Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
On 2026-08-27 3:34 p.m., Recliner wrote:
This story is a direct follow-on:
Teacher found guilty of indecently assaulting teenage pupils
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0c959a28-4d3f-4627-853e-c544435212b0?shareToken=b425f389a262ab57a4e2301cd78210d4
"... and the ?victims? were probably enthusiastic participants..."
How do you know?
Their participation was entirely voluntary, and repeated many times.
On 28/08/2026 09:26, Recliner wrote:
Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
On 2026-08-27 3:34 p.m., Recliner wrote:
This story is a direct follow-on:
Teacher found guilty of indecently assaulting teenage pupils
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0c959a28-4d3f-4627-853e-c544435212b0?shareToken=b425f389a262ab57a4e2301cd78210d4
"... and the ?victims? were probably enthusiastic participants..."
How do you know?
Their participation was entirely voluntary, and repeated many times.
One "complainant" had sex with her 20-30 times and regarded her as his >girlfriend, another snogged her in a cafe after being egged on by his >friends?
What i don't understand is why they brought up these complaints so long >after the event.
On 28/08/2026 03:05, Nobody wrote:
On 2026-08-27 3:34 p.m., Recliner wrote:
This story is a direct follow-on:
Teacher found guilty of indecently assaulting teenage pupils
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0c959a28-4d3f-4627-853e-
c544435212b0?shareToken=b425f389a262ab57a4e2301cd78210d4
"... and the ?victims? were probably enthusiastic participants..."
How do you know?
We don't know, hence the "probably".ÿ My hazy recollection of male
teenage pupils is that we were desperate to participate enthusiastically
with anything vaguely resembling a woman.
Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
On 2026-08-27 3:34 p.m., Recliner wrote:
This story is a direct follow-on:
Teacher found guilty of indecently assaulting teenage pupils
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0c959a28-4d3f-4627-853e-c544435212b0?shareToken=b425f389a262ab57a4e2301cd78210d4
"... and the ?victims? were probably enthusiastic participants..."
How do you know?
Their participation was entirely voluntary, and repeated many times.
On 28/08/2026 09:27, Certes wrote:I have to say, you have fairly impressive recall of someone who "didn't
On 28/08/2026 03:05, Nobody wrote:
On 2026-08-27 3:34 p.m., Recliner wrote:
This story is a direct follow-on:
Teacher found guilty of indecently assaulting teenage pupils
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0c959a28-4d3f-4627-853e-
c544435212b0?shareToken=b425f389a262ab57a4e2301cd78210d4
"... and the ?victims? were probably enthusiastic participants..."
How do you know?
We don't know, hence the "probably".ÿ My hazy recollection of male
teenage pupils is that we were desperate to participate enthusiastically
with anything vaguely resembling a woman.
I remember when I was in the sixth form in the early 1980s, there was a young woman art teacher. She was a willowy, thin-as-a-rake woman in her mid-twenties who looked and moved like a catwalk model. She?d got long tousled blonde hair and a cut-glass accent... though if her strangulated vowels were the result of elocution lessons, she should have demanded
her money back because in unguarded moments she kept letting slip her
native Black Countray vowels. In my opinion, her hair looked as if she?d been dragged through a hedge backwards, though it probably took her hairdresser many hours to achieve that artistically tangled effect. Her make-up was unsubtle and overdone, as if she applied it with a trowel
and a paint roller. Her perfume was cheap and tarty, and she left a
spoor behind her which was so strong that even a bloodhound with a
severe cold could track her movements several days later. When she took Private Study in the library, she prowled up and down the rows, often wearing an absurd-looking poncho that had long tassels around its edges, peering intrusively over people?s shoulders to look at their work, and making almost inaudible, faintly orgasmic moaning noises. She was bloody scary!
The general impression among my mates was that she didn?t do anything
for them at all.
On 2026-08-28 1:26 a.m., Recliner wrote:
Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
On 2026-08-27 3:34 p.m., Recliner wrote:
This story is a direct follow-on:
Teacher found guilty of indecently assaulting teenage pupils
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0c959a28-4d3f-4627-853e-c544435212b0?shareToken=b425f389a262ab57a4e2301cd78210d4
"... and the ?victims? were probably enthusiastic participants..."
How do you know?
Their participation was entirely voluntary, and repeated many times.
Hmmm... eeehhh... you say, entirely.ÿ But?
