Dear all:

I am interested in portable audio or video or audiovisual recorders
which are smaller than a tablet and whose recordings can be easily
backed up onto a computer e.g. to the Internet with live streaming and
which can run without occupying my hands.

I am interested in for example OM SYSTEM: HTTPS://dictation.OMSystem.com/en/industry-solutions/law-enforcement


A friend recommends me to buy Ray-Ban Meta AI glasses. Are they any
good? They need a cell telephone (supposedly - I suspect that a tablet
might work: but expensive phones and computers get robbed) and a Meta
account.

HTTPS://WWW.Ray-Ban.com/ireland/electronics/RW4012ray-ban%20meta%20wayfarer%20-%20gen%202-transparent%20grey/8056262909904

Do you know if any manufacturers make rival products (preferrably without needing a mobile phone without needing a tablet without needing Meta)?

This friend did not say this particular model. I note
"Note: The Livestream feature is only available on Ray-Ban Meta Gen 1."
says HTTPS://WWW.Ray-Ban.com/ireland/c/frequently-asked-questions-ray-ban-meta-smart-glasses
so an old model is probably better.

"MY STREAM LOOKS BLURRY OR PIXELATED. WHAT SHOULD I DO?
Live videos from your glasses will be lower resolution than recorded
videos from your glasses or phone."
says HTTPS://WWW.Ray-Ban.com/ireland/c/frequently-asked-questions-ray-ban-meta-smart-glasses

This is not reassuring:

"DESPITE HAVING SOME BATTERY LEFT, I AM UNABLE TO RECORD VIDEOS. WHY?
Video capture is a power heavy use case and for a small battery with less
than 15% charge there is a significant brownout risk (voltage drop that
could damage the battery)."
says HTTPS://WWW.Ray-Ban.com/ireland/c/frequently-asked-questions-ray-ban-meta-smart-glasses

I make recordings which last hours! E.g. HTTPS://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/drochdhliodoiri/mu/Rioghachd_Aonaichte_na_Breatainne_Moire_agus_na_h-Eireann_a_Tuath/um_Thuaisceart_Fail/Armstrong_Solicitors/This_is_not_your_country._Go_to_your_country__filename_Recording_20140804_101602.3gpp


A GoPro camera might also be an option:
HTTPS://GoPro.com


Thanks for insights or feedback!

(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

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On 2026/7/17 19:52:59, C¢il¡n Niocl s¡n Glost‚ir wrote:

Dear all:

I am interested in portable audio or video or audiovisual recorders

Which?

And, do you want to record covertly?

which are smaller than a tablet and whose recordings can be easily
backed up onto a computer e.g. to the Internet with live streaming and

Do you mean a live link/save? If not, lots of such devices record to a
memory card or internal memory; many laptops can read memory cards (and
you can get a card reader for a desktop if it doesn't already have a
card slot). I don't know about tablets - I think some can read memory
cards; if not, again you can get a card reader, though make sure you get
one with a connection to suit what the tablet's got.

which can run without occupying my hands.

Most can be set going and will then continue to record until the memory
card is full or they run out of battery. If you mean you want to _start_
the recording without touching it, I don't know; many years ago there
were sunglasses with a stills camera in that could be triggered by a
remote in your pocket (IIRR it was disc-shaped), so there are probably
ones with video recorders similar by now.
[]

A friend recommends me to buy Ray-Ban Meta AI glasses. Are they any

I can't see why you'd need AI for this sort of purpose.

I presume with the name Ray-ban they'll be expensive; I would _hope_
they're good enough to justify that, but I've no idea. If you just want
video recording glasses, I'm sure you can find some that cost a lot less.

Beware - covert recording, especially pictures and videos, is of dubious legality in many countries, possibly totally illegal.

good? They need a cell telephone (supposedly - I suspect that a tablet
might work: but expensive phones and computers get robbed) and a Meta account.

Again, I ask do you want it to live stream, or will saving to a memory
card suffice, for later copying? If the latter, you don't need any fancy equipment, just a card reader.
[]

Do you know if any manufacturers make rival products (preferrably without needing a mobile phone without needing a tablet without needing Meta)?

