• Jamie's Second Contest: Who wrote that historic document?

    From James Dow Allen@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, September 05, 2026 07:53:55


    Jamie's Second Contest: Who wrote that historic document?

    This is a one-round contest based on ten documents.
    It's longer and more difficult than most rounds, so I'll wait at least six days before answers and scores.
    If anything is confusing, post in the thread and I will attend to a correction or clarification ASAP.

    Despite the contest title you will only be asked for the author of 6 or 7 of the documents.
    You will be asked for the addressee of three letters among the documents.

    Most of the document excerpts have been translated into modern English.
    In a few cases identifying proper names have been replaced with '...' or '[]' or 'XXX' or 'YYY.'

    When asked for a person's name, the surname is usually sufficient.

    Three questions are asked about each document.
    Two points are awarded for each correct answer, or one point if almost correct. Thus a perfect score is 10*3*2 = 60, or 64 with correct answers on each of two bonus questions.

    For each document the third question relates to the YEAR of the document, or of the event it describes.
    You won't be asked for the year, but only to relate the event's date to the dates of the other
    nine events. Your answers will have the form "1st", "2nd, "3rd", etc. (or simply "1", "2", "3", ...)

    The ten events have a chronological order: "1st" -- denotes the earliest event; "2nd" the next in sequence, and so on with "10th" denoting the most recent of the ten events.
    Two points if you give the correct chronological rank; one point if off by only 1 or 2.

    Instead of entering these ranks in responses to questions #3, #6, #9, #12 etc. you may find it
    more convenient to rank them all right here:

    (R1) Enter the letter (A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, or J) of the documented event that was earliest in history.

    (R2) Enter the letter of the 2nd earliest documented event.

    (R3) Enter the letter of the 3rd earliest documented event.

    (R4) Enter the letter of the 4th earliest documented event.

    (R5) Enter the letter of the 5th earliest documented event.

    (R6) Enter the letter of the 6th earliest documented event.

    (R7) Enter the letter of the 7th earliest documented event.

    (R8) Enter the letter of the 8th earliest documented event.

    (R9) Enter the letter of the 9th earliest documented event.

    (R10) Enter the letter of the most recent documented event.

    If you answer #R1 ... #R10 here don't answer #3, #6, #9, #12, ... #30 below. And vice versa.


    OK? Ready or not, Here We go!
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (A) A letter from one Head of State to Another reads as:
    A copy of the statement I am making tonight concerning developments ... and the reaction of my Government
    thereto has been handed to your Ambassador ... In view of the gravity of the developments to which I refer,
    I want you to know immediately and accurately the position of my Government in this matter.

    In our discussions and exchanges on ... international questions, the one thing that has most concerned me
    has been the possibility that your Government would not correctly understand the will and determination of
    [my Government] in any given situation, since I have not assumed that you or any other sane man would,
    in this nuclear age, deliberately plunge the world into war which it is crystal clear no country could win
    and which could only result in catastrophic consequences to the whole world, including the aggressor.
    ...
    Despite this, the rapid development of long-range missile bases and other offensive weapons systems ... has
    proceeded. I must tell you that [my Government] is determined that this threat to the security of this
    hemisphere be removed. At the same time, I wish to point out that the action we are taking is the minimum
    necessary to remove the threat to the security of the nations of this hemisphere. The fact of this minimum
    response should not be taken as a basis, however, for any misjudgment on your part.

    (1) Who wrote the letter?

    (2) Who was the letter's intended recipient?

    (3) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (B) The chronicles of a certain explorer contain the excerpt:
    We charged the men who went ashore to ask what day it was. They were answered that
    to the Portuguese it was Thursday, at which they were much amazed, for to us it was
    Wednesday, and we knew not how we had fallen into error. For every day I, being always in health,
    had written down each day without any intermission.

    (4) Name the ship from which men were sent ashore.

    (4-Bonus) Which explorer authored this account?

    (5) What noteworthy explorer reported similarly on a lost day 58 years later?

    (6) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (C) A letter from a vassal to his overlord contains:
    Rib-Addi says to his lord, the King of Lands, the Great King, the King of Battle:
    May the Lady of Gubla grant power to the king, my lord. At the feet of my lord, my Sun,
    I fall down seven times and seven times. Be informed that ... all the 'Apiru have turned their
    face against me at the instigation of Abdi-Ashirta.

    Let my lord listen to the words of his servant, and let him send me a garrison to defend the
    city of the king, until the archers come out. And if there are no archers, then all the lands
    will unite with the 'Apiru. Listen, since the conquest of Bit-Arha in accordance with the
    demand of Abdi-Ashirta, they seek in the same way to unite Gubla and Batruna; and thus all lands
    would be united with the 'Apiru. Two cities remain with me, and they are also attempting to
    take them from the king's hand. Let my lord send a garrison to his two cities until the arrival
    of the archers, and give me something to feed them. I have nothing.

    Like a bird that lies in a net, a cage, so I am in Gubla. Furthermore, if the king is not able to
    rescue me from the hand of his enemy, then all lands will unite with Abdi-Ashirta.
    What is he, the dog, that he takes the king's lands for himself?

    (7) Using a better-known place-name than Gubla, wherefrom was the letter written?

    (8) To the King of which country was the letter addressed?

    (8-Bonus) Name the specific King.

    (9) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (D) Account of an explorer describing visits to two islands:
    I followed the coast of that isle toward the west and found it so extensive that I
    thought it might be the mainland ... and as I found no towns nor villages on >> the seacoast, except a few small settlements, where it was impossible to speak to the people because they
    fled at once, I continued the said route, thinking I could not fail to see some great cities or towns; and
    finding at the end of many leagues that nothing new appeared and that the coast led northward, contrary
    to my wish, because the winter had already set in, I decided to make for the south, and as the wind also
    was against my proceeding, I determined not to wait there longer and turned back to a certain harbor
    whence I sent two men to find out whether there was any king or large city. They explored for three days
    and found countless small communities and people, without number, but with no kind of government, so
    they returned.
    ... I saw another isle ... and went thither ... The nightingale and other small birds of a
    thousand kinds were singing in the month of November when I was there. There were palm trees of six or
    eight varieties, the graceful peculiarities of each one of them being worthy of admiration as are the other
    trees, fruits and grasses. There are wonderful pine woods, and very extensive ranges of meadow land.
    There is honey, and there are many kinds of birds, and a great variety of fruits. Inland there are numerous
    mines of metals and innumerable people.

    (10) Name the excerpt's writer.

    (11) Show EITHER the name the explorer first gave to the isle first mentioned above
    OR that isle's present-day name.

