https://www.lumo.co.uk/who-we-are/lumonews/lumo-to-introduce-starlink-wifi-across-east-coast-fleet
?Leading open access rail operator Lumo is set to introduce revolutionary >next-generation Starlink Wi-Fi technology across its 100% electric East
Coast Main Line trains this Autumn, marking a significant step forward in >onboard connectivity for customers travelling between London King?s Cross, >Stevenage, Newcastle, Morpeth, Edinburgh Falkirk and Glasgow.
Starlink provides high-speed, low-latency satellite internet designed to >deliver connectivity anywhere, from remote rural areas to dense urban >environments. It utilises a network of low Earth orbit (LEO) satellites and >reliable antennas.
Working in partnership with train manufacturer, Hitachi, integrated >connectivity provider Icomera and rolling stock lease provider Beacon Rail, >Lumo will fit the advanced satellite-enabled internet system designed to >provide faster, more reliable connectivity throughout customer journeys.?
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 08:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.lumo.co.uk/who-we-are/lumonews/lumo-to-introduce-starlink-w >>ifi-across-east-coast-fleet
?Leading open access rail operator Lumo is set to introduce revolutionary >>next-generation Starlink Wi-Fi technology across its 100% electric East >>Coast Main Line trains this Autumn, marking a significant step forward in >>onboard connectivity for customers travelling between London King?s Cross, >>Stevenage, Newcastle, Morpeth, Edinburgh Falkirk and Glasgow.
Starlink provides high-speed, low-latency satellite internet designed to >>deliver connectivity anywhere, from remote rural areas to dense urban >>environments. It utilises a network of low Earth orbit (LEO) satellites and >>reliable antennas.
Working in partnership with train manufacturer, Hitachi, integrated >>connectivity provider Icomera and rolling stock lease provider Beacon Rail, >>Lumo will fit the advanced satellite-enabled internet system designed to >>provide faster, more reliable connectivity throughout customer journeys.?
Interesting - this could attract business travellers. I wonder if they
will restrict streaming of videos.
In message <2hfv2ltr9vtc5fn8vp947lkbnq9d8e1rjk@4ax.com>, at 09:57:41 on
Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 08:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.lumo.co.uk/who-we-are/lumonews/lumo-to-introduce-starlink-w >>>ifi-across-east-coast-fleet
?Leading open access rail operator Lumo is set to introduce revolutionary >>>next-generation Starlink Wi-Fi technology across its 100% electric East >>>Coast Main Line trains this Autumn, marking a significant step forward in >>>onboard connectivity for customers travelling between London King?s Cross, >>>Stevenage, Newcastle, Morpeth, Edinburgh Falkirk and Glasgow.
Starlink provides high-speed, low-latency satellite internet designed to >>>deliver connectivity anywhere, from remote rural areas to dense urban >>>environments. It utilises a network of low Earth orbit (LEO) satellites and >>>reliable antennas.
Working in partnership with train manufacturer, Hitachi, integrated >>>connectivity provider Icomera and rolling stock lease provider Beacon Rail, >>>Lumo will fit the advanced satellite-enabled internet system designed to >>>provide faster, more reliable connectivity throughout customer journeys.?
Interesting - this could attract business travellers. I wonder if they
will restrict streaming of videos.
Starlink (I have one) is typically 200 megabits. Four hundred people on
a train, that's half a megabit each. So, no, I don't think streaming
video is very likely.
And, of course, Starlink doesn't work in tunnels, so is essentially
useless south of Stevenage. And off course inside stations like York.
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 11:53:27 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
wrote:
In message <2hfv2ltr9vtc5fn8vp947lkbnq9d8e1rjk@4ax.com>, at 09:57:41 on >>Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 08:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.lumo.co.uk/who-we-are/lumonews/lumo-to-introduce-starlink-w >>>>ifi-across-east-coast-fleetInteresting - this could attract business travellers. I wonder if they >>>will restrict streaming of videos.
?Leading open access rail operator Lumo is set to introduce revolutionary >>>>next-generation Starlink Wi-Fi technology across its 100% electric East >>>>Coast Main Line trains this Autumn, marking a significant step forward in >>>>onboard connectivity for customers travelling between London King?s Cross, >>>>Stevenage, Newcastle, Morpeth, Edinburgh Falkirk and Glasgow.