The situation involved a person of authority who was employed in a
position of trust... and the complainants at the time regardless were
minors (despite whore moans and all that...).
The perp should've known better.ÿ She repeated the offence knowingly.
There have been separate cases (one in Aotearoa NZ, another in British
On 29/08/2026 01:41, Nobody wrote:
On 2026-08-28 1:26 a.m., Recliner wrote:
Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
On 2026-08-27 3:34 p.m., Recliner wrote:
This story is a direct follow-on:
Teacher found guilty of indecently assaulting teenage pupils
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0c959a28-4d3f-4627-853e-c544435212b0?shareToken=b425f389a262ab57a4e2301cd78210d4
"... and the ?victims? were probably enthusiastic participants..."
How do you know?
Their participation was entirely voluntary, and repeated many times.
Hmmm... eeehhh... you say, entirely.ÿ But?
The situation involved a person of authority who was employed in a position of trust... and the complainants at the time regardless were minors (despite whore moans and all that...).
The perp should've known better.ÿ She repeated the offence knowingly.
There have been separate cases (one in Aotearoa NZ, another in British
Agreed, the problem is it took place many years ago, the offender is unlikely to re-offend now and the case took up valuable court time and
money at a time when both are in extremely short supply for more urgent
and serious cases.
Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> posted:
On 29/08/2026 01:41, Nobody wrote:
On 2026-08-28 1:26 a.m., Recliner wrote:
Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
On 2026-08-27 3:34 p.m., Recliner wrote:
This story is a direct follow-on:
Teacher found guilty of indecently assaulting teenage pupils
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0c959a28-4d3f-4627-853e-c544435212b0?shareToken=b425f389a262ab57a4e2301cd78210d4
"... and the ?victims? were probably enthusiastic participants..."
How do you know?
Their participation was entirely voluntary, and repeated many times.
Hmmm... eeehhh... you say, entirely.ÿ But?
The situation involved a person of authority who was employed in a
position of trust... and the complainants at the time regardless were
minors (despite whore moans and all that...).
The perp should've known better.ÿ She repeated the offence knowingly.
There have been separate cases (one in Aotearoa NZ, another in British
Agreed, the problem is it took place many years ago, the offender is
unlikely to re-offend now and the case took up valuable court time and
money at a time when both are in extremely short supply for more urgent
and serious cases.
Maybe it *is* serious because some to many
seem to think there was no problem at all.
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
In message <1169uhd$fftn$1@dont-email.me>, at 16:31:41 on Fri, 21 Aug
2026, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
And this about camera systems on service trains for track monitoringAs far as I know the images from the OHLE cameras (which have beenNot so
fitted on Electrostars for ages) are only used after the wires have
been pulled down.
https://www.transmissiondynamics.com/products/pandas-v-pantograph-mon >>>>itoring/pandas-ai-rail-monitoring/
https://newsroom.southeasternrailway.co.uk/news/innovative-on-board-ca >>>mera-programme-expanded
Well at least they which handful of trains they've installed it on. Has
the feel of a pilot project. Let me know when they've fitted out let's
say a third of the UK train fleet.
Are you an avid Daily Telegraph reader? That paper has relentless negative >outlook on life, presumably catering for its ageing readership.
In message <116alh7$msm1$1@dont-email.me>, at 00:04:06 on Sat, 22 Aug
2026, hounslow3 <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> remarked:
On Southern Region, two boxes each containing a rear-illuminatedThat reminds me that I have seen some EMUs with a box mounted at >>>>>>the end. The box has two openings, which resemble small windows.
What are those?
Sounds like route indicators.
??
digit indicating the route, e.g. 63 = Waterloo-Basingstoke.? The
boxes at the back would show a red blind instead.
Elsewhere, four boxes with the full train reporting number, e.g.
1A23.
Oh, no, it was an externally mounted piece of equipment at the end of
the train, down by the coupler. It was similar to an EOTD, it was
white, but it was larger and had what appeared to be two smaller
windows on it.
Could be either conventional "black box" CCTV, or even one of the
infra-red track monitoring devices whose pilot study was mentioned
earlier.
How new did they look.
Which classes of UK trains has that been fitted to? They don't appear to
say.
It?s not hard to find out, and for a price even you can afford
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
In message <11694hm$6e7q$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:08:06 on Fri, 21 Aug
2026, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
The flying banana has been anlysing rail gemotry at up to 125mph for
years, hasn't it?
