• Re: So who deserves it?

    From Whisper@3:633/10 to All on Monday, February 02, 2026 01:42:34
    On 2/02/2026 1:38 am, *skriptis wrote:

    It's Zverev.


    I just checked MPOAT rank.



    Most deserved non-champions.


    #24, Zverev, 29 pts, 0%
    ...
    #32, Berdych, 25 pts, 0%
    ...
    #34, Ferrer, 24 pts, 0%
    ..
    #37, Roche, 23 pts, 0% (he won in amateurs)
    ...
    #39, Tsonga, 22 pts, 0%
    ...
    #49, Martin, 18 pts, 0%



    That's your pitiful group.





    We can do the other way around?
    Most undeserving champions?


    #133, Gaudio, 5 pts, 100%
    ...
    #100, Teacher, 7 pts, 71%
    ...
    #87, Johansson, 9 pts, 56%
    ...
    #80, Gomez, 10 pts, 50%
    #80, Costa 10 pts, 50%
    ...
    #74, Edmondson, 11 pts, 45%





    5, 3, 2, 1 are points for W, F, S, Q.

    It means Gaudio has never reached QF anywhere else in any of the slams, other than his slam winning run which brought him 5. He scored 5 pts in total, and all 5 pts come from his slam winning run, thus 100%.


    Here's the full list.

    https://jumpshare.com/s/hdU8w47KnuNi1cYkdYqt






    Mecir?



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  • From Scall5@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 09:53:41
    On 2/1/2026 8:38 AM, *skriptis wrote:

    It's Zverev.


    I just checked MPOAT rank.



    Most deserved non-champions.


    #24, Zverev, 29 pts, 0%
    ...
    #32, Berdych, 25 pts, 0%
    ...
    #34, Ferrer, 24 pts, 0%
    ..
    #37, Roche, 23 pts, 0% (he won in amateurs)
    ...
    #39, Tsonga, 22 pts, 0%
    ...
    #49, Martin, 18 pts, 0%



    That's your pitiful group.





    We can do the other way around?
    Most undeserving champions?


    #133, Gaudio, 5 pts, 100%
    ...
    #100, Teacher, 7 pts, 71%
    ...
    #87, Johansson, 9 pts, 56%
    ...
    #80, Gomez, 10 pts, 50%
    #80, Costa 10 pts, 50%
    ...
    #74, Edmondson, 11 pts, 45%





    5, 3, 2, 1 are points for W, F, S, Q.

    It means Gaudio has never reached QF anywhere else in any of the slams, other than his slam winning run which brought him 5. He scored 5 pts in total, and all 5 pts come from his slam winning run, thus 100%.


    Here's the full list.

    https://jumpshare.com/s/hdU8w47KnuNi1cYkdYqt




    Awesome data. I would call any of those guys "pitiful". They still
    achieved a hell of a lot on the tennis court.
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    Scall5

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  • From TT@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 20:09:35
    *skriptis kirjoitti 1.2.2026 klo 16.38:

    It's Zverev.


    I just checked MPOAT rank.



    Most deserved non-champions.


    #24, Zverev, 29 pts, 0%
    ...
    #32, Berdych, 25 pts, 0%
    ...
    #34, Ferrer, 24 pts, 0%
    ..
    #37, Roche, 23 pts, 0% (he won in amateurs)
    ...
    #39, Tsonga, 22 pts, 0%
    ...
    #49, Martin, 18 pts, 0%



    That's your pitiful group.





    We can do the other way around?
    Most undeserving champions?


    #133, Gaudio, 5 pts, 100%
    ...
    #100, Teacher, 7 pts, 71%
    ...
    #87, Johansson, 9 pts, 56%
    ...
    #80, Gomez, 10 pts, 50%
    #80, Costa 10 pts, 50%
    ...
    #74, Edmondson, 11 pts, 45%





    5, 3, 2, 1 are points for W, F, S, Q.

    It means Gaudio has never reached QF anywhere else in any of the slams, other than his slam winning run which brought him 5. He scored 5 pts in total, and all 5 pts come from his slam winning run, thus 100%.


    Here's the full list.

    https://jumpshare.com/s/hdU8w47KnuNi1cYkdYqt



    Ruud has 3 slam finals & 1 SF.

    I asked couple AIs and they're pretty useless at this.
    It's not quite yet the new AI era. Elon is posting some silly AI videos
    since apparently that's the best what Grok can do.

