MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

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Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Yield

Makes a bunch.

Ingredients

Pastry

* 2 cups flour, 200 g
* 1 cup butter, 200 g
* 1/2 pound cream cheese, 225 g

Mohn Filling

* 1/2 cup poppy seeds, 70 g
* 1 cup walnuts, 100 g, chopped fine
* 1 cup raisins, 150 g, chopped fine
* 8 oz honey, 225 g
Use a little more or less as needed to hold the filling together.

Method

1. Sift the flour.

2. Cream the butter and cream cheese until well blended.

3. Gradually add the flour while mixing.

4. Form the dough into a ball.

5. Refrigerate the dough overnight.

6. Combine the mohn filling ingredients.

7. Use enough honey to hold the poppy seed, walnut, and raisin mixture together. It may take a little more or a little less than 8 oz / 225 g.

8. Roll out the dough, but not too thin.

9. Cut the dough into 3-inch / 8-cm squares.

10. Fill each square with 1 Tbsp / 15 ml of mohn filling.

11. Fold each dough square over to make a triangle.

12. Bake on a greased pan at 350 F / 175 C until golden brown, about 20 minutes.

Notes

?Mohn? refers to the poppy-seed filling.

This version uses a very simple cream-cheese pastry: flour, butter, and cream cheese. The dough is chilled overnight before rolling.

The filling is dense and sweet, made from poppy seeds, finely chopped walnuts, finely chopped raisins, and enough honey to bind it together.

The recipe forms the pastries from squares of dough folded into triangles, rather than from rounds pinched into the more familiar three-cornered shape used in many modern hamantaschen recipes.

Roll the dough thick enough to hold the filling without tearing. The original instruction says ?not too thin.?

Because the filling is sweetened and bound by honey rather than cooked into a separate paste, chop the walnuts and raisins fine so the filling holds together neatly inside the pastry.

Verified Recipe Note: The title uses the spelling Hamantashen. The more common modern spelling is hamantaschen, but the original spelling is preserved here.

Verified Recipe Note: The original yield says ?Makes a bunch,? so no exact count is given.

Verified Recipe Note: The rating gives the time as 1 hour preparation in two 1/2-hour pieces, plus 20 minutes baking. This reflects the overnight chilling step between dough preparation and final rolling/filling.

Rating

* Difficulty: Easy
* Time: 1 hour preparation, in two 1/2-hour pieces, plus 20 minutes baking
* Precision: Measure the pastry ingredients carefully

Contributor

Alan M. Marcum
Sun Microsystems
Mountain View, California
sun!nescorna!marcum

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Origin Note

This recipe comes from the USENET Cookbook project, a moderated electronic recipe collection distributed through early Internet newsgroups. The original was written in the project?s structured recipe markup, where HAMANTASHEN was the recipe key and D marked it as a dessert.

The preserved entry lists the recipe as last modified on 23 May 1986 and posted to mod.recipes on 3 Aug 1986. It was contributed by Alan M. Marcum of Sun Microsystems in Mountain View, California.

This is a Purim pastry recipe built around a butter-and-cream-cheese dough and a mohn filling of poppy seeds, walnuts, raisins, and honey. Its shape, holiday note, and poppy-seed filling are the defining features.

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MummyChunk wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

----------------------------------------

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the
Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s
attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the rag heads
Mummy?


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Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:

ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the
Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s
attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the rag heads Mummy?

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

~

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ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Hank Rogers <Hank> posted:

ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the
Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s
attempt to destroy the J*ws; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not J*ws. What do you have for the rag heads
Mummy?

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the J*ws.

~

Thanks for the note. The line in my post was reflecting the explanation given in the original 1986 USENET recipe, not offering it as a settled historical claim.


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On 2026-09-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:

ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the
Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s
attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the rag heads
Mummy?

