On 2026-03-14 17:25, micky wrote:
I went to visit a friend in NJ and someone in his family brought up
Google Docs, and recommended it for him I thought the major feature of
Google Docs was that files were stored in the cloud but the wikip
article doesn't even mention that (or barely if I missed it).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Docs
Okay "while collaborating with users in real-time." implies that it's
online, at least during editing.
Doesn't one have to learn at least a few things about google docs to use
it. My friend, 83 yo, can learn new things, but doesn't really want to.
If someone only works at home or at work or when he takes his laptop
with him, and when none of that is true, he wants to be "on vacation"
and free of computer chores, there is no point to google docs, is there?
I use google docs solely for one purpose: documents that I want to
access on my phone. Like a spreadsheet of car expenses. I also access
the same docs on the computer.
Once I used a text document, a list of things to do, me in Europe, my
cousin in Canada. It was curious when we both were writing, we could
chat using it.
You can export the file to local storage, too.
For normal usage on the computer, I use Libre Office alone.
Not a pending problem, just FYI: I've copied about 35,000 files that he wrote, he downloaded, or which have a user extension, and every one of
35,000 copied fine on the first try except the only two .doc files,
which, strangely enough, worked fine when I clicked on them on his
harddrive (which I removed from the laptop with the broken screen). (He
wrote those two files too, with the same name, found in a directory and
its sub-directory, only 4 short lines long.)
I am curious what would make a file NOT copy with XXCopy (which I
think uses Xcopy for the actual copy step), whether or not it could
actually be read, especially since it could be read with no problem.
I've been copying my friend's old hard drive to a flash drive...
Not a pending problem, just FYI: I've copied about 35,000 files that he wrote, he downloaded, or which have a user extension, and every one of
35,000 copied fine on the first try except the only two .doc files,
which, strangely enough, worked fine when I clicked on them on his
harddrive (which I removed from the laptop with the broken screen)...
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
I've been copying my friend's old hard drive to a flash drive...
Not a pending problem, just FYI: I've copied about 35,000 files that he
wrote, he downloaded, or which have a user extension, and every one of
35,000 copied fine on the first try except the only two .doc files,
which, strangely enough, worked fine when I clicked on them on his
harddrive (which I removed from the laptop with the broken screen)...
What was the flash drive formatted with? My guess would be copying from
NTFS to FAT,
and finding different restrictions between them. There's a
pile of file naming issues that can confuse tools (are you comfortable >sharing file names?)
- M
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
I've been copying my friend's old hard drive to a flash drive...
Not a pending problem, just FYI: I've copied about 35,000 files that he
wrote, he downloaded, or which have a user extension, and every one of
35,000 copied fine on the first try except the only two .doc files,
which, strangely enough, worked fine when I clicked on them on his
harddrive (which I removed from the laptop with the broken screen)...
What was the flash drive formatted with? My guess would be copying from
NTFS to FAT,
and finding different restrictions between them. There's a
pile of file naming issues that can confuse tools (are you comfortable >sharing file names?)
- M
My thoughts about using Google Docs would centre around the fact that
once Google has your Docs, Google HAS your Docs.
Mind you, that's just MY assumption (and you know what they say about
people who ASSUME!!).
--
Daniel70
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 15 Mar 2026 22:46:01 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:I would second the previously made suggestion of the free Libre Office.
My thoughts about using Google Docs would centre around the fact that
once Google has your Docs, Google HAS your Docs.
I think it was a grandchild who suggested google docs. They are too
young to be suspicious. Until after something goes wrong.
Mind you, that's just MY assumption (and you know what they say about
people who ASSUME!!).
Yes, I do.
--
Daniel70
The menu of Libreoffice is a lot easier to use that the labyrinth that
MS calls a menu.ÿ With Libreoffice, if you search for the function it
shows you where the function is located in the menu.ÿ With MS Office it gives you an active link to the functions.ÿ Great for one time use, but
the searching becomes burdensome in you are using the function all in
the document
On 03/15/2026 3:34 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 15 Mar 2026 22:46:01 +1100, Daniel70I would second the previously made suggestion of the free Libre Office.
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
My thoughts about using Google Docs would centre around the fact that
once Google has your Docs, Google HAS your Docs.
I think it was a grandchild who suggested google docs. They are too
young to be suspicious. Until after something goes wrong.
Mind you, that's just MY assumption (and you know what they say about
people who ASSUME!!).
Yes, I do.
--
Daniel70
In my experience it is completely compatible with MS office documents.
It is simpler to use than both MS Office and Google Docs. I takes a
lot to save a Google doc to your personal drive. If you send a
document to some one, you have to do a lot of playing with the file to
be able to read it. (I only use Google Docs if my grandson send one to me.)
