We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. I have to confess that
I cooked it a little bit past the medium rare that I was aiming for, but
it was delicious. There was still some nice pinkness to it. My wife had
par boiled some heritage carrots that were finished on the grill and she >steamed some broccoli. She had said something about asparagus but >apparently that translated to brocolli. Dessert was a raspberry rhubarb >cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:44:37 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. Dessert was a raspberry >rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
I never understand why people eat cake after they've just eaten.
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. I have to confess that
I cooked it a little bit past the medium rare that I was aiming for, but
it was delicious. There was still some nice pinkness to it. My wife had
par boiled some heritage carrots that were finished on the grill and she steamed some broccoli. She had said something about asparagus but apparently that translated to brocolli. Dessert was a raspberry rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:44:37 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. Dessert was a raspberry >> >rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
I never understand why people eat cake after they've just eaten.
Take notice of that first word in the second sentence. D e s s e r t.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. I have to confess that
I cooked it a little bit past the medium rare that I was aiming for, but
it was delicious. There was still some nice pinkness to it. My wife had
par boiled some heritage carrots that were finished on the grill and she
steamed some broccoli. She had said something about asparagus but
apparently that translated to brocolli. Dessert was a raspberry rhubarb
cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
It was a grilled Hebrew National beef (of course) hot dog here.
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:17:54 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:44:37 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. Dessert was a raspberry >>>> rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
I never understand why people eat cake after they've just eaten.
Take notice of that first word in the second sentence. D e s s e r t.
I know what that word means, but my question remains: why eat cake
when you're already as full as you'll be that day, unless the doctor
told you that you need to gain weight.
On 7/26/2026 10:29 PM, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:17:54 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:44:37 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. Dessert was a raspberry >>>>> rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
I never understand why people eat cake after they've just eaten.
Take notice of that first word in the second sentence. D e s s e r t.
I know what that word means, but my question remains: why eat cake
when you're already as full as you'll be that day, unless the doctor
told you that you need to gain weight.
Knowing dessert will be served, I eat a bit less of the rest of the meal
for balance. Normally, I eat dinner about 6 and have a dessert about 8.
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:17:54 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:44:37 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. Dessert was a raspberry
rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
I never understand why people eat cake after they've just eaten.
Take notice of that first word in the second sentence. D e s s e r t.
I know what that word means, but my question remains: why eat cake
when you're already as full as you'll be that day, unless the doctor
told you that you need to gain weight.
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:19:33 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill.
It was a grilled Hebrew National beef (of course) hot dog here.
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:19:33 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill.
It was a grilled Hebrew National beef (of course) hot dog here.
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for meatVery valid consideration. I can just imagine the streets overrun with
and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of starvation.
Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat and reproduce.
~
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:19:33 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill.
It was a grilled Hebrew National beef (of course) hot dog here.
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for meat
and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of starvation. >Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat and reproduce.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:17:54 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:44:37 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. Dessert was a raspberry >>>>> rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
I never understand why people eat cake after they've just eaten.
Take notice of that first word in the second sentence. D e s s e r t.
I know what that word means, but my question remains: why eat cake
when you're already as full as you'll be that day, unless the doctor
told you that you need to gain weight.
Evidently, he wasn't full and the slice of cake hit the spot and filled up that corner of his stomach. This happens frequently, at least it does in North America.Which is why Ozempic is so popular now.
~
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:17:54 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:44:37 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. Dessert was a raspberry >>> >rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
I never understand why people eat cake after they've just eaten.
Take notice of that first word in the second sentence. D e s s e r t.
I know what that word means, but my question remains: why eat cake
when you're already as full as you'll be that day, unless the doctor
told you that you need to gain weight.
On 2026-07-27, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:17:54 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:44:37 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. Dessert was a raspberry >>>>> rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
I never understand why people eat cake after they've just eaten.
Take notice of that first word in the second sentence. D e s s e r t.
I know what that word means, but my question remains: why eat cake
when you're already as full as you'll be that day, unless the doctor
told you that you need to gain weight.
"Save room for dessert."
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. I have to confess
that I cooked it a little bit past the medium rare that I was aiming
for, but it was delicious.
On 7/26/2026 11:09 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:19:33 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill.
It was a grilled Hebrew National beef (of course) hot dog here.
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered
for meat and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of starvation. Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is
eat and reproduce.
