• Fusion

    From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Monday, April 13, 2026 13:40:57

    https://inertia.com/

    That's interesting, scaling up the NIF idea to commercial levels.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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  • From Glen Walpert@3:633/10 to All on Monday, April 13, 2026 23:53:35
    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:40:57 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    https://inertia.com/

    That's interesting, scaling up the NIF idea to commercial levels.


    John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Another scam looking for suckers to "invest" their money.

    Actual research with a shot at achieving useful results:

    https://www.pppl.gov/nstx-u

    This is a proof of concept demo with lossy copper magnets and a 2 minute inertial stored energy power supply, making it far faster to build and
    test than the same topology with the superconducting magnets which will
    be
    required to achieve wall-plug break even.

    No one has suggested even a vague concept of how high power lasers could
    be made efficient enough to make inertial confinement useful for energy production.

    Glen


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  • From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Monday, April 13, 2026 17:04:20
    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 23:53:35 GMT, Glen Walpert <nospam@null.void>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:40:57 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    https://inertia.com/

    That's interesting, scaling up the NIF idea to commercial levels.


    John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe
    Electronics

    Another scam looking for suckers to "invest" their money.

    Actual research with a shot at achieving useful results:

    https://www.pppl.gov/nstx-u

    This is a proof of concept demo with lossy copper magnets and a 2 minute >inertial stored energy power supply, making it far faster to build and
    test than the same topology with the superconducting magnets which will
    be
    required to achieve wall-plug break even.

    No one has suggested even a vague concept of how high power lasers could
    be made efficient enough to make inertial confinement useful for energy >production.

    Glen

    Nature seems unwilling to let us make fusion work. Every scheme fails
    for some sneaky reason.

    Lots of people are trying, mostly with plasmas.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@3:633/10 to All on Monday, April 13, 2026 18:09:00
    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:40:57 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://inertia.com/

    That's interesting, scaling up the NIF idea to commercial levels.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Looks like they're starting in Livermore, California. They have $450
    million to play with and are hiring 22 people. <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-02-11/nuclear-fusion-startup-raises-450-million-to-make-power-with-lasers>
    <https://www.fusionenergybase.com/organizations/inertia>
    "Inertia is pursuing a laser indirect drive fusion energy concept.
    They plan to develop a 10 megajoule (MJ) diode-pumped, solid state
    laser driving an indirect drive target with Deuterium-Tritium (DT)
    fuel."

    This looks like a fun position:
    "Firearm Specialist"
    <https://www.fusionenergybase.com/jobs/2262>
    Oddly, the position pays hourly ($35 - $50/hr) instead of salary. I
    randomly skimmed the list for technical positions. Firearm Specialist
    was the only hourly position I found.

    70 Fusion development companies and potential competitors: <https://www.fusionenergybase.com/organizations>
    The fusion energy (research) field might shortly become very crowded.



    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558


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  • From Jan Panteltje@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2026 06:09:31
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 23:53:35 GMT, Glen Walpert <nospam@null.void>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:40:57 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    https://inertia.com/

    That's interesting, scaling up the NIF idea to commercial levels.


    John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe
    Electronics

    Another scam looking for suckers to "invest" their money.

    Actual research with a shot at achieving useful results:

    https://www.pppl.gov/nstx-u

    This is a proof of concept demo with lossy copper magnets and a 2 minute >>inertial stored energy power supply, making it far faster to build and >>test than the same topology with the superconducting magnets which will
    be
    required to achieve wall-plug break even.

    No one has suggested even a vague concept of how high power lasers could >>be made efficient enough to make inertial confinement useful for energy >>production.

    Glen

    Nature seems unwilling to let us make fusion work. Every scheme fails
    for some sneaky reason.

    Lots of people are trying, mostly with plasmas.

    Fusion is simple, desktop
    Farnsworth FUSOR
    https://www.rexresearch.com/farnsworth/fusor.htm

    I observed that effect on the desktop years ago.

    But getting power from it is impossible
    You cannot get more energy out of a spring than you put in compressing it!

    Some flipped out mamaticians (same sort of animals that play string theory ;-) keep brainwashing the masses.



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  • From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2026 02:03:09
    On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 06:09:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 23:53:35 GMT, Glen Walpert <nospam@null.void>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:40:57 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    https://inertia.com/

    That's interesting, scaling up the NIF idea to commercial levels.


    John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe
    Electronics

    Another scam looking for suckers to "invest" their money.

    Actual research with a shot at achieving useful results:

    https://www.pppl.gov/nstx-u

    This is a proof of concept demo with lossy copper magnets and a 2 minute >>>inertial stored energy power supply, making it far faster to build and >>>test than the same topology with the superconducting magnets which will >>>be
    required to achieve wall-plug break even.

    No one has suggested even a vague concept of how high power lasers could >>>be made efficient enough to make inertial confinement useful for energy >>>production.

    Glen

    Nature seems unwilling to let us make fusion work. Every scheme fails
    for some sneaky reason.

    Lots of people are trying, mostly with plasmas.

    Fusion is simple, desktop
    Farnsworth FUSOR
    https://www.rexresearch.com/farnsworth/fusor.htm

    I observed that effect on the desktop years ago.

    But getting power from it is impossible
    You cannot get more energy out of a spring than you put in compressing it!

