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:28:27
    On 21/01/2026 3:40 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you
    childish imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody"
    includes him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his
    ego is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did
    originally.

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,
    you are all caught up in your own self righteousness.


    That's laughably incorrect. But answer me this dipshit, you insist I
    should have spoken English at age 9 yet *all* the evidence presented
    backs up why that was not the case in the 70's - not until 1985 and
    only then in upper primary - so you were clearly 100% wrong.

    So, instead of accepting the evidence that as late as the 90's there
    were not even 40 primary schools out of 1700 odd teaching English at
    the start of primary school *from the Dutch education department
    itself* you still insist I should have spoken English at year 9 Mr.
    "Self-righteous"?

    If you're just going to ignore all the evidence from every verifiable
    source and my personal experience which is backed up by that very
    evidence and stick with your own version of anecdotal bullshit, why
    should anyone take you seriously?

    Your ego is so massive that it won't allow you to say "oops I was
    wrong" to the point where you would rather destroy any integrity you
    might have had rather than admit you fucked up.

    You (and your tag-along clueless gimp) were proven 100% wrong...

    Frankly m'dear, it's astonishing that Fraudster & Ritcho accuse anyone
    else of having an outsized ego. It's like Trump accusing someone of
    being a power-crazed and egomaniacal lunatic.

    Still in denial alvo?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 14:29:28
    On 21/01/2026 1:30 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    One of them is a bad option. Any Tom, Dick or Keith could cut'n'paste
    from a zillion sites and claim it as theirs.


    Likely what he did in the first place, like everyone else who programs
    an Arduino with existing libraries and code examples that can easily
    be modified to suit a particular project as I had described. He just
    can't admit to having done exactly that because he claimed to be a
    more 'sooper speshal much betterer' programmer than anyone else.

    Yeah well I have my doubts about those claims.

    If he posted his code it should be relatively easy to verify and of
    course he realised this so he ran away with his tail between his legs.

    It's a tad early to make that call, but one can always hope...



    Well he might, but it should a no-brainer to determine if his code
    compiles and what libraries it uses if he does.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:30:18
    On 21/01/2026 2:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his ego
    is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did
    originally.

    Whatever I may or may not have said about Keith in the past is
    completely irrelevant

    It's 100% relevant to the conversation. You did a complete 180 in your
    fit of red rage.

    ˙as far as me talking about you is concerned, so
    you can spare us the pathetic goalpost shifting.


    You flipped your script in your red rant because you forgot you
    originally leveled those criticism at keith, not me you profoundly
    stupid man.

    Go back to sleep dumbarse.

    Go fuck yourself you stupid Dutch cunt.


    Go back to sleep dumbarse.

    "Red rage" congratulations that's the first new thing that you've come
    up with in years.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 14:33:29
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to
    demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back when you
    can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like it's
    confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 14:35:03
    On 21/01/2026 2:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 1:00 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:20 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting stuff with an independent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motor per wheel.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/bmws- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first- electric- m- car- is- coming- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in-2027- with-one- motor- per- wheel/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can just imagine the mess it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of programmers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not mechanics :)


    That's *is* the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not surprising when any witless, illogical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and unqualified fool, like you, can call >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a professional programmer or "Software >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engineer" as the company called us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code as an example when asked.

    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some GPS thing or something claiming that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I challenged you to prove that you could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify if required and upload it. arduino programmed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - simple. That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* that claimed to be sooper speshal programmer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because you did it from scratch or some bullshit like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that in one of your typical hyper-inflated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> egotistical wanks. But when you were asked to provide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some proof of your superior programming abilities >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what did keith do? Well he ran away of course, as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even comprehend my response so instead you just keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why that is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it comes to the crunch you run away with your tail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - but when asked to produce some of your code that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claimed you wrote from scratch you ran away.

    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unproven, you are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Anybody" includes you, but when you were put on the spot, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you ran away screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made >>>>>>>>>>>>> that claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's >>>>>>>>>>>>> such a simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> demented circular argument just as you did last time your >>>>>>>>>>>>> fool nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the >>>>>>>>>>>>> words from your cult leader whom backed up what I had been >>>>>>>>>>>>> saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy >>>>>>>>>>>>> posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from
    scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from >>>>>>>>>>>>> which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be >>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious >>>>>>>>>>>>> question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a >>>>>>>>>>>>> contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that >>>>>>>>>>>>> you consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit". >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving >>>>>>>>>>>>> here is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any >>>>>>>>>>>>> more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made >>>>>>>>>>> that claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's >>>>>>>>>>> such a simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a >>>>>>>>>>> demented circular argument just as you did last time your >>>>>>>>>>> fool nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the words >>>>>>>>>>> from your cult leader whom backed up what I had been saying >>>>>>>>>>> on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy posted; >>>>>>>>>>>
    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", >>>>>>>>>>> and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from >>>>>>>>>>> which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be >>>>>>>>>>> easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious >>>>>>>>>>> question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a >>>>>>>>>>> contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you >>>>>>>>>>> consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and >>>>>>>>>>> you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit". >>>>>>>>>>>
    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving here >>>>>>>>>>> is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any more >>>>>>>>>>> conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when >>>>>>>>>> you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies >>>>>>>>> and deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged >>>>>>>>> to produce an example of your programming skills. End of story. >>>>>>>>>
    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, coz >>>>>>>>>> I won't be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you
    childish imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody"
    includes him.


    Keep running keith. Careful you don't trip over your cooked
    drunken slob mate on your way out...

    Another irrelevant smoke screen to cover up your inability to
    answer a simple question.

    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.


    Another

    Nope, provide a programming example Mr. "Programmer" or keep running.

    Those are your options.

    ROTFL, you really are a very arrogant little person aren't you?


    You made the claim to be the superior programmer around here, you get to
    prove it running man.

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 14:41:32
    On 21/01/2026 2:30 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his
    ego is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did
    originally.

    Whatever I may or may not have said about Keith in the past is
    completely irrelevant

    It's 100% relevant to the conversation. You did a complete 180 in your
    fit of red rage.

    ˙˙as far as me talking about you is concerned, so
    you can spare us the pathetic goalpost shifting.


