• GCHQ Monday Puzzle____ "Slush" -- (UK vs US English)

    From Unknown@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, April 09, 2026 16:39:50


    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> posted:

    Understandably GCHQ haven't published a Monday puzzle for a few weeks.
    Here is one from their Book I.

    36. Explain

    If 355 equates to 524, and 1235 to 2521, what does 850 equate to?



    Understandably GCHQ haven't published a Monday puzzle for a few weeks.

    ------------ Understandably ??? (I dn't understand it)



    __________________________SLUSH ------- (UK vs US English)

    Yes, **slush** has slightly different nuances in UK English. In Britain, the word most strongly refers to **dirty, muddy melting snow**?the grey, sludgy stuff you step in on wet winter pavements and roads. This gritty, unpleasant quality is more emphasized in British usage.

    In the US, "slush" is more commonly associated with **frozen sweet drinks** (like cherry slush slushies). While Brits understand this meaning, they're more likely to call it a "slushie" or specify the drink type. In the UK, plain "slush" more naturally brings to mind road snow rather than beverages.

    Both varieties share the meaning of "sloppily sentimental language or writing" (e.g., "That film was full of slush"). Both also use "slush fund" for secret money. The nautical meaning (waste fat from a ship's galley) exists in both but is rare now. The main difference is simply which image comes to mind first: muddy road snow in the UK, frozen drinks in the US.


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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 10, 2026 06:36:17
    Verily, in article <1775752790-4055@newsgrouper.org>, did
    HenHanna@NewsGrouper deliver unto us this message:
    Yes, **slush** has slightly different nuances in UK English. In Britain,
    the word most strongly refers to **dirty, muddy melting snow**?the
    grey, sludgy stuff you step in on wet winter pavements and roads. This gritty, unpleasant quality is more emphasized in British usage.

    In the US, "slush" is more commonly associated with **frozen sweet drinks** (like cherry slush slushies). While Brits understand this meaning,
    they're more likely to call it a "slushie" or specify the drink type.
    In the UK, plain "slush" more naturally brings to mind road snow
    rather than beverages.

    What's your source for this? I'm American, and I call that drink a
    slushie. "Slush" means the melting snow outside.

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  • From Peter Moylan@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 10, 2026 20:51:37
    On 10/04/26 20:36, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <1775752790-4055@newsgrouper.org>, did HenHanna@NewsGrouper deliver unto us this message:

    Yes, **slush** has slightly different nuances in UK English. In Britain,
    the word most strongly refers to **dirty, muddy melting snow**?the
    grey, sludgy stuff you step in on wet winter pavements and roads. This
    gritty, unpleasant quality is more emphasized in British usage.

    In the US, "slush" is more commonly associated with **frozen sweet drinks** >> (like cherry slush slushies). While Brits understand this meaning,
    they're more likely to call it a "slushie" or specify the drink type.
    In the UK, plain "slush" more naturally brings to mind road snow
    rather than beverages.

    What's your source for this? I'm American, and I call that drink a
    slushie. "Slush" means the melting snow outside.

    Since I've had little experience of snow, I associate "slush" with
    "slush funds".

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    Newcastle, NSW

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  • From Tony Cooper@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 10, 2026 09:50:04
    On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 06:36:17 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Verily, in article <1775752790-4055@newsgrouper.org>, did >HenHanna@NewsGrouper deliver unto us this message:
    Yes, **slush** has slightly different nuances in UK English. In Britain,
    the word most strongly refers to **dirty, muddy melting snow**?the
    grey, sludgy stuff you step in on wet winter pavements and roads. This
    gritty, unpleasant quality is more emphasized in British usage.

    In the US, "slush" is more commonly associated with **frozen sweet drinks** >> (like cherry slush slushies). While Brits understand this meaning,
    they're more likely to call it a "slushie" or specify the drink type.
    In the UK, plain "slush" more naturally brings to mind road snow
    rather than beverages.

    What's your source for this? I'm American, and I call that drink a
    slushie. "Slush" means the melting snow outside.

    The term for the frozen drink is "Slushie". "Slush" is, as you said,
    melting snow, but not on the road. It's in the gutters of the streets
    and what you have to wade through.