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

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On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 09:05:33 -0000 (UTC)
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

You lie as easily as some breathe Hammy.

https://www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/contrad/external/haman.html

H?m?n According To The Qur?an: A Brief Character Analysis

Haman is mentioned by name in six verses of the Qur?an.[1] From the
se six verses we can deduce Haman is one of the characters depicted in the confrontation between Moses and Pharaoh, indicating it is this part of the story where the context of Haman can be properly established. Other charact
ers that form part of this narrative are H?r?n (Prophet, supporte
r of Moses) and Qar?n. Three other characters, al-Samiri, the unidenti
fied servant and the servant of God, do not play a role in the confrontatio
n though they are part of the larger Moses narrative. One of the most vivid
ly described and oft-repeated head-to-head confrontations in the Qur?
?an, this story can be found dispersed throughout many s?rahs. Based
primarily on the principal continuous text portions we can indeed discover
the Qur?anic Haman, and reach a more useful assessment of his char
acter than simply listing the verses containing his name.

CONFRONTATION BETWEEN MOSES AND PHARAOH

The confrontation between Moses and the Pharaoh is one of the most vividly described stories in the Qur?an, mentioned with details in fifteen
s?rahs.[2] This part of the story begins when God sends Moses to Phara
oh with miraculous signs. After showing Pharaoh his miraculous signs, Phara oh?s inner circle of leaders become fearful, with Pharaoh accusing
Moses of being a learned sorcerer trying to expel him from Egypt by using m agic. Consequently, the Pharaoh sets a challenge between Moses and his best
magicians to see whose signs are really superior; this event is given adde
d significance as it is to take place on the renowned ?Day of Celeb
ration?. When the contest takes place and Moses prevails, Pharaoh
?s magicians fall prostrate and openly declare their belief in the
God of Moses. Pharaoh refused to accept the result of the contest and inste
ad threatens severe punishment to anyone who believes in Moses and his God.
Frustrated by Moses? success and the wavering of his own people, P
haraoh instructs Haman to construct for him a lofty tower so that he can su rvey the God of Moses, though he is convinced Moses is lying. Thus we can o bserve it is at this stage of the confrontation that Haman assumes a clearl
y defined role. Likewise, it is at this point in the story we reach the cli
max of Pharaoh?s haughtiness and arrogance, who after been given a
physical demonstration of miraculous signs and personal reminders from Mose
s, thinks he is able to survey God as a God. Eventually Pharaoh tried to ki
ll Moses and his followers but instead was drowned as a punishment from God
and his body preserved as a sign for future generations.

The main characters in the story are undoubtedly Moses and Pharaoh,
protagonist and antagonist, respectively. Though Haman is portrayed as
a minor character whose authority and power are clearly secondary to
Pharaoh?s, his importance as part of Pharaoh?s court should
not be
underestimated. Indirectly, Haman?s seniority as part of Pharaoh?
??s
court is mentioned in the story when Moses was sent to Pharaoh and his
chiefs with signs but they were rejected [Qur?an 7:103]. Although n
ot
mentioned by name in this verse, it is clear that Haman must be
considered part of this group and he is one of Pharaoh?s leading
supporters. Only snippets of information are given regarding Haman, so
one cannot indulge in an all-encompassing discussion regarding his
personality, character traits, etc., though what we do learn about him
is not unimportant. Haman is given commands and carries them out
dutifully. He is put in charge of a very important construction
project, indicating he possessed seniority and skill necessary to see
the task through to completion, although we are not told anything more
about the construction of the tower or if it was even built. He holds a
senior enough position to be mentioned along with Pharaoh repeatedly.
He was also an accuser, calling Moses a sorcerer and a liar. Haman is
portrayed as a highly unethical character; motivated by his hatred
towards the believers, and, along with Pharaoh and Qar?n, he initiated
the slaying of the sons of the believers sparing only their women.
Haman?s character is unchanging; he does not acquire any new attrib
utes
and is described as a wrongdoer, arrogant and one who commits sins.
Haman died perhaps around the same time as the Pharaoh as a punishment
from God for his unbelief and tyranny.