    (12) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (E) Excerpted from a history book:
    [Ananus] formed an accusation against [a certain prominent man] and some others as breakers of the law,
    [and] delivered them to be stoned: but as for those who seemed the most equitable of the citizens,
    and such as were the most uneasy at the breach of the laws, they disliked what was done;
    they also sent to the king, desiring him to send to Ananus that he should act so no more,
    for that what he had already done was not to be justified; nay, some of them went also to meet
    [the new Governor] ... and informed him that it was not lawful for Ananus
    to assemble a sanhedrim without his consent. Whereupon [the new Governor] complied with what they said,
    and wrote in anger to Ananus, and threatened that he would bring him to punishment for what he had done;
    on which King Agrippa took the high priesthood from [Ananus], when he had ruled but three months ...

    (13) Who wrote this account?

    (14) Who was the prominent man whose stoning is discussed in the excerpt?

    (15) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (F) A paraphrased report of a grant of land and noble title, with the grantee obligated ...
    ... to become a Christian and a vassal of [the King]. This latter provision caused some trouble,
    for the chronicler reports that the new vassal ... refused to bestow the required kiss upon
    his liege lord's foot.
    'Never,' said he, 'will I bend my knees before anyone, nor will I kiss the foot ...'
    Moved, however, by their prayers he ordered one of his warriors to kiss the king's foot.
    The latter promptly seized the king's foot, carried it to his mouth and kissed it standing,
    thus throwing the king onto his back. At that there was a roar of laughter and a great
    disturbance amongst the spectators.

    (16) What specific title was the new vassal granted?

    (17) Name EITHER the King allegedly thrown onto his back OR his new vassal.

    (18) Where does this humorous(?) event rank in time? (The ACTUAL event, not when this
    modern account was written) 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (G) A letter from one Head of State to Another reads as:
    My dear Brother, I would you knew (though not felt) the extreme dolor that overwhelms my mind,
    for that miserable accident which (far contrary to my meaning) hath befallen. I have now sent
    this kinsman of mine, whom ere now it hath pleased you to favor, to instruct you truly of that
    which is too irksome for my pen to tell you. I beseech you that as God and many more know,
    how innocent I am in this case : so you will believe me, that if I had bid aught I would have
    bid by it. I am not so base minded that fear of any living creature or Prince should make me
    so afraid to do that were just; or done, to deny the same. I am not of so base a lineage,
    nor carry so vile a mind. But, as not to disguise, fits not a King, so will I never dissemble
    my actions, but cause them show even as I meant them. Thus assuring yourself of me, that as I
    know this was deserved, yet if I had meant it I would never lay it on others' shoulders;
    no more will I not damnify myself that thought it not. The circumstance it may please you to have
    of this bearer. And for your part, think you have not in the world ... a more dear friend than myself;
    nor any that will watch more carefully to preserve you and your estate. And who shall otherwise
    persuade you, judge them more partial to others than you. And thus in haste I leave to trouble you :
    beseeching God to send you a long reign.

    (19) Who wrote the letter?

    (20) Who was the letter's intended recipient?

    (21) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (H) Excerpted from a long report on a foreign country:
    they compute the divisions of every season, not by the number of days, but of nights; they keep birthdays
    and the beginnings of months and years in such an order that the day follows the night.
    Among the other usages of their life, they differ in this from almost all other nations, that
    they do not permit their children to approach them openly until they are grown up so as to be able
    to bear the service of war; and they regard it as indecorous for a son of boyish age to stand in
    public in the presence of his father.

    Husbands have power of life and death over their wives as well as over their children: and when the
    father of a family, born in a more than commonly distinguished rank, has died, his relations assemble,
    and, if the circumstances of his death are suspicious, hold an investigation upon the wives in the
    manner adopted toward slaves; and, if proof be obtained, put them to severe torture, and kill them.
    Their funerals, considering the state of civilization among [them], are magnificent and costly;
    and they cast into the fire all things, including living creatures, which they suppose to have been dear
    to them when alive; and, a little before this period, slaves and dependents, who were ascertained to
    have been beloved by them, were, after the regular funeral rites were completed, burnt together with them.

    (22) Who wrote this report?

    (23) On which country was he reporting?

    (24) Where does this report rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (I) A deed of sale between two countries reads in part:
    And whereas XXX has an incontestible title to the domain and to the possession of the said Territory
    [and XXX] desiring to give to YYY a strong proof of his friendship doth hereby cede to YYY in the name
    of XXX for ever and in full Sovereignty the said territory with all its rights and appurtenances as
    fully and in the Same manner as they have been acquired by XXX in virtue of the above mentioned Treaty
    concluded with his Catholic Majesty.

    In the cession made by the preceeding article are included the adjacent Islands[,] all public lots
    and Squares, vacant lands and all public buildings, fortifications, barracks and other edifices which
    are not private property. The Archives, papers & documents relative to the domain and Sovereignty
    of [this territory] will be left in the possession of the Commissaries of YYY, and copies will be
    afterwards given in due form to the Magistrates and Municipal officers of such of the said papers
    and documents as may be necessary to them.

    The inhabitants of the ceded territory shall be incorporated in YYY and admitted as soon as
    possible ... to the enjoyment of all these rights, advantages and immunities of citizens of YYY,
    and in the mean time they shall be maintained and protected in the free enjoyment of their liberty,
    property and the Religion which they profess.

    (25) Name the then-Head of State of the country which sold the land.

    (25) Name the then-Head of State of the country which bought the land.

    (27) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (J) An early account of paper money:
    With these pieces of paper, made as I have described, he causes all payments on his own account
    to be made; and he makes them to pass current universally over all his kingdoms and provinces and
    territories, and whithersoever his power and sovereignty extends. And nobody, however important
    he may think himself, dares to refuse them on pain of death. And indeed everybody takes them readily,
    for wheresoever a person may go throughout the Emperor's dominions he shall find these pieces
    of paper current, and shall be able to transact all sales and purchases of goods by means of them
    just as well as if they were coins of pure gold. And all the while they are so light that
    ten bezants? worth does not weigh one golden bezant.

