• Windows 11 improvements

    From knuttle@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 18:01:50
    I found another Windows 11 improvement. In Windows 10 when I wanted to
    run a infrequently used program, I would open the Start menu, click All, scroll down the list and click what I wanted. about 5 to 10 seconds.

    In Windows 11 with the improved start menu, I click on the Start, spend
    15 seconds trying to guess which folder my program was in, spend another
    15 to 20 seconds opening different folder looking for my program, and
    when I finally find the folder, clicking my program.

    That is quite an improvement over Windows 11.

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 21:43:22
    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I found another Windows 11 improvement. In Windows 10 when I wanted to
    run a infrequently used program, I would open the Start menu, click All, scroll down the list and click what I wanted. about 5 to 10 seconds.

    In Windows 11 with the improved start menu, I click on the Start, spend
    15 seconds trying to guess which folder my program was in, spend another
    15 to 20 seconds opening different folder looking for my program, and
    when I finally find the folder, clicking my program.

    That is quite an improvement over Windows 11.

    You could just click on the Start Menu icon in the taskbar, and start
    typing the name of the program. For example, click Start, and type
    "ccleaner" to find that program. A popup list appears showing all the
    matches, so just click on the best match.

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  • From Alan K.@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 23:12:03
    On 1/15/26 6:01 PM, knuttle wrote:
    I found another Windows 11 improvement. In Windows 10 when I wanted to
    run a infrequently used program, I would open the Start menu, click All, scroll down the list and click what I wanted. about 5 to 10 seconds.

    In Windows 11 with the improved start menu, I click on the Start, spend
    15 seconds trying to guess which folder my program was in, spend another
    15 to 20 seconds opening different folder looking for my program, and
    when I finally find the folder, clicking my program.

    That is quite an improvement over Windows 11.
    If you click the little 'all' on the start menu and get the same alpha list you had in
    windows 10.

    --
    Linux Mint 22.3, Mozilla Thunderbird 140.6.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 146.0.1
    Alan K.

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  • From ...w¡ñ?±?ñ@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 15, 2026 21:37:31
    knuttle wrote on 1/15/2026 4:01 PM:
    I found another Windows 11 improvement.ÿÿ In Windows 10 when I wanted to
    run a infrequently used program, I would open the Start menu, click All, scroll down the list and click what I wanted.ÿ about 5 to 10 seconds.

    In Windows 11 with the improved start menu, I click on the Start, spend
    15 seconds trying to guess which folder my program was in, spend another
    15 to 20 seconds opening different folder looking for my program, and
    when I finally find the folder, clicking my program.

    That is quite an improvement over Windows 11.

    Multiple methods using the Start Menu to access seldom used programs and
    apps.
    As VGH noted, click Start button, begin typing name of program, select
    and run.

    A savvy person might even do more...Create a group on the Start
    Menu(labeled e.g. Seldom Use), pin the program to the Start Menu, drag to
    the group. A few clicks(less than 10 seconds, less than 5 after wrote learning) is all that is necessary.

    Bottom line - learn how to use the features whether the os and its
    features are liked or not liked.

    --
    ...w­¤?ñ?¤

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  • From Bob Henson@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 09:55:52
    On 15/1/26 11:01 pm, knuttle wrote:
    I found another Windows 11 improvement. In Windows 10 when I wanted to
    run a infrequently used program, I would open the Start menu, click All, scroll down the list and click what I wanted. about 5 to 10 seconds.

    In Windows 11 with the improved start menu, I click on the Start, spend
    15 seconds trying to guess which folder my program was in, spend another
    15 to 20 seconds opening different folder looking for my program, and
    when I finally find the folder, clicking my program.

    That is quite an improvement over Windows 11.

    The easiest way is to install OpenShell and go back to an efficient,
    ergonomic menu system.

    --
    Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

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  • From s|b@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 13:38:13
    On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 21:43:22 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

    You could just click on the Start Menu icon in the taskbar,

    Or simply press the Windows key.

    --
    s|b

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 16:31:05
    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 18:01:50 -0500, knuttle wrote:

    I found another Windows 11 improvement. In Windows 10 when I wanted to run a infrequently used program, I would open the Start menu, click All, scroll down the list and click what I wanted. about 5 to 10 seconds.

    In Windows 11 with the improved start menu, I click on the Start, spend
    15 seconds trying to guess which folder my program was in, spend another
    15 to 20 seconds opening different folder looking for my program, and
    when I finally find the folder, clicking my program.

    That is quite an improvement over Windows 11.

    You're supposed to use 'Search'. That will spawn Edge and take you
    someplace you never wanted to go.

    I don't know how you've configured things, but for me 'Search' just
    goes to the search function of the Start menu. Edge is not involved, unless/until one of the results is a link and you click on that.

    But, as others mentioned, Real Men (TM) use Open-Shell Menu or
    something similar.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 16:39:30
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    VanguardLH wrote:

    You could just click on the Start Menu icon in the taskbar, and start typing the name of the program. For example, click Start, and type "ccleaner" to find that program.

