• Track ball mouse. Anyone using one.

    From Alan K.@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 10, 2026 14:22:57
    I'm currently using a standard mouse. And I'm interested in some first hand feedback on
    standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse. Especially one that looks like the mouse has
    been tipped over on it's side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help? Do you find it as good as some critics say?
    That kind of stuff.
    Thanks

    --
    Mint 22.3, Thunderbird 140.11.1esr, Firefox 151.0.4
    Alan K.


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  • From TheLastSysop@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 10, 2026 18:23:29
    On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 14:22:57 -0400, "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
    I'm currently using a standard mouse. And I'm interested in some first hand >feedback on
    standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse. Especially one that looks like >the mouse has
    been tipped over on it's side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help? Do you find it as good as some >critics say?
    That kind of stuff.
    Thanks

    A thumb trackball is worth trying, but I would not treat it as a magic wrist- pain cure. It changes which tendons get the work rather than making the work disappear.

    The upside is that your arm and wrist can stay mostly still, and it needs very little desk space. The downside is that your thumb now does most of the fine motion, so some people trade wrist ache for thumb ache. If you already have thumb or basal-joint trouble, be cautious.

    If you buy one, I would look for an easy return policy and give it a week or two. Start with the pointer speed lower than you think you need, then raise acceleration/sensitivity gradually. Also plan to clean the ball and rollers/sensors now and then; lint buildup makes them feel worse than they really are.

    For pain, the boring stuff still matters: neutral wrist angle, elbow support, a relaxed grip, and switching hands/devices occasionally. A vertical mouse or a center trackball may fit some hands better than a thumb-ball, so hand size and the exact shape matter a lot.

    --
    TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null>
    "I survived the great rm -rf / rehearsal and all I got was this .signature."

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  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 10, 2026 19:34:15
    Alan K. <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
    I'm currently using a standard mouse. And I'm interested in some first hand feedback on
    standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse. Especially one that looks like the mouse has
    been tipped over on it's side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help? Do you find it as good as some critics say?
    That kind of stuff.

    I've been using the logitech trackball mouse for probably 25 years at home
    and at work. Currently the M570. I used to get shoulder pain from using a traditional mouse.

    It's very, very comfortable and I strongly recommend it.



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  • From TheLastSysop@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 10, 2026 19:42:06
    On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 19:34:15 -0000 (UTC), Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >Alan K. <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
    I'm currently using a standard mouse. And I'm interested in some first hand >> feedback on
    standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse. Especially one that looks like >> the mouse has
    been tipped over on it's side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help? Do you find it as good as some
    critics say?
    That kind of stuff.

    I've been using the logitech trackball mouse for probably 25 years at home >and at work. Currently the M570. I used to get shoulder pain from using a >traditional mouse.

    It's very, very comfortable and I strongly recommend it.

    One practical Linux-specific point: most of these are just standard USB or Bluetooth HID devices, so the basic buttons and motion should work without a special driver. If it has extra buttons, those may need a small bit of mapping with the desktop's mouse settings, xinput, or libinput quirks, depending on the model and desktop environment.

    For wrist/shoulder pain, the biggest thing is fit. A thumb ball and a finger- operated ball feel very different, and some people love one and hate the other. If possible, buy from somewhere with an easy return policy and give it a few days. Also expect to adjust pointer speed/acceleration; the default settings are often too jumpy or too slow for a trackball.

    The maintenance side is minor: pop the ball out occasionally and wipe the little
    support points/sensors. When it starts feeling gritty or imprecise, that is usually all it needs.

    --
    TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null>
    "I survived the great rm -rf / rehearsal and all I got was this .signature."

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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 10, 2026 23:26:18
    On 2026-06-10 20:22, Alan K. wrote:
    I'm currently using a standard mouse.˙ And I'm interested in some first
    hand feedback on standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse.
    Especially one that looks like the mouse has been tipped over on it's
    side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help?˙ Do you find it as good as
    some critics say?
    That kind of stuff.
    Thanks

    I use a Logitech Marble Plus (I think) since the mid nineties. I am on
    the second one, corded, usb. The first one was ps2. Very durable. Very confortable.