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Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

On 2026-09-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:

ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the
Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s
attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the rag heads >> Mummy?

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

~

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On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 20:51:18 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

On 2026-09-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:

ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten
during the Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the
failure of Haman?s attempt to destroy the Jews; the
triangular shape is commonly associated here with Haman?s
three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the
rag heads Mummy?

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he
offered to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

~

Hammy _always_ lies_ and when caught she never says a word in reply nor rebuttal, just slinks off to lie again another day.

This kind of intellectual deceit and misdirection is risible and
all too common among the left who must manufacture outrage to cover for
their own lack of critical reasoning and dearth of verifiable data
points.

What's worse is that Hammy is on a rinse, lather, repeat cycle here and
so it may be useful to compile a weblog of her most obvious hoof in
mouth episodes to replay for her again and again and again...

Suffice to say AI and Hammy are incompatible.



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On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 20:51:18 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

On 2026-09-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:

ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the
Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s
attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the rag heads >> >> Mummy?

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

Next: The Tooth Fairy.

--
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On 2026-09-10, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

On 2026-09-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:

ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the
Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s
attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the rag heads >> >> Mummy?

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

Nobody can prove a negative. It's logically impossible.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 9/10/2026 3:51 PM:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

On 2026-09-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:

ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the >>>>>> Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s
attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the rag heads >>>> Mummy?

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

~

She won't take up your challenge. Hell, you've already proven the
existence of the christian gods. We all respect your theological knowledge.



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Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/10/2026 4:03 PM:

On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 20:51:18 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

On 2026-09-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:

ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the >>>>>>> Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s >>>>>>> attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the rag heads >>>>> Mummy?

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

Next: The Tooth Fairy.

Maybe Uncle Tojo should make a ruling on this.


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On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 16:48:22 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/10/2026 4:03 PM:

On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 20:51:18 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

Next: The Tooth Fairy.

Maybe Uncle Tojo should make a ruling on this.

He'll say that the Tooth Fairy's trending with the kids on the
mainland.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote on 9/10/2026 4:42 PM:

On 2026-09-10, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

On 2026-09-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:

ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the >>>>>>> Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s >>>>>>> attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the rag heads >>>>> Mummy?

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

Nobody can prove a negative. It's logically impossible.

With god's help, she can prove anything!



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On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 17:38:33 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote on 9/10/2026 4:42 PM:

On 2026-09-10, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

Nobody can prove a negative. It's logically impossible.

With god's help, she can prove anything!

Leo and Joan should become destinations for school excursions. "Look
children, this is what people were like in the 1950s!"

--
Bruce
<https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>

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On 2026-09-11, Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Leo and Joan should become destinations for school excursions. "Look children, this is what people were like in the 1950s!"

Thank you!

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On 11 Sep 2026 02:04:17 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 2026-09-11, Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Leo and Joan should become destinations for school excursions. "Look
children, this is what people were like in the 1950s!"

Thank you!

You're welcome :)

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On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:42:36 -0000 (UTC)
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

Nobody can prove a negative. It's logically impossible.

Bugger off then , Hammy dear.

You seem to operate in a weirld where mere aphorisms and turns
of phrase constitute guardrails on your larger perceptions, which are as blunted as an old butter knife anyway...


Oh and:

"AI Overview

Yes, you can prove a negative statement or the
non-existence of something, provided the claim is tested within a
defined, bounded space or a logical system.

Examples of Negatives That Can Be Proved

Closed physical spaces: You can
prove there is no milk in a specific mug by looking inside it, or that
a sealed room contains no oxygen by running a chemical test.

Mathematical
limits: You can prove that no integer squared equals 2 (\(\sqrt{2}\) is irrational) or that there are no three positive integers a, b, and c
that satisfy \(a^n + b^n = c^n\) for any integer n > 2 (Fermat's Last
Theorem).

Logical
definitions: You can prove that no triangle has four sides because it
violates the fundamental definition of a triangle.