Starlink provides high-speed, low-latency satellite internet designed to >>>>deliver connectivity anywhere, from remote rural areas to dense urban >>>>environments. It utilises a network of low Earth orbit (LEO) satellites and >>>>reliable antennas.
Working in partnership with train manufacturer, Hitachi, integrated >>>>connectivity provider Icomera and rolling stock lease provider Beacon Rail, >>>>Lumo will fit the advanced satellite-enabled internet system designed to >>>>provide faster, more reliable connectivity throughout customer journeys.? >>>
Starlink (I have one) is typically 200 megabits. Four hundred people on
a train, that's half a megabit each. So, no, I don't think streaming
video is very likely.
And, of course, Starlink doesn't work in tunnels, so is essentially
useless south of Stevenage. And off course inside stations like York.
Or indeed Birmingham New Street. I guess with all the obstructions it
won't be perfect. I wonder how good it will be in reality - obviously
not as good as on an aircraft or a ship?
In message <e7nv2lp8brsr0ivi33i1m90rbn6kfkthue@4ax.com>, at 12:13:08 on
Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 11:53:27 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
wrote:
In message <2hfv2ltr9vtc5fn8vp947lkbnq9d8e1rjk@4ax.com>, at 09:57:41 on
Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 08:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.lumo.co.uk/who-we-are/lumonews/lumo-to-introduce-starlink-w >>>>> ifi-across-east-coast-fleetInteresting - this could attract business travellers. I wonder if they >>>> will restrict streaming of videos.
?Leading open access rail operator Lumo is set to introduce revolutionary >>>>> next-generation Starlink Wi-Fi technology across its 100% electric East >>>>> Coast Main Line trains this Autumn, marking a significant step forward in >>>>> onboard connectivity for customers travelling between London King?s Cross,
Stevenage, Newcastle, Morpeth, Edinburgh Falkirk and Glasgow.
Starlink provides high-speed, low-latency satellite internet designed to >>>>> deliver connectivity anywhere, from remote rural areas to dense urban >>>>> environments. It utilises a network of low Earth orbit (LEO) satellites and
reliable antennas.
Working in partnership with train manufacturer, Hitachi, integrated
connectivity provider Icomera and rolling stock lease provider Beacon Rail,
Lumo will fit the advanced satellite-enabled internet system designed to >>>>> provide faster, more reliable connectivity throughout customer journeys.? >>>>
Starlink (I have one) is typically 200 megabits. Four hundred people on
a train, that's half a megabit each. So, no, I don't think streaming
video is very likely.
And, of course, Starlink doesn't work in tunnels, so is essentially
useless south of Stevenage. And off course inside stations like York.
Or indeed Birmingham New Street. I guess with all the obstructions it
won't be perfect. I wonder how good it will be in reality - obviously
not as good as on an aircraft or a ship?
The challenge is tracking the satellites while the aerial twists and
turns as the train travels along its route (always being able to see the
sky of course). In central Birmingham the canyoning of all the
skyscrapers might be an issue too.
Last month I took mine on a narrowboat for a week, and they are much
more sedate (and the canal I was on was fairly straight, unlike others
such as the Oxford, and mainly rural).
It worked all week, without me having to constantly re-align it to roughly-north.
They've recently "improved" the service and increased the charge to œ100/month, so I think I'll mothball it until I really need it next.
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
In message <e7nv2lp8brsr0ivi33i1m90rbn6kfkthue@4ax.com>, at 12:13:08 on
Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 11:53:27 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
wrote:
In message <2hfv2ltr9vtc5fn8vp947lkbnq9d8e1rjk@4ax.com>, at 09:57:41 on >>>> Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 08:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.lumo.co.uk/who-we-are/lumonews/lumo-to-introduce-starlink-w >>>>>> ifi-across-east-coast-fleet
?Leading open access rail operator Lumo is set to introduce >>>>>>revolutionary
next-generation Starlink Wi-Fi technology across its 100% electric East >>>>>> Coast Main Line trains this Autumn, marking a significant step forward in
onboard connectivity for customers travelling between London >>>>>>King?s Cross,
Stevenage, Newcastle, Morpeth, Edinburgh Falkirk and Glasgow.
Starlink provides high-speed, low-latency satellite internet designed to >>>>>> deliver connectivity anywhere, from remote rural areas to dense urban >>>>>> environments. It utilises a network of low Earth orbit (LEO) >>>>>>satellites and
reliable antennas.