    It gets time getting used to it, but when you do, you love it. Visitors
    will not :-D

    It helps when space is cramped in the table, or you have arm or shoulder
    ache. It is possible, though, that you get thumb ache instead, after
    many years. You might switch then to a normal mouse for a while.

    On laptops, I use the included touchpad. Some people find that
    uncomfortable and plug a normal mouse.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From Alan K.@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 10, 2026 18:32:38
    On 6/10/26 2:23 PM, TheLastSysop wrote:
    Also plan to clean the ball and
    rollers/sensors now and then; lint buildup makes them feel worse than they really are.

    Sounds like the days of the old mouse with a ball on the bottom. I remember pulling lint
    off the idler rollers now and then and it did wonders for the tracking. But it's a simple
    task.

    --
    Mint 22.3, Thunderbird 140.11.1esr, Firefox 151.0.4
    Alan K.

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 10, 2026 19:48:49
    On Wed, 6/10/2026 6:32 PM, Alan K. wrote:
    On 6/10/26 2:23 PM, TheLastSysop wrote:
    ˙˙ Also plan to clean the ball and
    rollers/sensors now and then; lint buildup makes them feel worse than they >> really are.

    Sounds like the days of the old mouse with a ball on the bottom.˙
    I remember pulling lint off the idler rollers now and then and
    it did wonders for the tracking.˙ But it's a simple task.

    Rubber ball mice, could be cleaned daily.
    That is how quickly the rubber wheel could pick
    up a band of the "rubber snot".

    A lot of them, the rubber ball was not round. That
    was one of the more irritating parts, is the
    shabby fabrication of the balls.

    A mouse with steel balls, those did not pick up
    dirt quite as easily. And the balls were of
    great quality. Perfectly round and shiny. But
    we can't be doing that, when shabby/wobbly/dirty
    rubber balls are available. The Hawley mouse for
    $400, is an example of a steel ball mouse (one big
    ball, two smaller suspension balls for a three point
    stance).

    Thank goodness for the invention of optical mice.
    Nothing to do with this thread, but I cleaned
    the optical mouse scroll wheel this afternoon. It
    looks like the scroll wheel actually has bearing wear.
    So I swapped the scroll wheel assembly between two
    identical mice, and the result is they're both
    "sorta OK" so I have reassembled them and stopped
    fidgeting :-) The wheel was getting really gummy,
    but it was the side of the rubber wheel touching
    against the plastic that was doing that, rather than
    some sticky beverage affecting the bearing running
    surfaces. It's just the usual assortment of "plastic on plastic",
    so we cannot expect miracles. Maybe next time, a steel
    axle would work.

    The first optical mice, didn't have a lot of sensors.
    And they required a "target with gridded lines on it",
    to pick up the transitions. The Sun Sparc mousepad,
    was the perfect match for the less-than-steller detector
    method.

    Then came the array sensor, which watches specs of dirt move
    from one (x,y) pixel to the next. And that worked on a lot of
    surfaces, a dirty surface is fine because it gives contrasting
    pixels to watch. Only if you used one of those (common)
    array-sensor mice on a glass coffee table, it might not work.
    And because of the noise immunity of an array solution,
    those hardly ever need cleaning in the sensor/illuminator area.

    After that innovation, about all they could fuss with, was the
    wireless mice. And also, making the battery on the wireless mouse,
    work for two years.

    Paul



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  • From Graham J@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 08:21:50
    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    [snip]

    On laptops, I use the included touchpad. Some people find that
    uncomfortable and plug a normal mouse.

    On such an included touchpad I always disable tapping. If I don't the trackpad thinks that my ordinary finger movements are taps, with
    annoying and unexpected results!


    --
    Graham J

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  • From german usenet@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 12:37:41
    Le 10/06/2026 … 20:22, Alan K. a ‚crit˙:
    I'm currently using a standard mouse.˙ And I'm interested in some first
    hand feedback on standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse.
    Especially one that looks like the mouse has been tipped over on it's
    side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help?˙ Do you find it as good as
    some critics say?
    That kind of stuff.
    Thanks


    is a good idea to do better for the ergonomic setup...juste a chair can
    kill us.