    Furthermore all merchants arriving from ... other countries, and bringing with them gold or silver
    or gems and pearls, are prohibited from selling to any one but the Emperor. He has twelve experts
    chosen for this business, men of shrewdness and experience in such affairs; these appraise the articles,
    and the Emperor then pays a liberal price for them in those pieces of paper. The merchants accept his
    price readily, for in the first place they would not get so good an one from anybody else,
    and secondly they are paid without any delay. And with this paper-money they can buy what they
    like anywhere over the Empire, whilst it is also vastly lighter to carry about on their journeys.
    And it is a truth that the merchants will several times in the year bring wares to the amount
    of 400,000 bezants, and the Grand Sire pays for all in that paper. So he buys such a quantity of
    those precious things every year that his treasure is endless, whilst all the time the money
    he pays away costs him nothing at all. Moreover, several times in the year proclamation is made
    through the city that any one who may have gold or silver or gems or pearls, by taking them
    to the Mint shall get a handsome price for them. And the owners are glad to do this, because they
    would find no other purchaser give so large a price. Thus the quantity they bring in is marvellous,
    though these who do not choose to do so may let it alone. Still, in this way, nearly all the
    valuables in the country come into the Emperor's possession.

    When any of those pieces of paper are spoilt -- not that they are so very flimsy neither -- the owner
    carries them to the Mint, and by paying three per cent. on the value he gets new pieces in exchange.
    And if any Baron, or any one else soever, hath need of gold or silver or gems or pearls, in order
    to make plate, or girdles, or the like, he goes to the Mint and buys as much as he likes,
    paying in this paper-money.

    (28) Who wrote this account?

    (29) Name the Emperor mentioned in the account.

    (30) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    Cheers,
    Jamie

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  • From Joshua Kreitzer@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, September 05, 2026 10:33:47
    On 9/5/2026 2:53 AM, James Dow Allen wrote:


    Jamie's Second Contest: Who wrote that historic document?

    (A) A letter from one Head of State to Another reads as:
    A copy of the statement I am making tonight concerning developments ... and the reaction of my Government
    thereto has been handed to your Ambassador ... In view of the gravity of the developments to which I refer,
    I want you to know immediately and accurately the position of my Government in this matter.

    In our discussions and exchanges on ... international questions, the one thing that has most concerned me
    has been the possibility that your Government would not correctly understand the will and determination of
    [my Government] in any given situation, since I have not assumed that you or any other sane man would,
    in this nuclear age, deliberately plunge the world into war which it is crystal clear no country could win
    and which could only result in catastrophic consequences to the whole world, including the aggressor.
    ...
    Despite this, the rapid development of long-range missile bases and other offensive weapons systems ... has
    proceeded. I must tell you that [my Government] is determined that this threat to the security of this
    hemisphere be removed. At the same time, I wish to point out that the action we are taking is the minimum
    necessary to remove the threat to the security of the nations of this hemisphere. The fact of this minimum
    response should not be taken as a basis, however, for any misjudgment on your part.

    (1) Who wrote the letter?

    John Kennedy

    (2) Who was the letter's intended recipient?

    Nikita Khrushchev

    (3) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    10th

    (B) The chronicles of a certain explorer contain the excerpt:
    We charged the men who went ashore to ask what day it was. They were answered that
    to the Portuguese it was Thursday, at which they were much amazed, for to us it was
    Wednesday, and we knew not how we had fallen into error. For every day I, being always in health,
    had written down each day without any intermission.

    (4-Bonus) Which explorer authored this account?

    Juan Sebastian de Elcano
    (C) A letter from a vassal to his overlord contains:
    Rib-Addi says to his lord, the King of Lands, the Great King, the King of Battle:
    May the Lady of Gubla grant power to the king, my lord. At the feet of my lord, my Sun,
    I fall down seven times and seven times. Be informed that ... all the 'Apiru have turned their
    face against me at the instigation of Abdi-Ashirta.

    Let my lord listen to the words of his servant, and let him send me a garrison to defend the
    city of the king, until the archers come out. And if there are no archers, then all the lands
    will unite with the 'Apiru. Listen, since the conquest of Bit-Arha in accordance with the
    demand of Abdi-Ashirta, they seek in the same way to unite Gubla and Batruna; and thus all lands
    would be united with the 'Apiru. Two cities remain with me, and they are also attempting to
    take them from the king's hand. Let my lord send a garrison to his two cities until the arrival
    of the archers, and give me something to feed them. I have nothing.

    Like a bird that lies in a net, a cage, so I am in Gubla. Furthermore, if the king is not able to
    rescue me from the hand of his enemy, then all lands will unite with Abdi-Ashirta.
    What is he, the dog, that he takes the king's lands for himself?

    (9) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    1st

    (I) A deed of sale between two countries reads in part:
    And whereas XXX has an incontestible title to the domain and to the possession of the said Territory
    [and XXX] desiring to give to YYY a strong proof of his friendship doth hereby cede to YYY in the name
    of XXX for ever and in full Sovereignty the said territory with all its rights and appurtenances as
    fully and in the Same manner as they have been acquired by XXX in virtue of the above mentioned Treaty
    concluded with his Catholic Majesty.

    In the cession made by the preceeding article are included the adjacent Islands[,] all public lots
    and Squares, vacant lands and all public buildings, fortifications, barracks and other edifices which
    are not private property. The Archives, papers & documents relative to the domain and Sovereignty
    of [this territory] will be left in the possession of the Commissaries of YYY, and copies will be
    afterwards given in due form to the Magistrates and Municipal officers of such of the said papers
    and documents as may be necessary to them.

    The inhabitants of the ceded territory shall be incorporated in YYY and admitted as soon as
    possible ... to the enjoyment of all these rights, advantages and immunities of citizens of YYY,
    and in the mean time they shall be maintained and protected in the free enjoyment of their liberty,
    property and the Religion which they profess.

    (25) Name the then-Head of State of the country which sold the land.

    Napoleon I
    (25) Name the then-Head of State of the country which bought the land.

    Thomas Jefferson

    (J) An early account of paper money:
    With these pieces of paper, made as I have described, he causes all payments on his own account
    to be made; and he makes them to pass current universally over all his kingdoms and provinces and
    territories, and whithersoever his power and sovereignty extends. And nobody, however important
    he may think himself, dares to refuse them on pain of death. And indeed everybody takes them readily,
    for wheresoever a person may go throughout the Emperor's dominions he shall find these pieces
    of paper current, and shall be able to transact all sales and purchases of goods by means of them
    just as well as if they were coins of pure gold. And all the while they are so light that
    ten bezants? worth does not weigh one golden bezant.