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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 10, 2026 10:51:04
    Verily, in article <iovhtkpah0uev84hhdju9s59mkfkoo3vah@4ax.com>, did tonycooper214@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

    On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 06:36:17 -0400, The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Verily, in article <1775752790-4055@newsgrouper.org>, did >HenHanna@NewsGrouper deliver unto us this message:
    Yes, **slush** has slightly different nuances in UK English. In Britain, >> the word most strongly refers to **dirty, muddy melting snow**?the
    grey, sludgy stuff you step in on wet winter pavements and roads. This
    gritty, unpleasant quality is more emphasized in British usage.

    In the US, "slush" is more commonly associated with **frozen sweet drinks**
    (like cherry slush slushies). While Brits understand this meaning,
    they're more likely to call it a "slushie" or specify the drink type.
    In the UK, plain "slush" more naturally brings to mind road snow
    rather than beverages.

    What's your source for this? I'm American, and I call that drink a >slushie. "Slush" means the melting snow outside.

    The term for the frozen drink is "Slushie". "Slush" is, as you said,
    melting snow, but not on the road. It's in the gutters of the streets
    and what you have to wade through.

    I would say there's slush on the road, though it wouldn't be there long
    if anyone were driving.

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  • From Rich Ulrich@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 10, 2026 11:45:33
    On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 10:51:04 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Verily, in article <iovhtkpah0uev84hhdju9s59mkfkoo3vah@4ax.com>, did >tonycooper214@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

    On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 06:36:17 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Verily, in article <1775752790-4055@newsgrouper.org>, did
    HenHanna@NewsGrouper deliver unto us this message:
    Yes, **slush** has slightly different nuances in UK English. In Britain, >> >> the word most strongly refers to **dirty, muddy melting snow**?the
    grey, sludgy stuff you step in on wet winter pavements and roads. This
    gritty, unpleasant quality is more emphasized in British usage.

    In the US, "slush" is more commonly associated with **frozen sweet drinks**
    (like cherry slush slushies). While Brits understand this meaning,
    they're more likely to call it a "slushie" or specify the drink type.
    In the UK, plain "slush" more naturally brings to mind road snow
    rather than beverages.

    What's your source for this? I'm American, and I call that drink a
    slushie. "Slush" means the melting snow outside.

    The term for the frozen drink is "Slushie". "Slush" is, as you said,
    melting snow, but not on the road. It's in the gutters of the streets
    and what you have to wade through.

    I would say there's slush on the road, though it wouldn't be there long
    if anyone were driving.

    That seems to say nothing at all about "sulsh fund" -- and, indeed,
    apparently slush fund is separate from snow or ice in any form.

    Henhatta's post included the claimed precedent, without clarification.
    From Wikipedia, slush_fund,
    "Slush fund" was originally a nautical term for the cash that a
    ship's crew raised by selling fat (slush) scraped from cooking pots
    to tallow makers. This cash was kept separate from the ship's
    accounts and used to make small purchases for the crew.

    Wikipedia cites OED and wordsmith.org (? no idea). The article
    has an interesting selection of examples - Nixon, Enron, pro hockey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slush_fund#Examples

    Some Google hits say "18th century" but Googlebooks ngrams
    show very low presence of "slush", at all, betore 1800, let alone
    "slush fund". The books cited for 1800-1920 start with 10
    citations after1900, none establishing the 'nautical' precedent.
    Maybe OED had a date for that.

    --
    Rich Ulrich




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  • From Tony Cooper@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 10, 2026 12:01:49
    On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 10:51:04 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Verily, in article <iovhtkpah0uev84hhdju9s59mkfkoo3vah@4ax.com>, did >tonycooper214@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

    On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 06:36:17 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Verily, in article <1775752790-4055@newsgrouper.org>, did
    HenHanna@NewsGrouper deliver unto us this message:
    Yes, **slush** has slightly different nuances in UK English. In Britain, >> >> the word most strongly refers to **dirty, muddy melting snow**?the
    grey, sludgy stuff you step in on wet winter pavements and roads. This
    gritty, unpleasant quality is more emphasized in British usage.

    In the US, "slush" is more commonly associated with **frozen sweet drinks**
    (like cherry slush slushies). While Brits understand this meaning,
    they're more likely to call it a "slushie" or specify the drink type.
    In the UK, plain "slush" more naturally brings to mind road snow
    rather than beverages.

    What's your source for this? I'm American, and I call that drink a
    slushie. "Slush" means the melting snow outside.

    The term for the frozen drink is "Slushie". "Slush" is, as you said,
    melting snow, but not on the road. It's in the gutters of the streets
    and what you have to wade through.