Exhaustive
searches: You can prove that a specific text (like the novel Moby Dick) contains the word "xyz" zero times by running a search through every
single word.

Biochemical limits: You can prove that Earth's atmosphere
is not made of 90% pure chlorine gas because humans are alive and
breathing it, which would be impossible under those chemical
conditions.'


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On 9/10/2026 11:26 AM, chef boy howdy wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 09:05:33 -0000 (UTC)
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

You lie as easily as some breathe Hammy.

https://www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/contrad/external/haman.html

H?m?n According To The Qur?an: A Brief Character Anal

ysis

Haman is mentioned by name in six verses of the Qur?an.[1] From

these six verses we can deduce Haman is one of the characters depicted i
n the confrontation between Moses and Pharaoh, indicating it is this part
of the story where the context of Haman can be properly established. Oth
er characters that form part of this narrative are H?r?n (Proph
et, supporter of Moses) and Qar?n. Three other characters, al-Samiri
, the unidentified servant and the servant of God, do not play a role in
the confrontation though they are part of the larger Moses narrative. One
of the most vividly described and oft-repeated head-to-head confrontatio
ns in the Qur?an, this story can be found dispersed throughout ma
ny s?rahs. Based primarily on the principal continuous text portions
we can indeed discover the Qur?anic Haman, and reach a more usef
ul assessment of his character than simply listing the verses containing
his name.

CONFRONTATION BETWEEN MOSES AND PHARAOH

The confrontation between Moses and the Pharaoh is one of the most vivi

dly described stories in the Qur?an, mentioned with details in fi
fteen s?rahs.[2] This part of the story begins when God sends Moses
to Pharaoh with miraculous signs. After showing Pharaoh his miraculous si
gns, Pharaoh?s inner circle of leaders become fearful, with Phara
oh accusing Moses of being a learned sorcerer trying to expel him from Eg
ypt by using magic. Consequently, the Pharaoh sets a challenge between Mo
ses and his best magicians to see whose signs are really superior; this e
vent is given added significance as it is to take place on the renowned ?
??Day of Celebration?. When the contest takes place and Moses
prevails, Pharaoh?s magicians fall prostrate and openly declare
their belief in the God of Moses. Pharaoh refused to accept the result of
the contest and instead threatens severe punishment to anyone who believ
es in Moses and his God. Frustrated by Moses? success and the wav
ering of his own people, Pharaoh instructs Haman to construct for him a l
ofty tower so that he can survey the God of Moses, though he is convinced
Moses is lying. Thus we can observe it is at this stage of the confronta
tion that Haman assumes a clearly defined role. Likewise, it is at this p
oint in the story we reach the climax of Pharaoh?s haughtiness an
d arrogance, who after been given a physical demonstration of miraculous
signs and personal reminders from Moses, thinks he is able to survey God
as a God. Eventually Pharaoh tried to kill Moses and his followers but in
stead was drowned as a punishment from God and his body preserved as a si
gn for future generations.


[remainder snipped for a semblance of brevity]

What's the difference whether it's true or not? Many people enjoy their religion for the traditions of that religion as much or more than the
belief system that religion preaches. If some people enjoy baking
and/or eating a certain pastry it's irrelevant whether or not the
tradition of baking and/or eating a specific pastry recipie is factually
based. They enjoy the tradition and possibly the food(s) associated
with it. We have no right to criticize anyone's traditions provided they
don't intrude on our freedom to enjoy different traditions.

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Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 17:38:33 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank>
wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote on 9/10/2026 4:42 PM:
On 2026-09-10, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280> posted:

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

Nobody can prove a negative. It's logically impossible.

With god's help, she can prove anything!

Leo and Joan should become destinations for school excursions. "Look children, this is what people were like in the 1950s!"

--
Bruce
https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg

Uncle Bruce has a point. Why merely argue with Leo and Joan when we could preserve them for educational purposes? Field trips daily. Please do not tap the glass.

