A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of thens/
articles escape the paywall. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick-pa
A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of the articles escape the paywall. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick-pans/
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:
A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of the articles
escape the paywall.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick-pans/
I've got one PTFE skillet and it's used for eggs. I've seen the ceramic pans >but they've never intrigued me enough to buy one.
A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of the articles escape the paywall. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick- pans/
I read that if you're using a non-stick pan and have a birdie in a
cage, don't put the cage too close to the pan or the bird may die. Of
course, any RFC'er worth their salt would just put the dead bird in
the non-stick pan.
On 2026-07-28, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I read that if you're using a non-stick pan and have a birdie in a
cage, don't put the cage too close to the pan or the bird may die. Of
course, any RFC'er worth their salt would just put the dead bird in
the non-stick pan.
Gotta pick and gut 'em first. That's a pain in the ass. Not enough meat
on a parakeet. A full sized parrot is iffy.
But! You can breast 'em. That's a dove and quail trick. You learn so
much from me.
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller than
most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans, though.
On 2026-07-29, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller than
most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans, though.
Aren't you supposed to hide yourself in shame and orgasmic pleasure when
you eat them? I remember that from somewhere. Probably wrong.
On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 22:10:58 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:
A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of the articles
escape the paywall.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick-pans/
I've got one PTFE skillet and it's used for eggs. I've seen the ceramic pans >but they've never intrigued me enough to buy one.
I read that if you're using a non-stick pan and have a birdie in a
cage, don't put the cage too close to the pan or the bird may die. Of
course, any RFC'er worth their salt would just put the dead bird in
the non-stick pan.
On 29 Jul 2026 01:31:11 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-28, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I read that if you're using a non-stick pan and have a birdie in a
cage, don't put the cage too close to the pan or the bird may die. Of
course, any RFC'er worth their salt would just put the dead bird in
the non-stick pan.
Gotta pick and gut 'em first. That's a pain in the ass. Not enough meat
on a parakeet. A full sized parrot is iffy.
But! You can breast 'em. That's a dove and quail trick. You learn so
much from me.
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller than
most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans, though.
<https://cdn.download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/169221351/1800>
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 22:10:58 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:
A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of the articles >> >> escape the paywall.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick-pans/
I've got one PTFE skillet and it's used for eggs. I've seen the ceramic pans
but they've never intrigued me enough to buy one.
I read that if you're using a non-stick pan and have a birdie in a
cage, don't put the cage too close to the pan or the bird may die. Of
course, any RFC'er worth their salt would just put the dead bird in
the non-stick pan.
That was the advice years and years ago, but supposedly whatever it was
that was putting off harmful fumes was removed from the manufacture of
these pans.
A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of the articles escape the paywall. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick-pans/
On 2026-07-29, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller than
most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans, though.
Aren't you supposed to hide yourself in shame and orgasmic pleasure when
you eat them? I remember that from somewhere. Probably wrong.
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-07-29, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller than
most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans, though.
Aren't you supposed to hide yourself in shame and orgasmic pleasure when
you eat them? I remember that from somewhere. Probably wrong.
The French - they're all oh so very strange people.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/RLXZDcIDywg/m/OUqh0xBlAJsJ
On Wed, 29 Jul 2026 18:28:54 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-07-29, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller than >> > most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans, though.
Aren't you supposed to hide yourself in shame and orgasmic pleasure when >> you eat them? I remember that from somewhere. Probably wrong.
The French - they're all oh so very strange people.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/RLXZDcIDywg/m/OUqh0xBlAJsJ
They never ate live birds. Eating cooked ortolans is also a thing from
the past.
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:
A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of the
articles escape the paywall. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick-pans/
I've been using Korean made, thick cast aluminum, Maifan coated, pans
for years. I love the pans but they're not well known in the US.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/SbbUoBauSmp4MH4a9
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-07-29, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne
<restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller
than most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans,
though.
Aren't you supposed to hide yourself in shame and orgasmic pleasure
when you eat them? I remember that from somewhere. Probably wrong.
The French - they're all oh so very strange people.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/RLXZDcIDywg/m/OUqh0xBlAJsJ
On Wed, 29 Jul 2026 18:20:59 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:
A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of the
articles escape the paywall. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick-pans/
I've been using Korean made, thick cast aluminum, Maifan coated, pans
for years. I love the pans but they're not well known in the US.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/SbbUoBauSmp4MH4a9
On your recommendation I am using roughly the same wok and it is the
best nonstick wok ever - and my prior T-Fal was the best back in its
day.
Clawed Dallas <ow@hy.ee> posted:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2026 18:20:59 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:
A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of the
articles escape the paywall. https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick-pans/
I've been using Korean made, thick cast aluminum, Maifan coated,
pans for years. I love the pans but they're not well known in the
US.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/SbbUoBauSmp4MH4a9
On your recommendation I am using roughly the same wok and it is the
best nonstick wok ever - and my prior T-Fal was the best back in its
day.