Working in partnership with train manufacturer, Hitachi, integrated >>>>>> connectivity provider Icomera and rolling stock lease provider >>>>>>Beacon Rail,
Lumo will fit the advanced satellite-enabled internet system designed to >>>>>> provide faster, more reliable connectivity throughout customer >>>>>>journeys.?
Interesting - this could attract business travellers. I wonder if they >>>>> will restrict streaming of videos.
Starlink (I have one) is typically 200 megabits. Four hundred people on >>>> a train, that's half a megabit each. So, no, I don't think streaming
video is very likely.
And, of course, Starlink doesn't work in tunnels, so is essentially
useless south of Stevenage. And off course inside stations like York.
Or indeed Birmingham New Street. I guess with all the obstructions it
won't be perfect. I wonder how good it will be in reality - obviously
not as good as on an aircraft or a ship?
The challenge is tracking the satellites while the aerial twists and
turns as the train travels along its route (always being able to see the
sky of course). In central Birmingham the canyoning of all the
skyscrapers might be an issue too.
Last month I took mine on a narrowboat for a week, and they are much
more sedate (and the canal I was on was fairly straight, unlike others
such as the Oxford, and mainly rural).
It worked all week, without me having to constantly re-align it to
roughly-north.
They've recently "improved" the service and increased the charge to
œ100/month, so I think I'll mothball it until I really need it next.
Icomera who provide the service on the train have a fairly sophisticated >traffic shaping system within the train?s router. Video will get the lowest >priority. They also use cellular modems, so I doubt that Starlink will be
the only source of connectivity.
In message <110orvj$brv5$1@dont-email.me>, at 12:42:27 on Mon, 15 Jun
2026, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
In message <e7nv2lp8brsr0ivi33i1m90rbn6kfkthue@4ax.com>, at 12:13:08 on
Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 11:53:27 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
wrote:
In message <2hfv2ltr9vtc5fn8vp947lkbnq9d8e1rjk@4ax.com>, at 09:57:41 on >>>>> Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:Or indeed Birmingham New Street. I guess with all the obstructions it
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 08:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.lumo.co.uk/who-we-are/lumonews/lumo-to-introduce-starlink-w >>>>>>> ifi-across-east-coast-fleet
?Leading open access rail operator Lumo is set to introduce
revolutionary
next-generation Starlink Wi-Fi technology across its 100% electric East >>>>>>> Coast Main Line trains this Autumn, marking a significant step forward in
onboard connectivity for customers travelling between London
King?s Cross,
Stevenage, Newcastle, Morpeth, Edinburgh Falkirk and Glasgow.
Starlink provides high-speed, low-latency satellite internet designed to
deliver connectivity anywhere, from remote rural areas to dense urban >>>>>>> environments. It utilises a network of low Earth orbit (LEO)
satellites and
reliable antennas.
Working in partnership with train manufacturer, Hitachi, integrated >>>>>>> connectivity provider Icomera and rolling stock lease provider
Beacon Rail,
Lumo will fit the advanced satellite-enabled internet system designed to
provide faster, more reliable connectivity throughout customer
journeys.?
Interesting - this could attract business travellers. I wonder if they >>>>>> will restrict streaming of videos.
Starlink (I have one) is typically 200 megabits. Four hundred people on >>>>> a train, that's half a megabit each. So, no, I don't think streaming >>>>> video is very likely.
And, of course, Starlink doesn't work in tunnels, so is essentially
useless south of Stevenage. And off course inside stations like York. >>>>
won't be perfect. I wonder how good it will be in reality - obviously
not as good as on an aircraft or a ship?
The challenge is tracking the satellites while the aerial twists and
turns as the train travels along its route (always being able to see the >>> sky of course). In central Birmingham the canyoning of all the
skyscrapers might be an issue too.
Last month I took mine on a narrowboat for a week, and they are much
more sedate (and the canal I was on was fairly straight, unlike others
such as the Oxford, and mainly rural).
It worked all week, without me having to constantly re-align it to
roughly-north.
They've recently "improved" the service and increased the charge to
œ100/month, so I think I'll mothball it until I really need it next.
