• New silicon chip breakthrough could extend Moore's law for years

    From Jan Panteltje@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 03, 2026 13:00:21
    From:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/05/260530053412.htm

    New 3D silicon chip breakthrough could extend Moore?s Law for years
    Date:
    May 30, 2026
    Source:
    University of Illinois Grainger College of Engineering
    Summary:
    As traditional chip miniaturization slows, researchers have found a way to
    pack more computing power into the same space by stacking silicon circuits
    in multiple layers.
    The new process uses ultra-thin silicon membranes and low-temperature
    manufacturing techniques to overcome a major obstacle that has long
    blocked the production of true 3D chips.

    Will it work?
    dissipation?

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  • From Glen Walpert@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 03, 2026 17:02:42
    On Wed, 03 Jun 2026 13:00:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    From:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/05/260530053412.htm

    New 3D silicon chip breakthrough could extend Moore?s Law for years
    Date:
    May 30, 2026
    Source:
    University of Illinois Grainger College of Engineering
    Summary:
    As traditional chip miniaturization slows, researchers have found a way
    to pack more computing power into the same space by stacking silicon
    circuits in multiple layers.
    The new process uses ultra-thin silicon membranes and low-temperature
    manufacturing techniques to overcome a major obstacle that has long
    blocked the production of true 3D chips.

    Will it work?
    dissipation?

    Zeiss video showing 3D memory in volume production starting 2015:
    (starts around 5 minutes in)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6iL_oE6z5A

    Advantage of new method not at all clear from sciencedaily article.

    Zeiss has a bunch of entertaining videos on lithography including latest generation of EUV.:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6c3vzIGo9o

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  • From Carl@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 03, 2026 14:28:48
    On 6/3/26 9:00 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    From:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/05/260530053412.htm

    New 3D silicon chip breakthrough could extend Moore?s Law for years
    Date:
    May 30, 2026
    Source:
    University of Illinois Grainger College of Engineering
    Summary:
    As traditional chip miniaturization slows, researchers have found a way to
    pack more computing power into the same space by stacking silicon circuits
    in multiple layers.
    The new process uses ultra-thin silicon membranes and low-temperature
    manufacturing techniques to overcome a major obstacle that has long
    blocked the production of true 3D chips.

    Will it work?
    dissipation?

    Last week Huawei announced this (from brave search):

    "Huawei has unveiled the LogicFolding chip architecture and the Tau
    Scaling Law, a new design framework intended to bypass US sanctions by focusing on signal propagation speed rather than traditional transistor miniaturization. This approach aims to achieve transistor density
    equivalent to 1.4nm chips by 2031, though the immediate commercial
    application will be the Kirin 2026 smartphone chip launching in fall 2026."

    Reuters has a decent article, and I've seen at least one youtube video
    on it that I'm pretty sure said they had working prototype chips now and expect full production this fall. Wonder how the UI process compares?

    --
    Regards,
    Carl

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  • From Jan Panteltje@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 03, 2026 18:36:50
    Glen Walpert <nospam@null.void>wrote:
    On Wed, 03 Jun 2026 13:00:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    From:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/05/260530053412.htm

    New 3D silicon chip breakthrough could extend Moore?s Law for years
    Date:
    May 30, 2026
    Source:
    University of Illinois Grainger College of Engineering
    Summary:
    As traditional chip miniaturization slows, researchers have found a way
    to pack more computing power into the same space by stacking silicon
    circuits in multiple layers.
    The new process uses ultra-thin silicon membranes and low-temperature
    manufacturing techniques to overcome a major obstacle that has long
    blocked the production of true 3D chips.

    Will it work?
    dissipation?

    Zeiss video showing 3D memory in volume production starting 2015:
    (starts around 5 minutes in)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6iL_oE6z5A

    Nice!


    Advantage of new method not at all clear from sciencedaily article.

    Zeiss has a bunch of entertaining videos on lithography including latest >generation of EUV.:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6c3vzIGo9o

    Thank you for the links.
    I have now seen all 3 parts, took and saved some screen-shots too.
    seems Chromium browser now allows you to save a specific video frame too
    (pause video, use right mouse click in video and select that option): -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 252198 Jun 3 19:59 videoframe_478600.png
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 203354 Jun 3 20:18 videoframe_268242.png

    Fascinating equipment.. where will it go?
    Stop at the molecular level, make self-organizing transistors / logic?
    Wait a minute: LIFE!
    DNA and RNA level?
    We are .. the advanced chips!
    And chip manufactory, brain cells growing,
    And we, humans, come up with all that stuff, re-inventing ourselves?

    A true miracle..

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  • From Jan Panteltje@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 03, 2026 18:51:14
    Carl <carl.ijamesXX@YYverizon.net>wrote:
    On 6/3/26 9:00 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    From:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/05/260530053412.htm

    New 3D silicon chip breakthrough could extend Moore?s Law for years
    Date:
    May 30, 2026
    Source:
    University of Illinois Grainger College of Engineering
    Summary:
    As traditional chip miniaturization slows, researchers have found a way to >> pack more computing power into the same space by stacking silicon circuits >> in multiple layers.
    The new process uses ultra-thin silicon membranes and low-temperature
    manufacturing techniques to overcome a major obstacle that has long
    blocked the production of true 3D chips.

    Will it work?
    dissipation?

    Last week Huawei announced this (from brave search):

    "Huawei has unveiled the LogicFolding chip architecture and the Tau
    Scaling Law, a new design framework intended to bypass US sanctions by >focusing on signal propagation speed rather than traditional transistor >miniaturization. This approach aims to achieve transistor density
    equivalent to 1.4nm chips by 2031, though the immediate commercial >application will be the Kirin 2026 smartphone chip launching in fall 2026."

    Reuters has a decent article, and I've seen at least one youtube video
    on it that I'm pretty sure said they had working prototype chips now and >expect full production this fall. Wonder how the UI process compares?

    Huawei had no choice, the US war house nut case forbidding ASML to export to China,
    Huawei makes nice stuff, I use Huawei 4G USB sticks to access internet and post this.
    Their stuff is near perfect.
    And automatically detected by my Raspberry Pies and Ubuntu laptop running Linux.


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  • From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 03, 2026 14:17:31
    On Wed, 03 Jun 2026 13:00:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    From:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/05/260530053412.htm

    New 3D silicon chip breakthrough could extend Moore?s Law for years
    Date:
    May 30, 2026
    Source:
    University of Illinois Grainger College of Engineering
    Summary:
    As traditional chip miniaturization slows, researchers have found a way to pack more computing power into the same space by stacking silicon circuits
    in multiple layers.
    The new process uses ultra-thin silicon membranes and low-temperature manufacturing techniques to overcome a major obstacle that has long
    blocked the production of true 3D chips.

    Will it work?
    dissipation?

    It's wonderful how many breakthroughs there are every day.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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