    --
    Amicalement,

    german

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  • From Philip Herlihy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 13:15:44
    In article <110ca21$u5o7$1@dont-email.me>, alan@invalid.com says...


    I'm currently using a standard mouse. And I'm interested in some first hand feedback on
    standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse. Especially one that looks like the mouse has
    been tipped over on it's side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help? Do you find it as good as some critics say?



    I wouldn't use anything else. My favourite was the Microsoft Trackball Explorer:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00004YV5X

    Alternatively, the Logitech Marble Mouse was very good, and being
    compact could be used with a laptop on a swaying train (put the mouse on
    your thigh!): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-2226127-USB-Marble-Mouse/dp/B001DQY9AW

    The one I'm using now is this:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DJDNVM1L
    - works really well, though the wheel eventually began to slip - still
    works if you apply a little side pressure!

    None of these is still available, though there are similar things out
    there. In particular, I'm surprised Logitech discontinued the Marble
    Mouse, which was comfortable, cheap and compact.

    My wife prefers a trackball with a thumb-ball. I just don't get on with
    that at all, but she swears by it.

    A trackball can do anything that an ordinary mouse can do, with one
    exception. At a pinch you can use an ordinary mouse to draw, or sign
    things. I really, really can't do that with any trackball I've ever
    used.

    --
    --
    Phil, London

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  • From Philip Herlihy@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 13:23:19
    In article <MPG.4494b748ac96d8419896b3@news.eternal-september.org>, nothing@invalid.com says...


    The one I'm using now is this:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DJDNVM1L
    - works really well, though the wheel eventually began to slip - still
    works if you apply a little side pressure!

    None of these is still available, ...


    Update: There is this version available, and I've been very happy with
    mine.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/ProtoArc-EM03-NL-Rechargeable-Multi-Device- Black/dp/B0FHZY53XD

    --
    --
    Phil, London

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  • From Mark Lloyd@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 14:58:02
    On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 08:21:50 +0100, Graham J wrote:

    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    [snip]

    On laptops, I use the included touchpad. Some people find that
    uncomfortable and plug a normal mouse.

    On such an included touchpad I always disable tapping. If I don't the trackpad thinks that my ordinary finger movements are taps, with
    annoying and unexpected results!

    The self-clicking touchpad. This often happens with laptops, which is why
    I normally disable it and use an external mouse.

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Friday, June 19, 2026 13:46:29
    ['Late' response due to extended absence.]

    Alan K. <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
    I'm currently using a standard mouse. And I'm interested in some
    first hand feedback on standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse. Especially one that looks like the mouse has been tipped over on it's
    side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help? Do you find it as good as
    some critics say?
    That kind of stuff.
    Thanks

    In my work in remote techical support (of *real* computers :-)), I
    developed a nasty [1] RSI (in my upper arm and shoulder) in the late 90s
    and what helped me - and still does - is frequent *switching* between *different* types of 'mice'.

    I switched between trackball (a ergonomically bad one at the time
    (there were no good ones yet)), touchpad and mouse. So no hours on end
    on one type, but switching as frequently as needed. That made my RSI
    manageable and quite bearable. (Later, I also had a good trackball
    (Logitech Marble something).)

    Since 2003, I've been mainly using laptops with their touchpads, but
    lately my RSI is playing up again (too much computer 'work' in a row),
    so I bought a (wireless) mouse and am now switching between touchpad and
    mouse and these are getting better/good.

    I can highly recommend this switching method (and of course frequent
    breaks, other activities, etc.).

    I hope this helps.

    [1] I was forced to work shorter periods at a time. A colleague of mine
    was out of action for a year. This isn't stuff to take lightly!

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  • From Alan K.@3:633/10 to All on Friday, June 19, 2026 10:41:35
    On 6/19/26 9:46 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    ['Late' response due to extended absence.]