Icomera who provide the service on the train have a fairly sophisticated
traffic shaping system within the train?s router. Video will get the lowest >> priority. They also use cellular modems, so I doubt that Starlink will be
the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all
tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
In message <110orvj$brv5$1@dont-email.me>, at 12:42:27 on Mon, 15 Jun
2026, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
In message <e7nv2lp8brsr0ivi33i1m90rbn6kfkthue@4ax.com>, at 12:13:08 on >>>> Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 11:53:27 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
wrote:
In message <2hfv2ltr9vtc5fn8vp947lkbnq9d8e1rjk@4ax.com>, at 09:57:41 on >>>>>> Mon, 15 Jun 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked: >>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 08:29:12 -0000 (UTC), TweedOr indeed Birmingham New Street. I guess with all the obstructions it >>>>> won't be perfect. I wonder how good it will be in reality - obviously >>>>> not as good as on an aircraft or a ship?
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.lumo.co.uk/who-we-are/lumonews/lumo-to-introduce-starlink-w
ifi-across-east-coast-fleet
?Leading open access rail operator Lumo is set to introduce >>>>>>>>revolutionary next-generation Starlink Wi-Fi technology across >>>>>>>>its 100% electric East Coast Main Line trains this Autumn, >>>>>>>>marking a significant step forward in onboard connectivity for >>>>>>>>customers travelling between London King?s Cross, Stevenage, >>>>>>>>Newcastle, Morpeth, Edinburgh Falkirk and Glasgow.
Starlink provides high-speed, low-latency satellite internet >>>>>>>>designed to deliver connectivity anywhere, from remote rural >>>>>>>>areas to dense urban environments. It utilises a network of low >>>>>>>> satellites and
reliable antennas.
Working in partnership with train manufacturer, Hitachi, integrated >>>>>>>> connectivity provider Icomera and rolling stock lease provider >>>>>>>> Beacon Rail,
Lumo will fit the advanced satellite-enabled internet system >>>>>>>>designed to
provide faster, more reliable connectivity throughout customer >>>>>>>> journeys.?
Interesting - this could attract business travellers. I wonder if they >>>>>>> will restrict streaming of videos.
Starlink (I have one) is typically 200 megabits. Four hundred people on >>>>>> a train, that's half a megabit each. So, no, I don't think streaming >>>>>> video is very likely.
And, of course, Starlink doesn't work in tunnels, so is essentially >>>>>> useless south of Stevenage. And off course inside stations like York. >>>>>
The challenge is tracking the satellites while the aerial twists and
turns as the train travels along its route (always being able to see the >>>> sky of course). In central Birmingham the canyoning of all the
skyscrapers might be an issue too.
Last month I took mine on a narrowboat for a week, and they are much
more sedate (and the canal I was on was fairly straight, unlike others >>>> such as the Oxford, and mainly rural).
It worked all week, without me having to constantly re-align it to
roughly-north.
They've recently "improved" the service and increased the charge to
œ100/month, so I think I'll mothball it until I really need it next.
Icomera who provide the service on the train have a fairly >>>sophisticated traffic shaping system within the train?s router.
Video will get the lowest priority. They also use cellular modems,
so I doubt that Starlink will be the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all
tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the
railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Let?s be glass half full. There?s an awful lot of the ECML on
Lumo?s route up to and in Scotland that?s in open country. Starlink
will be a step up in terms of connectivity, and might encourage LNER to
do better.
And, of course, Starlink doesn't work in tunnels, so is essentially >>>>>>> useless south of Stevenage. And off course inside stations like York. >>>>>>Or indeed Birmingham New Street. I guess with all the obstructions it >>>>>> won't be perfect. I wonder how good it will be in reality - obviously >>>>>> not as good as on an aircraft or a ship?
The challenge is tracking the satellites while the aerial twists and >>>>> turns as the train travels along its route (always being able to see the >>>>> sky of course). In central Birmingham the canyoning of all the
skyscrapers might be an issue too.
Last month I took mine on a narrowboat for a week, and they are much >>>>> more sedate (and the canal I was on was fairly straight, unlike others >>>>> such as the Oxford, and mainly rural).
It worked all week, without me having to constantly re-align it to
roughly-north.
They've recently "improved" the service and increased the charge to
œ100/month, so I think I'll mothball it until I really need it next.
Icomera who provide the service on the train have a fairly >>>>sophisticated traffic shaping system within the train?s router.