    You flipped your script in your red rant because you forgot you
    originally leveled those criticism at keith, not me you profoundly
    stupid man.

    Go back to sleep dumbarse.

    Go fuck yourself you stupid Dutch cunt.


    Go back to sleep dumbarse.

    "Red rage" congratulations that's the first new thing that you've come
    up with in years.



    That's still one more than you have ever come up with *and* it's
    especially appropriate.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 17:54:03
    On 21-Jan-26 5:25 PM, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:11 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon.
    Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you
    childish imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody"
    includes him.

    That's the least of this problems. His biggest issue is that his
    ego is not supported by his character.




    If you actually weren't such a dumbarse and you were consistent with
    your opinions you would be saying that about keith as you did
    originally.

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,

    Wrong. Badly. But still hilarious.

    you are all caught up in your own self righteousne

    ss.

    Wrong again. By exactly 180 degrees.

    Obviously you have a huge ego, together with lots of denial, there is probably a psychiatric treatment for your condition. You should take it
    post haste.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    A lot of its bullshit reeks of 'small Mans Disease'!. Part of its
    problems I guess.. (Elevator shoes maybe???. A step in the upper
    direction.?? :))




    --
    Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea--Massive,
    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 18:30:07
    On 21/01/2026 5:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:44 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left
    specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

    John_H, felix & Fred to name three. Respectively, because he busted
    Fraudster lying plus his obsession with attacking Xeno, Fred and felix
    both tired of Fraudsters antics and cretinous abuse and said so.

    Now, if you haven't got anything useful to contribute I'd suggest that
    you find something else to do. Jigsaws perhaps?

    So, what proof have you that that is the reason that they left?

    None, and he's talking utter nonsense if he thinks I'm responsible.
    John_H couldn't have given a flying fuck about anything I had to say,
    Felix left for the 19th time after making a total fuckwit of himself for
    the 19th time, and for all anyone knows about Fred is he snuffed it.

    If there's been anyone who's done more damage here than anyone else it's
    that fucking mental case ex teacher, but his two loyal arse lickers will
    never accept that.

    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 18:31:54
    On 21/01/2026 2:41 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:00 am, alvey wrote:

    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to
    pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on
    you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However
    despite your claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    I'm more interested in why would I have to prove a statement he made up
    in the first place.

    It's not my problem that he has comprehension issues and is a habitual
    liar.

    We've been over this before enough times now. Your words were abundantly clear. If you choose to deny them now then the most plausible reason for
    that is because you were talking shit at the time.

    Case closed.



    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 18:33:11
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to
    pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on
    you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However
    despite your claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have demanded.

    Yep. Pretty simple actually. Yet despite all the noise these clowns make
    about how everything must be proved, they're incredibly short when it
    comes to their own stuff :)

    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 18:46:55
    On 21/01/2026 2:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,
    you are all caught up in your own self righteousness.


    That's laughably incorrect. But answer me this dipshit, you insist I
    should have spoken English at age 9 yet *all* the evidence presented
    backs up why that was not the case in the 70's - not until 1985 and only then in upper primary - so you were clearly 100% wrong.

    There was *no* evidence presented to support your claim, you retard. On
    the contrary, it was shown that English was a common language in
    clogland even back in your "day" (which itself was bullshit), making it
    highly inlikely that you could come here as a 9 year old in the "1970's"
    not speaking a word.

    And while we're on that subject, you were born in 1973, yes?

    In days gone by before you developed your love of secrecy about your
    past, you'd stated a few times that you were almost exactly 10 years
    younger than I am. I just had my 63rd birthday a couple of weeks ago, so
    that would put your birth year around 1973.

    You have also stated that you did your apprenticeship for a French car specialist between 1988 and 1992, which would tie in just nicely with
    someone born in '73 as they'd be 15 years old at the time. Legally able
    to leave school and start their training.

    So assuming all that is correct, how do you figure that you came here as
    a 9 year old in the 70's when if what I've mentioned here is accurate
    you wouldn't have been 9 until 1982?

    Please. Take a moment to explain how you either lied about coming here
    as a 9 year old in the 1970's, or how you're about to start lying about
    it now...










    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 18:50:05
    On 21/01/2026 3:07 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:49 pm, Noddy wrote:


    Whatever I may or may not have said about Keith in the past is
    completely irrelevant

    It's 100% relevant to the conversation. You did a complete 180 in your
    fit of red rage.

    ˙as far as me talking about you is concerned, so
    you can spare us the pathetic goalpost shifting.

    *Again* for the non English speaking clog wearing cunts, anything I may
    have said about anyone else is irrelevant as far comments I make aimed directly at you are concerned.



    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 18:50:21
    On 21/1/2026 6:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:44 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left
    specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

    John_H, felix & Fred to name three. Respectively, because he busted
    Fraudster lying plus his obsession with attacking Xeno, Fred and
    felix both tired of Fraudsters antics and cretinous abuse and said so.

    Now, if you haven't got anything useful to contribute I'd suggest
    that you find something else to do. Jigsaws perhaps?

    So, what proof have you that that is the reason that they left?

    None, and he's talking utter nonsense if he thinks I'm responsible.
    John_H couldn't have given a flying fuck about anything I had to say,
    Felix left for the 19th time after making a total fuckwit of himself for
    the 19th time, and for all anyone knows about Fred is he snuffed it.

    If there's been anyone who's done more damage here than anyone else it's that fucking mental case ex teacher, but his two loyal arse lickers will never accept that.

    Aw gee, and all we did was expose you for the liar you are.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Noddy@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 18:51:04
    On 20/01/2026 8:39 pm, lindsay wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 7:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 20/1/2026 5:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums.
    It's because of people like him that that they all became
    *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on about
    proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.

    Yeah, Darren's own words that he doesn't post on other forums.

    That doesn't mean he's been "expelled", shit-fer-brains.

    More of his incessant bullshit. I never said I don't post in other
    forums. I said I don't post in other newsgroups. I've posted in many
    other forums, but these days it's mostly in Facebook groups.

    He's either too fucking stupid to appreciate the difference, or just
    doing his usual trick of inventing a fake comment to argue against.

    ˙I know
    why, he's a forum poisoner.

    I seem to remember you fucked 7 threads in 7 days here, and also had a
    hand in 3 of the last 5?

