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On 9/26/25 12:17 AM, *skriptis wrote:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 9/25/25 9:38 PM, *skriptis wrote:>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 9/25/25 7:44 PM, jdeluise
wrote:> Sawfish >>> <
sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> > >>>> The country is being >>> run by an unashamedly authoritarian masculine>> leadership >>> cadre. Maybe we'd have to go back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a >>> similarly forceful leader.>>>> WRT hands,
have you ever seen >>> Xi's?>>>> >>>
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-jinping>>>> >>> Napoleon complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's >>> masculine... presuming that includes chronic > indecisiveness, >>> emotional neediness, and
pathological vanity. The > whininess >>> alone is a disqualifier for me. But hey, you're entitled to > >>> your opinion!So..."The country is being run by an unashamedly >>> authoritarian masculineleadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>> back to
Andrew Jackson to seea similarly forceful >>> leader."sounded too much like praise, j?So you are saying >>> we're *not* being run by "an unashamedly authoritarian >>> masculine leadership cadre"?-- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open >>> the pod bay doors, >>> HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> I think this is a good read for you.>>
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-
214391/>> Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has established>> himself as a woman in our relationship to him, he talks but we >> like>> him not what he's saying but for what he is, and we don't >> really pay>> attention to what he's saying?>>
Maybe a Pelle, expert on genders could say a word here?>> >> Huh.>> I hadn't realized how masculine Ted Cruz and Dennis Kusinich > are. Boy,> oh boy, was I ever wrong about them!!! Bernie Sanders, too!!!>> Thanks so much, skript! I'm sure glad that
someone smart, like a > UC> professor, can definitively set us straight, huh?Makeup, hair transplants, girdles, shoulder pads... mmm, manly? Must be an Portland thing.> > > > > This is a funny topic but I for one do not dismiss this idea.> > I feel there'
s something in it.> > In a world that's has been thoroughly feminised, even a macho persona is tainted by the era in which he lives.> > He has to, sort of, evolve to maintain success.> > So he's not really "macho" per old textbook, but neither is our
world anymore.> > > > > It's basically like those genetic manipulation of different spices and animals. If science were to recreate mammoth, clone it, they'd probably have to use bits of elephant genome or whatever so it wouldn't be a true mammoth from
a bygone era, technically, but would be very very close to it.> > > This is it.> > Trump is masculine no doubt in his views, resolve, forceful projection etc so Sawfish is right, but he's wrapped it in feminine style, as you jdeluise note, make up, hair
transplants, words often, etc so somewhat and partially, it's kinda feminine, and I do believe it's what makes or made him more visible, palpatable and relatable than for example Ted Cruz who seemed dull?> > Not commenting on politics at all.> > > > > So
the really funny thing is we do treat him as a woman. We don't take him by his words. His fans don't care what he says, basically Trump's words are meaningless?> > He says so much and of course something has to contradict the other, but we don't care.> >
If you like him, you like him.> > So yeah, he's like a woman to us.> > > > > I think those are supportable and plausible points. I also think that we could examine historical leaders and maybe we'd see an evolution.My guess is that when alpha male
leaders quit having outrageously large harems is when it started.What say you?-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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There is no golden age really, in Mozart era men wore wigs and makeup and high heels. Is that masculine?
Perhaps the most masculine era was Victorian age, and we feel the residue of that, but that's not usual age at all.
It was perhaps the best, but it's hardly a historical norm.
Here's another thought. Why did Germans die for Fatherland and Russians for Motherland?
It's the same kinda, but also it is isn't.
Language is important.
So that's why I am open to analysis like these regarding Trump.
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