Video will get the lowest priority. They also use cellular modems,
so I doubt that Starlink will be the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all
tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the >>> railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Let?s be glass half full. There?s an awful lot of the ECML on
Lumo?s route up to and in Scotland that?s in open country.
Starlink will be a step up in terms of connectivity, and might
encourage LNER to do better.
I agree, but unless they have one Starlink per carriage, I don't think >there's much hope for streaming video at your seat.
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:ubt that Starlink will be
the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all
tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the
railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Let?s be glass half full. There?s an awful lot of the ECML on Lumo?s route
up to and in Scotland that?s in open country. Starlink will be a step up in >terms of connectivity, and might encourage LNER to do better.
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 17:52:42 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:ubt that Starlink will be
the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all
tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the >>> railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Let?s be glass half full. There?s an awful lot of the ECML on Lumo?s route >> up to and in Scotland that?s in open country. Starlink will be a step up in >> terms of connectivity, and might encourage LNER to do better.
There's been a recent Government announcement about improving train
wifi so maybe Lumo's move is in response to that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2d22929ww0o
Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 17:52:42 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:ubt that Starlink will be
the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all
tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the >>>> railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Let?s be glass half full. There?s an awful lot of the ECML on
Lumo?s route
up to and in Scotland that?s in open country. Starlink will be a step up in >>> terms of connectivity, and might encourage LNER to do better.
There's been a recent Government announcement about improving train
wifi so maybe Lumo's move is in response to that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2d22929ww0o
Presumably trying to move before the more lumbering GBR operators follow >suit, to gain a competitive advantage. That?s exactly what you?d expect a >small upstart private competitor to do.
But I see the service will only be on its Hitachi class 803 trains, not the >Meridians. Perhaps it doesn?t expect to be running the latter long enough
to get a return on the investment? And what about its sister Hull Trains?
Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 17:52:42 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:ubt that Starlink will be
the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all
tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the >>>> railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Let?s be glass half full. There?s an awful lot of the ECML on Lumo?s route >>> up to and in Scotland that?s in open country. Starlink will be a step up in >>> terms of connectivity, and might encourage LNER to do better.
There's been a recent Government announcement about improving train
wifi so maybe Lumo's move is in response to that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2d22929ww0o
Presumably trying to move before the more lumbering GBR operators follow suit, to gain a competitive advantage. That?s exactly what you?d expect a small upstart private competitor to do.
But I see the service will only be on its Hitachi class 803 trains, not the Meridians. Perhaps it doesn?t expect to be running the latter long enough
to get a return on the investment? And what about its sister Hull Trains?
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> wrote:I imagine that their 803s are sufficiently new to have new Icomera routers >fitted. I suspect that the Starlink upgrade involves ?just? plugging in the >Ethernet. Wasn?t there an announcement a while back about a firm getting a >train mount Starlink antenna approved?
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 17:52:42 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:ubt that Starlink will be
the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all >>>>> tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the >>>>> railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Let?s be glass half full. There?s an awful lot of the ECML on Lumo?s route >>>> up to and in Scotland that?s in open country. Starlink will be a step up in
terms of connectivity, and might encourage LNER to do better.
There's been a recent Government announcement about improving train
wifi so maybe Lumo's move is in response to that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2d22929ww0o
Presumably trying to move before the more lumbering GBR operators follow
suit, to gain a competitive advantage. That?s exactly what you?d expect a
small upstart private competitor to do.
But I see the service will only be on its Hitachi class 803 trains, not the >> Meridians. Perhaps it doesn?t expect to be running the latter long enough
to get a return on the investment? And what about its sister Hull Trains?
The Meridian on train routers are probably life expired.
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:05:54 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> wrote:I imagine that their 803s are sufficiently new to have new Icomera routers >> fitted. I suspect that the Starlink upgrade involves ?just? plugging in the >> Ethernet. Wasn?t there an announcement a while back about a firm getting a >> train mount Starlink antenna approved?
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 17:52:42 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:ubt that Starlink will be
the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all >>>>>> tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the
railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Let?s be glass half full. There?s an awful lot of the ECML on Lumo?s route
up to and in Scotland that?s in open country. Starlink will be a step up in
terms of connectivity, and might encourage LNER to do better.
There's been a recent Government announcement about improving train
wifi so maybe Lumo's move is in response to that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2d22929ww0o
Presumably trying to move before the more lumbering GBR operators follow >>> suit, to gain a competitive advantage. That?s exactly what you?d expect a >>> small upstart private competitor to do.