    You gold plated liar and hypocrite...

    He has the Midas touch in reverse in that everything he gets involved
    with turns to shit. This is the cretin who once proudly claimed that he
    had to take his Ipad with him when he went out to dinner, as his own
    wife wouldn't talk to him.


    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 17:57:57
    On 21/01/2026 5:50 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 21/1/2026 6:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:44 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left
    specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

    John_H, felix & Fred to name three. Respectively, because he busted
    Fraudster lying plus his obsession with attacking Xeno, Fred and
    felix both tired of Fraudsters antics and cretinous abuse and said so. >>>>
    Now, if you haven't got anything useful to contribute I'd suggest
    that you find something else to do. Jigsaws perhaps?

    So, what proof have you that that is the reason that they left?

    None, and he's talking utter nonsense if he thinks I'm responsible.
    John_H couldn't have given a flying fuck about anything I had to say,
    Felix left for the 19th time after making a total fuckwit of himself
    for the 19th time, and for all anyone knows about Fred is he snuffed it.

    If there's been anyone who's done more damage here than anyone else
    it's that fucking mental case ex teacher, but his two loyal arse
    lickers will never accept that.

    Aw gee, and all we did was expose you for the liar you are.

    All you did was to bore these people stupid, so they left.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 18:01:08
    On 21/01/2026 4:35 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:18 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 1:00 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 5:20 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 2:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:42 am, jonz wrote:
    On 19-Jan-26 11:13 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 6:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 5:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 2:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:16 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 7:46 am, keithr0 wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 3:40 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 3:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 9:44 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 8:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 12:38 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2026 10:07 pm, Clocky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2026 5:54 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2026 6:00 pm, Clocky wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/01/2026 4:10 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 12:16 pm, alvey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clocky wrote:
    On 15/01/2026 6:35 am, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:48 pm, Noddy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2026 10:31 pm, keithr0 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suppose that they could do some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting stuff with an independent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motor per wheel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/01/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmws- first- electric- m- car- is- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming- in-2027- with-one- motor- per- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheel/

    You can just imagine the mess it would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause if it fucks up :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No problem, it's in the hands of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programmers not mechanics :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That's *is* the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not surprising when any witless, illogical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and unqualified fool, like you, can call >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves a "programmer". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Pardon? I don't recall Richo claiming to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "programmer". What was the actual claim? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For the last 15 years of my career, I worked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a professional programmer or "Software >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engineer" as the company called us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What language?


    Bullshit+ by the looks of it.

    You'll note he's never provided a single line of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code as an example when asked. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    When did you ask?

    When you were crapping on about how you wrote code >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some GPS thing or something claiming that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were a "real" programmer.

    I asked for the code and you ran away, as per usual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cite? You were claiming that anybody could do it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I challenged you to prove that you could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I said anyone can program an Arduino you lying prick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and anyone can program an Arduino. Take some code, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify if required and upload it. arduino programmed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - simple. That proves nothing. Even that fuckwit you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enable agreed.

    You left skid marks for a hundred metres down the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> road in your haste to leave.


    I never claimed to be a programmer - I said anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can program an Arduino and that is a fact - it was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* that claimed to be sooper speshal programmer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because you did it from scratch or some bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that in one of your typical hyper-inflated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> egotistical wanks. But when you were asked to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide some proof of your superior programming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abilities what did keith do? Well he ran away of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, as always.

    My we are an angry person aren't we?

    Facts made you look dishonest and evidently you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even comprehend my response so instead you just keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lying and evading.

    Still no code though and I think it's pretty obvious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why that is JD Richo... you're all piss and wind and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it comes to the crunch you run away with your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tail between your legs. Always.


    You said anybody could do it,

    Of course they can. That's why they are so popular. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    ˙˙but, when put on the spot, you couldn't
    and out-accelerated an F1 car as you disappeared into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the distance demonstrating that you are a cowardly liar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I wasn't the one calling myself a "programmer" - you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were - but when asked to produce some of your code that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you claimed you wrote from scratch you ran away. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unproven, you are lying.

    You asserted that anybody could do it. Presumably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Anybody" includes you, but when you were put on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spot, you ran away screaming.


    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> demented circular argument just as you did last time your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fool nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> words from your cult leader whom backed up what I had been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scratch", and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious >>>>>>>>>>>>>> question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving >>>>>>>>>>>>>> here is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    There you go "fruitcake".

    Lots of words, no relevance.


    100% relevant.

    You asserted that anybody could do it.

    Yep. Fact.

    You call yourself a programmer, not me. I have never made >>>>>>>>>>>> that claim, but I've certainly programmed Arduinos. That's >>>>>>>>>>>> such a simple process anyone *can* do it.

    Since you won't listen to me and insist on engaging in a >>>>>>>>>>>> demented circular argument just as you did last time your >>>>>>>>>>>> fool nose was rubbed through your own shit here are the >>>>>>>>>>>> words from your cult leader whom backed up what I had been >>>>>>>>>>>> saying on the topic.

    On April 7th 2022 in the thread "O.T. A challenge" Noddy >>>>>>>>>>>> posted;

    "No one said anything about "making something from scratch", >>>>>>>>>>>> and given
    that there are a libraries full of pre-written code from >>>>>>>>>>>> which people
    can pick and choose the routines they need that can then be >>>>>>>>>>>> easily
    tailored to suit their specific requirements the obvious >>>>>>>>>>>> question has to
    be "Why the hell would you *need* to?"

    Can I give you some free advice?

    As much as you're trying to make it one, this is *not* a >>>>>>>>>>>> contest. You're
    not going to win a trophy for having done something that you >>>>>>>>>>>> consider to
    be more complicated or important than anyone else here, and >>>>>>>>>>>> you are
    definitely *not* the only person here who has "done shit". >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Carry on about it all you like, but all you're achieving >>>>>>>>>>>> here is to make
    yourself look like a total fruitcake who couldn't be any >>>>>>>>>>>> more conceited
    if he *wanted* to be."

    Unfortunately for you, what you said is on record, and when >>>>>>>>>>> you were put on the spot, you ran away screaming.