~Very valid consideration. I can just imagine the streets overrun
with cows and goats wandering around. You go to the market and can't
park because the lot is loaded with sheep, pigs and a flock of
chickens.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:19:33 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill.
It was a grilled Hebrew National beef (of course) hot dog here.
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for
meat and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of
starvation. Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat
and reproduce.
~
On 7/26/2026 11:09 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:19:33 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill.
It was a grilled Hebrew National beef (of course) hot dog here.
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for meat and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of starvation. Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat and reproduce.
Very valid consideration. I can just imagine the streets overrun with
cows and goats wandering around. You go to the market and can't park because the lot is loaded with sheep, pigs and a flock of chickens.
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 03:09:22 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:19:33 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill.
It was a grilled Hebrew National beef (of course) hot dog here.
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for meat >and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of starvation. >Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat and reproduce.
That's bizarre logic. Do you really think all those cows would be
there waiting to be slaughtered if youse weren't going to eat them
all?
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 03:09:22 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:19:33 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill.
It was a grilled Hebrew National beef (of course) hot dog here.
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for
meat and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of
starvation. Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat
and reproduce.
Generally true, albeit when we farm raise them their proclivities for reproduction get managed tightly.
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
Very valid consideration. I can just imagine the streets overrun with
cows and goats wandering around. You go to the market and can't park
because the lot is loaded with sheep, pigs and a flock of chickens.
Think of India where cows roam free and of course that enticing aroma
of dung everywhere.
On 2026-07-27 12:06 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
Very valid consideration. I can just imagine the streets overrun with
cows and goats wandering around. You go to the market and can't park
because the lot is loaded with sheep, pigs and a flock of chickens.
Think of India where cows roam free and of course that enticing aroma
of dung everywhere.
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bed. The bonus is that they can put
it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for cooking.
On 2026-07-27 12:06 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
Very valid consideration. I can just imagine the streets overrun with
cows and goats wandering around. You go to the market and can't park
because the lot is loaded with sheep, pigs and a flock of chickens.
Think of India where cows roam free and of course that enticing aroma
of dung everywhere.
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bed. The bonus is that they can put
it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for cooking.
On 2026-07-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-07-27 12:06 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
Very valid consideration. I can just imagine the streets overrun with >>> cows and goats wandering around. You go to the market and can't park
because the lot is loaded with sheep, pigs and a flock of chickens.
Think of India where cows roam free and of course that enticing aroma
of dung everywhere.
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bed. The bonus is that they can put it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for cooking.
Pig shit is much worse. Chicken shit is also not reminiscent of
perfume.
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bed.
Pig shit is much worse.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 03:09:22 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for meat >> >and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of starvation.
Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat and reproduce.
That's bizarre logic. Do you really think all those cows would be
there waiting to be slaughtered if youse weren't going to eat them
all?
Do you think cows, deer, moose, goats, etc. would hold a meeting and all >agreed not to breed as they know they'd starve to death due to over grazing? >In the wild there are predators such as wolves, mountain lions, and bears >that help keep the wild herds under control and prevent over grazing. In
the settled areas there are farms and ranches that keep the domestic animals >under control and benefit from the products those animals produce while alive >and after death.
Clawed Dallas <ow@hy.ee> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 03:09:22 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:Generally true, albeit when we farm raise them their proclivities for
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for
meat and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of
starvation. Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat
and reproduce.
reproduction get managed tightly.
Yes.
On 2026-07-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-07-27 12:06 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bad. The bonus is that they can put
it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for cooking.
Pig shit is much worse. Chicken shit is also not reminiscent of
perfume.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bed. The bonus is that they can put
it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for cooking.
You like shopping and working in an area with manure dropped here and there? I guess it does add that something extra when trying to eat a meal when the workers break for a mid-day meal. Yum-yum.I would definitely prefer not to smell it. Just saying that in the world
On 2026-07-27 1:01 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-07-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-07-27 12:06 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bad. The bonus is that they can put >>> it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for
cooking.
Pig shit is much worse.˙ Chicken shit is also not reminiscent of
perfume.