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2017793042061922330?s=20

    He's also planning to put up to a million data center satellites around
    the Earth orbit. That would help us to make many AI cat & girl videos, I guess.

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  • From TT@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 20:27:14
    TT kirjoitti 1.2.2026 klo 20.09:
    *skriptis kirjoitti 1.2.2026 klo 16.38:

    It's Zverev.


    I just checked MPOAT rank.



    Most deserved non-champions.


    #24, Zverev, 29 pts, 0%
    ...
    #32, Berdych, 25 pts, 0%
    ...
    #34, Ferrer, 24 pts, 0%
    ..
    #37, Roche, 23 pts, 0% (he won in amateurs)
    ...
    #39, Tsonga, 22 pts, 0%
    ...
    #49, Martin, 18 pts, 0%



    That's your pitiful group.





    We can do the other way around?
    Most undeserving champions?


    #133, Gaudio, 5 pts, 100%
    ...
    #100, Teacher, 7 pts, 71%
    ...
    #87, Johansson, 9 pts, 56%
    ...
    #80, Gomez, 10 pts, 50%
    #80, Costa 10 pts, 50%
    ...
    #74, Edmondson, 11 pts, 45%





    5, 3, 2, 1 are points for W, F, S, Q.

    It means Gaudio has never reached QF anywhere else in any of the
    slams, other than his slam winning run which brought him 5. He scored
    5 pts in total, and all 5 pts come from his slam winning run, thus 100%.


    Here's the full list.

    https://jumpshare.com/s/hdU8w47KnuNi1cYkdYqt



    Ruud has 3 slam finals & 1 SF.

    I asked couple AIs and they're pretty useless at this.
    It's not quite yet the new AI era. Elon is posting some silly AI videos since apparently that's the best what Grok can do.

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2017793042061922330?s=20


    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2017245267947667555?s=20

    He's also planning to put up to a million data center satellites around
    the Earth orbit. That would help us to make many AI cat & girl videos, I guess.


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  • From Whisper@3:633/10 to All on Monday, February 02, 2026 18:27:26
    On 2/02/2026 5:33 am, *skriptis wrote:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:
    Ruud has 3 slam finals & 1 SF



    Yeah but that's kinda everything he has.

    3 finals (3?3, 9 pts)
    1 semi (1?2, 2 pts)

    Total 11, he has those 4 slam runs, nothing else. His volume (or presence, which is what P in MPOAT stands for, is weak)

    #74 Ruud, 11 pts, 0%



    But yeah, if we go with strict measurements, most titles, finals, semis, quarters, he would be high.

    Here's a strict table for all multiple slam finalists.

    First two digits are finals, second two semis, last two quarters.


    Alexander Zverev 31016
    Tony Roche 30812
    Casper Ruud 30404
    Todd Martin 20610
    Stefanos Tsitsipas 20608
    C‚dric Pioline 20408
    Miloslav Me?¡? 20407
    ?lex Corretja 20306
    Kevin Curren 20304
    Robin S”derling 20206
    Mark Philippoussis 20205
    Kevin Anderson 20203
    Steve Denton 20202



    The rankings are perfectly ordered, first by success and if same, then chronologically.

    So if both have 6 pts, 5+1 is ahead of 3+3 guy.



    Roche won 1966 FO and r/up 1965 and 1967. In open era he was r/up at Wimbledon and twice at USO, losing to Laver twice and Rosewall once.
    His highest ranking was no.2. He won 46 singles titles. All up he made
    6 singles slam finals only won 1. Similar career to Medvedev? I'd
    exclude him from this list as he does have the FO, even though it's not
    in open era.

    Imo he's the best volleyer of all time. He made volleys look
    ridiculously easy, bit like Stan and his backhand.





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  • From Whisper@3:633/10 to All on Monday, February 02, 2026 18:55:20
    On 2/02/2026 6:38 pm, *skriptis wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:
    Roche won 1966 FO and r/up 1965 and 1967. In open era he was r/up at Wimbledon and twice at USO, losing to Laver twice and Rosewall once. His highest ranking was no.2. He won 46 singles titles. All up he made 6 singles slam finals only won 1. Similar career to Medvedev? I'd exclude him from this list as he does have the FO, even though it's not in open era.Imo he's the best volleyer of all time. He made volleys look ridiculously easy, bit like Stan and his backhand.



    I welcome your input, I said myself Roche is a slam champion prior to open era, I know that.