Put "spy glasses" or something similar into ebay; you'll find lots.

If audio alone will suffice, I've seen ones that look like just a USB
memory stick.
[]
Obviously they won't be hi-fi (and may be mono); if you just want
speech, they're probably fine. If you want good quality stereo, there
are plenty of audio recorders; some with in-built microphones, some
ehich take external (some can use either). They tend to look a bit like
a TV remote control, though may be smaller. Last time I looked, Olympus
made some, but I'm sure there are plenty of makes.

Is there any reason you can't just use your smartphone?
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Dear Mister Gilliver,

Thanks for this good rapid response!

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.UK> wrote: |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"> Dear all: |

| I am interested in portable audio or video or audiovisual recorders |

| | |Which?" | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I am interested in all of these. I use recordings in court cases
against defendants. An opponent was angry so I was asked: "Are you
recording [. . .] Do you have on you now a sound-recording device?" so
a judge tried to not laugh at her.

I tend to rely on audio recordings more. If I had something like a
GoPro camera or glasses, then I might accumulate more video evidence,
but normal persons cannot read lips. Of course, audio recordings
cannot see!

I do not need a microphone and a camera to be integrated into a single
recorder - but Ray-Ban Meta AI glasses have so integrated
sensors. Tablets and smartphones also have integrated sensors - but I
need to use my hands to hold a tablet during a video recording which
is not practical. A defendant could easily grab a tablet or a phone
and throw it to a ground or wall and stomp on it to destroy evidence.

I made this directory:
HTTPS://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/FFMPEG_etc/
It is currently mainly about audio recordings. A defendant argued that
an audio recording was not of a good quality. If a plea like that
could ever be successful, then perhaps I would need a better
microphone. I do not own the best microphone. Indeed, even a solicitor
who reprents me complained that not every word was easy to make out.

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.UK> wrote: |----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"And, do you want to record covertly?" | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I do not need to record covertly. Covert recorders might be of
inferior qualities. It is not practical to hold the best recorder
right in a defendant's face!

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"> which are smaller than a tablet and whose recordings can be easily |

backed up onto a computer e.g. to the Internet with live streaming and |

| | |Do you mean a live link/save?" | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Yes (but I must consider options which are actually available within a
price of circa a few thousand pounds, so I would consider products
without a live link/save). I prefer a live link/save which would
upload to Insomnia247.NL instead of to be restricted to a 3rd-party
website which I cannot control (e.g. Facebook) - but as the most
expensive Ray-Ban Meta AI glasses that I found cost under a few
hundred pounds then maybe being restricted to Meta is not too
restrictive.

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"I don't know about tablets" | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

An Apple iPad is good for recording a video with hands - but I do not
want to use hands, and a big Apple logo is like a sign saying "I am
rich. Please rob me!" A non-Apple tablet is untrustworthy for a video
recording (but good for an audio recording).

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"[. ..] If you mean you want to _start_ | |the recording without touching it," | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Touching hands to start a recording is OK.

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |" I don't know; many years ago there | |were sunglasses with a stills camera in that could be triggered by a | |remote in your pocket (IIRR it was disc-shaped)," | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Thanks! Interesting! I am ignorant thereof.

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"> A friend recommends me to buy Ray-Ban Meta AI glasses. Are they any |
| | |I can't see why you'd need AI for this sort of purpose." | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I do not need AI for this. AI is in a marketing name for these
glasses.

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"I presume with the name Ray-ban they'll be expensive;" | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

They are not too expensive . . . if they do not really need a mobile
telephone on a telephone network. I do not use a mobile telephone, so
starting a mobile-telephone-network contract just to use these glasses
is probably too expensive. All mobile telephones which I used to use
were taken off me - usually as thefts. I do not need another phone to
be robbed off me.

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"Beware - covert recording, especially pictures and videos, is of dubious | |legality in many countries, possibly totally illegal." | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Thanks for this warning. Actually protections like Article 19 of the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 1948 are common. I record in a jurisdiction whose minister for justice sent a certificate to me
confirming that covert recordings are legal. Lawyers who represent are
happy that I record.