    A hydrogen bomb is not a spring.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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  • From Bill Sloman@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2026 23:23:47
    On 14/04/2026 9:53 am, Glen Walpert wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:40:57 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    https://inertia.com/

    That's interesting, scaling up the NIF idea to commercial levels.


    John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe
    Electronics

    Another scam looking for suckers to "invest" their money.

    Actual research with a shot at achieving useful results:

    https://www.pppl.gov/nstx-u

    This is a proof of concept demo with lossy copper magnets and a 2 minute inertial stored energy power supply, making it far faster to build and
    test than the same topology with the superconducting magnets which will
    be
    required to achieve wall-plug break even.

    No one has suggested even a vague concept of how high power lasers could
    be made efficient enough to make inertial confinement useful for energy production.

    That's not actually true.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HB11_Energy

    definitely has such a scheme. It has fused hydrogen and boron nuclei
    which has the advantage of not producing neutrons as a by-product.

    The chirped laser pulses they use are unique - if tricky to produce -
    but they are working on scaling up the process to a degree that can make
    money as well as.

    Boron has an atomic number of five so five protons and an atomic weight
    of 10.8, which is to say that 80.1% of it is B-11 and the other 19.9%
    B-10. Hitting the B-11 nucleus hard with with a proton give you three
    alpha particles - which accounts for the six protons and six neutrons in
    He-4 and releases quite a lot of energy.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2026 13:29:21
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 06:09:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 23:53:35 GMT, Glen Walpert <nospam@null.void>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:40:57 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    https://inertia.com/

    That's interesting, scaling up the NIF idea to commercial levels.


    John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe
    Electronics

    Another scam looking for suckers to "invest" their money.

    Actual research with a shot at achieving useful results:

    https://www.pppl.gov/nstx-u

    This is a proof of concept demo with lossy copper magnets and a 2 minute >>>>inertial stored energy power supply, making it far faster to build and >>>>test than the same topology with the superconducting magnets which will >>>>be
    required to achieve wall-plug break even.

    No one has suggested even a vague concept of how high power lasers could >>>>be made efficient enough to make inertial confinement useful for energy >>>>production.

    Glen

    Nature seems unwilling to let us make fusion work. Every scheme fails
    for some sneaky reason.

    Lots of people are trying, mostly with plasmas.

    Fusion is simple, desktop
    Farnsworth FUSOR
    https://www.rexresearch.com/farnsworth/fusor.htm

    I observed that effect on the desktop years ago.

    But getting power from it is impossible
    You cannot get more energy out of a spring than you put in compressing it!

    A hydrogen bomb is not a spring.

    Maybe think of it as shrapnel,
    the bomb is triggered by a normal chain reaction with Uranium / Plutonium,
    but much 'shrapnel' is formed that makes it seem more powerful.

    Like a firecracker with small metal balls around it exploding.

    A chain reaction (the normal bomb), is when you have springs hold together by small fragile clips;
    hit one and the clip fails and the spring expands and jumps away (*radiation). When you throw such a fragile spring with clip at a bunch of other ones
    then the explosion / release) of the first one triggers all other springs, 'Chain reaction"!
    'explosion'

    It is all so simple.
    How did the springs wind up compressed and locked by small clips?
    If** the universe started as a big bang there was the required density, exploded, expanded,
    not all springs were 'released', keep digging for Uranium, some of it is ready to go.

    Simple

    But compressing the springs again ? no way will you get more out then you put in.


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  • From Glen Walpert@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2026 22:19:44
    On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 23:23:47 +1000, Bill Sloman wrote:

    On 14/04/2026 9:53 am, Glen Walpert wrote:
    On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 13:40:57 -0700, john larkin wrote:

    https://inertia.com/

    That's interesting, scaling up the NIF idea to commercial levels.


    John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe
    Electronics

    Another scam looking for suckers to "invest" their money.

    Actual research with a shot at achieving useful results:

    https://www.pppl.gov/nstx-u

    This is a proof of concept demo with lossy copper magnets and a 2
    minute inertial stored energy power supply, making it far faster to
    build and test than the same topology with the superconducting magnets
    which will be required to achieve wall-plug break even.

    No one has suggested even a vague concept of how high power lasers
    could be made efficient enough to make inertial confinement useful for
    energy production.

    That's not actually true.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HB11_Energy

    definitely has such a scheme. It has fused hydrogen and boron nuclei
    which has the advantage of not producing neutrons as a by-product.

    Interesting technique, but not inertial confinement, and still subject to
    the same laser efficiency issues as inertial confinement. No meaningful
    test data turned up in my search.

    The chirped laser pulses they use are unique - if tricky to produce -
    but they are working on scaling up the process to a degree that can make money as well as.

    Not unique, widely used since invented in 1985:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirped_pulse_amplification

    Also used in inertial confinement research, eg:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_for_Laser_Energetics

    Boron has an atomic number of five so five protons and an atomic weight
    of 10.8, which is to say that 80.1% of it is B-11 and the other 19.9%
    B-10. Hitting the B-11 nucleus hard with with a proton give you three
    alpha particles - which accounts for the six protons and six neutrons in
    He-4 and releases quite a lot of energy.

    Seems to be about as far along as inertial confinement was in 1980.




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