    Furthermore all merchants arriving from ... other countries, and bringing with them gold or silver
    or gems and pearls, are prohibited from selling to any one but the Emperor. He has twelve experts
    chosen for this business, men of shrewdness and experience in such affairs; these appraise the articles,
    and the Emperor then pays a liberal price for them in those pieces of paper. The merchants accept his
    price readily, for in the first place they would not get so good an one from anybody else,
    and secondly they are paid without any delay. And with this paper-money they can buy what they
    like anywhere over the Empire, whilst it is also vastly lighter to carry about on their journeys.
    And it is a truth that the merchants will several times in the year bring wares to the amount
    of 400,000 bezants, and the Grand Sire pays for all in that paper. So he buys such a quantity of
    those precious things every year that his treasure is endless, whilst all the time the money
    he pays away costs him nothing at all. Moreover, several times in the year proclamation is made
    through the city that any one who may have gold or silver or gems or pearls, by taking them
    to the Mint shall get a handsome price for them. And the owners are glad to do this, because they
    would find no other purchaser give so large a price. Thus the quantity they bring in is marvellous,
    though these who do not choose to do so may let it alone. Still, in this way, nearly all the
    valuables in the country come into the Emperor's possession.

    When any of those pieces of paper are spoilt -- not that they are so very flimsy neither -- the owner
    carries them to the Mint, and by paying three per cent. on the value he gets new pieces in exchange.
    And if any Baron, or any one else soever, hath need of gold or silver or gems or pearls, in order
    to make plate, or girdles, or the like, he goes to the Mint and buys as much as he likes,
    paying in this paper-money.

    (28) Who wrote this account?

    Marco Polo
    (29) Name the Emperor mentioned in the account.

    Kublai Khan

    --
    Joshua Kreitzer
    gromit82@hotmail.com

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  • From Dan Tilque@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, September 05, 2026 16:29:51
    On 9/5/26 00:53, James Dow Allen wrote:


    Jamie's Second Contest: Who wrote that historic document?

    This is a one-round contest based on ten documents.
    It's longer and more difficult than most rounds, so I'll wait at least six days before answers and scores.
    If anything is confusing, post in the thread and I will attend to a correction or clarification ASAP.

    Despite the contest title you will only be asked for the author of 6 or 7 of the documents.
    You will be asked for the addressee of three letters among the documents.

    Most of the document excerpts have been translated into modern English.
    In a few cases identifying proper names have been replaced with '...' or '[]' or 'XXX' or 'YYY.'

    When asked for a person's name, the surname is usually sufficient.

    Three questions are asked about each document.
    Two points are awarded for each correct answer, or one point if almost correct.
    Thus a perfect score is 10*3*2 = 60, or 64 with correct answers on each of two bonus questions.

    For each document the third question relates to the YEAR of the document, or of the event it describes.
    You won't be asked for the year, but only to relate the event's date to the dates of the other
    nine events. Your answers will have the form "1st", "2nd, "3rd", etc. (or simply "1", "2", "3", ...)

    The ten events have a chronological order: "1st" -- denotes the earliest event;
    "2nd" the next in sequence, and so on with "10th" denoting the most recent of the ten events.
    Two points if you give the correct chronological rank; one point if off by only 1 or 2.

    Instead of entering these ranks in responses to questions #3, #6, #9, #12 etc. you may find it
    more convenient to rank them all right here:

    (R1) Enter the letter (A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, or J) of the documented event that was earliest in history.

    C


    (R2) Enter the letter of the 2nd earliest documented event.

    H


    (R3) Enter the letter of the 3rd earliest documented event.

    E


    (R4) Enter the letter of the 4th earliest documented event.

    F


    (R5) Enter the letter of the 5th earliest documented event.

    J


    (R6) Enter the letter of the 6th earliest documented event.

    D


    (R7) Enter the letter of the 7th earliest documented event.

    B


    (R8) Enter the letter of the 8th earliest documented event.

    G


    (R9) Enter the letter of the 9th earliest documented event.

    I


    (R10) Enter the letter of the most recent documented event.

    A


    If you answer #R1 ... #R10 here don't answer #3, #6, #9, #12, ... #30 below. And vice versa.


    OK? Ready or not, Here We go!
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    (A) A letter from one Head of State to Another reads as:
    A copy of the statement I am making tonight concerning developments ... and the reaction of my Government
    thereto has been handed to your Ambassador ... In view of the gravity of the developments to which I refer,
    I want you to know immediately and accurately the position of my Government in this matter.

    In our discussions and exchanges on ... international questions, the one thing that has most concerned me
    has been the possibility that your Government would not correctly understand the will and determination of
    [my Government] in any given situation, since I have not assumed that you or any other sane man would,
    in this nuclear age, deliberately plunge the world into war which it is crystal clear no country could win
    and which could only result in catastrophic consequences to the whole world, including the aggressor.
    ...
    Despite this, the rapid development of long-range missile bases and other offensive weapons systems ... has
    proceeded. I must tell you that [my Government] is determined that this threat to the security of this
    hemisphere be removed. At the same time, I wish to point out that the action we are taking is the minimum
    necessary to remove the threat to the security of the nations of this hemisphere. The fact of this minimum
    response should not be taken as a basis, however, for any misjudgment on your part.

    (1) Who wrote the letter?

    John F Kennedy


    (2) Who was the letter's intended recipient?

    Khrushchev


    (3) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (B) The chronicles of a certain explorer contain the excerpt:
    We charged the men who went ashore to ask what day it was. They were answered that
    to the Portuguese it was Thursday, at which they were much amazed, for to us it was
    Wednesday, and we knew not how we had fallen into error. For every day I, being always in health,
    had written down each day without any intermission.

    (4) Name the ship from which men were sent ashore.

    Victoria


    (4-Bonus) Which explorer authored this account?

    Whoever succeeded Magellan after he died. Can't remember his name.


    (5) What noteworthy explorer reported similarly on a lost day 58 years later?

    Sir Francis Drake


    (6) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (C) A letter from a vassal to his overlord contains:
    Rib-Addi says to his lord, the King of Lands, the Great King, the King of Battle:
    May the Lady of Gubla grant power to the king, my lord. At the feet of my lord, my Sun,
    I fall down seven times and seven times. Be informed that ... all the 'Apiru have turned their
    face against me at the instigation of Abdi-Ashirta.

    Let my lord listen to the words of his servant, and let him send me a garrison to defend the
    city of the king, until the archers come out. And if there are no archers, then all the lands
    will unite with the 'Apiru. Listen, since the conquest of Bit-Arha in accordance with the
    demand of Abdi-Ashirta, they seek in the same way to unite Gubla and Batruna; and thus all lands
    would be united with the 'Apiru. Two cities remain with me, and they are also attempting to
    take them from the king's hand. Let my lord send a garrison to his two cities until the arrival
    of the archers, and give me something to feed them. I have nothing.

    Like a bird that lies in a net, a cage, so I am in Gubla. Furthermore, if the king is not able to
    rescue me from the hand of his enemy, then all lands will unite with Abdi-Ashirta.
    What is he, the dog, that he takes the king's lands for himself?

    (7) Using a better-known place-name than Gubla, wherefrom was the letter written?

