• Backup Program

    From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, April 12, 2026 13:53:00

    I use an HP Microserver N54L running Linux Mint xfce to create iso files
    from DVDs and to act as a home media server, the files are backed up to a Windows PC on my home network.

    I have two backup programs, Smart Sync Pro and SyncBackSE which are too
    clever for their own good. I believe the date/time kept on the Linux
    machine is more accurate than that on the Windows machine. Originally I switched from Smart Sync Pro to SyncBackSE because the latter didn't get confused, however, I just went to run a backup and it wants to copy
    absolutely everything.

    Is anybody aware of a backup program that will just consider file path and file size in deciding whether of not a backup is needed? Would XCOPY work?

    I tried to ask in the Linux group but somebody wanted to start an advocacy
    war there.

    If not I am going to have to fire up Visual Studio and see what I can do...

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Thanks for teaching me the meaning of plethora, it means a lot.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.13
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Gordon@3:633/10 to All on Monday, April 13, 2026 05:10:11
    On 2026-04-12, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I use an HP Microserver N54L running Linux Mint xfce to create iso files from DVDs and to act as a home media server, the files are backed up to a Windows PC on my home network.

    I have two backup programs, Smart Sync Pro and SyncBackSE which are too clever for their own good. I believe the date/time kept on the Linux
    machine is more accurate than that on the Windows machine. Originally I switched from Smart Sync Pro to SyncBackSE because the latter didn't get confused, however, I just went to run a backup and it wants to copy absolutely everything.

    Is anybody aware of a backup program that will just consider file path and file size in deciding whether of not a backup is needed? Would XCOPY work?

    I tried to ask in the Linux group but somebody wanted to start an advocacy war there.

    If not I am going to have to fire up Visual Studio and see what I can do...

    https://medium.com/@gurusquad90/rsync-for-windows-a-comprehensive-guide-91d3238a0997

    This might be a solution.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Monday, April 13, 2026 11:28:16
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I use an HP Microserver N54L running Linux Mint xfce to create iso files from DVDs and to act as a home media server, the files are backed up to a Windows PC on my home network.

    I have two backup programs, Smart Sync Pro and SyncBackSE which are too clever for their own good. I believe the date/time kept on the Linux
    machine is more accurate than that on the Windows machine.

    This is VFAT issue. NTFS is better I think.

    Originally I
    switched from Smart Sync Pro to SyncBackSE because the latter didn't get confused, however, I just went to run a backup and it wants to copy absolutely everything.

    Is anybody aware of a backup program that will just consider file path and file size in deciding whether of not a backup is needed? Would XCOPY work?

    Depends on the mechanism, but I'd always reach for rsync as a first (and
    last) port of call.

    I tried to ask in the Linux group but somebody wanted to start an advocacy war there.

    If not I am going to have to fire up Visual Studio and see what I can do...





    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Monday, April 13, 2026 15:33:22
    On 12/04/2026 in message <xn0pofy594kf2py006@news.individual.net> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:

    If not I am going to have to fire up Visual Studio and see what I can do...

    Many thanks for the replies. I did, in fact, fire up VS and was able to
    put together a synch app very quickly.

    Running it highlighted the problem. Nothing to do with my backup programs, there was a link in one of the Linux directories which in Windows is a
    file (*.lnk). However, Windows apps treat a Linux link as a directory so
    were trying to back up files that it had discovered in the "directory". I actually discovered it when I deleted the link from Windows, it followed
    the link and had deleted 7 series of Boston Legal and 5 of Buffy the
    vampire shagger before I realised what was happening.

    Still learning at 78....

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The first five days after the weekend are the hardest.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Monday, April 13, 2026 18:33:27
    On 13/04/2026 in message <n44q0jFt1t9U1@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns
    wrote:

    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    there was a link in one of the Linux directories which in Windows is a >>file (*.lnk). However, Windows apps treat a Linux link as a directory so >>were trying to back up files that it had discovered in the "directory".

    .lnk files aren't hard or soft links (in a linux sense) they're shortcuts >known to windows explorer.

    <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/windows_protocols/ms-shllink/16cb4ca1-9339-4d0c-a68d-bf1d6cc0f943>

    Windows does [now] have both hard and soft links (in the linux sense).

    <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/symbolic-links>

    <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/hard-links-and-junctions>

    if you want the full set, see also .pif files

    <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/3235893/editing-pif-files-in-windows-10>

    My file manager knows about these so it knows what to do if somebody
    activates one!

    Creating symbolic links programmatically nowadays is hard because of permissions.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    This mess is what happens when you elect a Labour government, in the end
    they will always run out of other people's money to spend.
    (Margaret Thatcher on her election in 1979)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)