• Finally! EWR trains from December

    From Recliner@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 10, 2026 14:00:30
    The Oxford Mail reports

    A date has been set for the long awaited œ1.3bn East West Rail line from Oxford.

    The Government says trains from Oxford to Milton Keynes are being lined up
    to appear in the December rail timetable.

    In a written statement, rail minister Lord Peter Hendy said: "Chiltern
    worked with Network Rail, the Department for Transport and other operators
    on the December 2026 timetable and services have been timetabled between Oxford, Winslow, Bletchley and Milton Keynes.


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  • From Ulf Kutzner@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 10, 2026 14:11:15

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> posted:

    The Oxford Mail reports

    A date has been set for the long awaited œ1.3bn East West Rail line from Oxford.

    The Government says trains from Oxford to Milton Keynes are being lined up
    to appear in the December rail timetable.

    In a written statement, rail minister Lord Peter Hendy said: "Chiltern
    worked with Network Rail, the Department for Transport and other operators
    on the December 2026 timetable and services have been timetabled between Oxford, Winslow, Bletchley and Milton Keynes.

    Does that mean this year or not later than May 2027?

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  • From Roland Perry@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 09:46:39
    In message <1781100675-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 14:11:15 on Wed, 10 Jun
    2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> posted:

    The Oxford Mail reports

    A date has been set for the long awaited ?1.3bn East West Rail line from
    Oxford.

    The Government says trains from Oxford to Milton Keynes are being lined up >> to appear in the December rail timetable.

    In a written statement, rail minister Lord Peter Hendy said: "Chiltern
    worked with Network Rail, the Department for Transport and other operators >> on the December 2026 timetable and services have been timetabled between
    Oxford, Winslow, Bletchley and Milton Keynes.

    Does that mean this year or not later than May 2027?

    This story is deliberately misleading. What it actually means is that
    the December timetable will include paths that allow for trains to be
    run, if and only if, there's an agreement with the unions about manning.

    Which seems as unlikely as ever.

    It's a bit like Cambridge South, where the working timetable (note
    absence of the word "public" in front of "timetable" in the EWR
    announcement), has included platform numbers and timing since the last
    change, but it doesn't actually open for passengers until the end of
    this month.
    --
    Roland Perry

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  • From Ulf Kutzner@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 09:05:06

    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:

    In message <1781100675-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 14:11:15 on Wed, 10 Jun 2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> posted:

    The Oxford Mail reports

    A date has been set for the long awaited œ1.3bn East West Rail line from >> Oxford.

    The Government says trains from Oxford to Milton Keynes are being lined up >> to appear in the December rail timetable.

    In a written statement, rail minister Lord Peter Hendy said: "Chiltern
    worked with Network Rail, the Department for Transport and other operators >> on the December 2026 timetable and services have been timetabled between >> Oxford, Winslow, Bletchley and Milton Keynes.

    Does that mean this year or not later than May 2027?

    This story is deliberately misleading. What it actually means is that
    the December timetable will include paths that allow for trains to be
    run, if and only if, there's an agreement with the unions about manning.

    Which seems as unlikely as ever.

    It's a bit like Cambridge South, where the working timetable (note
    absence of the word "public" in front of "timetable" in the EWR announcement), has included platform numbers and timing since the last change, but

    members of the public can see platform numbers and timings.

    https://www.opentraintimes.com/location/CAMBSTH

    Well, it says PASS for many services, including non-empty
    passenger ones, so there should be a new timetable before
    the end of the month?

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  • From Roland Perry@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 10:56:22
    In message <1781168706-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 09:05:06 on Thu, 11 Jun
    2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
    It's a bit like Cambridge South, where the working timetable (note
    absence of the word "public" in front of "timetable" in the EWR
    announcement), has included platform numbers and timing since the last
    change, but

    members of the public can see platform numbers and timings.

    That's not what "Public Timetable" means.

    https://www.opentraintimes.com/location/CAMBSTH

    Well, it says PASS for many services, including non-empty
    passenger ones, so there should be a new timetable before
    the end of the month?

    There will be a timetable printed on a large sheet of paper, and affixed
    to the wall of the station, once it has opened.
    --
    Roland Perry

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  • From Ulf Kutzner@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 10:05:25

    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:

    In message <1781168706-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 09:05:06 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
    It's a bit like Cambridge South, where the working timetable (note
    absence of the word "public" in front of "timetable" in the EWR
    announcement), has included platform numbers and timing since the last
    change, but

    members of the public can see platform numbers and timings.

    That's not what "Public Timetable" means.

    https://www.opentraintimes.com/location/CAMBSTH

    Well, it says PASS for many services, including non-empty
    passenger ones, so there should be a new timetable before
    the end of the month?

    There will be a timetable printed on a large sheet of paper, and affixed
    to the wall of the station, once it has opened.

    Which needs a timetable change unless
    the all-trains-will-call-there-policy
    is given up.

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  • From Roland Perry@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 13:05:25
    In message <1781172325-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 10:05:25 on Thu, 11 Jun
    2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:

    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:

    In message <1781168706-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 09:05:06 on Thu, 11 Jun
    2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
    It's a bit like Cambridge South, where the working timetable (note
    absence of the word "public" in front of "timetable" in the EWR
    announcement), has included platform numbers and timing since the last
    change, but

    members of the public can see platform numbers and timings.