    I would say there's slush on the road, though it wouldn't be there long
    if anyone were driving.

    Having lived in Indiana and Illinois in the winter, I'm very familiar
    with slush. Streets are convex so rain water and melting snow water
    flows to the gutter. As the snow melts, the run-off is to the gutter,
    so the slush accumulates in the gutter. The street surface may be snow-covered, wet, or icy, but not slushy.

    Slush in the city wasn't pretty white snow remains; it was dirty gray.
    Back when men wore leather-soled shoes, if you went out when it snowed
    or when the snow was melting - and were too vain to wear boots or
    rubbers - the leather soles and your socks would become waterlogged
    and your feet would be cold and wet all day. Some days your trousers
    would be wet-to-the-knee.




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  • From Tony Cooper@3:633/10 to All on Friday, April 10, 2026 12:07:28
    On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 11:45:33 -0400, Rich Ulrich
    <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 10:51:04 -0400, The True Melissa ><thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Verily, in article <iovhtkpah0uev84hhdju9s59mkfkoo3vah@4ax.com>, did >>tonycooper214@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

    On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 06:36:17 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Verily, in article <1775752790-4055@newsgrouper.org>, did
    HenHanna@NewsGrouper deliver unto us this message:
    Yes, **slush** has slightly different nuances in UK English. In Britain, >>> >> the word most strongly refers to **dirty, muddy melting snow**?the
    grey, sludgy stuff you step in on wet winter pavements and roads. This >>> >> gritty, unpleasant quality is more emphasized in British usage.

    In the US, "slush" is more commonly associated with **frozen sweet drinks**
    (like cherry slush slushies). While Brits understand this meaning,
    they're more likely to call it a "slushie" or specify the drink type. >>> >> In the UK, plain "slush" more naturally brings to mind road snow
    rather than beverages.

    What's your source for this? I'm American, and I call that drink a
    slushie. "Slush" means the melting snow outside.

    The term for the frozen drink is "Slushie". "Slush" is, as you said,
    melting snow, but not on the road. It's in the gutters of the streets
    and what you have to wade through.

    I would say there's slush on the road, though it wouldn't be there long
    if anyone were driving.

    That seems to say nothing at all about "sulsh fund" -- and, indeed, >apparently slush fund is separate from snow or ice in any form.

    In my experience, a "slush fund" is an amount of money that has no
    declared purpose and can be used for unaccounted for expenses. It is
    often "off the books".

    While "petty cash" meets that description, a "slush fund" is usually a
    larger amount and held in an account rather than as cash.


    Henhatta's post

    You actually read and understand Hen's posts?


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  • From Phil Carmody@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, May 24, 2026 21:47:30
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:
    Verily, in article <1775752790-4055@newsgrouper.org>, did HenHanna@NewsGrouper deliver unto us this message:
    Yes, **slush** has slightly different nuances in UK English. In Britain,
    the word most strongly refers to **dirty, muddy melting snow**?the
    grey, sludgy stuff you step in on wet winter pavements and roads. This
    gritty, unpleasant quality is more emphasized in British usage.

    In the US, "slush" is more commonly associated with **frozen sweet drinks** >> (like cherry slush slushies). While Brits understand this meaning,
    they're more likely to call it a "slushie" or specify the drink type.
    In the UK, plain "slush" more naturally brings to mind road snow
    rather than beverages.

    What's your source for this? I'm American, and I call that drink a
    slushie. "Slush" means the melting snow outside.

    However, I'd say the brand that introduced the concept to the brits was
    almost certainly "Slush Puppie", so that concept is quite tightly
    coupled to that word.

    Phil
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  • From James Dow Allen@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, May 24, 2026 19:39:51

    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:
    Verily, in article <1775752790-4055@newsgrouper.org>, did HenHanna@NewsGrouper deliver unto us this message:
    Yes, **slush** has slightly different nuances in UK English....

    My favorite dictionary
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slush
    offers eight definitions, including synonym of slushie, without
    noting any dialectical qualifications. The 'slush' entry did NOT
    show the meaning I was looking for, which is found under
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slush_fund

    Etymology: May be a variant of sludge or imitative like slosh.
    Perhaps a confluence of both influences.

    'slush' also shows as Dutch, Finnish and French words, all borrowed from
    the English (though French also offers 'sloche' as alternate spelling).

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    James

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