    Fortunately for me your deception and lies are on record.
    I *never* claimed to be a programmer and your attempted lies >>>>>>>>>> and deception won't hide the fact you ran off when challenged >>>>>>>>>> to produce an example of your programming skills. End of story. >>>>>>>>>>
    End of story, cry all you like, it won't get you anywhere, >>>>>>>>>>> coz I won't be listening.



    And there is the sound of keith doing a runner as per usual. >>>>>>>>>
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ˙˙He`s just had enough of yer nonsensical rants I`d reckon. >>>>>>>>> Surprised that he tolerated you for as long as he did you
    childish imbecile..

    Clocky has problems with the simple concept that "Anybody"
    includes him.


    Keep running keith. Careful you don't trip over your cooked
    drunken slob mate on your way out...

    Another irrelevant smoke screen to cover up your inability to
    answer a simple question.

    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.


    Another

    Nope, provide a programming example Mr. "Programmer" or keep running.

    Those are your options.

    ROTFL, you really are a very arrogant little person aren't you?


    You made the claim to be the superior programmer around here, you get to prove it running man.

    Like I said, ask nicely, or is that a foreign concept for you?

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 18:02:04
    On 21/01/2026 4:29 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 1:30 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    One of them is a bad option. Any Tom, Dick or Keith could
    cut'n'paste from a zillion sites and claim it as theirs.


    Likely what he did in the first place, like everyone else who
    programs an Arduino with existing libraries and code examples that
    can easily be modified to suit a particular project as I had
    described. He just can't admit to having done exactly that because he
    claimed to be a more 'sooper speshal much betterer' programmer than
    anyone else.

    Yeah well I have my doubts about those claims.

    If he posted his code it should be relatively easy to verify and of
    course he realised this so he ran away with his tail between his legs.

    It's a tad early to make that call, but one can always hope...



    Well he might, but it should a no-brainer to determine if his code
    compiles and what libraries it uses if he does.

    Simpleton.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 21:10:21
    On 21/1/2026 6:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,
    you are all caught up in your own self righteousness.


    That's laughably incorrect. But answer me this dipshit, you insist I
    should have spoken English at age 9 yet *all* the evidence presented
    backs up why that was not the case in the 70's - not until 1985 and
    only then in upper primary - so you were clearly 100% wrong.

    There was *no* evidence presented to support your claim, you retard. On

    Plenty of evidence supplied. It isn't Clocky's fault you're illiterate.

    the contrary, it was shown that English was a common language in
    clogland even back in your "day" (which itself was bullshit), making it highly inlikely that you could come here as a 9 year old in the "1970's"
    not speaking a word.

    And while we're on that subject, you were born in 1973, yes?

    In days gone by before you developed your love of secrecy about your
    past, you'd stated a few times that you were almost exactly 10 years
    younger than I am. I just had my 63rd birthday a couple of weeks ago, so that would put your birth year around 1973.

    You have also stated that you did your apprenticeship for a French car specialist between 1988 and 1992, which would tie in just nicely with someone born in '73 as they'd be 15 years old at the time. Legally able
    to leave school and start their training.

    So assuming all that is correct, how do you figure that you came here as
    a 9 year old in the 70's when if what I've mentioned here is accurate
    you wouldn't have been 9 until 1982?

    Piss easy. You have it wrong. HTH

    Please. Take a moment to explain how you either lied about coming here
    as a 9 year old in the 1970's, or how you're about to start lying about
    it now...












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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 20:38:09
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:44 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left
    specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

    John_H, felix & Fred to name three. Respectively, because he busted
    Fraudster lying plus his obsession with attacking Xeno, Fred and felix
    both tired of Fraudsters antics and cretinous abuse and said so.

    Now, if you haven't got anything useful to contribute I'd suggest that
    you find something else to do. Jigsaws perhaps?

    So, what proof have you that that is the reason that they left?

    That'd be because of what they said Richo. Or are you seriously doubting
    that felix didn't depart because of Fraudster's continual cretinous abuse?

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 20:46:07
    Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:44 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left
    specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

    John_H, felix & Fred to name three. Respectively, because he busted
    Fraudster lying plus his obsession with attacking Xeno, Fred and
    felix both tired of Fraudsters antics and cretinous abuse and said so.

    Now, if you haven't got anything useful to contribute I'd suggest
    that you find something else to do. Jigsaws perhaps?

    So, what proof have you that that is the reason that they left?

    None, and he's talking utter nonsense if he thinks I'm responsible.
    John_H couldn't have given a flying fuck about anything I had to say,

    He did about your Grange bullshit. Made it obvious that you were a liar
    and buffoon.

    Felix left for the 19th time after making a total fuckwit of himself for
    the 19th time, and for all anyone knows about Fred is he snuffed it.

    If there's been anyone who's done more damage here than anyone else it's that fucking mental case ex teacher <snip trad>

    Gorn Ritcho! Ask him for "proof".

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 21:48:16
    On 21/1/2026 6:33 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to
    pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on
    you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However
    despite your claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have demanded.

    Yep. Pretty simple actually. Yet despite all the noise these clowns make about how everything must be proved, they're incredibly short when it
    comes to their own stuff :)

    My Secondary teacher registration and my TAFE teacher registration
    records would be at PROV since I did those in Victoria.

    My secondary registration would be in the following archive at PROV
    Teachers' Registration Board (VA 4087). It is dated 26/06/1987.

    My TAFE registration would be in the following archive at PROV
    Victorian TAFE Teaching Service Registration Board (VA 4113). It is
    dated 17/02/1988.

    You live quite close to Nth Melbourne so feel free to rock on down to
    PROV and browse those archives. You will find, using the dates and
    archive locations provided, conclusive evidence of *my claims*. NB: I
    have the original registration certificates so I *know* my name will
    appear in the PROV archives at least twice and likely more frequently.

    So, if my proof exists at PROV, explain why *NO PROOF* of your 3
    *claimed* apprenticeships or 2 *claimed* trade qualifications exists at
    PROV? There should be a minimum of 10 records available to browse plus
    at least 2 more for the trade registration numbers - and there's nothing there! There isn't even an entry *IN YOUR NAME* in the trade
    registration database! In the inimitable words of Pauline Hanson,
    "Please explain!"