For examples of precedents in various jurisdictions including the
British Isles cf. HTTPS://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/drochdhliodoiri/mun/Phortagail/Sandra_Roxo/taifead_dlithiuil.2026-07-08.htm

Also cf. HTTPS://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/drochdhliodoiri/mun/Phortagail/Sandra_Roxo/without_Truth_there_is_no_Justice/

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"Put "spy glasses" or something similar into ebay; you'll find lots." | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Thanks.

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"If audio alone will suffice, I've seen ones that look like just a USB | |memory stick." | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Thanks. I often use a tablet for audio recordings, but a tablet is a
bit big and heavy. A USB-memory-stick-sized recorder could be
preferable if it would not sacrifice qualities as it could fit into a
pocket. Do you know if it would be inferior to this tablet recorder? HTTPS://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/drochdhliodoiri/mu/Eirinn/Mary_O_Malley_Costello/2026-03-18a_Judge_Mary_O_Malley_Costello_rudely_left_whilst_I_spake_to_her__2026_03_18_12_27_41OnlineConverter_com.m4a

Mono is fine.

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"[. . .] Olympus | |made some, but I'm sure there are plenty of makes." | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Olympus used to make recorders marketed for recording lectures, which
can also fast forward past silence. Olympus split into 2
companies. The new audio company thereof is OM SYSTEM.

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"Is there any reason you can't just use your smartphone?" | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I can use a smart ex-phone via WiFi. It is an ex-phone because it is
not still connected to a phone network.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

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On 2026/7/17 22:45:42, C¢il¡n Niocl s¡n Glost‚ir wrote:
[snip]

I am interested in all of these. I use recordings in court cases
against defendants. An opponent was angry so I was asked: "Are you
recording [. . .] Do you have on you now a sound-recording device?" so
a judge tried to not laugh at her.

Are you talking about actually recording in court? I think in most
countries that is not allowed - the official court recording is the only
one allowed. Or in some cases accredited media.
[]

I do not need a microphone and a camera to be integrated into a single recorder - but Ray-Ban Meta AI glasses have so integrated

These days, I think most video recording devices have audio recording to
go with the video, though not necessarily good quality.
[]

It is currently mainly about audio recordings. A defendant argued that
an audio recording was not of a good quality. If a plea like that
could ever be successful, then perhaps I would need a better

For both video and audio, I suspect the main problem you have is proving
you have not edited the recording(s). The basic quality will be up to
the jury to judge. (Though IANAL.)
[]

I do not need to record covertly. Covert recorders might be of

[]

|Do you mean a live link/save?" []

Yes (but I must consider options which are actually available within a
price of circa a few thousand pounds, so I would consider products

I am not the person to be asking: devices I have looked at have been in
the range of a few pounds to a few tens of pounds. If you are thinking
of spending thousands, you need to be asking someone else!

without a live link/save). I prefer a live link/save which would
upload to Insomnia247.NL instead of to be restricted to a 3rd-party
website which I cannot control (e.g. Facebook) - but as the most
expensive Ray-Ban Meta AI glasses that I found cost under a few
hundred pounds then maybe being restricted to Meta is not too
restrictive.

Do you own insomnia247.nl? If not, setting up your own website - which
you then would control - is neither expensive nor difficult. Though why
would you want to put the material on a website, rather than just keep
it on memory sticks/cards or local disc storage? (To be brought out in
court when necessary.)
[]

want to use hands, and a big Apple logo is like a sign saying "I am
rich. Please rob me!" A non-Apple tablet is untrustworthy for a video

You could always tape over it (maybe with a picture of a cheap logo)!

recording (but good for an audio recording).

I am sure nowadays you can get good cameras (mainly in 'phones) made by
other makes.
[]

|"I presume with the name Ray-ban they'll be expensive;" |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

They are not too expensive . . . if they do not really need a mobile telephone on a telephone network. I do not use a mobile telephone, so starting a mobile-telephone-network contract just to use these glasses
is probably too expensive. All mobile telephones which I used to use
were taken off me - usually as thefts. I do not need another phone to
be robbed off me.

