I have been using COMCAST as my email provider for decades, but they
are now exiting the ISP business altogether, transferring us to Yahoo
mail, which may or may not be ideal. Anyway, I'm wondering if I
should go to a different ISP, and maybe buy my own domain as well.
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the
cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"I heavily favor the free providers. [. . .] |
| |
|I've had dozens of "primary" email addresses over the past 50 years."| |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
Are there really so many free providers?
I have been using COMCAST as my email provider for decades, but they
are now exiting the ISP business altogether, transferring us to Yahoo
mail, which may or may not be ideal. Anyway, I'm wondering if I
should go to a different ISP, and maybe buy my own domain as well.
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the
cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Joe
joegwinn@comcast.netwrote:
I have been using COMCAST as my email provider for decades, but theyare now exiting the ISP business altogether, transferring us to Yahoo
mail, which may or may not be ideal. Anyway, I'm wondering if I
should go to a different ISP, and maybe buy my own domain as well.
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud >provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the
cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Joe
On 4/10/2026 5:39 PM, Niocl?s P?l Caile?n de Ghloucester wrote:
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
|---------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"I heavily favor the free providers. [. . .] |
| |
|I've had dozens of "primary" email addresses over the past 50 years."|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------|
Are there really so many free providers?
I like GMX.com and Mail.com. There are others but most of
my accounts are on these. I keep a few "precious" email
addresses but usually give out aliases tied to those. In this
way, if I want to "revoke" an address, I don't have to advise
a lot of people of the change -- just "drop" the alias from the
account and anyone using it loses the ability to contact me
(the "precious" addresses anchor the accounts so you don't want
to give those out as "dropping" them effectively deletes the entire
account -- and all aliases tied to them).
I've historically had small (local) ISPs in the various places that
I've lived. These are often bought-out, absorbed, etc. Email
is often a casualty of such "consolidations" so I learned not
to let an ISP host any email, web, etc. accounts (it also
makes moving-by-choice a lot easier)
Ages ago, I hosted my own mail server. But, this was more an
exercise than an "efficient choice". It had advantages when
you weren't permanently connected to the internet (e.g., UUCP mail)
joegwinn@comcast.net wrote in news:capitk1mtti4d3itsgabkc3r79r4p1saji@ >4ax.com:
I have been using COMCAST as my email provider for decades, but they
are now exiting the ISP business altogether, transferring us to Yahoo
mail, which may or may not be ideal. Anyway, I'm wondering if I
should go to a different ISP, and maybe buy my own domain as well.
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud
provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the
cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Joe
Here is my experience.
I was grandfathered perhaps a dozen times as my orizinal email provider/ISP >sold off everything. I'm currently on a Road Runner account, rr.com. >Support has been good through the years. I also worry that they will
decide to close up some day. I'm a full SMTP/POP3 user. Nothing stays on >the ISP. I have all email for past accounts and it still fits on my local >drive. I don't keep spam, but most real communications are here. I backup >of course but not very often, You never know when a new home computer is >needed. This arrangement allows me to view and send email even when the >power is out or the ISP has an issue. My wife uses a gmail account and her >phone so often yells, alerts me!?, whenever she has an issue. I just check >my system and can tell her what the real issue is and perhaps when she
might get service back. That frustrates the always on people so much. We >get plenty of unscheduled outages here due to bad diggers, traffic
accidents that take out hubs, and of course the rare extended power outage.
I have no idea if RR can work for you. I used to self host several
services from home but don't now.
Best of luck to you!
joegwinn@comcast.netwrote:
I have been using COMCAST as my email provider for decades, but theyare now exiting the ISP business altogether, transferring us to Yahoo
mail, which may or may not be ideal. Anyway, I'm wondering if I
should go to a different ISP, and maybe buy my own domain as well.
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud >>provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the >>cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Joe
My website and pop email is hosted by
<https://www.antagonist.nl/>
They do speak english.
I changed to them a few years back when 'godaddy' hosting stopped with pop email.
I'll look into these. Thanks,Mail.com and GMX.com have such similar web sites that I wouldn't
I have been using COMCAST as my email provider for decades, but they
are now exiting the ISP business altogether, transferring us to Yahoo
mail, which may or may not be ideal. Anyway, I'm wondering if I
should go to a different ISP, and maybe buy my own domain as well.
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud >provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the
cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
I have about 10 computers which share the same email address. I could
see managing 2 or 3 shared accounts, but not 10. I'm currently using
IMAP4 and encrypting anything important with GPG4win: <https://www.gpg4win.org>
If email security is an issue, I suggest you look into encrypted
email. I helped setup encrypted email using Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail>
and Veracrypt for CAD files:
<https://veracrypt.io/en/Home.html>
This was for a collaborative product design project I was working on.