    Doesn't work when you type "oh ... thingy, you know the utility that
    does [whatever] what's its name, with the orange icon"

    Shame on you! Don't you know that these days you're not supposed to
    mention anything with that colour!

    --
    We want New York back!

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 10:57:43
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    You could just click on the Start Menu icon in the taskbar, and start
    typing the name of the program. For example, click Start, and type
    "ccleaner" to find that program.

    Doesn't work when you type "oh ... thingy, you know the utility that
    does [whatever] what's its name, with the orange icon"

    You intend to run a program or start an app, but you don't know what it
    is called? Hmm, seems you need Copilot. I disabled it, so I don't know
    if click Start will do a Copilot search, but you could add or leave
    displayed the Search box in the taskbar. For me, clicking Start or
    using the Search box did the same search, so I got rid of the Search box
    to give more room in the taskbar.

    You want to use CCleaner. Click Start and enter "ccleaner" (actually
    will show a popup list as you type from which you can choose before even completing your input).

    You want to use Word. Click Start and enter "word".

    You want to use Calculator. Click Start and enter "calc".

    You want to change the DPI. Click Start and enter "dpi". Settings will
    be a choice.

    You should know what you want; else, how would the Start Manu -> All
    programs be of any help since you won't know what to look for?

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 11:44:16
    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

    Frank Slootweg wrote:

    But, as others mentioned, Real Men (TM) use Open-Shell Menu or
    something similar.

    Real Men (TM) use Linux, preferably with the KDE DE.

    Real men do need desktop GUIs. A command shell is all that is needed.

    I use Start11. Guess that makes me a real man: tough, self-sufficient,
    strong, smart, rich, and desired by women. Oh, and arrogant, too.
    Excuse me for a moment while I muffle my giggles.

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 12:13:24
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    You intend to run a program or start an app, but you don't know what it
    is called?

    Sometimes names just aren't very catchy, the tool I often struggle to remember the name of is "WinDirStat"

    Probably can just enter "windir". Seems you use WinDirStat so rarely
    that you cannot remember its name, so I wonder why you keep it.

    I use WizTree (and TreeSize Free before that). Has the same bubble
    (treemap) display showing sizes that you see in WinDirStat. Actually
    that code is FOSS, lots of tools can have bubble map. It adds an entry
    in File Explorer's context menu. I use WizTree via File Explorer
    instead of starting WizTree from the Start menu whereupon I would have
    to navigate it to where I want to find sizes. When I'm checking sizes
    of folders, I'm already in File Explorer.

    WinDirStat doesn't add an entry to File Explorer's context menu?

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 13:15:58
    On Thu, 1/15/2026 11:37 PM, ...w­¤?ñ?¤ wrote:
    knuttle wrote on 1/15/2026 4:01 PM:
    I found another Windows 11 improvement.ÿÿ In Windows 10 when I wanted to run a infrequently used program, I would open the Start menu, click All, scroll down the list and click what I wanted.ÿ about 5 to 10 seconds.

    In Windows 11 with the improved start menu, I click on the Start, spend 15 seconds trying to guess which folder my program was in, spend another 15 to 20 seconds opening different folder looking for my program, and when I finally find the folder, clicking my program.

    That is quite an improvement over Windows 11.

    Multiple methods using the Start Menu to access seldom used programs and apps.
    ÿAs VGH noted, click Start button, begin typing name of program, select and run.

    ÿA savvy person might even do more...Create a group on the Start Menu(labeled e.g. Seldom Use), pin the program to the Start Menu, drag to the group. A few clicks(less than 10 seconds, less than 5 after wrote learning) is all that is necessary.

    Bottom line - learn how to use the features whether the os and its features are liked or not liked.


    In Windows 7, it too had a search, but if you typed enough
    of the name, the "visual clutter" was much reduced.

    I'm lucky, that most of the time I'm looking for "Agent Ransack",
    and since it begins at the beginning of the alphabet,
    I don't have to go through a ceremony to get it.

    [Picture] On PostImage use "Download Original" to avoid the adverts

    https://i.postimg.cc/1zm8xKgs/GUI-design.gif

    https://imgur.com/a/1KAYsFu

    Paul

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 18:45:19
    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On 16 Jan 2026 16:31:05 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    [...]
    You're supposed to use 'Search'. That will spawn Edge and take you
    someplace you never wanted to go.

    I don't know how you've configured things, but for me 'Search' just
    goes to the search function of the Start menu. Edge is not involved, unless/until one of the results is a link and you click on that.

    But, as others mentioned, Real Men (TM) use Open-Shell Menu or
    something similar.

    Real Men (TM) use Linux, preferably with the KDE DE.

    I used UNIX (HP-UX) with CDE. Does that count?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From s|b@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 16, 2026 20:40:38
    On 16 Jan 2026 17:15:36 GMT, rbowman wrote:

    Real Men (TM) use Linux, preferably with the KDE DE.

    I call 'no true Scotsman'.

    --
    s|b

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