As to the OHLE cameras the first I remember seeing were on the 379s.
At the time it was said they were there not for the benefit of Network >>>> Rail but to resolve disputes about whose fault it was that the
knitting got broken.
Yes, the flying banana has been doing this for years. I?m not sure >>>about today, but when introduced the analysis was done offline not
in real time. The kit also takes up a lot of space. But now real
time image processing has progressed greatly, this is what
driverless cars do. So it?s not beyond the bounds of reasonably
priced technology to routinely check the track via service trains.
But as we all know, the railways won't deploy that technology because
the cost/benefit is too small.
How do you know they?re not deploying it?
And this about camera systems on service trains for track monitoring
https://newsroom.southeasternrailway.co.uk/news/innovative-on-board-camera-programme-expanded
Well at least they which handful of trains they've installed it on. Has
the feel of a pilot project. Let me know when they've fitted out let's
say a third of the UK train fleet.
Remember this previous exchange, when you grandly informed us that, ?But as >we all know, the railways won't deploy that technology because the >cost/benefit is too small?? It was Tweed?s turn to prove you wrong, but >instead of thanking him for enlightening you, you yet again take the most >negative possible view, by failing to read the story properly.
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com>
wrote:
On 19/08/2026 17:31, NY wrote:St Trinian's lives ?
On 19/08/2026 15:07, Sam Wilson wrote:
My geography teacher was a gauche lad not much older than us who wasWith leather patches on the elbows and knees?
Could be, though tending into geography teacher territory, there!
very easily embarrassed by anything that was slightly suggestive. When >>>> he mentioned "cleavage planes" (a geological term) and mumbled something >>>> about "cleavage" having another meaning, we knew we'd got him on the
ropes and from then on we tried to work the term into every question we >>>> asked him. Could have been worse: if he'd taught at girls' High School >>>> next door rather than at the boys' Grammar School, I bet some of the
girls there would have been only too happy to demonstrate the "other
meaning", to further his education ;-)
Hah, my geography teacher (who was also my form teacher) was rather like >>> that - not long out of teacher training, and cursed with boyish good looks. >>>
The last straw was when one of the girls (and we must have been around
14 at this point) essentially lured him into the store-room at the back >>> of the Geography hut/form-room, and then a gaggle of her girlfriends
held the door shut while she sexually assaulted him. He gave up
teaching not long after (and was replaced by the bearded and
not-at-all-boyish head of Physics.)
My geography teacher was a lass with lots of long blonde hair who was
hardly any older than the class she was teaching. (cont'd p.94)
This story is a direct follow-on:
Teacher found guilty of indecently assaulting teenage pupils
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0c959a28-4d3f-4627-853e-c544435212b0?shareToken=b425f389a262ab57a4e2301cd78210d4
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the
WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury
service there ? perhaps you have, too?).
Considering that the ?crimes?
happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were >probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably >costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired >ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat >the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
With one exception for a Coroner's Court, nobody ever seemed to be
called for jury service in my job.
In message <q5v69lhcria2voll9cnso8i8a7bdj4d56t@4ax.com>, at 01:52:24 on
Sun, 30 Aug 2026, Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com>
remarked:
With one exception for a Coroner's Court, nobody ever seemed to be
called for jury service in my job.
I've never been called for jury service, perhaps because I tend to move >house every few years and they can't keep up. Only two years left.
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com>
wrote:
On 19/08/2026 17:31, NY wrote:St Trinian's lives ?
On 19/08/2026 15:07, Sam Wilson wrote:
My geography teacher was a gauche lad not much older than us who wasWith leather patches on the elbows and knees?
Could be, though tending into geography teacher territory, there!
very easily embarrassed by anything that was slightly suggestive. When >>>> he mentioned "cleavage planes" (a geological term) and mumbled something >>>> about "cleavage" having another meaning, we knew we'd got him on the
ropes and from then on we tried to work the term into every question we >>>> asked him. Could have been worse: if he'd taught at girls' High School >>>> next door rather than at the boys' Grammar School, I bet some of the
girls there would have been only too happy to demonstrate the "other
meaning", to further his education ;-)
Hah, my geography teacher (who was also my form teacher) was rather like >>> that - not long out of teacher training, and cursed with boyish good looks. >>>
The last straw was when one of the girls (and we must have been around
14 at this point) essentially lured him into the store-room at the back >>> of the Geography hut/form-room, and then a gaggle of her girlfriends
held the door shut while she sexually assaulted him. He gave up
teaching not long after (and was replaced by the bearded and
not-at-all-boyish head of Physics.)