It mostly worked but herding cats would have been easier than
convincing some of the participants to cooperate.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud
provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the
cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
For email, I've been using ionos.com (formerly 1&1.com) for about 30
years for a few domain registrations and a few webmail accounts. <https://www.ionos.com/office-solutions/email-hosting#tariffs>
No clue about support or customer service because I've never needed to contact them. Since I'm paying for 9 email counts and 4 domains, it's difficult to provide a cost. I pay $12/month for most months with one
annual spike to $32 for the for the domains.
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Suggestion: You're asking in an electronic design newsgroup. You
might do better asking in a group, mailing list or forum that deals
with internet related questions.
On 4/11/2026 11:45 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
I have about 10 computers which share the same email address. I could
see managing 2 or 3 shared accounts, but not 10. I'm currently using
Set up a machine as your email relay. Then, connect to *it*
for each of your computers. Don't "save" anything on any of
your client machines. In that way, everything resides in one place.
(You can get a little 10W, headless box for that purpose as it
doesn't take much to handle mail).
I do this for usenet as it also allows that "agent" to sort through
posts BEFORE I (as a client) see them to sort out the cruft.
IMAP4 and encrypting anything important with GPG4win:
<https://www.gpg4win.org>
If email security is an issue, I suggest you look into encrypted
email. I helped setup encrypted email using Proton Mail
<https://proton.me/mail>
and Veracrypt for CAD files:
<https://veracrypt.io/en/Home.html>
These are usually more difficult to use as getting end-to-end
encryption requires using a special client. Tutanota also
offers a similar service (as do others).
This was for a collaborative product design project I was working on.
It mostly worked but herding cats would have been easier than
convincing some of the participants to cooperate.
+42
A paranoid client wanted me to send/receive encrypted mail out of
(misplaced) fear someone would snoop on his "secrets". I walked
away from the job as communication shouldn't be that tedious as
to *discourage* it!
--With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud
provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the
cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
For email, I've been using ionos.com (formerly 1&1.com) for about 30
years for a few domain registrations and a few webmail accounts.
<https://www.ionos.com/office-solutions/email-hosting#tariffs>
No clue about support or customer service because I've never needed to
contact them. Since I'm paying for 9 email counts and 4 domains, it's
difficult to provide a cost. I pay $12/month for most months with one
annual spike to $32 for the for the domains.
Note that the name registration is a separate issue from hosting.
You can register a domain name and have someone else host whatever
services you want. There, the issue is how well they will protect
the domain from the expected threats and trash.
You also don't need to register a domain to have a machine
accessible from The Internet. Though many ISP EULAs prohibit
activities associated with "running a server". This is
usually imposed to limit traffic (which is all they typically
provide).
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Suggestion: You're asking in an electronic design newsgroup. You
might do better asking in a group, mailing list or forum that deals
with internet related questions.
Set up a machine as your email relay. Then, connect to *it*
for each of your computers. Don't "save" anything on any of
your client machines. In that way, everything resides in one place.
(You can get a little 10W, headless box for that purpose as it
doesn't take much to handle mail).
Good idea but it has a problem. At some point, I need to archive all
my incoming and outgoing email in one place. That's easy enough from
a desktop, which is always connected to the archive server via
Ethernet or wi-fi, but not so easy with portable devices such as
phones, tablets and laptops.
I attempted to do this in the past with
bad results. One misconfigured MUA (mail user agent) and the archive
is partly or totally lost. Adding an email relay solves part of the
problem, but also increases complexity. Adding encryption (gpg4win)
creates complications, such as having to approve forwarding encrypted
email or re-encrypting it.
Such as system can be made to function,
but I question whether it will be reliable and usable by mere mortals
and paying customers.
I do this for usenet as it also allows that "agent" to sort through
posts BEFORE I (as a client) see them to sort out the cruft.
I thought we were discussing email, not Usenet. Those are two
different nightmares.
IMAP4 and encrypting anything important with GPG4win:
<https://www.gpg4win.org>
If email security is an issue, I suggest you look into encrypted
email. I helped setup encrypted email using Proton Mail
<https://proton.me/mail>
and Veracrypt for CAD files:
<https://veracrypt.io/en/Home.html>
These are usually more difficult to use as getting end-to-end
encryption requires using a special client. Tutanota also
offers a similar service (as do others).
Thanks. They're now called Tuta.
<https://tuta.com>
<https://tuta.com/encryption>
I'm not familiar with the service and certainly look at what they have
to offer. Please note that my former problems with herding cats had
little to do with the encryption software and more to do with users
not wanting to do anything "extra" to improve security. I also had
problems dealing with a multitude email client software and a
preference by some users for webmail.