I still do not understand why you need to upload while recording at all,
rather than just record to a memory card. You have said you do not need
a live link.
[]

|"Put "spy glasses" or something similar into ebay; you'll find lots." |

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Thanks.

Have you done that?

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

|"If audio alone will suffice, I've seen ones that look like just a USB |

< |memory stick." |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Thanks. I often use a tablet for audio recordings, but a tablet is a
bit big and heavy. A USB-memory-stick-sized recorder could be
preferable if it would not sacrifice qualities as it could fit into a
pocket. Do you know if it would be inferior to this tablet recorder?

Recording through the pocket material probably would reduce the quality.
Since you are talking thousands of pounds, why not buy a few different
cheap ones and try them out? I think I've seen those sort for less than
ten pounds, so you should be able to buy several different models to try without affecting your budget. I think some have internal memory (you
read from them just like a USB stick), and some take memory cards.
[]

|"Is there any reason you can't just use your smartphone?" |

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I can use a smart ex-phone via WiFi. It is an ex-phone because it is
not still connected to a phone network.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

So why do you need further recording devices?
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More people watch live theatre every year than Premier League football
matches. - Libby Purves, RT 2017/9/30-10/6

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Dear Mister Gilliver,

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.UK> wrote: |------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"On 2026/7/17 22:45:42, C¢il¡n Niocl s¡n Glost‚ir wrote: |
|Are you talking about actually recording in court? [. . .] |
|[. . .]" | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Not necessarily.

|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"> It is currently mainly about audio recordings. A defendant argued that|

an audio recording was not of a good quality. If a plea like that | could ever be successful, then perhaps I would need a better |

| | |For both video and audio, I suspect the main problem you have is proving | |you have not edited the recording(s). [. . .] |
|[. . .]" | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Lawyers said that they want an expert witness to confirm that I did
not edit a recording. Do you want to be this expert witness? How much
do you charge?

A complication may be that they intend to use expert witnesses who are
locally based. (We are not in the UK.)

|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"Do you own insomnia247.nl? [. . .]" | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|

No. I use an account on it and I am allowed to do a lot on it. E.g.
du --human-readable
[. . .]
9.6G .

ulimit -a
real-time non-blocking time (microseconds, -R) unlimited
core file size (blocks, -c) 0
data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited
scheduling priority (-e) 0
file size (blocks, -f) unlimited
pending signals (-i) 514428
max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 16477948
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files (-n) 1024
pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8
POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200
real-time priority (-r) 0
stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192
cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes (-u) 350
virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited
file locks (-x) 150

Insomnia 24/7 has good Internet and computing abilities (24 x AMD
Ryzen 9 3900X @ 3.8GHz). Despite what umlimit might seem to say above,
I am restricted to using about 60% of its computing power at a time -
which is still very liberal!

If you want an account, then let me know or even apply by yourselves.

|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"[. . .] Though why | |would you want to put the material on a website, rather than just keep |
|it on memory sticks/cards or local disc storage? (To be brought out in | |court when necessary.)" | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Persons on the Internet found a recording to be informative.

As crimes happen, it is good to let persons know that they happen.

This website is in a different country than I am, so it is a good
place for back ups.

Defendants like to rewrite history (cf. "Animal Farm" and "1984"), so
I prefer to show that evidence exists since a long time ago and is not
tampered with.

|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"I still do not understand why you need to upload while recording at all,| |rather than just record to a memory card." | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I do not need to upload while recording but it is certainly better to
upload while recording. E.g. a defendant could rob a recorder off
me. Criminals robbed many of my recorders.

|------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"You have said you do not need |
|a live link." | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I do not need a live link whereas I do want a live link.

|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"So why do you need further recording devices?" | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|

I do not own a good hands-free video recorder.

Glasses seem to be a good format.

I would like a hands-free audio recorder which is smaller and lighter
than what I use.

|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"[] |

|"Put "spy glasses" or something similar into ebay; you'll find lots." ||

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |
|
Thanks. |
|

|Have you done that?" |
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Not yet.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

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