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    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 20:50:23
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:50 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 21/1/2026 6:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:44 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left >>>>>>> specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

    John_H, felix & Fred to name three. Respectively, because he busted >>>>> Fraudster lying plus his obsession with attacking Xeno, Fred and
    felix both tired of Fraudsters antics and cretinous abuse and said so. >>>>>
    Now, if you haven't got anything useful to contribute I'd suggest
    that you find something else to do. Jigsaws perhaps?

    So, what proof have you that that is the reason that they left?

    None, and he's talking utter nonsense if he thinks I'm responsible.
    John_H couldn't have given a flying fuck about anything I had to say,
    Felix left for the 19th time after making a total fuckwit of himself
    for the 19th time, and for all anyone knows about Fred is he snuffed it. >>>
    If there's been anyone who's done more damage here than anyone else
    it's that fucking mental case ex teacher, but his two loyal arse
    lickers will never accept that.

    Aw gee, and all we did was expose you for the liar you are.

    All you did was to bore these people stupid, so they left.

    You'd be an authority on that...

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 21:16:28
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 11:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:09 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car forums. >>>>>> It's because of people like him that that they all became
    *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on
    about proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.


    Hey Detective Richo! Would it be 'hypocritical' to only interrogate
    one gang in a gang war?

    You and your mates are always banging on about proof, but your light
    on for it when it is asked of you.

    Really? Could you cite me for when I've refused to supply "proof"?

    That is commonly known as hypocrisy.

    Not until it's proven it's not.

    Anyhoo, you failed to answer my question. (Gasp! Shock horror!)

    Oh dear, I am devastated, did I not answer one of your many questions? I might consider it if you ever answered any.

    And that's a fine example of why I rate you so lowly Richo. You evade a relevant question, with all the dazzling foot work of an aged Three Toed Sloth. Then added in a dash of childish sarcasm and then closed with a blatantly idiotic obfuscation. Go and start a jigsaw Richo.


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 21:28:34
    Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to
    pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on
    you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However
    despite your claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have demanded.

    Yep. Pretty simple actually. Yet despite all the noise these clowns make about how everything must be proved, they're incredibly short when it
    comes to their own stuff :)

    You made the claims Fraudster. You get to prove them.

    Now name a claim I've made and run away from. Like you have so many,
    many times.

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 21:30:23
    On 21/01/2026 9:16 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 11:04 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:09 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 12:00 pm, Xeno wrote:

    That won't work. He's been expelled from all the other car
    forums. It's because of people like him that that they all became >>>>>>> *moderated* forums.

    You have some verifiable proof of that? After all your carry on
    about proof, you'd be a hypocrite if you don't.


    Hey Detective Richo! Would it be 'hypocritical' to only interrogate >>>>> one gang in a gang war?

    You and your mates are always banging on about proof, but your light
    on for it when it is asked of you.

    Really? Could you cite me for when I've refused to supply "proof"?

    That is commonly known as hypocrisy.

    Not until it's proven it's not.

    Anyhoo, you failed to answer my question. (Gasp! Shock horror!)

    Oh dear, I am devastated, did I not answer one of your many questions?
    I might consider it if you ever answered any.

    And that's a fine example of why I rate you so lowly Richo. You evade a relevant question, with all the dazzling foot work of an aged Three Toed Sloth. Then added in a dash of childish sarcasm and then closed with a blatantly idiotic obfuscation. Go and start a jigsaw Richo.

    More words with no new information, when you are willing to answer
    questions with sensible answers, get back to me, until then just go ogle
    some schoolgirls you dirty old perv

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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 21:32:21
    On 21/01/2026 8:50 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:50 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 21/1/2026 6:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:44 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left >>>>>>>> specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

    John_H, felix & Fred to name three. Respectively, because he
    busted Fraudster lying plus his obsession with attacking Xeno,
    Fred and felix both tired of Fraudsters antics and cretinous abuse >>>>>> and said so.

    Now, if you haven't got anything useful to contribute I'd suggest >>>>>> that you find something else to do. Jigsaws perhaps?

    So, what proof have you that that is the reason that they left?

    None, and he's talking utter nonsense if he thinks I'm responsible.
    John_H couldn't have given a flying fuck about anything I had to
    say, Felix left for the 19th time after making a total fuckwit of
    himself for the 19th time, and for all anyone knows about Fred is he
    snuffed it.

    If there's been anyone who's done more damage here than anyone else
    it's that fucking mental case ex teacher, but his two loyal arse
    lickers will never accept that.

    Aw gee, and all we did was expose you for the liar you are.

    All you did was to bore these people stupid, so they left.

    You'd be an authority on that...

    Yep I watched it happen.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 21:38:35
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to
    demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back when you
    can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like it's confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    The whole Richo persona is ridiculous.

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  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 22:42:38
    On 21/1/2026 6:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:12 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:44 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:55 pm, alvey wrote:

    Not utter bullshit at all Fraudster. I can name posters who left
    specifically because of you. Who can you name?

    OK then name them, along with how you know why they left.

    John_H, felix & Fred to name three. Respectively, because he busted
    Fraudster lying plus his obsession with attacking Xeno, Fred and
    felix both tired of Fraudsters antics and cretinous abuse and said so.

    Now, if you haven't got anything useful to contribute I'd suggest
    that you find something else to do. Jigsaws perhaps?

    So, what proof have you that that is the reason that they left?

    None, and he's talking utter nonsense if he thinks I'm responsible.
    John_H couldn't have given a flying fuck about anything I had to say,

    John, and Paul, expressed themselves quite well at the time. They left
    no doubt as to their opinion of you.

    Felix left for the 19th time after making a total fuckwit of himself for
    the 19th time, and for all anyone knows about Fred is he snuffed it.

    If there's been anyone who's done more damage here than anyone else it's that fucking mental case ex teacher, but his two loyal arse lickers will never accept that.



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  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 21:49:47
    On 21/01/2026 9:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to
    pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on >>>>> you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so.
    However despite your claims you never offered up any supporting
    evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have demanded.

    Yep. Pretty simple actually. Yet despite all the noise these clowns
    make about how everything must be proved, they're incredibly short
    when it comes to their own stuff :)

    You made the claims Fraudster. You get to prove them.

    Now name a claim I've made and run away from. Like you have so many,
    many times.

