I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via the
Settle and Carlisle line. But, to my surprise, not many booking engines still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent. Without that
it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh, which I guess
is faster but not what I want. And I don't want to book advanced
tickets separately or may get caught out if services fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via option
- where have they gone?
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via the
Settle and Carlisle line. But, to my surprise, not many booking
engines still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent.
Without that it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh,
which I guess is faster but not what I want. And I don't want to book >advanced tickets separately or may get caught out if services fail to >connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via option
- where have they gone?
Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> wrote:
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via the
Settle and Carlisle line. But, to my surprise, not many booking engines
still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent. Without that
it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh, which I guess
is faster but not what I want. And I don't want to book advanced
tickets separately or may get caught out if services fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via option
- where have they gone?
The EMR website will do it. You have to enter a simple query on their front page first. Then when you get the results page there?s the option to add a via or avoid station. If you scroll down to the bottom of the results
there?s a link to display more ticket types. The primary set of results
likes to emphasise Advances.
Trainsplit has a more sophisticated set of options. You can set it to
provide only flexible fares if you want to avoid Advance tickets.
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via theIf you want to oblige a booking site to route you over the S&C, I
Settle and Carlisle line.ÿ But, to my surprise, not many booking engines still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent.ÿ Without that
it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh, which I guess
is faster but not what I want.ÿÿ And I don't want to book advanced
tickets separately or may get caught out if services fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via option
- where have they gone?
On 27/04/2026 18:21, Clive Page wrote:
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via theIf you want to oblige a booking site to route you over the S&C, I
Settle and Carlisle line.ÿ But, to my surprise, not many booking
engines still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent.
Without that it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh,
which I guess is faster but not what I want.ÿÿ And I don't want to
book advanced tickets separately or may get caught out if services
fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via
option - where have they gone?
believe one of the cunning ways of doing the "via" is to set via Appleby (not Dent).
(No other inside information as to why this might be, only reading this periodically over the years on various S&C information, and since Settle station is just over my back wall, I've never really had to test this
theory in anger, so to speak)
On 27/04/2026 18:21, Clive Page wrote:
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via the >>Settle and Carlisle line.? But, to my surprise, not many booking
engines still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent.? >>Without that it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to
Edinburgh, which I guess is faster but not what I want.?? And I don't >>want to book advanced tickets separately or may get caught out if >>services fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via
option - where have they gone?
If you want to oblige a booking site to route you over the S&C, I
believe one of the cunning ways of doing the "via" is to set via
Appleby (not Dent).
(No other inside information as to why this might be, only reading this >periodically over the years on various S&C information, and since
Settle station is just over my back wall, I've never really had to test
this theory in anger, so to speak)
On 28/04/2026 10:37, Allan wrote:
On 27/04/2026 18:21, Clive Page wrote:
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via
the Settle and Carlisle line.? But, to my surprise, not many booking >>>engines still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent. >>>Without that it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to
Edinburgh, which I guess is faster but not what I want.?? And I
don't want to book advanced tickets separately or may get caught out
if services fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via
option - where have they gone?
If you want to oblige a booking site to route you over the S&C, I
believe one of the cunning ways of doing the "via" is to set via
Appleby (not Dent).
(No other inside information as to why this might be, only reading
this periodically over the years on various S&C information, and
since Settle station is just over my back wall, I've never really had
to test this theory in anger, so to speak)
Perhaps the planner speeds up its work by caching journeys between pairs
of commonly used routing points[1], and Appleby is one but Dent isn't.
[1] not necessarily those the Routing Guide uses for ticket validity
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> wrote:
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via the
Settle and Carlisle line. But, to my surprise, not many booking engines >>> still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent. Without that
it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh, which I guess
is faster but not what I want. And I don't want to book advanced
tickets separately or may get caught out if services fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via option
- where have they gone?
The EMR website will do it. You have to enter a simple query on their front >> page first. Then when you get the results page there?s the option to add a >> via or avoid station. If you scroll down to the bottom of the results
there?s a link to display more ticket types. The primary set of results
likes to emphasise Advances.
Trainsplit has a more sophisticated set of options. You can set it to
provide only flexible fares if you want to avoid Advance tickets.
I?ve just looked at the LNER website. They have a via/avoid checkbox on the front screen.
On 27/04/2026 18:59, Tweed wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> wrote:
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via the
Settle and Carlisle line.ÿ But, to my surprise, not many booking
engines
still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent.ÿ Without that >>>> it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh, which I guess >>>> is faster but not what I want.ÿÿ And I don't want to book advanced
tickets separately or may get caught out if services fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via option >>>> - where have they gone?
