• Iplayer volume

    From pinnerite@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 22:28:27

    I have recently started to watch BBC iplayer on my computer
    for selected programmes such as SAS Rogue Heroes.

    Eveery time I get it up on Firefox, the volume is too low.

    When I bring up Pulseaudio I hsave to drag the slider to 153%
    I would like to fix it.

    Is there any fix?

    TIA

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  • From TheLastSysop@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 21:33:08
    On Tue, 2 Jun 2026 22:28:27 +0100, pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have recently started to watch BBC iplayer on my computer
    for selected programmes such as SAS Rogue Heroes.

    Eveery time I get it up on Firefox, the volume is too low.

    When I bring up Pulseaudio I hsave to drag the slider to 153%
    I would like to fix it.

    Is there any fix?

    TIA

    A safe first step is to check what PulseAudio thinks Firefox's application volume is while iPlayer is actually playing.

    Open Sound Settings, or run pavucontrol if you have it installed:

    sudo apt install pavucontrol
    pavucontrol

    Then look on the Playback tab while the programme is playing. Firefox should appear as a playback stream. Set that stream to 100%, and also check that it is
    using the expected output device.

    If PulseAudio has remembered a silly per-application volume for Firefox, you can
    reset the saved stream volumes by closing Firefox and running:

    rm ~/.config/pulse/*stream-volumes.tdb
    pulseaudio -k

    Then start Firefox again and try iPlayer. Mint may restart PulseAudio for you; if not, log out and back in.

    If only BBC iPlayer is quiet and other Firefox sites are normal, the other workaround is Firefox's about:config setting:

    media.volume_scale

    The default is 1.0. Setting it to something like 1.5 boosts HTML5 media in Firefox, but that affects all Firefox media, so I would try the PulseAudio reset
    first.

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 02, 2026 18:36:48
    On Tue, 6/2/2026 5:28 PM, pinnerite wrote:

    I have recently started to watch BBC iplayer on my computer
    for selected programmes such as SAS Rogue Heroes.

    Eveery time I get it up on Firefox, the volume is too low.

    When I bring up Pulseaudio I hsave to drag the slider to 153%
    I would like to fix it.

    Is there any fix?

    TIA


    This can be a packaging problem, when software used for
    preparing Hollywood titles is used for production work.
    I don't know the exact level, but it might be -15 dB.
    This leaves lots of room so there is no "overload" on
    the audio channel -- but for as long as this has existed,
    no customer using the crappy stuff has been particularly happy
    with this choice-point. (I've had complaints back home
    about not being able to set telly loud enough to fix it.)
    When an advert cuts in, the volume must be adjusted, once again.

    On the computer end, it is possible to pass a title
    directly to a hardware decoder, leaving little chance
    for volume controls to work. For example, if the soundtrack
    had AC3, and you sent the audio signal over SPDIF to your
    receiver, the volume is not adjustable until the AC3 is
    decoded... on the receiver. The receiver volume
    control, is the control to use. It's when the player
    decodes the audio within the computing box, you get
    a chance to adjust something at the PC level.

    *******

    In a quick Google, apparently some digital TV sets
    have an "auto volume" feature. But the comment did not
    mention whether an HDMI input fares the same way as
    a broadcast reception channel (which is also digital).
    Presumably like all software features, there is a
    gotcha in there somewhere.

    *******

    Only if absolutely every bit of audio content, passed
    through a single path in the PC, could we have
    guaranteed control of something. You cannot for example,
    decode AC3, adjust the volume, re-encode AC3 and
    pass it over SPDIF to a receiver. To do so, costs
    a latency of 500msec to do that with a CPU. An attempt
    was made, to add a DSP to a chipset (I have one of these),
    where the AC3 encode takes 50msec, and while that is not
    perfect, that gets the latency down a bit. It would have
    to be below 30msec to be usable. While you can adjust the
    delay between video stream and audio stream to fix that,
    it's still a pretty fraught situation, to start buggering
    around with lip sync. Nobody wins when you do that.
    You're constantly adjusting stuff.

    If you could yt-dlp the content, you could work on this,
    adjust levels in your video editor, put it in the can
    and play it from your streaming server. But what
    are the odds that the BBC DRM will allow this, or that
    a way exists to crack it your own self.

    While I have volume-up and volume-down buttons on my multimedia
    keyboard, there's no guarantee those have to work in all situations.
    That at least, reduces the time to get a response. But to go
    from 11 down to 0 using the rubber buttons, could take 2 seconds,
    so it doesn't respond fast enough for practical purposes.

    Summary: TV set "auto-volume" selector or hit-the-road-Jack.

    Paul

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  • From pinnerite@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 03, 2026 22:24:02
    On Tue, 02 Jun 2026 21:33:08 GMT
    TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 Jun 2026 22:28:27 +0100, pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have recently started to watch BBC iplayer on my computer
    for selected programmes such as SAS Rogue Heroes.

    Eveery time I get it up on Firefox, the volume is too low.

    When I bring up Pulseaudio I hsave to drag the slider to 153%
    I would like to fix it.

    Is there any fix?

    TIA

    A safe first step is to check what PulseAudio thinks Firefox's application volume is while iPlayer is actually playing.

    Open Sound Settings, or run pavucontrol if you have it installed:

    sudo apt install pavucontrol
    pavucontrol

    Then look on the Playback tab while the programme is playing. Firefox should appear as a playback stream. Set that stream to 100%, and also check that it is
    using the expected output device.

    If PulseAudio has remembered a silly per-application volume for Firefox, you can
    reset the saved stream volumes by closing Firefox and running:

    rm ~/.config/pulse/*stream-volumes.tdb

    No such file or directory. Just /home/alan/.config/pulse/cookie

    pulseaudio -k

    Then start Firefox again and try iPlayer. Mint may restart PulseAudio for you;
    if not, log out and back in.