This was for a collaborative product design project I was working on.
It mostly worked but herding cats would have been easier than
convincing some of the participants to cooperate.
+42
Hebrew mysticism had it first: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(number)#Wisdom_literature,_religion,_and_philosophy>
A paranoid client wanted me to send/receive encrypted mail out of
(misplaced) fear someone would snoop on his "secrets". I walked
away from the job as communication shouldn't be that tedious as
to *discourage* it!
That was the reason for all the encryption I mentioned. We were
working on a product where public disclosure on a web site or Internet
forum could have invalidated key patents. Nobody wanted to risk a
leak.
Incidentally, the worst potential leak having someone dig through the
waste or recycling bin for printed or copied documents. We looked at
printer security and decided that it was impossible with the available
tools. We bought shredders for those who needed one, but effective
use was minimal.
On 4/11/2026 6:55 AM, joegwinn@comcast.net wrote:
I'll look into these. Thanks,Mail.com and GMX.com have such similar web sites that I wouldn't
doubt they are the same company (or closely related).
Both support POP3 and IMAP access -- along with "web mail".
[The web interface supports some other "light" applications
but I can't comment on those.]
The "pro tip" is to pick an email address and then create
aliases that map to that address, "publishing" these while
keeping the original "account" address closely held.
The aliases (10?) can be freely destroyed and new ones
created -- though each new one must be unique within the
chosen domain (I think they offer ~100 different domains)
Obviously, a "deleted" address can never be used again...
I have *zero* spam. I dispose of an address when I want to
block those I've given it to from contacting me (e.g.,
using it much like a temporary/disposable email -- like
for a business that decides it would like to "keep in touch"
with you just because you were foolish enough to provide an
email address for them to use in contacting you).
I don't think they allow you to create your own domain.
But, there are others that will service a domain of your
own creation (Zohomail?)
On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 17:05:12 -0400, joegwinn@comcast.net wrote:
I have been using COMCAST as my email provider for decades, but they
are now exiting the ISP business altogether, transferring us to Yahoo
mail, which may or may not be ideal. Anyway, I'm wondering if I
should go to a different ISP, and maybe buy my own domain as well.
Most, if not all, web hosting providers also provide email service. If
you're already paying for web hosting and/or a domain name, you
probably already have "free" email service.
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
I have about 10 computers which share the same email address. I could
see managing 2 or 3 shared accounts, but not 10. I'm currently using
IMAP4 and encrypting anything important with GPG4win: ><https://www.gpg4win.org>
If email security is an issue, I suggest you look into encrypted
email. I helped setup encrypted email using Proton Mail ><https://proton.me/mail>
and Veracrypt for CAD files:
<https://veracrypt.io/en/Home.html>
This was for a collaborative product design project I was working on.
It mostly worked but herding cats would have been easier than
convincing some of the participants to cooperate.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud >>provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the >>cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
For email, I've been using ionos.com (formerly 1&1.com) for about 30
years for a few domain registrations and a few webmail accounts. ><https://www.ionos.com/office-solutions/email-hosting#tariffs>
No clue about support or customer service because I've never needed to >contact them. Since I'm paying for 9 email counts and 4 domains, it's >difficult to provide a cost. I pay $12/month for most months with one
annual spike to $32 for the for the domains.
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Suggestion: You're asking in an electronic design newsgroup. You
might do better asking in a group, mailing list or forum that deals
with internet related questions.
On Sat, 11 Apr 2026 12:09:24 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 4/11/2026 11:45 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions >>>> and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
I have about 10 computers which share the same email address. I could
see managing 2 or 3 shared accounts, but not 10. I'm currently using
Set up a machine as your email relay. Then, connect to *it*
for each of your computers. Don't "save" anything on any of
your client machines. In that way, everything resides in one place.
(You can get a little 10W, headless box for that purpose as it
doesn't take much to handle mail).
Good idea but it has a problem. At some point, I need to archive all
my incoming and outgoing email in one place. That's easy enough from
a desktop, which is always connected to the archive server via
Ethernet or wi-fi, but not so easy with portable devices such as
phones, tablets and laptops. I attempted to do this in the past with
bad results. One misconfigured MUA (mail user agent) and the archive
is partly or totally lost. Adding an email relay solves part of the
problem, but also increases complexity. Adding encryption (gpg4win)
creates complications, such as having to approve forwarding encrypted
email or re-encrypting it. Such as system can be made to function,
but I question whether it will be reliable and usable by mere mortals
and paying customers.
I do this for usenet as it also allows that "agent" to sort through
posts BEFORE I (as a client) see them to sort out the cruft.