    Jerusalem


    (8) To the King of which country was the letter addressed?

    Babylon


    (8-Bonus) Name the specific King.

    (9) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (D) Account of an explorer describing visits to two islands:
    I followed the coast of that isle toward the west and found it so extensive that I
    thought it might be the mainland ... and as I found no towns nor villages on
    the seacoast, except a few small settlements, where it was impossible to speak to the people because they
    fled at once, I continued the said route, thinking I could not fail to see some great cities or towns; and
    finding at the end of many leagues that nothing new appeared and that the coast led northward, contrary
    to my wish, because the winter had already set in, I decided to make for the south, and as the wind also
    was against my proceeding, I determined not to wait there longer and turned back to a certain harbor
    whence I sent two men to find out whether there was any king or large city. They explored for three days
    and found countless small communities and people, without number, but with no kind of government, so
    they returned.
    ... I saw another isle ... and went thither ... The nightingale and other small birds of a
    thousand kinds were singing in the month of November when I was there. There were palm trees of six or
    eight varieties, the graceful peculiarities of each one of them being worthy of admiration as are the other
    trees, fruits and grasses. There are wonderful pine woods, and very extensive ranges of meadow land.
    There is honey, and there are many kinds of birds, and a great variety of fruits. Inland there are numerous
    mines of metals and innumerable people.

    (10) Name the excerpt's writer.

    Columbus


    (11) Show EITHER the name the explorer first gave to the isle first mentioned above
    OR that isle's present-day name.

    San Salvador


    (12) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (E) Excerpted from a history book:
    [Ananus] formed an accusation against [a certain prominent man] and some others as breakers of the law,
    [and] delivered them to be stoned: but as for those who seemed the most equitable of the citizens,
    and such as were the most uneasy at the breach of the laws, they disliked what was done;
    they also sent to the king, desiring him to send to Ananus that he should act so no more,
    for that what he had already done was not to be justified; nay, some of them went also to meet
    [the new Governor] ... and informed him that it was not lawful for Ananus >>> to assemble a sanhedrim without his consent. Whereupon [the new Governor] complied with what they said,
    and wrote in anger to Ananus, and threatened that he would bring him to punishment for what he had done;
    on which King Agrippa took the high priesthood from [Ananus], when he had ruled but three months ...

    (13) Who wrote this account?

    (14) Who was the prominent man whose stoning is discussed in the excerpt?

    (15) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (F) A paraphrased report of a grant of land and noble title, with the grantee obligated ...
    ... to become a Christian and a vassal of [the King]. This latter provision caused some trouble,
    for the chronicler reports that the new vassal ... refused to bestow the required kiss upon
    his liege lord's foot.
    'Never,' said he, 'will I bend my knees before anyone, nor will I kiss the foot ...'
    Moved, however, by their prayers he ordered one of his warriors to kiss the king's foot.
    The latter promptly seized the king's foot, carried it to his mouth and kissed it standing,
    thus throwing the king onto his back. At that there was a roar of laughter and a great
    disturbance amongst the spectators.

    (16) What specific title was the new vassal granted?

    Duke of Normandy


    (17) Name EITHER the King allegedly thrown onto his back OR his new vassal.

    (18) Where does this humorous(?) event rank in time? (The ACTUAL event, not when this
    modern account was written) 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (G) A letter from one Head of State to Another reads as:
    My dear Brother, I would you knew (though not felt) the extreme dolor that overwhelms my mind,
    for that miserable accident which (far contrary to my meaning) hath befallen. I have now sent
    this kinsman of mine, whom ere now it hath pleased you to favor, to instruct you truly of that
    which is too irksome for my pen to tell you. I beseech you that as God and many more know,
    how innocent I am in this case : so you will believe me, that if I had bid aught I would have
    bid by it. I am not so base minded that fear of any living creature or Prince should make me
    so afraid to do that were just; or done, to deny the same. I am not of so base a lineage,
    nor carry so vile a mind. But, as not to disguise, fits not a King, so will I never dissemble
    my actions, but cause them show even as I meant them. Thus assuring yourself of me, that as I
    know this was deserved, yet if I had meant it I would never lay it on others' shoulders;
    no more will I not damnify myself that thought it not. The circumstance it may please you to have
    of this bearer. And for your part, think you have not in the world ... a more dear friend than myself;
    nor any that will watch more carefully to preserve you and your estate. And who shall otherwise
    persuade you, judge them more partial to others than you. And thus in haste I leave to trouble you :
    beseeching God to send you a long reign.

    (19) Who wrote the letter?

    (20) Who was the letter's intended recipient?

    (21) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (H) Excerpted from a long report on a foreign country:
    they compute the divisions of every season, not by the number of days, but of nights; they keep birthdays
    and the beginnings of months and years in such an order that the day follows the night.
    Among the other usages of their life, they differ in this from almost all other nations, that
    they do not permit their children to approach them openly until they are grown up so as to be able
    to bear the service of war; and they regard it as indecorous for a son of boyish age to stand in
    public in the presence of his father.

    Husbands have power of life and death over their wives as well as over their children: and when the
    father of a family, born in a more than commonly distinguished rank, has died, his relations assemble,
    and, if the circumstances of his death are suspicious, hold an investigation upon the wives in the
    manner adopted toward slaves; and, if proof be obtained, put them to severe torture, and kill them.
    Their funerals, considering the state of civilization among [them], are magnificent and costly;
    and they cast into the fire all things, including living creatures, which they suppose to have been dear
    to them when alive; and, a little before this period, slaves and dependents, who were ascertained to
    have been beloved by them, were, after the regular funeral rites were completed, burnt together with them.

    (22) Who wrote this report?

    (23) On which country was he reporting?

    Sparta


    (24) Where does this report rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (I) A deed of sale between two countries reads in part:
    And whereas XXX has an incontestible title to the domain and to the possession of the said Territory
    [and XXX] desiring to give to YYY a strong proof of his friendship doth hereby cede to YYY in the name
    of XXX for ever and in full Sovereignty the said territory with all its rights and appurtenances as
    fully and in the Same manner as they have been acquired by XXX in virtue of the above mentioned Treaty
    concluded with his Catholic Majesty.

    In the cession made by the preceeding article are included the adjacent Islands[,] all public lots
    and Squares, vacant lands and all public buildings, fortifications, barracks and other edifices which
    are not private property. The Archives, papers & documents relative to the domain and Sovereignty
    of [this territory] will be left in the possession of the Commissaries of YYY, and copies will be
    afterwards given in due form to the Magistrates and Municipal officers of such of the said papers
    and documents as may be necessary to them.