The menu of Libreoffice is a lot easier to use that the labyrinth that
MS calls a menu. With Libreoffice, if you search for the function it
shows you where the function is located in the menu. With MS Office it gives you an active link to the functions. Great for one time use, but
the searching becomes burdensome in you are using the function all in
the document
knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:[]
I would second the previously made suggestion of the free Libre Office.
In my experience it is completely compatible with MS office documents.
Only the simplest text documents or spreadsheets. Any special formatting is difficult to maintain between office and libreoffice. Excel macros often don't work at all.
Powerpoint compatibility is just terrible.
It is simpler to use than both MS Office and Google Docs. I takes a
lot to save a Google doc to your personal drive. If you send a
document to some one, you have to do a lot of playing with the file to
be able to read it. (I only use Google Docs if my grandson send one to me.)
Obviously, using an unfamiliar system may seem complicated especially if
you force it to work in not the best way.
Googledocs aren't meant to be "sent" to people, but rather shared via
google. No saving nor playing required. The permissions can be a bit
fiddly, mind.
If you do want to save the file then you can save it as native Libre Office format pretty simply. Not sure what you mean by "lots of playing".
The menu of Libreoffice is a lot easier to use that the labyrinth that
MS calls a menu. With Libreoffice, if you search for the function it
shows you where the function is located in the menu. With MS Office it
gives you an active link to the functions. Great for one time use, but
the searching becomes burdensome in you are using the function all in
the document
On 03/15/2026 3:34 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 15 Mar 2026 22:46:01 +1100, Daniel70I would second the previously made suggestion of the free Libre Office.
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
My thoughts about using Google Docs would centre around the fact that
once Google has your Docs, Google HAS your Docs.
I think it was a grandchild who suggested google docs. They are too
young to be suspicious. Until after something goes wrong.
Mind you, that's just MY assumption (and you know what they say about
people who ASSUME!!).
Yes, I do.
--
Daniel70
In my experience it is completely compatible with MS office documents.
It is simpler to use than both MS Office and Google Docs. I takes a
lot to save a Google doc to your personal drive. If you send a
document to some one, you have to do a lot of playing with the file to
be able to read it. (I only use Google Docs if my grandson send one to me.)
The menu of Libreoffice is a lot easier to use that the labyrinth that
MS calls a menu. With Libreoffice, if you search for the function it
shows you where the function is located in the menu. With MS Office it
gives you an active link to the functions. Great for one time use, but
the searching becomes burdensome in you are using the function all in
the document
When it asks me if I want to save a document as .odt or .docx, I'm not
sure what to do If I leave it as .odt will the person I send it to who
only has Word be able to read an .odt? With no special efforts on his
part, just click on it?
Becasue I was not sure the answer above is Yes, I've saving files as
.docx or .doc, whatever LO suggest in that box, but then it warns me
that special features from LO may not be carried over. I don't use
special features, except maybe Bold and colored tex. These seem old and pretty basic. Surely these would be carried over to MS Office, right???
I'll have to check that out. I really should use LO more often instead
of notepad or ++. Plus-plus has a really wierd method of new lines, paragraphs, etc.
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 15 Mar 2026 16:53:59 -0400, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 03/15/2026 3:34 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 15 Mar 2026 22:46:01 +1100, Daniel70I would second the previously made suggestion of the free Libre Office.
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
My thoughts about using Google Docs would centre around the fact that
once Google has your Docs, Google HAS your Docs.
I think it was a grandchild who suggested google docs. They are too
young to be suspicious. Until after something goes wrong.
Mind you, that's just MY assumption (and you know what they say about
people who ASSUME!!).
Yes, I do.
--
Daniel70
In my experience it is completely compatible with MS office documents.
When it asks me if I want to save a document as .odt or .docx, I'm not
sure what to do If I leave it as .odt will the person I send it to who
only has Word be able to read an .odt? With no special efforts on his
part, just click on it?
Becasue I was not sure the answer above is Yes, I've saving files as
.docx or .doc, whatever LO suggest in that box, but then it warns me
that special features from LO may not be carried over. I don't use
special features, except maybe Bold and colored tex. These seem old and pretty basic. Surely these would be carried over to MS Office, right???
It is simpler to use than both MS Office and Google Docs. I takes a
lot to save a Google doc to your personal drive. If you send a
document to some one, you have to do a lot of playing with the file to
be able to read it. (I only use Google Docs if my grandson send one to me.) >>
The menu of Libreoffice is a lot easier to use that the labyrinth that
MS calls a menu. With Libreoffice, if you search for the function it
shows you where the function is located in the menu. With MS Office it
I'll have to check that out. I really should use LO more often instead
of notepad or ++. Plus-plus has a really wierd method of new lines, paragraphs, etc.
gives you an active link to the functions. Great for one time use, but
the searching becomes burdensome in you are using the function all in
the document
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