But I see the service will only be on its Hitachi class 803 trains, not the >>> Meridians. Perhaps it doesn?t expect to be running the latter long enough >>> to get a return on the investment? And what about its sister Hull Trains? >>>
The Meridian on train routers are probably life expired.
That's moderately bad news for ScotRail customers, unless the
refurbishment includes an upgrade.
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:05:54 -0000 (UTC), TweedI imagine Scotrail will go for an upgrade. The 222s for Lumo are very much
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> wrote:I imagine that their 803s are sufficiently new to have new Icomera routers >>> fitted. I suspect that the Starlink upgrade involves ?just? plugging in the >>> Ethernet. Wasn?t there an announcement a while back about a firm getting a >>> train mount Starlink antenna approved?
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 17:52:42 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:ubt that Starlink will be
the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all >>>>>>> tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the
railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Let?s be glass half full. There?s an awful lot of the ECML on Lumo?s route
up to and in Scotland that?s in open country. Starlink will be a step up in
terms of connectivity, and might encourage LNER to do better.
There's been a recent Government announcement about improving train
wifi so maybe Lumo's move is in response to that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2d22929ww0o
Presumably trying to move before the more lumbering GBR operators follow >>>> suit, to gain a competitive advantage. That?s exactly what you?d expect a >>>> small upstart private competitor to do.
But I see the service will only be on its Hitachi class 803 trains, not the
Meridians. Perhaps it doesn?t expect to be running the latter long enough >>>> to get a return on the investment? And what about its sister Hull Trains? >>>>
The Meridian on train routers are probably life expired.
That's moderately bad news for ScotRail customers, unless the
refurbishment includes an upgrade.
a stop gap so I think they will be looking to spend as little as possible.
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:57:26 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:05:54 -0000 (UTC), TweedI imagine Scotrail will go for an upgrade. The 222s for Lumo are very much >> a stop gap so I think they will be looking to spend as little as possible.
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> wrote:I imagine that their 803s are sufficiently new to have new Icomera routers >>>> fitted. I suspect that the Starlink upgrade involves ?just? plugging in the
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 17:52:42 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:ubt that Starlink will be
the only source of connectivity.
Sure, there's always many ways to provide connectivity, but they all >>>>>>>> tend to fail simultaneously in tunnels, and GSM coverage on a lot of the
railway network is more of a hope than a promise.
Let?s be glass half full. There?s an awful lot of the ECML on Lumo?s route
up to and in Scotland that?s in open country. Starlink will be a step up in
terms of connectivity, and might encourage LNER to do better.
There's been a recent Government announcement about improving train >>>>>> wifi so maybe Lumo's move is in response to that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2d22929ww0o
Presumably trying to move before the more lumbering GBR operators follow >>>>> suit, to gain a competitive advantage. That?s exactly what you?d expect a >>>>> small upstart private competitor to do.
But I see the service will only be on its Hitachi class 803 trains, not the
Meridians. Perhaps it doesn?t expect to be running the latter long enough >>>>> to get a return on the investment? And what about its sister Hull Trains? >>>>>
Ethernet. Wasn?t there an announcement a while back about a firm getting a >>>> train mount Starlink antenna approved?
The Meridian on train routers are probably life expired.
That's moderately bad news for ScotRail customers, unless the
refurbishment includes an upgrade.
As long as they don't give the job to Ferguson Marine :-)
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:57:26 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:As long as they don't give the job to Ferguson Marine :-)
That's moderately bad news for ScotRail customers, unless theI imagine Scotrail will go for an upgrade. The 222s for Lumo are very much >>> a stop gap so I think they will be looking to spend as little as possible. >>
refurbishment includes an upgrade.
I?m sure there must be some other company run by an SNP donor that can
claim to be capable of doing the task?
On 16/06/2026 21:05, Recliner wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:57:26 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:As long as they don't give the job to Ferguson Marine :-)
That's moderately bad news for ScotRail customers, unless theI imagine Scotrail will go for an upgrade. The 222s for Lumo are very much >>>> a stop gap so I think they will be looking to spend as little as possible. >>>
refurbishment includes an upgrade.
I?m sure there must be some other company run by an SNP donor that can
claim to be capable of doing the task?
Perhaps they could convert a spare motorhome.
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