    The inhabitants of the ceded territory shall be incorporated in YYY and admitted as soon as
    possible ... to the enjoyment of all these rights, advantages and immunities of citizens of YYY,
    and in the mean time they shall be maintained and protected in the free enjoyment of their liberty,
    property and the Religion which they profess.

    (25) Name the then-Head of State of the country which sold the land.

    Napoleon


    (25) Name the then-Head of State of the country which bought the land.

    Thomas Jefferson


    (27) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (J) An early account of paper money:
    With these pieces of paper, made as I have described, he causes all payments on his own account
    to be made; and he makes them to pass current universally over all his kingdoms and provinces and
    territories, and whithersoever his power and sovereignty extends. And nobody, however important
    he may think himself, dares to refuse them on pain of death. And indeed everybody takes them readily,
    for wheresoever a person may go throughout the Emperor's dominions he shall find these pieces
    of paper current, and shall be able to transact all sales and purchases of goods by means of them
    just as well as if they were coins of pure gold. And all the while they are so light that
    ten bezants? worth does not weigh one golden bezant.

    Furthermore all merchants arriving from ... other countries, and bringing with them gold or silver
    or gems and pearls, are prohibited from selling to any one but the Emperor. He has twelve experts
    chosen for this business, men of shrewdness and experience in such affairs; these appraise the articles,
    and the Emperor then pays a liberal price for them in those pieces of paper. The merchants accept his
    price readily, for in the first place they would not get so good an one from anybody else,
    and secondly they are paid without any delay. And with this paper-money they can buy what they
    like anywhere over the Empire, whilst it is also vastly lighter to carry about on their journeys.
    And it is a truth that the merchants will several times in the year bring wares to the amount
    of 400,000 bezants, and the Grand Sire pays for all in that paper. So he buys such a quantity of
    those precious things every year that his treasure is endless, whilst all the time the money
    he pays away costs him nothing at all. Moreover, several times in the year proclamation is made
    through the city that any one who may have gold or silver or gems or pearls, by taking them
    to the Mint shall get a handsome price for them. And the owners are glad to do this, because they
    would find no other purchaser give so large a price. Thus the quantity they bring in is marvellous,
    though these who do not choose to do so may let it alone. Still, in this way, nearly all the
    valuables in the country come into the Emperor's possession.

    When any of those pieces of paper are spoilt -- not that they are so very flimsy neither -- the owner
    carries them to the Mint, and by paying three per cent. on the value he gets new pieces in exchange.
    And if any Baron, or any one else soever, hath need of gold or silver or gems or pearls, in order
    to make plate, or girdles, or the like, he goes to the Mint and buys as much as he likes,
    paying in this paper-money.

    (28) Who wrote this account?

    Marco Polo


    (29) Name the Emperor mentioned in the account.

    Kublai Khan


    (30) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most recent) or somewhere in between?



    --
    Dan Tilque

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  • From Mark Brader@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, September 06, 2026 04:19:21
    James Dow Allen:

    Jamie's Second Contest: Who wrote that historic document?

    If you must post long paragraphs or passages, please keep your line lengths under 80 characters.

    Instead of entering these ranks in responses to questions #3, #6, #9, #12 etc. you may find it
    more convenient to rank them all right here:

    From earliest to latest: E, C, J, D, B, F, H, G, I, A.

    (1) Who wrote the letter?

    Kennedy.

    (2) Who was the letter's intended recipient?

    Khrushchev.

    (4) Name the ship from which men were sent ashore.

    Victoria.

    (4-Bonus) Which explorer authored this account?

    Magellan.

    (5) What noteworthy explorer reported similarly on a lost day 58 years later?

    Drake.

    (10) Name the excerpt's writer.

    Columbus.

    (11) Show EITHER the name the explorer first gave to the isle first mentioned above
    OR that isle's present-day name.

    Hispaniola.

    (25) Name the then-Head of State of the country which bought the land.

    Wilson.

    (28) Who wrote this account?

    Marco Polo?

    (29) Name the Emperor mentioned in the account.

    Kublai Khan.

    --
    Mark Brader | "My mind is like a steel trap; it snaps closed
    Toronto | and is almost impossible to pry open"
    msb@vex.net | --Michael Wares

    My text in this article is in the public domain.

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  • From Erland Sommarskog@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, September 06, 2026 15:15:58
    James Dow Allen (user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid) writes:
    (1) Who wrote the letter?

    John F Kennedy

    (2) Who was the letter's intended recipient?

    Nikita Chrushcev

    (3) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most >
    recent) or somewhere in between?

    10th

    (4-Bonus) Which explorer authored this account?

    Magellan

    (5) What noteworthy explorer reported similarly on a lost day 58 years
    later?

    Columbus

    (6) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most
    recent) or somewhere in between?

    6th

    (9) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most
    recent) or somewhere in between?

    2th

    (10) Name the excerpt's writer.

    George Vancouver

    (11) Show EITHER the name the explorer first gave to the isle first
    mentioned above OR that isle's present-day name.

    Vancouver Island

    (12) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most
    recent) or somewhere in between?

    7th

    (13) Who wrote this account?

    Homeros

    (15) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most
    recent) or somewhere in between?

    1st

    (16) What specific title was the new vassal granted?

    Duke of Normandy

    (17) Name EITHER the King allegedly thrown onto his back OR his new
    vassal.

    Roland


    (18) Where does this humorous(?) event rank in time? (The ACTUAL event,
    not when this modern account was written) 1st (earliest), 10th (most
    recent) or somewhere in between?

    3rd


    (21) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most
    recent) or somewhere in between?

    8th

    (22) Who wrote this report?

    Cortez

    (23) On which country was he reporting?

    Aztec empire

    (24) Where does this report rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most
    recent) or somewhere in between?


    5th

    (25) Name the then-Head of State of the country which sold the land.

    Napoleon

    (25) Name the then-Head of State of the country which bought the land.

    John Adams

    (27) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most
    recent) or somewhere in between?

    9th

    (28) Who wrote this account?

    Marco Polo


    (29) Name the Emperor mentioned in the account.


    Kubilah Khan

    (30) Where does this event rank in time? 1st (earliest), 10th (most
    recent) or somewhere in between?

    4th

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  • From James Dow Allen@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, September 10, 2026 17:23:02
    Subject: Re: Jamie's Second Contest: - ANSWERS - Who wrote that historic document?


    James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
    Jamie's Second Contest: Who wrote that historic document?

    Mark wrote
    ... please keep in lengths under 80 characters.

    Thanks! Will do. I didn't remember what the standard was,
    ... Despite that as an oldtimer Max=80 should have been engraved in my brain.