    If only BBC iPlayer is quiet and other Firefox sites are normal, the other workaround is Firefox's about:config setting:

    media.volume_scale

    The default is 1.0. Setting it to something like 1.5 boosts HTML5 media in Firefox, but that affects all Firefox media, so I would try the PulseAudio reset
    first.

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    "I survived the great rm -rf / rehearsal and all I got was this .signature."


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  • From TheLastSysop@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 04, 2026 12:12:58
    On Wed, 3 Jun 2026 22:24:02 +0100, pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Jun 2026 21:33:08 GMT
    TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 Jun 2026 22:28:27 +0100, pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote: >> >
    I have recently started to watch BBC iplayer on my computer
    for selected programmes such as SAS Rogue Heroes.

    Eveery time I get it up on Firefox, the volume is too low.

    When I bring up Pulseaudio I hsave to drag the slider to 153%
    I would like to fix it.

    Is there any fix?

    TIA

    A safe first step is to check what PulseAudio thinks Firefox's application >> volume is while iPlayer is actually playing.

    Open Sound Settings, or run pavucontrol if you have it installed:

    sudo apt install pavucontrol
    pavucontrol

    Then look on the Playback tab while the programme is playing. Firefox should
    appear as a playback stream. Set that stream to 100%, and also check that it
    is
    using the expected output device.

    If PulseAudio has remembered a silly per-application volume for Firefox, you >> can
    reset the saved stream volumes by closing Firefox and running:

    rm ~/.config/pulse/*stream-volumes.tdb

    No such file or directory. Just /home/alan/.config/pulse/cookie

    pulseaudio -k

    Then start Firefox again and try iPlayer. Mint may restart PulseAudio for >> you;
    if not, log out and back in.

    If only BBC iPlayer is quiet and other Firefox sites are normal, the other >> workaround is Firefox's about:config setting:

    media.volume_scale

    The default is 1.0. Setting it to something like 1.5 boosts HTML5 media in >> Firefox, but that affects all Firefox media, so I would try the PulseAudio >> reset
    first.

    --
    TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null>
    "I survived the great rm -rf / rehearsal and all I got was this .signature."

    That just means PulseAudio has no saved per-application stream volume to remove,
    so there was nothing to reset in that directory. The cookie file is normal; leave it alone.

    In that case I would try the Firefox setting next. In Firefox, open:

    about:config

    Search for:

    media.volume_scale

    If it does not already exist, create it as a string. Try 1.5 first, then restart the iPlayer tab. If it is still too quiet, try 2.0. This affects all HTML5 media in Firefox, so set it back to 1.0 if YouTube or other sites become too loud.

    Also check pavucontrol while iPlayer is actually playing, not before. The Playback tab only shows the Firefox stream while sound is coming from the page.

    --
    TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null>
    "I survived the great rm -rf / rehearsal and all I got was this .signature."

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  • From pinnerite@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 08, 2026 22:10:23
    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 12:12:58 GMT
    TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> wrote:

    On Wed, 3 Jun 2026 22:24:02 +0100, pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote: >On Tue, 02 Jun 2026 21:33:08 GMT
    TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 Jun 2026 22:28:27 +0100, pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote: >> >
    I have recently started to watch BBC iplayer on my computer
    for selected programmes such as SAS Rogue Heroes.

    Eveery time I get it up on Firefox, the volume is too low.

    When I bring up Pulseaudio I hsave to drag the slider to 153%
    I would like to fix it.

    Is there any fix?

    TIA

    A safe first step is to check what PulseAudio thinks Firefox's application >> volume is while iPlayer is actually playing.

    Open Sound Settings, or run pavucontrol if you have it installed:

    sudo apt install pavucontrol
    pavucontrol

    Then look on the Playback tab while the programme is playing. Firefox should
    appear as a playback stream. Set that stream to 100%, and also check that it
    is
    using the expected output device.

    If PulseAudio has remembered a silly per-application volume for Firefox, you
    can
    reset the saved stream volumes by closing Firefox and running:

    rm ~/.config/pulse/*stream-volumes.tdb

    No such file or directory. Just /home/alan/.config/pulse/cookie

    pulseaudio -k

    Then start Firefox again and try iPlayer. Mint may restart PulseAudio for >> you;
    if not, log out and back in.

    If only BBC iPlayer is quiet and other Firefox sites are normal, the other >> workaround is Firefox's about:config setting:

    media.volume_scale

    The default is 1.0. Setting it to something like 1.5 boosts HTML5 media in
    Firefox, but that affects all Firefox media, so I would try the PulseAudio >> reset
    first.

    --
    TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null>
    "I survived the great rm -rf / rehearsal and all I got was this .signature."

    That just means PulseAudio has no saved per-application stream volume to remove,
    so there was nothing to reset in that directory. The cookie file is normal; leave it alone.

    In that case I would try the Firefox setting next. In Firefox, open:

    about:config

    Search for:

    media.volume_scale

    If it does not already exist, create it as a string. Try 1.5 first, then restart the iPlayer tab. If it is still too quiet, try 2.0. This affects all
    HTML5 media in Firefox, so set it back to 1.0 if YouTube or other sites become
    too loud.

    Also check pavucontrol while iPlayer is actually playing, not before. The Playback tab only shows the Firefox stream while sound is coming from the page.

    --
    TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null>
    "I survived the great rm -rf / rehearsal and all I got was this .signature."

    The about:config suggestion workerd perfecly at 2.0.
    Thank you
    Alan




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