    Since you work hard on total anonymity, you're running away from everything.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 21:57:55
    On 21/01/2026 4:33 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to
    demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back when you
    can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like it's confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    Falsehoods like what?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 21:59:20
    On 21/01/2026 9:38 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to
    demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back when
    you can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like it's
    confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    The whole Richo persona is ridiculous.

    As against alvo who doesn't have one, and clocky whose persona is
    compatible to cyanide.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 07:27:34
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to >>>>>> pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you >>>>>> insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is
    on you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so.
    However despite your claims you never offered up any supporting
    evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have
    demanded.

    Yep. Pretty simple actually. Yet despite all the noise these clowns
    make about how everything must be proved, they're incredibly short
    when it comes to their own stuff :)

    You made the claims Fraudster. You get to prove them.

    Now name a claim I've made and run away from. Like you have so many,
    many times.

    Since you work hard on total anonymity, you're running away from
    everything.

    This makes even less sense than your usual mush.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 07:29:46
    Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:41 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:00 am, alvey wrote:

    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to
    pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on
    you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However
    despite your claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    I'm more interested in why would I have to prove a statement he made
    up in the first place.

    It's not my problem that he has comprehension issues and is a habitual
    liar.

    We've been over this before enough times now. Your words were abundantly clear. If you choose to deny them now then the most plausible reason for that is because you were talking shit at the time.

    Case closed.

    And that's another DNF for Buffo...


    alvey
    Warming up for the F1 season.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 07:30:51
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to
    pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on
    you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However
    despite your claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have demanded.

    Go on then. Explain how.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 07:34:59
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:38 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to
    demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back when
    you can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like it's
    confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    The whole Richo persona is ridiculous.

    As against alvo who doesn't have one, and clocky whose persona is
    compatible to cyanide.

    So lame that you should be allowed to park in the disabled spots.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 07:37:20
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 4:29 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 1:30 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    One of them is a bad option. Any Tom, Dick or Keith could
    cut'n'paste from a zillion sites and claim it as theirs.


    Likely what he did in the first place, like everyone else who
    programs an Arduino with existing libraries and code examples that
    can easily be modified to suit a particular project as I had
    described. He just can't admit to having done exactly that because
    he claimed to be a more 'sooper speshal much betterer' programmer
    than anyone else.

    Yeah well I have my doubts about those claims.

    If he posted his code it should be relatively easy to verify and of
    course he realised this so he ran away with his tail between his legs.

    It's a tad early to make that call, but one can always hope...



    Well he might, but it should a no-brainer to determine if his code
    compiles and what libraries it uses if he does.

    Simpleton.

    Succinct and straight to the pointless...

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 12:58:06
    On 21/01/2026 4:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 4:29 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 1:30 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    One of them is a bad option. Any Tom, Dick or Keith could
    cut'n'paste from a zillion sites and claim it as theirs.


    Likely what he did in the first place, like everyone else who
    programs an Arduino with existing libraries and code examples that
    can easily be modified to suit a particular project as I had
    described. He just can't admit to having done exactly that because
    he claimed to be a more 'sooper speshal much betterer' programmer
    than anyone else.

    Yeah well I have my doubts about those claims.

    If he posted his code it should be relatively easy to verify and of
    course he realised this so he ran away with his tail between his legs.

    It's a tad early to make that call, but one can always hope...



    Well he might, but it should a no-brainer to determine if his code
    compiles and what libraries it uses if he does.

    Simpleton.

    Ah, so there you have it - I hit the nail right on the head didn't I you pathetic weasel.



    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Xeno@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 17:22:05
    On 22/1/2026 8:34 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:38 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to >>>>>>> demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back when
    you can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like
    it's confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    The whole Richo persona is ridiculous.

    As against alvo who doesn't have one, and clocky whose persona is
    compatible to cyanide.

    So lame that you should be allowed to park in the disabled spots.

    I'm disappointed! Keith didn't include me. :-(

    It's rather ironic but Keith has become exactly what he rails against.

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 16:26:38
    On 22/01/2026 4:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 22/1/2026 8:34 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:38 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond to >>>>>>>> demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back when >>>>>> you can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like
    it's confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    The whole Richo persona is ridiculous.

    As against alvo who doesn't have one, and clocky whose persona is
    compatible to cyanide.

    So lame that you should be allowed to park in the disabled spots.

    I'm disappointed! Keith didn't include me. :-(

    Sorry to disappoint you, your persona is that of a fake intellectual.

    It's rather ironic but Keith has become exactly what he rails against.

    Nope, I rail against posting the same shit every day for years.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 16:32:34
    On 22/01/2026 2:58 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 4:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 4:29 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 1:30 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 am, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 6:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:


    Provide a programming example or keep running you liar.

    Those are your options.

    One of them is a bad option. Any Tom, Dick or Keith could
    cut'n'paste from a zillion sites and claim it as theirs.


    Likely what he did in the first place, like everyone else who
    programs an Arduino with existing libraries and code examples that
    can easily be modified to suit a particular project as I had
    described. He just can't admit to having done exactly that because
    he claimed to be a more 'sooper speshal much betterer' programmer
    than anyone else.

    Yeah well I have my doubts about those claims.

    If he posted his code it should be relatively easy to verify and of >>>>> course he realised this so he ran away with his tail between his legs. >>>>
    It's a tad early to make that call, but one can always hope...



    Well he might, but it should a no-brainer to determine if his code
    compiles and what libraries it uses if he does.

    Simpleton.

    Ah, so there you have it - I hit the nail right on the head didn't I you pathetic weasel.

    It won't compile in the Arduino IDE, because it's not Arduino code.

    It shouldn't be beyond even you to determine what libraries are
    included, they are usually at the top of the code with #include in
    front. Like

    #include <stdio.h> //
    #include <string.h> // standard C
    #include <stdlib.h> // includes
    #include <math.h> //

    #include "hardware/uart.h" //
    #include "hardware/irq.h" // Pico
    #include "pico/stdlib.h" // includes
    #include "pico/multicore.h" //
    #include <pico/platform.h> //
    #include "hardware/watchdog.h" //

    Remember to ask nicely. Off you go simpleton.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 16:33:16
    On 22/01/2026 7:27 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you >>>>>>> to pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but >>>>>>> you insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus >>>>>>> is on you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do
    so. However despite your claims you never offered up any
    supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that? >>>>>
    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have
    demanded.