The weird part is that I used to avoid aluminum non-stick pans
because they'd warp and the coatings weren't durable enough because
my high heat cooking would ruin the pans. Things have certainly
changed. OTOH, change is good.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tgMjQePdNnfUGg5A8
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> posted:
A good article in the Wirecutter, NYT. I've found some of the articles
escape the paywall.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/give-up-on-ceramic-nonstick-pans/
I've been using Korean made, thick cast aluminum, Maifan coated, pans for years.
I love the pans but they're not well known in the US.
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-07-29, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller than
most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans, though.
Aren't you supposed to hide yourself in shame and orgasmic pleasure when
you eat them? I remember that from somewhere. Probably wrong.
The French - they're all oh so very strange people.
dsi1 wrote on 7/29/2026 1:28 PM:
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
On 2026-07-29, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne
<restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller
than most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans,
though.
Aren't you supposed to hide yourself in shame and orgasmic
pleasure when you eat them? I remember that from somewhere.
Probably wrong.
The French - they're all oh so very strange people.
Yes Uncle. They are not chinese; not even asian at all. And they
are FAR inferior to da hiwayans.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On 29 Jul 2026 01:31:11 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-28, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I read that if you're using a non-stick pan and have a birdie in a
cage, don't put the cage too close to the pan or the bird may die. Of
course, any RFC'er worth their salt would just put the dead bird in
the non-stick pan.
Gotta pick and gut 'em first. That's a pain in the ass. Not enough meat >on a parakeet. A full sized parrot is iffy.
But! You can breast 'em. That's a dove and quail trick. You learn so
much from me.
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller than
most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans, though.
<https://cdn.download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/169221351/1800>
In the movie "Gigi" her aunt in schooling her to be a courtesan and one
of the things is to correctly eat ortolans and not worry about the bones, eat those as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvPJ0hRA6x4
If I remember correctly, Francois Mitterrand was raked over the coals for eating a plate of ortolans knowing they are/were an endangered species.
~
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On 29 Jul 2026 01:31:11 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-28, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne ><restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I read that if you're using a non-stick pan and have a birdie
in a cage, don't put the cage too close to the pan or the bird
may die. Of course, any RFC'er worth their salt would just put
the dead bird in the non-stick pan.
Gotta pick and gut 'em first. That's a pain in the ass. Not
enough meat on a parakeet. A full sized parrot is iffy.
But! You can breast 'em. That's a dove and quail trick. You
learn so much from me.
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller
than most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans,
though.
<https://cdn.download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/169221351/1800>
In the movie "Gigi" her aunt in schooling her to be a courtesan and
one of the things is to correctly eat ortolans and not worry about
the bones, eat those as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvPJ0hRA6x4
If I remember correctly, Francois Mitterrand was raked over the
coals for eating a plate of ortolans knowing they are/were an
endangered species.
~
Eating ortolan is an experience so intense you might just drop the
burd's head on the floor in a fit of ecstasy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPMuyGe7dg
On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 04:08:19 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On 29 Jul 2026 01:31:11 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-28, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne ><restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I read that if you're using a non-stick pan and have a birdie
in a cage, don't put the cage too close to the pan or the bird
may die. Of course, any RFC'er worth their salt would just put
the dead bird in the non-stick pan.
Gotta pick and gut 'em first. That's a pain in the ass. Not
enough meat on a parakeet. A full sized parrot is iffy.
But! You can breast 'em. That's a dove and quail trick. You
learn so much from me.
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are smaller
than most parakeets. They didn't kill them using non-stick pans, though.
<https://cdn.download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/169221351/1800>
In the movie "Gigi" her aunt in schooling her to be a courtesan and
one of the things is to correctly eat ortolans and not worry about
the bones, eat those as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvPJ0hRA6x4
If I remember correctly, Francois Mitterrand was raked over the
coals for eating a plate of ortolans knowing they are/were an
endangered species.
~
Eating ortolan is an experience so intense you might just drop the
burd's head on the floor in a fit of ecstasy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPMuyGe7dg
I feel queasy.
:-/
Conley's Elms <le@ida.hero> posted:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 04:08:19 GMT
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
posted:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid>
posted:
On 29 Jul 2026 01:31:11 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-28, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne ><restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I read that if you're using a non-stick pan and have a
birdie in a cage, don't put the cage too close to the pan
or the bird may die. Of course, any RFC'er worth their
salt would just put the dead bird in the non-stick pan.
Gotta pick and gut 'em first. That's a pain in the ass. Not
enough meat on a parakeet. A full sized parrot is iffy.
But! You can breast 'em. That's a dove and quail trick. You
learn so much from me.
The French used to catch and eat ortolans, birds that are
smaller than most parakeets. They didn't kill them using
non-stick pans, though.
<https://cdn.download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/169221351/1800>
In the movie "Gigi" her aunt in schooling her to be a courtesan
and one of the things is to correctly eat ortolans and not
worry about the bones, eat those as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvPJ0hRA6x4
If I remember correctly, Francois Mitterrand was raked over the
coals for eating a plate of ortolans knowing they are/were an endangered species.
~
Eating ortolan is an experience so intense you might just drop the
burd's head on the floor in a fit of ecstasy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPMuyGe7dg
I feel queasy.
:-/
It's worse than one can even imagine. Maybe the French are pulling
our leg. Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
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