    That's not what "Public Timetable" means.

    https://www.opentraintimes.com/location/CAMBSTH

    Well, it says PASS for many services, including non-empty
    passenger ones, so there should be a new timetable before
    the end of the month?

    There will be a timetable printed on a large sheet of paper, and affixed
    to the wall of the station, once it has opened.

    Which needs a timetable change unless
    the all-trains-will-call-there-policy
    is given up.

    No it won't. The trains you see as "PASS" will be temporary amendments
    to the underlying timetable which has them all stopping.
    --
    Roland Perry

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  • From JNugent@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 13:33:37
    On 10/06/2026 03:00 PM, Recliner wrote:
    The Oxford Mail reports

    A date has been set for the long awaited œ1.3bn East West Rail line from Oxford.

    The Government says trains from Oxford to Milton Keynes are being lined up
    to appear in the December rail timetable.

    In a written statement, rail minister Lord Peter Hendy said: "Chiltern
    worked with Network Rail, the Department for Transport and other operators
    on the December 2026 timetable and services have been timetabled between Oxford, Winslow, Bletchley and Milton Keynes.

    Hmmm...

    The thread title led me to believe that the article was about trains to
    and from Newark Liberty Airport.

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  • From Recliner@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, June 11, 2026 16:14:08
    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 10/06/2026 03:00 PM, Recliner wrote:
    The Oxford Mail reports

    A date has been set for the long awaited œ1.3bn East West Rail line from
    Oxford.

    The Government says trains from Oxford to Milton Keynes are being lined up >> to appear in the December rail timetable.

    In a written statement, rail minister Lord Peter Hendy said: "Chiltern
    worked with Network Rail, the Department for Transport and other operators >> on the December 2026 timetable and services have been timetabled between
    Oxford, Winslow, Bletchley and Milton Keynes.

    Hmmm...

    The thread title led me to believe that the article was about trains to
    and from Newark Liberty Airport.


    That?s what you?d expect in an international air travel forum, but this is
    a UK railway group.


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  • From Trolleybus@3:633/10 to All on Friday, June 12, 2026 08:05:44
    On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 10:05:25 GMT, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:

    In message <1781168706-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 09:05:06 on Thu, 11 Jun
    2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
    It's a bit like Cambridge South, where the working timetable (note
    absence of the word "public" in front of "timetable" in the EWR
    announcement), has included platform numbers and timing since the last
    change, but

    members of the public can see platform numbers and timings.

    That's not what "Public Timetable" means.

    https://www.opentraintimes.com/location/CAMBSTH

    Well, it says PASS for many services, including non-empty
    passenger ones, so there should be a new timetable before
    the end of the month?

    There will be a timetable printed on a large sheet of paper, and affixed
    to the wall of the station, once it has opened.

    Which needs a timetable change unless
    the all-trains-will-call-there-policy
    is given up.

    All passenger services at Cambridge South on RTT are shown as VAR,
    which means a variation to the working timetable. I'd guess that the
    variation is the Cambriodge South station stop. When the station opens
    trains will run the WTT which has them calling at CMS without the need
    for a formal timetable change.

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  • From Ulf Kutzner@3:633/10 to All on Friday, June 12, 2026 07:47:13

    Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> posted:

    On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 10:05:25 GMT, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> posted:

    In message <1781168706-2991@newsgrouper.org>, at 09:05:06 on Thu, 11 Jun >> 2026, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> remarked:
    It's a bit like Cambridge South, where the working timetable (note
    absence of the word "public" in front of "timetable" in the EWR
    announcement), has included platform numbers and timing since the last >> >> change, but

    members of the public can see platform numbers and timings.

    That's not what "Public Timetable" means.

    https://www.opentraintimes.com/location/CAMBSTH

    Well, it says PASS for many services, including non-empty
    passenger ones, so there should be a new timetable before
    the end of the month?

    There will be a timetable printed on a large sheet of paper, and affixed >> to the wall of the station, once it has opened.

    Which needs a timetable change unless
    the all-trains-will-call-there-policy
    is given up.

    All passenger services at Cambridge South on RTT are shown as VAR,
    which means a variation to the working timetable.

    I see.

    Thank you, ULF

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  • From Ulf Kutzner@3:633/10 to All on Friday, June 12, 2026 08:55:33

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> posted:

    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 10/06/2026 03:00 PM, Recliner wrote:
    The Oxford Mail reports

    A date has been set for the long awaited œ1.3bn East West Rail line from >> Oxford.

    The Government says trains from Oxford to Milton Keynes are being lined up >> to appear in the December rail timetable.

    In a written statement, rail minister Lord Peter Hendy said: "Chiltern
    worked with Network Rail, the Department for Transport and other operators >> on the December 2026 timetable and services have been timetabled between >> Oxford, Winslow, Bletchley and Milton Keynes.

    Hmmm...

    The thread title led me to believe that the article was about trains to and from Newark Liberty Airport.


    That?s what you?d expect in an international air travel forum, but this is
    a UK railway group.

    misc.transport.rail.americas is, to my surprise, more or less active.

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  • From Mike Humphrey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 18:47:25
    On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:14:08 GMT, Recliner wrote:
    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    The thread title led me to believe that the article was about trains to
    and from Newark Liberty Airport.

    That?s what you?d expect in an international air travel forum, but this
    is a UK railway group.

    Indeed. EWR is East Worthing, which already has a regular train service.

    Mike

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