    Alan K. <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
    I'm currently using a standard mouse. And I'm interested in some
    first hand feedback on standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse.
    Especially one that looks like the mouse has been tipped over on it's
    side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help? Do you find it as good as
    some critics say?
    That kind of stuff.
    Thanks

    In my work in remote techical support (of *real* computers :-)), I developed a nasty [1] RSI (in my upper arm and shoulder) in the late 90s
    and what helped me - and still does - is frequent *switching* between *different* types of 'mice'.

    I switched between trackball (a ergonomically bad one at the time
    (there were no good ones yet)), touchpad and mouse. So no hours on end
    on one type, but switching as frequently as needed. That made my RSI manageable and quite bearable. (Later, I also had a good trackball
    (Logitech Marble something).)

    Since 2003, I've been mainly using laptops with their touchpads, but lately my RSI is playing up again (too much computer 'work' in a row),
    so I bought a (wireless) mouse and am now switching between touchpad and mouse and these are getting better/good.

    I can highly recommend this switching method (and of course frequent breaks, other activities, etc.).

    I hope this helps.

    [1] I was forced to work shorter periods at a time. A colleague of mine
    was out of action for a year. This isn't stuff to take lightly!

    My wife has sicked me onto reading on my Kindle. It is a distraction. I'll probably buy
    a track ball type mouse. Seen a few good ones, just have to decide now.

    Until we get good verbal commands / AI input, I'll have to use a mouse!

    --
    Mint 22.3, Thunderbird 140.11.1esr, Firefox 151.0.4
    Alan K.

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  • From Java Jive@3:633/10 to All on Friday, June 19, 2026 16:38:11
    On 2026-06-19 14:46, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    ['Late' response due to extended absence.]

    Alan K. <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
    I'm currently using a standard mouse. And I'm interested in some
    first hand feedback on standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse.
    Especially one that looks like the mouse has been tipped over on it's
    side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help? Do you find it as good as
    some critics say?
    That kind of stuff.
    Thanks

    In my work in remote techical support (of *real* computers :-)), I developed a nasty [1] RSI (in my upper arm and shoulder) in the late 90s
    and what helped me - and still does - is frequent *switching* between *different* types of 'mice'.

    I switched between trackball (a ergonomically bad one at the time
    (there were no good ones yet)), touchpad and mouse. So no hours on end
    on one type, but switching as frequently as needed. That made my RSI manageable and quite bearable. (Later, I also had a good trackball
    (Logitech Marble something).)

    Since 2003, I've been mainly using laptops with their touchpads, but lately my RSI is playing up again (too much computer 'work' in a row),
    so I bought a (wireless) mouse and am now switching between touchpad and mouse and these are getting better/good.

    I can highly recommend this switching method (and of course frequent breaks, other activities, etc.).

    I hope this helps.

    [1] I was forced to work shorter periods at a time. A colleague of mine
    was out of action for a year. This isn't stuff to take lightly!

    I can relate to much of the above ...

    I first noticed RSI, as we'd now call it but then I'd never heard of the
    term, when learning guitar in my late teens early 20s - if I sat in
    the 'classical' position with some sort of footstool, I'd get discomfort/aching at the bottom of my right shoulder blade from my right
    arm being raised over the top of the belly of the guitar. Later when I started to use computers with mice, this same discomfort/ache
    re-appeared exactly as before. My solution was to learn to use a
    right-handed setup mouse left-handed, because my left shoulder has never
    given me any problems. As I also use still my right-hand for short
    periods, I don't want to swap the buttons over permanently, still less
    be constantly having to change them every time I change hands.

    There is something of a further problem though, in that I am very tall
    and have large hands proportionately, and I find most mice awkwardly
    small, particularly when used left-handed with a right-handed setup.
    However, but I can usually get around that by holding it differently.

    --

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    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk


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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 20, 2026 10:10:26
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    [...]

    There is something of a further problem though, in that I am very tall
    and have large hands proportionately, and I find most mice awkwardly
    small, particularly when used left-handed with a right-handed setup. However, but I can usually get around that by holding it differently.

    My preferred (Dutch) webshop has categorized their mice in three
    different size categories: Small <11cm and <6.5cm, Medium 11-12.5cm
    and 6.5-7cm and Large >12.5cm and >7cm.