    (R1-10) Enter the letters (A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, or J) of the events
    in chronological order.

    C, H, E, F, J, D, B, G, I, A
    20 points for Dan_T (perfect score!)
    12 points for Mark (2 for A,G,I; 0 for H; 1 for others)
    12 points for Erland (2 for A,G,I; 0 for H; 1 for others)
    4 points for Joshua (A & C)
    6 points for Joshua (see below)

    If tiebreaker be needed, Erland gets it. He was off-by-2 only once; Mark 5x

    I should have stressed that there is no penalty for wrong answers.
    Joshua could have simply written "5th" for the eight ranks he didn't
    answer and gotten 6 more points. I've given him those points.



    OK? Ready or not, Here We go!
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (A) A letter from one Head of State to Another reads as:
    A copy of the statement I am making tonight concerning developments ... >> thereto has been handed to your Ambassador ... In view of the gravity ... >> I want you to know immediately and accurately the position of my ...

    In our discussions and exchanges on ... international questions, ...
    has been the possibility that your Government would not correctly ...
    [my Government] in any given situation, since I have not assumed ...
    in this nuclear age, deliberately plunge the world into war which ...
    and which could only result in catastrophic consequences to the ...
    ...
    Despite this, the rapid development of long-range missile bases ...
    proceeded. I must tell you that [my Government] is determined that ...
    hemisphere be removed. At the same time, I wish to point out that ...
    necessary to remove the threat to the security of the nations of this ... >> response should not be taken as a basis, however, for any misjudgment ...

    (1) Who wrote the letter?

    John F. Kennedy

    2 points for Joshua, Dan_T, Mark, Erland


    (2) Who was the letter's intended recipient?

    Nikita Krushchev

    2 points for Joshua, Dan_T, Mark, Erlamd



    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (B) The chronicles of a certain explorer contain the excerpt:
    We charged the men who went ashore to ask what day it was. They were
    answered that to the Portuguese it was Thursday, at which they were much >> amazed, for to us it was Wednesday, and we knew not how we had [erred]...

    (4) Name the ship from which men were sent ashore.

    Victoria
    2 points for Dan_T, Mark


    (4-Bonus) Which explorer authored this account?
    [The commander of Victoria did NOT write the Chronicle from which the excerpt is taken, but a point is deserved for remembering that name.
    Sorry - no point for forgetting the surname of the wrong answer!
    Both Wikipedia and the chat overlords DO call Pigafetta an "explorer."]

    Antonio Pigafetta
    1 point for Joshua


    (5) What noteworthy explorer reported similarly on a lost day 58 years later?

    Sir Francis Drake

    2 points for Dan_T, Mark


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (C) A letter from a vassal to his overlord contains:
    Rib-Addi says to his lord, the King of Lands, the Great King, the King ... >> May the Lady of Gubla grant power to the king, my lord. At the feet of
    my lord, my Sun, I fall down seven times and seven times. Be informed that >> that all the 'Apiru have turned their face against me at the inst of
    of Abdi-Ashirta.

    Let my lord listen to the words of his servant, and ... send me a garrison >> to defend the city of the king, until the archers come ... if there are
    no archers, then all the lands will unite with the 'Apiru. ...

    (7) Using a better-known place-name than Gubla, wherefrom [] letter written?

    Phoenicia or Canaan or Lebanon


    (8) To the King of which country was the letter addressed?

    Egypt


    (8-Bonus) Name the specific King.

    Amenhotep IV aka Akhenaten


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (D) Account of an explorer describing visits to two islands:
    I followed the coast of that isle toward the west and found it so extensive
    that I thought it might be the mainland ... and as I found no towns nor
    villages on the seacoast, except a few small settlements, where it was ... >> fled at once, I continued the said route, thinking I could not fail to ... >> finding at the end of many leagues that nothing new appeared and that the >> coast led northward, contrary to my wish, because the winter had already >> set in, I decided to make for the south, and as the wind also ...

    (10) Name the excerpt's writer.

    Christopher Columbus

    2 points for Dan_T, Mark


    (11) Show EITHER the name the explorer first gave to the isle first mentioned above OR that isle's present-day name.

    Juana or Cuba (1 point for isles almost correct)

    1 point for Dan_T, Mark

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (E) Excerpted from a history book:
    [Ananus] formed an accusation against [a certain prominent man] and some >> others as breakers of the law, [and] delivered them to be stoned: but ... >> those who seemed the most equitable of the citizens, and such as were ... >> uneasy at the breach of the laws, they disliked what was done; they ...
    to the king, desiring him to send to Ananus that he should act so no more, >> for that what he had already done was not to be justified; nay, some ...

    (13) Who wrote this account?

    Flavius Josephus


    (14) Who was the prominent man whose stoning is discussed in the excerpt?

    "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James [the Just]"


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (F) A paraphrased report of a grant of land and noble title, with the
    grantee obligated ...
    ... to become a Christian and a vassal of [the King]. This latter provision
    caused some trouble, for the chronicler reports that the new vassal
    ... refused to bestow the required kiss upon his liege lord's foot.
    'Never,' said he, 'will I bend my knees before anyone, nor will I kiss the >> foot ...' Moved, however, by their prayers he ordered one of his warriors >> to kiss the king's foot. The latter promptly seized the king's foot,
    carried it to his mouth and kissed it standing, thus throwing the king onto
    his back. At that there was a roar of laughter and a great
    disturbance amongst the spectators.

    (16) What specific title was the new vassal granted?

    Duke of Normandy

    2 points for Dan_T, Erland


    (17) Name EITHER the King allegedly thrown onto his back OR his new vassal.

    Charles ("the Simple" III) or Rollo (Hrolf)


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (G) A letter from one Head of State to Another reads as:
    My dear Brother, I would you knew (though not felt) the extreme dolor
    that overwhelms my mind, for that miserable accident which (far contrary >> to my meaning) hath befallen. I have now sent this kinsman of mine, whom >> ere now it hath pleased you to favor, to instruct you truly of that
    which is too irksome for my pen to tell you. I beseech you that ...
    how innocent I am in this case : so you will believe me, that ...
    bid by it. I am not so base minded that fear of any living creature ...
    so afraid to do that were just; or done, to deny the same. I am not...
    nor carry so vile a mind. But, as not to disguise, fits not a King, ...
    my actions, but cause them show even as I meant them. Thus assuring ...
    know this was deserved, yet if I had meant it I would never lay it on ... >> ...
    beseeching God to send you a long reign.

    (19) Who wrote the letter?

    Elizabeth I, Queen of England


    (20) Who was the letter's intended recipient?

