• Earphones

    From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, May 27, 2026 11:51:22
    Hi,

    I have a pair of earphones Sennheiser brand. HD 450BT. The sound is
    fantastic, but the earpads degrade very fast. I bought replacement
    earpads or cushions last November, and now they are degraded - see photo.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/aXfhUni2DqMnfvZj6

    In two weeks it will be much worse. I am using them daily (with sporadic
    use, they degrade in two years).


    What can I do?

    Maybe buy some other good earphones via BT with more durable ear pads?

    In summer, the TV room has a very noisy small AC, so earphones with
    noise cancel are a wonder.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;


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  • From Phil Hobbs@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, May 27, 2026 13:59:45
    On 2026-05-27 05:51, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    Hi,

    I have a pair of earphones Sennheiser brand. HD 450BT. The sound is fantastic, but the earpads degrade very fast. I bought replacement
    earpads or cushions last November, and now they are degraded - see photo.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/aXfhUni2DqMnfvZj6

    In two weeks it will be much worse. I am using them daily (with sporadic use, they degrade in two years).


    What can I do?

    Maybe buy some other good earphones via BT with more durable ear pads?

    In summer, the TV room has a very noisy small AC, so earphones with
    noise cancel are a wonder.

    You might take them to the shoemaker (I assume you folks still have
    those) and get some made from lambskin.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com


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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, May 27, 2026 20:18:47
    On 2026-05-27 19:59, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    On 2026-05-27 05:51, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    Hi,

    I have a pair of earphones Sennheiser brand. HD 450BT. The sound is
    fantastic, but the earpads degrade very fast. I bought replacement
    earpads or cushions last November, and now they are degraded - see photo.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/aXfhUni2DqMnfvZj6

    In two weeks it will be much worse. I am using them daily (with
    sporadic use, they degrade in two years).


    What can I do?

    Maybe buy some other good earphones via BT with more durable ear pads?

    In summer, the TV room has a very noisy small AC, so earphones with
    noise cancel are a wonder.

    You might take them to the shoemaker (I assume you folks still have
    those) and get some made from lambskin.

    There maybe one or two somewhere...

    Amazon has several earpads by several makers for this model. I tried one
    the previous time. Dunno how durable it be. Certainly cheaper, but worse
    sound insulation.

    They are not easy to attach, either.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From james moffat@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, May 27, 2026 12:33:30
    On Wed, 27 May 2026 11:51:22 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
    <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    What can I do?

    I have the same model. Yes the ear pads degrade. The only thing you
    can do is replace them and trying different brands or styles( fuzzy vs
    smooth, pleather vs plastic vs real leather) until you find ones that
    can survive your usage case.
    ME

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, May 27, 2026 16:04:35
    On Wed, 27 May 2026 11:51:22 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
    <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    Hi,

    I have a pair of earphones Sennheiser brand. HD 450BT. The sound is >fantastic, but the earpads degrade very fast. I bought replacement
    earpads or cushions last November, and now they are degraded - see photo.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/aXfhUni2DqMnfvZj6

    In two weeks it will be much worse. I am using them daily (with sporadic >use, they degrade in two years).


    What can I do?

    Maybe buy some other good earphones via BT with more durable ear pads?

    In summer, the TV room has a very noisy small AC, so earphones with
    noise cancel are a wonder.

    Welcome to early death by design, timed self destruction, short life
    warranty, planned deterioration, etc. Few companies can afford to
    design products that last a lifetime. Instead, they want you to
    replace their failed products with nice new products that also fail.
    Forget about repair as parts are usually hard to find and expertise is
    scarce. I especially like companies that make minor changes to their
    plastic parts solely to discourage buyers from cannibalizing old
    devices to fix new devices (i.e Philips/Norelco shavers).

    Instead, I suggest that you sew your own headphone ear pads.
    Instruction videos are available on YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sew+your+own+headphone+covers>

    Most headsets use open polyurethane memory foam to reduce the pressure
    on the ear.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_foam>
    The foam takes a set and shapes itself to the shape of your ear,
    resulting in much less pressure on the ear by uniformly distributing
    the pressure.

    Having the plastic cover deteriorate in 2 weeks indicates that you're
    either washing your hair in toxic solvents or the plastic cover was
    improperly polymerized. Easy fix - don't use a plastic cover.
    Instead, I suggest 100% cotton. Cotton might need to be washed
    occasionally, but it's not going to fall apart. If you don't want to
    learn sewing, make something from an elastic cotton sock. It's not as comfortable, but it does the job. <https://www.google.com/search?q=cloth%20headset%20ear%20covers&udm=2>



    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558


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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, May 28, 2026 07:55:58
    On 2026-05-28 01:04, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Wed, 27 May 2026 11:51:22 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
    <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    Hi,

    I have a pair of earphones Sennheiser brand. HD 450BT. The sound is
    fantastic, but the earpads degrade very fast. I bought replacement
    earpads or cushions last November, and now they are degraded - see photo.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/aXfhUni2DqMnfvZj6

    In two weeks it will be much worse. I am using them daily (with sporadic
    use, they degrade in two years).


    What can I do?

    Maybe buy some other good earphones via BT with more durable ear pads?

    In summer, the TV room has a very noisy small AC, so earphones with
    noise cancel are a wonder.

    Welcome to early death by design, timed self destruction, short life warranty, planned deterioration, etc. Few companies can afford to
    design products that last a lifetime. Instead, they want you to
    replace their failed products with nice new products that also fail.
    Forget about repair as parts are usually hard to find and expertise is scarce. I especially like companies that make minor changes to their
    plastic parts solely to discourage buyers from cannibalizing old
    devices to fix new devices (i.e Philips/Norelco shavers).

    Not the case, you can buy the pads, there are lots of them. The brand
    ones are expensive.



    Instead, I suggest that you sew your own headphone ear pads.
    Instruction videos are available on YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sew+your+own+headphone+covers>

    Most headsets use open polyurethane memory foam to reduce the pressure
    on the ear.
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_foam>
    The foam takes a set and shapes itself to the shape of your ear,
    resulting in much less pressure on the ear by uniformly distributing
    the pressure.

    Having the plastic cover deteriorate in 2 weeks indicates that you're

    Half a year, with daily use.

    either washing your hair in toxic solvents or the plastic cover was improperly polymerized. Easy fix - don't use a plastic cover.
    Instead, I suggest 100% cotton. Cotton might need to be washed
    occasionally, but it's not going to fall apart. If you don't want to
    learn sewing, make something from an elastic cotton sock. It's not as comfortable, but it does the job. <https://www.google.com/search?q=cloth%20headset%20ear%20covers&udm=2>





    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Jeff Layman@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, May 28, 2026 07:56:52
    On 27/05/2026 10:51, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    Hi,

    I have a pair of earphones Sennheiser brand. HD 450BT. The sound is fantastic, but the earpads degrade very fast. I bought replacement
    earpads or cushions last November, and now they are degraded - see photo.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/aXfhUni2DqMnfvZj6

    In two weeks it will be much worse. I am using them daily (with sporadic
    use, they degrade in two years).


    What can I do?

    No idea. I have some Koss Pro4AA headphones I bought in 1972. I don't
    use them much now, but used to. They still have the original earpads
    which are fine (they were gel-filled for close fitting). The problem was
    the weight and that they were very hot after only a few minutes of wear. They'd be very uncomfortable to wear in hot weather.

    They still make them:
    <https://koss.com/products/pro4aa>

    --
    Jeff

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