The EMR website will do it. You have to enter a simple query on their
front
page first. Then when you get the results page there?s the option to
add a
via or avoid station. If you scroll down to the bottom of the results
there?s a link to display more ticket types. The primary set of results
likes to emphasise Advances.
Trainsplit has a more sophisticated set of options. You can set it to
provide only flexible fares if you want to avoid Advance tickets.
I?ve just looked at the LNER website. They have a via/avoid checkbox
on the
front screen.
Well using Firefox I can't see that checkbox.ÿ But I just tried
Microsoft Edge and the via checkbox is there.ÿÿ I suppose a previous
search has set some cookie which has personalised the interface in a unwanted way.
On 27/04/2026 18:59, Tweed wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> wrote:
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via the
Settle and Carlisle line. But, to my surprise, not many booking engines >>>> still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent. Without that >>>> it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh, which I guess >>>> is faster but not what I want. And I don't want to book advanced
tickets separately or may get caught out if services fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via option >>>> - where have they gone?
The EMR website will do it. You have to enter a simple query on their front >>> page first. Then when you get the results page there?s the option to add a >>> via or avoid station. If you scroll down to the bottom of the results
there?s a link to display more ticket types. The primary set of results
likes to emphasise Advances.
Trainsplit has a more sophisticated set of options. You can set it to
provide only flexible fares if you want to avoid Advance tickets.
I?ve just looked at the LNER website. They have a via/avoid checkbox on the >> front screen.
Well using Firefox I can't see that checkbox. But I just tried
Microsoft Edge and the via checkbox is there. I suppose a previous
search has set some cookie which has personalised the interface in a >unwanted way.
On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 11:21:44 +0100, Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu>
wrote:
On 27/04/2026 18:59, Tweed wrote:Have they by any chance selected a colour for the check box which the
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> wrote:
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via the >>>>> Settle and Carlisle line. But, to my surprise, not many booking engines >>>>> still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent. Without that >>>>> it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh, which I guess >>>>> is faster but not what I want. And I don't want to book advanced
tickets separately or may get caught out if services fail to connect. >>>>>
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via option >>>>> - where have they gone?
The EMR website will do it. You have to enter a simple query on their front
page first. Then when you get the results page there?s the option to add a >>>> via or avoid station. If you scroll down to the bottom of the results
there?s a link to display more ticket types. The primary set of results >>>> likes to emphasise Advances.
Trainsplit has a more sophisticated set of options. You can set it to
provide only flexible fares if you want to avoid Advance tickets.
I?ve just looked at the LNER website. They have a via/avoid checkbox on the >>> front screen.
Well using Firefox I can't see that checkbox. But I just tried
Microsoft Edge and the via checkbox is there. I suppose a previous
search has set some cookie which has personalised the interface in a
unwanted way.
"wrong" browser makes practically invisible ? I get that with some of
my organisation's MS forms tick boxes. Possibly toggling the browser
into night mode might show that up.
On 28/04/2026 10:37, Allan wrote:
On 27/04/2026 18:21, Clive Page wrote:
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via theIf you want to oblige a booking site to route you over the S&C, I
Settle and Carlisle line.ÿ But, to my surprise, not many booking
engines still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent.
Without that it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh,
which I guess is faster but not what I want.ÿÿ And I don't want to
book advanced tickets separately or may get caught out if services
fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via
option - where have they gone?
believe one of the cunning ways of doing the "via" is to set via Appleby
(not Dent).
(No other inside information as to why this might be, only reading this
periodically over the years on various S&C information, and since Settle
station is just over my back wall, I've never really had to test this
theory in anger, so to speak)
Perhaps the planner speeds up its work by caching journeys between pairs
of commonly used routing points[1], and Appleby is one but Dent isn't.
[1] not necessarily those the Routing Guide uses for ticket validity
I'm about to try to buy a ticket from King's Cross to Glasgow via the"via" option last week, has it again this week. Possibly a side effect
Settle and Carlisle line.ÿ But, to my surprise, not many booking engines still have a 'via' option to force a route e.g. via Dent.ÿ Without that
it keeps wanting me to go from King's Cross to Edinburgh, which I guess
is faster but not what I want.ÿÿ And I don't want to book advanced
tickets separately or may get caught out if services fail to connect.
I'm sure most of the TOC's booking engines used to present a via option
- where have they gone?
To my surprise the Scotrail.co.uk booking engine which had lost it's
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