I can imagine this all too vividly

Leo & Joan
The Living 1950's

Step right up for a thrilling journey into the land that progress forgot!

Educational! Historical! Mildly alarming!

See below


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Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:

On 2026-09-11, Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Leo and Joan should become destinations for school excursions. "Look children, this is what people were like in the 1950s!"

Thank you!

?

~

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On Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:55:56 -0400
Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> wrote:

On 9/10/2026 11:26 AM, chef boy howdy wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 09:05:33 -0000 (UTC)
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he
offered to destroy the Jews.

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

You lie as easily as some breathe Hammy.

https://www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/contrad/external/haman.html

H?m?n According To The Qur?an: A Brief Character Anal

ysis

Haman is mentioned by name in six verses of the Qur?an.[1] From
these six verses we can deduce Haman is one of the characters
depicted in the confrontation between Moses and Pharaoh, indicating
it is this part of the story where the context of Haman can be
properly established. Other characters that form part of this
narrative are H?r?n (Prophet, supporter of Moses) and Qar?

?n. Three

other characters, al-Samiri, the unidentified servant and the
servant of God, do not play a role in the confrontation though they
are part of the larger Moses narrative. One of the most vividly
described and oft-repeated head-to-head confrontations in the
Qur?an, this story can be found dispersed throughout many s?

?rahs.

Based primarily on the principal continuous text portions we can
indeed discover the Qur?anic Haman, and reach a more useful
assessment of his character than simply listing the verses
containing his name.

CONFRONTATION BETWEEN MOSES AND PHARAOH

The confrontation between Moses and the Pharaoh is one of the most
vividly described stories in the Qur?an, mentioned with details

in

fifteen s?rahs.[2] This part of the story begins when God sends
Moses to Pharaoh with miraculous signs. After showing Pharaoh his miraculous signs, Pharaoh?s inner circle of leaders become fear

ful,

with Pharaoh accusing Moses of being a learned sorcerer trying to
expel him from Egypt by using magic. Consequently, the Pharaoh sets
a challenge between Moses and his best magicians to see whose signs
are really superior; this event is given added significance as it
is to take place on the renowned ?Day of Celebration?.

When the

contest takes place and Moses prevails, Pharaoh?s magicians fall
prostrate and openly declare their belief in the God of Moses.
Pharaoh refused to accept the result of the contest and instead
threatens severe punishment to anyone who believes in Moses and his
God. Frustrated by Moses? success and the wavering of his own
people, Pharaoh instructs Haman to construct for him a lofty tower
so that he can survey the God of Moses, though he is convinced
Moses is lying. Thus we can observe it is at this stage of the confrontation that Haman assumes a clearly defined role. Likewise,
it is at this point in the story we reach the climax of Pharaoh?

?s

haughtiness and arrogance, who after been given a physical
demonstration of miraculous signs and personal reminders from
Moses, thinks he is able to survey God as a God. Eventually Pharaoh
tried to kill Moses and his followers but instead was drowned as a punishment from God and his body preserved as a sign for future generations.

[remainder snipped for a semblance of brevity]

What's the difference whether it's true or not?

The knee-jerk swift dismissal as if Hammy had a fucking clue, that's
what!

Many people enjoy
their religion for the traditions of that religion as much or more
than the belief system that religion preaches.

That's nice and so?

If some people enjoy
baking and/or eating a certain pastry it's irrelevant whether or not
the tradition of baking and/or eating a specific pastry recipie is
factually based.

Croissant time for you then?

They enjoy the tradition and possibly the food(s)
associated with it. We have no right to criticize anyone's traditions provided they don't intrude on our freedom to enjoy different
traditions.

And yet Hammy did.



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On Fri, 11 Sep 2026 13:20:12 -0400
mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) wrote:

Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 17:38:33 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank>
wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote on 9/10/2026 4:42 PM:
On 2026-09-10, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280> posted:

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go
on?

Nobody can prove a negative. It's logically impossible.