    However since this archive deals with open era, then it shows his (open era) record for what it is, similarly the way Laver is credited with 5 slam wins, Newcombe 5 too, even though their totals are 11 and 7...


    Yeah, I guess the only issue is the slam was held and he still won.
    Granted the pros were banned, but nobody forced them to turn pro? So
    really it's a self inflicted ban. Sure money is a great reason to turn
    pro, but it's still a choice. Some don't really count Novak making this
    AO final as Mensik withdrew and Musetti from 2-0 up. The way I see it
    none of that matters, people only care who turned up and who won end of
    the day.




    Checking these stats, they're fun, for all the prominence Berdych had, he really only made 1 slam final.

    Among the non champions who made just 1 final, he's the most successful/consistent one.

    So he's kinda a winner within a loser category?





    Who's the worst player to make multiple slam finals - Steve Denton?
    Pioline lost a lot of finals but surely was better than Denton?



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  • From Scall5@3:633/10 to All on Monday, February 02, 2026 18:57:25
    On 2/1/2026 10:01 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:
    Awesome data. I would call any of those guys "pitiful". They still achieved a hell of a lot on the tennis court.



    It's just rst slang. ;)


    Where is your compassion? One of those pros may read rst... ;)
    --
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    Scall5

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  • From Whisper@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, February 03, 2026 20:23:57
    On 3/02/2026 3:30 am, *skriptis wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:
    Who's the worst player to make multiple slam finals - Steve Denton? Pioline lost a lot of finals but surely was better than Denton?




    Multiple finals

    Alexander Zverev 31016
    Tony Roche 30812
    Casper Ruud 30404
    Todd Martin 20610
    Stefanos Tsitsipas 20608
    C‚dric Pioline 20408
    Miloslav Me?¡? 20407
    ?lex Corretja 20306
    Kevin Curren 20304
    Robin S”derling 20206
    Mark Philippoussis 20205
    Kevin Anderson 20203
    Steve Denton 20202



    One time finalists

    Tom ? Berdych 10717
    David Ferrer 10617
    Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 10615
    Tom Okker 10511
    David Nalbandian 10510
    Henri Leconte 10409
    Harold Solomon 10406
    Kei Nishikori 10312
    Milos Raonic 10310
    Alex Metreveli 10308
    Matteo Berrettini 10306
    Fernando Gonz lez 10207
    Taylor Fritz 10207
    Phil Dent 10205
    Brian Gottfried 10205
    Andrei Medvedev 10205
    Dick Crealy 10204
    Guillermo Coria 10204
    ?eljko Franulovi? 10203
    Patrick Proisy 10203
    Magnus Norman 10203
    Marcos Baghdatis 10203
    V¡ctor Pecci,Sr. 10202
    Rainer Schttler 10202
    Marcelo R¡os 10106
    Onny Parun 10105
    Kim Warwick 10104
    Nick Kyrgios 10104
    John Lloyd 10103
    John Sadri 10103
    Thomas Enqvist 10103
    Arnaud Cl‚ment 10103
    Nikola Pili? 10102
    Mikael Pernfors 10102
    Alberto Berasategui 10102
    MaliVai Washington 10102
    Greg Rusedski 10102
    Mal Anderson 10101
    John Marks 10101
    Chris Lewis 10101
    Martin Verkerk 10101
    Mariano Puerta 10101



    Multiple semifinalists

    Tim Henman 610
    Nikolay Davydenko 410
    S‚bastien Grosjean 409
    Tommy Haas 408
    Ra£l Ram¡rez 309
    Grigor Dimitrov 308
    John Alexander 305
    Richard Gasquet 305
    Cliff Richey 304
    Roger Taylor 304
    Tom Gorman 303
    Hank Pfister 303
    Ga‰l Monfils 210
    Tim Mayotte 209
    Eddie Dibbs 207
    Jonas Bj”rkman 207
    Mikhail Youzhny 206
    Karen Khachanov 206
    Clark Graebner 205
    Wayne Ferreira 205
    Frances Tiafoe 205
    Ben Shelton 205
    Ray Ruffels 204
    Dick Stockton 204
    Jos‚ Higueras 204
    Aaron Krickstein 204
    Pablo Carre¤o Busta 204
    Lorenzo Musetti 204
    F‚lix Auger-Aliassime 204
    Corrado Barazzutti 203
    Slobodan ?ivojinovi? 203
    Jonas Svensson 203
    Wally Masur 203
    Jos‚ Luis Clerc 202