    James VI, King of Scots
    (the "miserable accident" was the beheading of James' mother)


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (H) Excerpted from a long report on a foreign country:
    they compute the divisions of every season, not by the number of days,
    but of nights; they keep birthdays and the beginnings of months and years >> in such an order that the day follows the night.
    ...

    Husbands have power of life and death over their wives
    as well as over their children: and when the
    father of a family, born in a more than commonly distinguished
    rank, has died, his relations assemble,
    and, if the circumstances of his death are suspicious, hold
    an investigation upon the wives in the
    manner adopted toward slaves; and, if proof be obtained,
    put them to severe torture, and kill them.
    Their funerals, considering the state of civilization
    among [them], are magnificent and costly;
    and they cast into the fire all things, including living creatures,
    which they suppose to have been dear
    to them when alive; and, a little before this period, slaves and
    dependents, who were ascertained to
    have been beloved by them, were, after the regular funeral rites
    were completed, burnt together with them.

    (22) Who wrote this report?

    (Gaius) Julius Caesar


    (23) On which country was he reporting?

    Gaul

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (I) A deed of sale between two countries reads in part:
    And whereas XXX has an incontestible title to the domain and
    to the possession of the said Territory
    [and XXX] desiring to give to YYY a strong proof of his
    friendship doth hereby cede to YYY in the name
    of XXX for ever and in full Sovereignty the said territory
    with all its rights and appurtenances as
    fully and in the Same manner as they have been acquired by XXX
    in virtue of the above mentioned Treaty
    concluded with his Catholic Majesty.

    In the cession made by the preceeding article are included the
    adjacent Islands[,] all public lots
    and Squares, vacant lands and all public buildings,
    fortifications, barracks and other edifices which
    are not private property. The Archives, papers & documents ...

    (25) Name the then-Head of State of the country which sold the land.

    Napoleon Bonaparte

    2 points for Joshua, Dan_T, Erland


    (26) Name the then-Head of State of the country which bought the land.

    Thomas Jefferson

    2 points for Joshua, Dan_T


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    (J) An early account of paper money:
    With these pieces of paper, made as I have described, he causes all ...
    to be made; and he makes them to pass current universally over all his ... >> territories, and whithersoever his power and sovereignty extends. And ... >> he may think himself, dares to refuse them on pain of death. And indeed ...
    for wheresoever a person may go throughout the Emperor's dominions he ... >> of paper current, and shall be able to transact all sales and purchases ...
    just as well as if they were coins of pure gold. And all the while they ...
    ten bezants? worth does not weigh one golden bezant.

    Furthermore all merchants arriving from ... countries, and bringing ...
    or gems ..., are prohibited from selling to any one but the Emperor.
    ... chosen for this business, men of shrewdness and experience in ...


    (28) Who wrote this account?

    Marco Polo

    2 points for Joshua, Dan_T, Mark, Erland


    (29) Name the Emperor mentioned in the account.

    Kublai Khan (misspelling ok)

    2 points for Joshua, Dan_T, Mark, Erland


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    Totals:
    Dan_T 41
    Mark 27
    Erland 24
    Joshua 23


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    Cheers,
    Jamie

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  • From Dan Tilque@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, September 10, 2026 10:43:31
    Subject: Re: Jamie's Second Contest: - ANSWERS - Who wrote that historic document?

    On 9/10/26 10:23, James Dow Allen wrote:

    (R1-10) Enter the letters (A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, or J) of the events >> in chronological order.

    C, H, E, F, J, D, B, G, I, A
    20 points for Dan_T (perfect score!)

    I'm amazed at this score, considering that 4 or 5 of the answers were,
    at best, educated guesses.

    --
    Dan Tilque

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  • From Mark Brader@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, September 10, 2026 18:48:21
    Subject: Re: Jamie's Second Contest: - ANSWERS - Who wrote that historic document?

    James Dow Allen:
    (11) Show EITHER the name the explorer first gave to the isle first mentioned
    above OR that isle's present-day name.

    Juana or Cuba (1 point for isles almost correct)

    1 point for Dan_T, Mark

    In what way was Hispaniola almost correct?
    --
    Mark Brader | "But wherever information gathers and flows,
    Toronto | two predators follow closely behind it:
    msb@vex.net | censorship and surveillance." --Sarah Jeong

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  • From Erland Sommarskog@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, September 10, 2026 22:04:43
    Subject: Re: Jamie's Second Contest: - ANSWERS - Who wrote that historic document?

    Mark Brader (msb@vex.net) writes:
    James Dow Allen:
    (11) Show EITHER the name the explorer first gave to the isle first mentioned
    above OR that isle's present-day name.

    Juana or Cuba (1 point for isles almost correct)

    1 point for Dan_T, Mark

    In what way was Hispaniola almost correct?

    Certainly a lot more correct than Vancouver Island!

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  • From James Dow Allen@3:633/10 to All on Friday, September 11, 2026 05:01:41
    Subject: Re: Jamie's Second Contest: - ANSWERS - Who wrote that historic document?



    I was impressed with how well contestants did; e.g. on the "Duke of Normandy" question.

    msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) posted:
    James Dow Allen:
    (11) Show EITHER the name the explorer first gave to the isle first mentioned
    above OR that isle's present-day name.

    Juana or Cuba (1 point for isles almost correct)

    1 point for Dan_T, Mark

    In what way was Hispaniola almost correct?

    The long north-going coast was on Juana/Cuba which was the first island discussed in the excerpt.

    I started with the idea of posting an excerpt from Columbus' 1493 letter.
    BUT
    - I picked a poor, confusing excerpt, and
    - Picked a poor 2nd question to go with the "Who wrote?" question.
    After these severe faults in my design, it seemed most fair and congenial
    to give partial credit for "almost correct" answers.

    I'm afraid my contest had various flaws compared with other contests
    here. :-{ Y'all may be pleased that I am unlikely to try again!

    Cheers,
    Jamie

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  • From Erland Sommarskog@3:633/10 to All on Friday, September 11, 2026 18:52:07
    Subject: Re: Jamie's Second Contest: - ANSWERS - Who wrote that historic document?

    James Dow Allen (user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid) writes:
    I'm afraid my contest had various flaws compared with other contests
    here. :-{ Y'all may be pleased that I am unlikely to try again!


    It wasn't too bad. Some questions were hard, but there were a few
    relatively easy ones, enough to make it meaningful to enter. And
    you may have noticed that my most recent quiz was not without faults.

    As for the Columbus question, I will need to admit that his name and
    that part of the world never came to my mind. I got a little lured
    when he talked about winter, something which I would not expect to
    matter a lot in that area. But that was not your fault.

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