My geography teacher was a lass with lots of long blonde hair who was
hardly any older than the class she was teaching. (cont'd p.94)
This story is a direct follow-on:
Teacher found guilty of indecently assaulting teenage pupils
https://www.thetimes.com/article/0c959a28-4d3f-4627-853e-c544435212b0?shareToken=b425f389a262ab57a4e2301cd78210d4
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the
WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury
service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com>
wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the
WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury
service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes?
happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were >> probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came >> to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat >> the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com>
wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the
WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury
service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes?
happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were >>> probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came >>> to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably >>> costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired >>> ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat >>> the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as >>> if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com>
wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury
service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the
?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it
eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time
(probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the
retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to
repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA?ÿ It?s
not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I
think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as "sir"......
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the
?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it
eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time
(probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the
retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to >>>>> repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA?ÿ It?s
not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I
think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as
"sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-)
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking >>>>> the
WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the
?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it
eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time
(probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the
retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely
to repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA?ÿ It?s
not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I
think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as
"sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-)
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the
?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it
eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time
(probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the
retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to >>>>> repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA?? It?s
not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I
think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as
"sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-)
On 03/09/2026 17:15, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking >>>>>> the
WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the
?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it
eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time
(probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the
retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely
to repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA?ÿ It?s >>>>>> not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I
think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as
"sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-)
They were both at least the same age as most of the boys' parents . And
any boy making inapprropriate suggestions would almost certainly have
only got a visit to the headmaster to receive a very sore bum......
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com>
wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury
service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably >>> costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired >>> ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as >>> if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I
think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as "sir"......
On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 18:15:30 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the
?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it
eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time
(probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the >>>>> retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to >>>>> repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA?ÿ It?s >>>>> not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I
think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as
"sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-)
Not for women, the laws only applied to men.
On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 18:15:30 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:Not for women, the laws only applied to men.
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I
think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as
"sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-)
On 04/09/2026 00:09, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 18:15:30 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:Not for women, the laws only applied to men.
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court >>>>>> told
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is >>>>> bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I >>>> think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as >>>> "sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws?
;-)
ÿIANAL but it seems 'unnatural' acts could be between a man and a woman.
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com>
wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury
service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were >>>> probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came >>>> to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably >>>> costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired >>>> ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as >>>> if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I
think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as "sir"......
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> posted:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 18:15:30 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:Not for women, the laws only applied to men.
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>>>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the
?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it
eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time
(probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the >>>>>>> retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to >>>>>>> repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA?ÿ It?s >>>>>>> not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is >>>>> bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I >>>> think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as >>>> "sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-) >>>
The schoolboys are young men by the law, aren't they?
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> posted:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 18:15:30 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:Not for women, the laws only applied to men.
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>>>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the
?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it
eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time
(probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the >>>>>>> retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to >>>>>>> repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA?ÿ It?s >>>>>>> not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is >>>>> bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I >>>> think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as >>>> "sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-) >>>
The schoolboys are young men by the law, aren't they?
On 04/09/2026 08:10, Ulf Kutzner wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> posted:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 18:15:30 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:Not for women, the laws only applied to men.
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the
WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes?
happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the
?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it
eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time >>>>>>> (probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the >>>>>>> retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to >>>>>>> repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA?ÿ It?s >>>>>>> not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try. >>>>>>>
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is >>>>> bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I >>>> think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as >>>> "sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-) >>>
The schoolboys are young men by the law, aren't they?
The change from "boy" to "man" depends upon the legal age of consent in
the country. In the UK this is 16
Bevan Price <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>
wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably >>>> costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as "sir"......
Wasn?t Margaret Thatcher regarded as an honorary man when she paid an official visit to Saudi Arabia?
Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> posted:
Bevan Price <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably >>>>>> costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is
bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I
think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as
"sir"......
Wasn?t Margaret Thatcher regarded as an honorary man when she paid an
official visit to Saudi Arabia?
And your latest Queen (and not only her) duke, not duchess, of Normandy?
Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> posted:
Bevan Price <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>>>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is >>>>> bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I >>>> think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as >>>> "sir"......
Wasn?t Margaret Thatcher regarded as an honorary man when she paid an
official visit to Saudi Arabia?
And your latest Queen (and not only her) duke, not duchess, of Normandy?
Very possibly, though I don?t remember there being as much fuss about it. Thatcher was always seen by the Tories as the best man for the job.
I?m pretty sure we gave up any claim on Normandy some time ago.
Sam
Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> posted:
Bevan Price <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the >>>>>>> WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is >>>>> bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I >>>> think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as >>>> "sir"......
Wasn?t Margaret Thatcher regarded as an honorary man when she paid an
official visit to Saudi Arabia?
And your latest Queen (and not only her) duke, not duchess, of Normandy?
Very possibly, though I don?t remember there being as much fuss about it. Thatcher was always seen by the Tories as the best man for the job.
I?m pretty sure we gave up any claim on Normandy some time ago.
Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> posted:
Bevan Price <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the
WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes?
happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try. >>>>>>>
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is >>>>> bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I >>>> think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as >>>> "sir"......
Wasn?t Margaret Thatcher regarded as an honorary man when she paid an
official visit to Saudi Arabia?
And your latest Queen (and not only her) duke, not duchess, of Normandy?
Very possibly, though I don?t remember there being as much fuss about it. Thatcher was always seen by the Tories as the best man for the job.
I?m pretty sure we gave up any claim on Normandy some time ago.
The UK sovereign inherits that title independently of their UK monarchy. So the current King, and late Queen, inherited a number of non-UK titles that were nothing to do with the UK.
Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> posted:
Bevan Price <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the
WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury >>>>>> service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes? >>>>>> happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the ?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time (probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA? It?s not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is >>>> bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I >>> think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as >>> "sir"......
Wasn?t Margaret Thatcher regarded as an honorary man when she paid an
official visit to Saudi Arabia?
And your latest Queen (and not only her) duke, not duchess, of Normandy?
Very possibly, though I don?t remember there being as much fuss about it.
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> posted:
On 04/09/2026 08:10, Ulf Kutzner wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> posted:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 18:15:30 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:Not for women, the laws only applied to men.
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >> >>>>> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:27:41 +0300, Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
This month-long case was heard in my local crown court (overlooking the
WCML, so waiting in the jury lounge wasn?t too boring when I did jury
service there ? perhaps you have, too?). Considering that the ?crimes?
happened around four decades ago, were non-violent, and the
?victims? were
probably enthusiastic participants, I?m astonished that it
eventually came
to court at all, and then consumed a month of crown court time
(probably
costing the tax payer well into six figures). I don?t suppose the
retired
ex-teacher will get a custodial sentence, and she?s hardly likely to >> >>>>>>> repeat
the ?crime? today, so why couldn?t the police just take NFA?? It?s >> >>>>>>> not as
if the courts are idly sitting around waiting for cases to try.
Another case:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is >> >>>>> bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I >> >>>> think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as >> >>>> "sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-)
The schoolboys are young men by the law, aren't they?
The change from "boy" to "man" depends upon the legal age of consent in
the country. In the UK this is 16
Used to be 21 for this kind of activity.
Before:
Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or is a party to
the commission of, or procures, or attempts to procure the commission
by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with an other male person,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labouch%C3%A8re_Amendment#Law
Okay, male person, not man. What was/is the minium prosecution age?
Ah, criminal responsibility starts at 10 (12 in Scotland, 14 here).
On 04/09/2026 00:09, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 18:15:30 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:
Am 03.09.2026 um 17:31 schrieb Bevan Price:Not for women, the laws only applied to men.
On 03/09/2026 09:21, Trolleybus wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2026 02:22:43 GMT, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
Teacher had sex with pupil and asked him to call her ?Miss?, court told >>>>>>
https://www.thetimes.com/article/f2cee43d-7d22-41a4-8f62-
e59216448f59?shareToken=51d75a6d34c2a9fbc30677b810ccbaaf
Quite right, too. No need to forget your manners just because Miss is >>>>> bonking you.
The two lady geography teachers at my school - recruited during WW2, I >>>> think - were regarded as "honorary men", and we had to address them as >>>> "sir"......
... which would make sex with them fall under the homosexuality laws? ;-) >>>
IANAL but it seems 'unnatural' acts could be between a man and a woman.
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