    One time semifinalists

    Anders J„rryd 105
    Sjeng Schalken 105
    Nicolas Kiefer 105
    Diego Schwartzman 105
    Dennis Ralston 104
    Colin Dibley 104
    Peter McNamara 104
    Andrei Chesnokov 104
    Magnus Larsson 104
    Dominik Hrbat? 104
    Mario An?i? 104
    Fernando Verdasco 104
    Sam Querrey 104
    Tommy Paul 104
    Sandy Mayer 103
    Ross Case 103
    Bill Scanlon 103
    David Wheaton 103
    Karel Nov ?ek 103
    Karol Ku?era 103
    Nicolas Escud‚ 103
    John Isner 103
    Lucas Pouille 103
    Pancho Gonzales 102
    Bob Lutz 102
    Frank Froehling 102
    Fran‡ois Jauffret 102
    Bob Giltinan 102
    Pat DuPre 102
    Rod Frawley 102
    Paul McNamee 102
    Jimmy Arias 102
    Patrick McEnroe 102
    Alexander Volkov 102
    Marc Rosset 102
    Filip Dewulf 102
    F‚lix Mantilla 102
    Nicol s Lapentti 102
    Ivan Ljubi?i? 102
    Ernests Gulbis 102
    Roberto Bautista Agut 102
    Hubert Hurkacz 102
    Cameron Norrie 102
    Georges Goven 101
    Allan Stone 101
    Karl Meiler 101
    Victor Amaya 101
    Christophe Roger-Vasselin 101
    Ben Testerman 101
    Darren Cahill 101
    Jan Gunnarsson 101
    Mark Woodforde 101
    Jason Stoltenberg 101
    Todd Woodbridge 101
    Fernando Meligeni 101
    Franco Squillari 101
    Vladimir Voltchkov 101
    Ji?¡ Nov k 101
    Xavier Malisse 101
    Joachim Johansson 101
    Robby Ginepri 101
    Jrgen Melzer 101
    Jerzy Janowicz 101
    Kyle Edmund 101
    Chung Hyeon 101
    Marco Cecchinato 101
    Aslan Karatsev 101
    Dennis Shapovalov 101
    Jack Draper 101




    Multiple quarters

    Andrey Rublev 10
    Tommy Robredo 7
    Alex de Minaur 7
    Guy Forget 5
    Roy Emerson 4
    Fred Stolle 4
    Wojciech Fibak 4
    Vijay Amritraj 4
    Eliot Teltscher 4
    Gene Mayer 4
    Younes El Aynaoui 4
    Hicham Arazi 4
    Nicol s Almagro 4
    Feliciano L¢pez 4
    David Goffin 4
    Butch Buchholz 3
    Cliff Drysdale 3
    Hans Gildemeister 3
    Joakim Nystr”m 3
    Ramesh Krishnan 3
    Andrei Cherkasov 3
    Christian Bergstr”m 3
    Guillermo Ca¤as 3
    James Blake 3
    Jarkko Nieminen 3
    Juan Ignacio Chela 3
    Mardy Fish 3
    Holger Rune 3
    Marty Riessen 2
    John Cooper 2
    Bob Carmichael 2
    Raymond Moore 2
    Peter Rennert 2
    Bal zs Tar¢czy 2
    Tom ? ?m¡d 2
    Heinz Gnthardt 2
    Michiel Schapers 2
    Emilio S nchez 2
    Jay Berger 2
    Brad Gilbert 2
    Thierry Champion 2
    Goran Prpi? 2
    Jaime Yzaga 2
    Jacco Eltingh 2
    Bernd Karbacher 2
    Javier S nchez 2
    Byron Black 2
    Alexander Popp 2
    Florian Mayer 2
    Janko Tipsarevi? 2
    Gilles Simon 2
    Gilles Mller 2
    Tennys Sandgren 2
    Denis Shapovalov 2
    Ji?¡ Lehe?ka 2