    Yep. Pretty simple actually. Yet despite all the noise these clowns
    make about how everything must be proved, they're incredibly short
    when it comes to their own stuff :)

    You made the claims Fraudster. You get to prove them.

    Now name a claim I've made and run away from. Like you have so many,
    many times.

    Since you work hard on total anonymity, you're running away from
    everything.

    This makes even less sense than your usual mush.

    Usual avoidance.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 16:34:28
    On 22/01/2026 7:30 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to
    pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on
    you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so. However
    despite your claims you never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have demanded.

    Go on then. Explain how.

    You work it out, you seem to imply that you are intelligent, so go ahead
    and prove that too.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 18:03:19
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 7:27 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you >>>>>>>> to pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, >>>>>>>> but you insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the >>>>>>>> onus is on you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to >>>>>>>> do so. However despite your claims you never offered up any
    supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that? >>>>>>
    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have
    demanded.

    Yep. Pretty simple actually. Yet despite all the noise these clowns >>>>> make about how everything must be proved, they're incredibly short
    when it comes to their own stuff :)

    You made the claims Fraudster. You get to prove them.

    Now name a claim I've made and run away from. Like you have so many,
    many times.

    Since you work hard on total anonymity, you're running away from
    everything.

    This makes even less sense than your usual mush.

    Usual avoidance.

    Mush to slush. Dennis knows what I'm supposed to be avoiding.

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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 18:25:08
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 7:30 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to
    pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you
    insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is on >>>>> you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so.
    However despite your claims you never offered up any supporting
    evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have demanded.

    Go on then. Explain how.

    You work it out, you seem to imply that you are intelligent, so go ahead
    and prove that too.

    You've made a real pig's breakfast of this Richo.

    Even if you could see it, or have it (slowly) explained to you, you'd
    refuse to admit it and run away, so I'm not going to bother.

    You really shouldn't try flaming anyone Richo as you're seriously
    hopeless at it.


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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 18:32:51
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 4:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 22/1/2026 8:34 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:38 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond >>>>>>>>> to demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back
    when you can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like
    it's confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    The whole Richo persona is ridiculous.

    As against alvo who doesn't have one, and clocky whose persona is
    compatible to cyanide.

    So lame that you should be allowed to park in the disabled spots.

    I'm disappointed! Keith didn't include me. :-(

    Sorry to disappoint you, your persona is that of a fake intellectual.

    It's rather ironic but Keith has become exactly what he rails against.

    Nope, I rail against posting the same shit every day for years.



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  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 18:34:31
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 4:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 22/1/2026 8:34 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:38 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond >>>>>>>>> to demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back
    when you can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like
    it's confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    The whole Richo persona is ridiculous.

    As against alvo who doesn't have one, and clocky whose persona is
    compatible to cyanide.

    So lame that you should be allowed to park in the disabled spots.

    I'm disappointed! Keith didn't include me. :-(

    Sorry to disappoint you, your persona is that of a fake intellectual.

    It's rather ironic but Keith has become exactly what he rails against.

    Nope, I rail against posting the same shit every day for years.

    Looks like Xeno is correct...


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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 16:43:02
    On 21/01/2026 3:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,
    you are all caught up in your own self righteousness.


    That's laughably incorrect. But answer me this dipshit, you insist I
    should have spoken English at age 9 yet *all* the evidence presented
    backs up why that was not the case in the 70's - not until 1985 and
    only then in upper primary - so you were clearly 100% wrong.

    There was *no* evidence presented to support your claim

    From the Dutch government website and Wikipedia (your own fucking
    link!) for starters.

    All of it backs up *exactly* what I stated and not the anecdotal rubbish
    keith and you dreamed up out of nowhere.

    And no, I was not born in "1973" detective halfwit :-)


    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
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  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 16:58:12
    On 21/01/2026 6:10 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 21/1/2026 6:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,
    you are all caught up in your own self righteousness.


    That's laughably incorrect. But answer me this dipshit, you insist I
    should have spoken English at age 9 yet *all* the evidence presented
    backs up why that was not the case in the 70's - not until 1985 and
    only then in upper primary - so you were clearly 100% wrong.

    There was *no* evidence presented to support your claim, you retard. On

    Plenty of evidence supplied. It isn't Clocky's fault you're illiterate.

    the contrary, it was shown that English was a common language in
    clogland even back in your "day" (which itself was bullshit), making
    it highly inlikely that you could come here as a 9 year old in the
    "1970's" not speaking a word.

    And while we're on that subject, you were born in 1973, yes?

    In days gone by before you developed your love of secrecy about your
    past, you'd stated a few times that you were almost exactly 10 years
    younger than I am. I just had my 63rd birthday a couple of weeks ago,
    so that would put your birth year around 1973.

    You have also stated that you did your apprenticeship for a French car
    specialist between 1988 and 1992, which would tie in just nicely with
    someone born in '73 as they'd be 15 years old at the time. Legally
    able to leave school and start their training.

    So assuming all that is correct, how do you figure that you came here
    as a 9 year old in the 70's when if what I've mentioned here is
    accurate you wouldn't have been 9 until 1982?

    Piss easy. You have it wrong. HTH

    Of course he has it wrong, you know he has :-) I never said I came here
    as a 9 year old. I said I couldn't speak a word of English when I was 9
    and that is absolutely true as verified by the supplied evidence. In his scrambled mind he's conflated not speaking English at age 9 with coming
    here when I was 9. I was actually older and I still couldn't speak any
    English as it wasn't yet taught until upper primary school as the
    evidence made clear and not until 1986 - but I had already been here for
    years by then so not relevant anyway. Keith and the frauds anecdotal
    rubbish is simply *not* supported by the cold hard facts. Period.

    It's really no surprise that he flunked school so badly and never met
    minimum entry requirements for any apprenticeship when he can't even comprehend simple English or clear evidence.

    As for that pommy dickhead's claim to being an ace programmer getting
    paid twice as much as average - pretty dubious too with the his looney
    level comprehension and logic.




    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clocky@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 17:00:54
    On 22/01/2026 2:26 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 4:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 22/1/2026 8:34 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:38 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond >>>>>>>>> to demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back
    when you can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like
    it's confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    The whole Richo persona is ridiculous.