With god's help, she can prove anything!

Leo and Joan should become destinations for school excursions. "Look children, this is what people were like in the 1950s!"

--
Bruce
https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg

Uncle Bruce has a point. Why merely argue with Leo and Joan when we
could preserve them for educational purposes? Field trips daily.
Please do not tap the glass.

I can imagine this all too vividly

Leo & Joan
The Living 1950's

Step right up for a thrilling journey into the land that progress
forgot!

Educational! Historical! Mildly alarming!

See below

*snork!*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhPie6d1J7s


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MummyChunk wrote on 9/11/2026 12:20 PM:

Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 17:38:33 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank>
wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote on 9/10/2026 4:42 PM:
On 2026-09-10, ItsJoanNotJoAnnÿ webtv.net <user4742> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280> posted:

There's no evidence Haman existed, either.ÿ People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist.ÿ We're even; want to go on?

Nobody can prove a negative.ÿ It's logically impossible.

With god's help, she can prove anything!

Leo and Joan should become destinations for school excursions. "Look
children, this is what people were like in the 1950s!"

--
Bruce
https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg

Uncle Bruce has a point. Why merely argue with Leo and Joan when we
could preserve them for educational purposes? Field trips daily. Please
do not tap the glass.

I can imagine this all too vividly

Leo & Joan
The Living 1950's

Better yet, why not use old Popeye (sheldon) Katz for an exhibit about
the 1940's and 30's?

Nah. He'd rip into your ass like duck on a june bug. (unless yoose have
big ole titties)


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On Fri, 11 Sep 2026 13:20:12 -0400,
mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) wrote:

Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 17:38:33 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank>
wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote on 9/10/2026 4:42 PM:
On 2026-09-10, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742> wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280> posted:

There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
whatever etymology they please.

And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

Nobody can prove a negative. It's logically impossible.

With god's help, she can prove anything!

Leo and Joan should become destinations for school excursions. "Look
children, this is what people were like in the 1950s!"

--
Bruce
https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg

Uncle Bruce has a point. Why merely argue with Leo and Joan when we could preserve them for educational purposes? Field trips daily. Please do not tap the glass.

I can imagine this all too vividly

Leo & Joan
The Living 1950's

Step right up for a thrilling journey into the land that progress forgot!

Educational! Historical! Mildly alarming!

:)

--
Bruce
<https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>

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On 9/9/2026 7:15 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

(snipped nasty asshole)>> ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the
Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s
attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

~

Odd timing since this was posted by fly-by-nighter Mummy mentioning
Purim on the start of Rosh Hashanah. They are not the same thing. I
would guess that AI stuff isn't working so well.

A long time ago RFC poster (RIP Margaret Suran) made some Hamantashen
and it to me. Absolutely delicious. You don't have to be Jewish to
enjoy good baked treats.

--
Jill

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jmcquown wrote on 9/12/2026 4:27 PM:

On 9/9/2026 7:15 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

(snipped nasty asshole)>> ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

MOHN HAMANTASHEN
A triangular filled pastry

Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten during the
Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the failure of Haman?s
attempt to destroy the Jews; the triangular shape is commonly
associated here with Haman?s three-cornered hat.

There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
Hamentashen.ÿ That references back to the vast treasure he offered
to destroy the Jews.

~

Odd timing since this was posted by fly-by-nighter Mummy mentioning
Purim on the start of Rosh Hashanah.ÿ They are not the same thing.ÿ I
would guess that AI stuff isn't working so well.

A long time ago RFC poster (RIP Margaret Suran) made some Hamantashen
and it to me.ÿ Absolutely delicious.ÿ You don't have to be Jewish to
enjoy good baked treats.

Why has your majesty not banned chummy munk? The bitch has invaded your Majesty's personal domain, and shit all over your royal accoutrements.

You must take action. There is NO room for TWO royal bitches on a single newsgroup.

I'm pulling for your Majesty!

Fuck the chummy monkey.



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