    One time quarters

    Ion ?iriac 1
    Boro Jovanovi? 1
    Thomaz Koch 1
    William Bowrey 1
    Martin Mulligan 1
    Brian Fairlie 1
    Mark Cox 1
    Istv n Guly s 1
    Barry Phillips-Moore 1
    Frew McMillan 1
    Wanaro N'Godrella 1
    Paolo Bertolucci 1
    Jrgen Fassbender 1
    Vladim¡r Zedn¡k 1
    Hans-Jrgen Pohmann 1
    Patricio Cornejo 1
    Ismail El Shafei 1
    Geoff Masters 1
    John Andrews 1
    Andrew Pattison 1
    Jaime Fillol,Sr. 1
    Brad Drewett 1
    Charlie Pasarell 1
    Byron Bertram 1
    Billy Martin 1
    Robin Drysdale 1
    Butch Walts 1
    Paul Kronk 1
    Peter Feigl 1
    Tim Gullikson 1
    Peter Fleming 1
    Bruce Manson 1
    Shlomo Glickstein 1
    Tom Gullikson 1
    Rodney Harmon 1
    Drew Gitlin 1
    Sammy Giammalva,Jr. 1
    Mel Purcell 1
    Mark Dickson 1
    Henrik Sundstr”m 1
    Paul Annacone 1
    Scott Davis 1
    Mart¡n Jaite 1
    Ricardo Acu¤a 1
    Tim Wilkison 1
    Milan ?rejber 1
    Kelly Evernden 1
    Todd Witsken 1
    Guillermo P‚rez Rold n 1
    Patrik Khnen 1
    Derrick Rostagno 1
    Ronald Ag‚nor 1
    Alberto Mancini 1
    Dan Goldie 1
    Paul Chamberlin 1
    Brad Pearce 1
    Cristiano Caratti 1
    Franco Dav¡n 1
    Jakob Hlasek 1
    Paul Haarhuis 1
    Amos Mansdorf 1
    Nicklas Kulti 1
    Brett Steven 1
    Magnus Gustafsson 1
    Hendrik Dreekmann 1
    Adrian Voinea 1
    Renzo Furlan 1
    Shuzo Matsuoka 1
    Mikael Tillstr”m 1
    Alex R?dulescu 1
    Galo Blanco 1
    Jan Siemerink 1
    Davide Sanguinetti 1
    Vincent Spadea 1
    Marcelo Filippini 1
    Ctislav Dosed?l 1
    Chris Woodruff 1
    Jan-Michael Gambill 1
    Mariano Zabaleta 1
    Stefan Koubek 1
    Andrei Pavel 1
    Andr‚ S  1
    Max Mirnyi 1
    Victor H?nescu 1
    Fabrice Santoro 1
    Julien Benneteau 1
    Radek ?t?p nek 1
    Igor Andreev 1
    Ivo Karlovi? 1
    Lu Yen-hsun 1
    Alexandr Dolgopolov 1
    Fabio Fognini 1
    Bernard Tomic 1
    Philipp Kohlschreiber 1
    J‚r‚my Chardy 1
    ?ukasz Kubot 1
    Vasek Pospisil 1
    Albert Ramos-Vi¤olas 1
    Mischa Zverev 1
    John Millman 1
    Guido Pella 1
    Borna ?ori? 1
    Alejandro Davidovich Fokina 1
    M rton Fucsovics 1
    Lloyd Harris 1
    Botic van de Zandschulp 1
    Cristian Gar¡n 1
    Sebastian Korda 1
    Tom s Mart¡n Etcheverry 1
    Christoper Eubanks 1
    Roman Safiullin 1
    Lorenzo Sonego 1
    Alexander Bublik 1
    Flavio Cobolli 1
    Learner Tien 1




    Good work. Johan Kriek must be the worst multi slam winner in open era?

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  • From Scall5@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, February 03, 2026 20:51:26
    On 2/2/2026 8:09 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r
    On 2/1/2026 10:01 AM, *skriptis wrote:> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:>> Awesome data. I would call any of those guys "pitiful". They still achieved a hell of a lot on the tennis court.> > > > It's just rst slang. ;)> > Where is your compassion? One of those pros may read rst... ;)-- ---------------Scall5



    In the 1990s perhaps, nowadays I don't think so. ?

    I remember John Entwistle posting on The Who newsgroup, and some legends
    on NHRA's alt newsgroup. Nino on van-halen. It was pretty freaking cool,
    among the chaos.

    Ultimately, I really loved that it was an open platform, unlike the web.
    --
    ---------------
    Scall5

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  • From Whisper@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, February 04, 2026 22:44:57
    On 4/02/2026 1:28 am, *skriptis wrote:
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:
    Johan Kriek must be the worst multi slam winner in open era?


