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  • I heard the produce pandemic is related to use of night soil in Mexico.

    From Oregonian Haruspex@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 04:32:14


    Fertilizer prices are up, and everybody has been cutting corners for years.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 09:17:25
    Subject: Re: I heard the produce pandemic is related to use of night soil in Mexico.

    On 2026-07-27, Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:


    Fertilizer prices are up, and everybody has been cutting corners for years.

    "I heard" is not evidence.

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    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 19:37:51
    Subject: Re: I heard the produce pandemic is related to use of night soil in Mexico.

    On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 09:17:25 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-07-27, Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Fertilizer prices are up, and everybody has been cutting corners for years.

    "I heard" is not evidence.

    I keep reading that fertiliser prices, and therefore produce prices,
    are up because of Trump's bumbling around with Iran. That retard does
    a lot of damage.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 13:36:18
    Subject: Re: I heard the produce pandemic is related to use of night soil in Mexico.

    On 2026-07-27, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 09:17:25 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
    <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-07-27, Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Fertilizer prices are up, and everybody has been cutting corners for years. >>
    "I heard" is not evidence.

    I keep reading that fertiliser prices, and therefore produce prices,
    are up because of Trump's bumbling around with Iran. That retard does
    a lot of damage.

    I read the same thing.

    "I heard the produce pandemic is related to use of night soil
    in Mexico" is not evidence of anything.

    The practical logistics of doing so doesn't add up for me. IMHO,
    of course.

    That said, I'm aware that pig manure is used in the U.S. Ideally,
    after composting. If the wind is out of the south on just the
    right day, I know some farmer down there is manuring his fields.

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    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Clawed Dallas@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 08:59:04
    Subject: Re: I heard the produce pandemic is related to use of night soil in Mexico.

    On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 09:17:25 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-07-27, Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:


    Fertilizer prices are up, and everybody has been cutting corners
    for years.

    "I heard" is not evidence.


    Is this a court of law or a colloquium of commentary Hammy dear?


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  • From Clawed Dallas@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 08:55:32
    Subject: Re: I heard the produce pandemic is related to use of night soil in Mexico.

    On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 04:32:14 -0000 (UTC)
    Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Fertilizer prices are up, and everybody has been cutting corners for
    years.

    This could well be a factor.


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  • From Clawed Dallas@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 09:02:53
    Subject: Re: I heard the produce pandemic is related to use of night soil in Mexico.

    On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 13:36:18 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    I read the same thing.

    "I heard the produce pandemic is related to use of night soil
    in Mexico" is not evidence of anything.

    The practical logistics of doing so doesn't add up for me. IMHO,
    of course.

    AI Overview

    No, Mexico is not nationwide using raw
    "night soil" to escape high fertilizer costs.

    While specific
    small-scale organic projects and historical traditions use treated
    human waste, it is not a widespread industrial practice driven by
    modern fertilizer prices.

    Context and PracticesSmall-Scale Composting:
    Certain niche organic farms and eco-projects (such as Olin Tiali) use
    dry toilets to safely compost human waste and urine into pathogen-free fertilizer.

    Ancient Traditions: Traditional Aztec chinampas (floating
    gardens) in areas like Xochimilco historically utilized nutrient-rich
    canal mud and organic management, a practice modern local farmers work
    to preserve.

    Commercial Agriculture: Large-scale Mexican farming relies
    on conventional chemical fertilizers and commercial supply chains,
    which face cost pressures from global market shifts rather than turning
    to widespread human waste collection.


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