    I bought a Medium size one.

    For Large they say:

    "Large mice
    Choose a large mouse if you're hand is between 85 - 100mm wide and about
    198 - 220mm long. These mouses are the largest in the assortment."

    If you want, you can have a look which kind of mice fall in the Large category:

    <https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/choosing-the-right-mouse.html>

    That's the English version of the Dutch webshop, so not for buying,
    but for getting information.

    HTH.

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  • From Java Jive@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 20, 2026 21:02:49
    On 2026-06-20 11:10, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    [...]

    There is something of a further problem though, in that I am very tall
    and have large hands proportionately, and I find most mice awkwardly
    small, particularly when used left-handed with a right-handed setup.
    However, but I can usually get around that by holding it differently.

    My preferred (Dutch) webshop has categorized their mice in three
    different size categories: Small <11cm and <6.5cm, Medium 11-12.5cm
    and 6.5-7cm and Large >12.5cm and >7cm.

    I bought a Medium size one.

    For Large they say:

    "Large mice
    Choose a large mouse if you're hand is between 85 - 100mm wide and about
    198 - 220mm long. These mouses are the largest in the assortment."

    If you want, you can have a look which kind of mice fall in the Large category:

    <https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/choosing-the-right-mouse.html>

    That's the English version of the Dutch webshop, so not for buying,
    but for getting information.

    HTH.

    Tx for the potentially useful info.

    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk


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  • From red floyd@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 20, 2026 14:56:13
    On 6/20/2026 3:10 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    [...]

    There is something of a further problem though, in that I am very tall
    and have large hands proportionately, and I find most mice awkwardly
    small, particularly when used left-handed with a right-handed setup.
    However, but I can usually get around that by holding it differently.

    My preferred (Dutch) webshop has categorized their mice in three
    different size categories: Small <11cm and <6.5cm, Medium 11-12.5cm
    and 6.5-7cm and Large >12.5cm and >7cm.

    I bought a Medium size one.

    For Large they say:

    "Large mice
    Choose a large mouse if you're hand is between 85 - 100mm wide and about
    198 - 220mm long. These mouses are the largest in the assortment."

    If you want, you can have a look which kind of mice fall in the Large category:

    <https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/choosing-the-right-mouse.html>

    That's the English version of the Dutch webshop, so not for buying,
    but for getting information.

    HTH.

    I love my Razer Deathaddr Essential (wired).

    I may attach a wireless to my desktop as well to try the swapping trick
    with a second mouse configured for lefty. I may even go as far as
    buying a left handed mouse for that.


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  • From Maurice Helwig@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 23, 2026 06:51:05
    On 11/06/2026 4:22 am, Alan K. wrote:
    I'm currently using a standard mouse.˙ And I'm interested in some first
    hand feedback on standard mice vs. a trackball type of mouse.
    Especially one that looks like the mouse has been tipped over on it's
    side and a big ball put under the thumb.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8B6YF48

    Did you have wrist pain? and did it help?˙ Do you find it as good as
    some critics say?
    That kind of stuff.
    Thanks

    I have a Logitech TrackMan Wheel here -- still in its original box --
    tried it and did not like it.

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  • From red floyd@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 22, 2026 20:41:03
    On 6/21/2026 4:15 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 21/06/2026 7:56 am, red floyd wrote:
    On 6/20/2026 3:10 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    <Snip>

    ˙˙ If you want, you can have a look which kind of mice fall in the Large >>> category:

    <https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/choosing-the-right-mouse.html>

    ˙˙ That's the English version of the Dutch webshop, so not for buying,
    but for getting information.

    ˙˙ HTH.

    I love my Razer Deathaddr Essential (wired).

    I may attach a wireless to my desktop as well to try the swapping trick
    with a second mouse configured for lefty.˙˙ I may even go as far as
    buying a left handed mouse for that.

    'buy'?? Can't you get into your mouse's system setting and re-configure things there, i.e. swap Left Button and Right Button actions??

    I prefer the ones that are shaped to fit the appropriate hand. Take a
    look at my preferred right handed mouse to see what I'm talking about.


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