    One-time winners


    Daniil Medvedev 1060911
    Andy Roddick 1051019
    Michael Chang 1040813
    Goran Ivani?evi? 1040714
    Dominic Thiem 1040608
    Vitas Gerulaitis 1030811
    Marin ?ili? 1030614
    Michael Stich 1030610
    Juan Carlos Ferrero 1030609
    Pat Cash 1030509
    Juan Mart¡n del Potro 1020613
    Roscoe Tanner 1020611
    Manuel Orantes 1020409
    Andr‚s Gimeno 1020405
    Carlos Moy… 1020308
    Petr Korda 1020206
    Thomas Muster 1010409
    Richard Krajicek 1010409
    Adriano Panatta 1010306
    Mark Edmondson 1010305
    Yannick Noah 1010210
    Albert Costa 1010205
    Thomas Johansson 1010204
    Andr‚s G¢mez 1010106
    Brian Teacher 1010103
    Gast¢n Gaudio 1010101



    A bit surprised Edmondson is above some relatively illustrious names

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  • From jdeluise@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, February 04, 2026 23:09:15
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 2/2/2026 8:09 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r
    On 2/1/2026 10:01 AM, *skriptis wrote:> Scall5
    <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:>> Awesome data. I would
    call any of those guys "pitiful". They still achieved a hell
    of a lot on the tennis court.> > > > It's just rst slang. ;)>
    Where is your compassion? One of those pros may read rst...
    ;)-- ---------------Scall5
    In the 1990s perhaps, nowadays I don't think so. ?

    I remember John Entwistle posting on The Who newsgroup, and some
    legends on NHRA's alt newsgroup. Nino on van-halen. It was
    pretty
    freaking cool, among the chaos.

    How do you know it's them on usenet?

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  • From Sawfish@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, February 05, 2026 08:06:44
    On 2/5/26 12:09 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 2/2/2026 8:09 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r
    On 2/1/2026 10:01 AM, *skriptis wrote:> Scall5 <nospam@home.net>
    Wrote in message:>> Awesome data. I would call any of those guys
    "pitiful". They still achieved a hell of a lot on the tennis court.>
    It's just rst slang. ;)> > Where is your compassion? One of
    those pros may read rst... ;)-- ---------------Scall5
    In the 1990s perhaps, nowadays I don't think so. ?

    I remember John Entwistle posting on The Who newsgroup, and some
    legends on NHRA's alt newsgroup. Nino on van-halen. It was pretty
    freaking cool, among the chaos.

    How do you know it's them on usenet?

    It was another era, j.

    Of course you have a point, but there was a sort of innocent naive
    belief in not fucking people around just to pat yourself on the back. I
    think that there'd be a much better chance in the early/mid 90s that
    people were who they said there are.

    I feel pretty sure that you're on other forums. I've gotten increasingly disgusted at easily finding people who seem to actually *want* to screw
    others around without even any discernible advantage to themselves. They
    just basically want to deny any proposition on what seems to be solely personal spleen. They don't wish to make *any* point, they just want to
    scream "NOOOOO!".



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  • From Scall5@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, February 05, 2026 17:49:51
    On 2/5/2026 10:06 AM, Sawfish wrote:
    On 2/5/26 12:09 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 2/2/2026 8:09 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:r
    On 2/1/2026 10:01 AM, *skriptis wrote:> Scall5 <nospam@home.net>
    Wrote in message:>> Awesome data. I would call any of those guys
    "pitiful". They still achieved a hell of a lot on the tennis
    court.> > > > It's just rst slang. ;)> > Where is your compassion?
    One of those pros may read rst... ;)-- ---------------Scall5
    In the 1990s perhaps, nowadays I don't think so. ?

    I remember John Entwistle posting on The Who newsgroup, and some
    legends on NHRA's alt newsgroup. Nino on van-halen. It was pretty
    freaking cool, among the chaos.

    How do you know it's them on usenet?

    It was another era, j.

    Of course you have a point, but there was a sort of innocent naive
    belief in not fucking people around just to pat yourself on the back. I think that there'd be a much better chance in the early/mid 90s that
    people were who they said there are.

    I feel pretty sure that you're on other forums. I've gotten increasingly disgusted at easily finding people who seem to actually *want* to screw others around without even any discernible advantage to themselves. They just basically want to deny any proposition on what seems to be solely personal spleen. They don't wish to make *any* point, they just want to scream "NOOOOO!".

    You are mistaken, Sawfish. jd would *never* do that to me! ;)
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