    As against alvo who doesn't have one, and clocky whose persona is
    compatible to cyanide.

    So lame that you should be allowed to park in the disabled spots.

    I'm disappointed! Keith didn't include me. :-(

    Sorry to disappoint you, your persona is that of a fake intellectual.

    It's rather ironic but Keith has become exactly what he rails against.

    Nope, I rail against posting the same shit every day for years.




    Xeno is right then :-)

    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 19:42:38
    On 22/01/2026 6:03 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 7:27 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you >>>>>>>>> to pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, >>>>>>>>> but you insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, >>>>>>>>> the onus is on you to prove your claim and you have an
    obligation to do so. However despite your claims you never
    offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that? >>>>>>>
    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have
    demanded.

    Yep. Pretty simple actually. Yet despite all the noise these
    clowns make about how everything must be proved, they're
    incredibly short when it comes to their own stuff :)

    You made the claims Fraudster. You get to prove them.

    Now name a claim I've made and run away from. Like you have so
    many, many times.

    Since you work hard on total anonymity, you're running away from
    everything.

    This makes even less sense than your usual mush.

    Usual avoidance.

    Mush to slush. Dennis knows what I'm supposed to be avoiding.

    In that case you're even more stupid than I gave you credit for

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 19:43:15
    On 22/01/2026 6:25 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 7:30 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled you to >>>>>> pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called bullshit, but you >>>>>> insisted it was true. According to your mental mate, the onus is
    on you to prove your claim and you have an obligation to do so.
    However despite your claims you never offered up any supporting
    evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have
    demanded.

    Go on then. Explain how.

    You work it out, you seem to imply that you are intelligent, so go
    ahead and prove that too.

    You've made a real pig's breakfast of this Richo.

    Even if you could see it, or have it (slowly) explained to you, you'd
    refuse to admit it and run away, so I'm not going to bother.

    You really shouldn't try flaming anyone Richo as you're seriously
    hopeless at it.


    Failure,

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 19:44:31
    On 22/01/2026 6:34 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 4:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 22/1/2026 8:34 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:38 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond >>>>>>>>>> to demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back >>>>>>>> when you can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like >>>>>>> it's confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    The whole Richo persona is ridiculous.

    As against alvo who doesn't have one, and clocky whose persona is
    compatible to cyanide.

    So lame that you should be allowed to park in the disabled spots.

    I'm disappointed! Keith didn't include me. :-(

    Sorry to disappoint you, your persona is that of a fake intellectual.

    It's rather ironic but Keith has become exactly what he rails against.

    Nope, I rail against posting the same shit every day for years.

    Looks like Xeno is correct...

    Managed to get it out on the second try, but was it really worth it?


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From keithr0@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 19:44:57
    On 22/01/2026 7:00 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 2:26 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 4:22 pm, Xeno wrote:
    On 22/1/2026 8:34 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:38 pm, alvey wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:07 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 9:40 pm, Clocky wrote:



    If you want some sample code then ask nicely, I don't respond >>>>>>>>>> to demands or threats.

    Or when it gets tricky


    <yawn>> just deleted the rest of this conversation. Call back >>>>>>>> when you can ask politely.


    For a bloke who throws falsehoods about other people around like >>>>>>> it's confetti your expectations of politeness are ridiculous.

    The whole Richo persona is ridiculous.

    As against alvo who doesn't have one, and clocky whose persona is
    compatible to cyanide.

    So lame that you should be allowed to park in the disabled spots.

    I'm disappointed! Keith didn't include me. :-(

    Sorry to disappoint you, your persona is that of a fake intellectual.

    It's rather ironic but Keith has become exactly what he rails against.

    Nope, I rail against posting the same shit every day for years.




    Xeno is right then :-)

    That would be a first.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From alvey@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 20:27:46
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 6:03 pm, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 22/01/2026 7:27 am, alvey wrote:
    keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 9:28 pm, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 5:04 pm, keithr0 wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
    Noddy wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 10:51 pm, Clocky wrote:


    You claimed that you repaired so many ECU's that it enabled >>>>>>>>>> you to pay of your house in 6 years. Most people called
    bullshit, but you insisted it was true. According to your >>>>>>>>>> mental mate, the onus is on you to prove your claim and you >>>>>>>>>> have an obligation to do so. However despite your claims you >>>>>>>>>> never offered up any supporting evidence.

    Why was that?

    Just as a matter of minimal interest... How *could* you prove >>>>>>>>> that?

    No harder than the proofs that you nd your fellow cultist have >>>>>>>> demanded.

    Yep. Pretty simple actually. Yet despite all the noise these
    clowns make about how everything must be proved, they're
    incredibly short when it comes to their own stuff :)

    You made the claims Fraudster. You get to prove them.

    Now name a claim I've made and run away from. Like you have so
    many, many times.

    Since you work hard on total anonymity, you're running away from
    everything.

    This makes even less sense than your usual mush.

    Usual avoidance.

    Mush to slush. Dennis knows what I'm supposed to be avoiding.

    In that case you're even more stupid than I gave you credit for

    Aside from the fact that you have no "credit" to give, you're doing
    another Fraudsterism here Richo. This one being that your/his sole
    method of showing your superior intelligence is to tell everyone else
    how dumb they are. Here's a No-Fun Fact! It doesn't work for either of
    you.


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  • From jonz@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 10:38:52
    On 22-Jan-26 7:43 PM, Clocky wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 3:46 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 21/01/2026 2:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
    On 20/01/2026 8:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:

    ROTFL, the question is who has the biggest ego, you, xeno, or alvo,
    you are all caught up in your own self righteousness.


    That's laughably incorrect. But answer me this dipshit, you insist I
    should have spoken English at age 9 yet *all* the evidence presented
    backs up why that was not the case in the 70's - not until 1985 and
    only then in upper primary - so you were clearly 100% wrong.

    There was *no* evidence presented to support your claim

    From the Dutch government website and Wikipedia (your own fucking
    link!) for starters.

    All of it backs up *exactly* what I stated and not the anecdotal rubbish keith and you dreamed up out of nowhere.

    And no, I was not born in "1973"˙ detective halfwit :-)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hell no!, The event would have been a *hatching*..




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    difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it!!!!. Gene Spafford

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