• Re: Taking a community co

    From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to Digital Man on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 17:13:00
    I'm thinking of making a video series on programming in C and then later maybe C++. I've been reading a lot of (mostly C++) programming books in preparation for this project.

    I would really love this, and would following along 100%!

    I bet you have, but have you seen PY4E?
    https://www.py4e.com/

    Dr. Chuck offers free [and paid] courses and videos on Python that were REALLY awesome - they're on both youtube and paid sites, but his method of teaching [and outlining courses that might interest you in the above] is awesome.

    I'll be following if you launch this project, DM!



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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Digital Man on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 22:22:00
    On 16 Jan 2024, Digital Man said the following...

    I'm thinking of making a video series on programming in C and then later maybe C++. I've been reading a lot of (mostly C++) programming books in preparation for this project.
    My first video series will probably be a deconstruction/analysis of the 2nd edition of the K&R book (though yes, that's a really old version of
    C now).

    this is very cool, and i'm looking forward to it!

    i do enjoy reading my copy of the K&R book.. nostalgic.

    good luck!

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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Nightfox on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 22:52:00
    On 16 Jan 2024, Nightfox said the following...

    Sometimes I wondered why they chose the books they chose. I remember the initial book for the C++ classes seeming a bit complicated, at least compared to the book used by the CS teachers.

    i threw mine away.. it was one of those weird super thick programming books where the whole second half is just printouts of man pages. i also don't remember the example programs being particularly useful.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Digital Man on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 07:38:00
    Digital Man wrote to All <=-

    I'm thinking of making a video series on programming in C and
    then later maybe C++. I've been reading a lot of (mostly C++)
    programming books in preparation for this project.

    <SNIP>

    I would be VERY interested in following this! Sure hope you're able to
    do it, and thanks!



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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Digital Man on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 21:09:00
    On 17 Jan 2024, Digital Man said the following...

    I plan to take the follow-up C++ courses (at minimum) at this same community college and will hopefully get a better sense of what the
    other professors have to offer. I hope it gets better, but either way, it's been fun so far. --

    what do you do for homework, interactions in class, etc? are you pretending to be a noob or do they know what you're up to?

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to fusion on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 18:19:00
    Re: Re: Taking a community college CIS/C++ course
    By: fusion to Digital Man on Wed Jan 17 2024 09:09 pm

    On 17 Jan 2024, Digital Man said the following...

    I plan to take the follow-up C++ courses (at minimum) at this same community college and will hopefully get a better sense of what the other professors have to offer. I hope it gets better, but either way, it's been fun so far. --

    what do you do for homework, interactions in class, etc? are you pretending to be a noob or do they know what you're up to?

    It's an online course with about 40 students. I was honest about my background and reasons for taking the class. I'm not the only experienced programmer in the class (at least one other is a very experienced Java developer).

    The course work mostly is watching videos, reading chapters from the book (not really necessary), reading articles and discussing on a web-board or reading descriptions of assignments and then writing and submitting the source code that completes the assignment. It's a 6 week course, so it's pretty dense. 2 week in and I think I've submitted something like 15 assignments already (but very easy programming tasks for experienced C or C++ programmer, the time consuming part is just making sure that every trivial detail in the assignment description is addressed in the submitted code).

    I created a Discord server for the class and have been tutoring students there when I have time too.
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/THEGATEB to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, January 19, 2024 07:37:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Digital Man <=-

    I tutored a FORTRAN class with a particularly bad professor. Friends of mine would hang out after the class and I'd go over what he'd taught.

    Been there.

    I always felt cheated when colleges hire professors for their research capabity, but make them teach.

    I've had more than a couple of teachers/profs who fit the "How did repiles evolve? <teacher/prof> tried to teach fish how to swim" joke.


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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Digital Man on Friday, January 26, 2024 10:59:00
    Re: Re: Taking a community college CIS/C++ course
    By: Digital Man to fusion on Wed Jan 17 2024 06:19 pm

    I created a Discord server for the class and have been tutoring students there when I have time too.

    That's great of you!

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  • From anthk@VERT to All on Saturday, March 22, 2025 02:32:00
    On 2024-01-22, nelgin <EOTLBBS!nelgin@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    Re: Taking a community colleg
    By: Digital Man to Nopants on Sat Jan 20 2024 13:53:44

    Yeah, C is roughly a subset of C++. The languages have diverged and re-converged a bit over the years (and versions of their standards), but yeah, almost any experienced C++ programmer can program in C, though they often groan about it. :-)

    I think the thing that put me off learning C is the 1001 different compile options for gcc. If you're going to be working on more portable open source projects then there's a whole subset of stuff you problem need to know like the autoconf tools and the like.

    The code will run faster but I'm happy just to rip off a bit of perl and be done with it. no compilation, no makes files.

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