I thought we were discussing email, not Usenet. Those are two
different nightmares.
IMAP4 and encrypting anything important with GPG4win:
<https://www.gpg4win.org>
If email security is an issue, I suggest you look into encrypted
email. I helped setup encrypted email using Proton Mail
<https://proton.me/mail>
and Veracrypt for CAD files:
<https://veracrypt.io/en/Home.html>
These are usually more difficult to use as getting end-to-end
encryption requires using a special client. Tutanota also
offers a similar service (as do others).
Thanks. They're now called Tuta.
<https://tuta.com>
<https://tuta.com/encryption>
I'm not familiar with the service and certainly look at what they have
to offer. Please note that my former problems with herding cats had
little to do with the encryption software and more to do with users
not wanting to do anything "extra" to improve security. I also had
problems dealing with a multitude email client software and a
preference by some users for webmail.
This was for a collaborative product design project I was working on.
It mostly worked but herding cats would have been easier than
convincing some of the participants to cooperate.
+42
Hebrew mysticism had it first: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(number)#Wisdom_literature,_religion,_and_philosophy>
A paranoid client wanted me to send/receive encrypted mail out of >>(misplaced) fear someone would snoop on his "secrets". I walked
away from the job as communication shouldn't be that tedious as
to *discourage* it!
That was the reason for all the encryption I mentioned. We were
working on a product where public disclosure on a web site or Internet
forum could have invalidated key patents. Nobody wanted to risk a
leak.
Incidentally, the worst potential leak having someone dig through the
waste or recycling bin for printed or copied documents. We looked at
printer security and decided that it was impossible with the available
tools. We bought shredders for those who needed one, but effective
use was minimal.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud >>>> provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the >>>> cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
For email, I've been using ionos.com (formerly 1&1.com) for about 30
years for a few domain registrations and a few webmail accounts.
<https://www.ionos.com/office-solutions/email-hosting#tariffs>
No clue about support or customer service because I've never needed to
contact them. Since I'm paying for 9 email counts and 4 domains, it's
difficult to provide a cost. I pay $12/month for most months with one
annual spike to $32 for the for the domains.
Note that the name registration is a separate issue from hosting.
You can register a domain name and have someone else host whatever
services you want. There, the issue is how well they will protect
the domain from the expected threats and trash.
You also don't need to register a domain to have a machine
accessible from The Internet. Though many ISP EULAs prohibit
activities associated with "running a server". This is
usually imposed to limit traffic (which is all they typically
provide).
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Suggestion: You're asking in an electronic design newsgroup. You
might do better asking in a group, mailing list or forum that deals
with internet related questions.
I have been using COMCAST as my email provider for decades, but they
are now exiting the ISP business altogether, transferring us to Yahoo
mail, which may or may not be ideal. Anyway, I'm wondering if I
should go to a different ISP, and maybe buy my own domain as well.
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud >provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the
cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Joe
Check out Teksavvy.
https://www.teksavvy.com/
RL
Legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
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|"Check out Teksavvy. |
| |
| https://www.teksavvy.com/ |
| |
|RL" |
|---------------------------|
"403 Forbidden
Microsoft-Azure-Application-Gateway/v2"
said that website.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 17:05:12 -0400, joegwinn@comcast.net wrote:
I have been using COMCAST as my email provider for decades, but they
are now exiting the ISP business altogether, transferring us to Yahoo
mail, which may or may not be ideal. Anyway, I'm wondering if I
should go to a different ISP, and maybe buy my own domain as well.
The requirement that really sorts the ISP offerings out is long-term
full no-fooling support of the POP3 protocol.
With POP3, storage is local and is backed up as well as one provisions
and operates it, with multiple backup cycles like in the old days.
With IMAP, everything is synced, so a burp anywhere sometimes causes
total loss, followed by expressions of deepest sympathy from the cloud >>provider, but no remedy. Photos being the classic example - these
cannot be replaced.
POP3 completely excludes Apple, Microsoft and Google. They are in the >>cloud only.
Yahoo and NeoMail do support POP3.
Getting my own domain is a separate issue, but I'm thinking about
that. Looking around, there seems to be a lot of chicanery going on.
My default is probably GoDaddy.
So I'm looking for ideas and and suggestions. And warnings.
Joe
Check out Teksavvy.
<https://www.teksavvy.com/>
On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 10:58:48 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
Check out Teksavvy.
https://www.teksavvy.com/
RL
TekSavvy is Canada only and does not provide service in USA. ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TekSavvy>
On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 09:53:30 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 10:58:48 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
Check out Teksavvy.
https://www.teksavvy.com/
RL
TekSavvy is Canada only and does not provide service in USA. >><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TekSavvy>
Ahh.
Joe
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