There are a number of chicken farms around here. Most of the time they
don't smell much. The way it works is that they buy newborn chicks by
the thousands and˙ release them inside the barns where there is feed,
water and heat lamps. The chicks are free to wander, eat, drink and
shit. When they get to the point where they aren't growing enough to pay
for the food they are eating they are gathered up and taken to the
slaughter house.˙ After the chickens are gone the barn cleaning crew
arrives with shovels, rakes, brooms and Bobcat type front end loaders to scrape up all that shit. That is when the stink happens.˙ You can smell
it for miles.
Pig farms smell all the time though the big industrial operations store
the shit in huge covered tanks. Back in late 70s I was working in Fort
Erie and drove past a pig farm on my way to and from work. That was the
days of roll up windows.˙ I used to have to remind myself to roll my
windows up before I got to the pig farm. If I forgot and got to the pig
farm with the windows down it filled my vehicle with that horrible stink
and I would have to leave them down for at least 10 miles to air it out. Horrible stuff.
On 2026-07-27 12:33 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
Pig farms smell all the time though the big industrial operationsMy son and his family once rented a rural house and they had to
store the shit in huge covered tanks. Back in late 70s I was working
in Fort Erie and drove past a pig farm on my way to and from work.
That was the days of roll up windows.˙ I used to have to remind myself
to roll my windows up before I got to the pig farm. If I forgot and
got to the pig farm with the windows down it filled my vehicle with
that horrible stink and I would have to leave them down for at least
10 miles to air it out. Horrible m stuff.
buy drinking water as the local pig farms had contaminated the
groundwater by putting excessive pig shit on the fields.us
On 2026-07-27 3:25 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2026-07-27 12:33 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
Pig farms smell all the time though the big industrial operationsMy son and his family once rented a rural house and they had to
store the shit in huge covered tanks. Back in late 70s I was working
in Fort Erie and drove past a pig farm on my way to and from work.
That was the days of roll up windows.˙ I used to have to remind
myself to roll my windows up before I got to the pig farm. If I
forgot and got to the pig farm with the windows down it filled my
vehicle with that horrible stink and I would have to leave them down
for at least 10 miles to air it out. Horrible m stuff.
buy drinking water as the local pig farms had contaminated the
groundwater by putting excessive pig shit on the fields.us
Farmer John who owns the tree nursery behind uses cow manure. We can
barely smell unless we are walking back there. Once in a while when
driving in even more rural areas I come across a pig˙ manure spreading operation. It's quite a production. They bring the liquid manure in
tanker trailers and transfer it to big bladders and then transfer it
from the bladder to a tractor drawn tank
On 2026-07-27 2:34 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
Farmer John who owns the tree nursery behind uses cow manure. We canI understand that in some operations like that, the shit is injected
barely smell unless we are walking back there. Once in a while when
driving in even more rural areas I come across a pig˙ manure spreading
operation. It's quite a production. They bring the liquid manure in
tanker trailers and transfer it to big bladders and then transfer it
from the bladder to a tractor drawn tank
into the ground.
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 16:14:16 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Clawed Dallas <ow@hy.ee> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 03:09:22 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:Generally true, albeit when we farm raise them their proclivities for
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for
meat and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of
starvation. Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat
and reproduce.
reproduction get managed tightly.
Yes.
The biggest troll known to RFC agrees with you. You must have a skip
in your step today.
On 2026-07-27 1:01 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-07-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-07-27 12:06 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bad. The bonus is that they can put >>> it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for
cooking.
Pig shit is much worse.˙ Chicken shit is also not reminiscent of
perfume.
There are a number of chicken farms around here. Most of the time they
don't smell much. The way it works is that they buy newborn chicks by
the thousands and˙ release them inside the barns where there is feed,
water and heat lamps. The chicks are free to wander, eat, drink and
shit. When they get to the point where they aren't growing enough to pay
for the food they are eating they are gathered up and taken to the
slaughter house.˙ After the chickens are gone the barn cleaning crew
arrives with shovels, rakes, brooms and Bobcat type front end loaders to scrape up all that shit. That is when the stink happens.˙ You can smell
it for miles.
On 2026-07-27 3:25 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2026-07-27 12:33 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
Pig farms smell all the time though the big industrial operationsMy son and his family once rented a rural house and they had to
store the shit in huge covered tanks. Back in late 70s I was working
in Fort Erie and drove past a pig farm on my way to and from work.
That was the days of roll up windows.˙ I used to have to remind
myself to roll my windows up before I got to the pig farm. If I
forgot and got to the pig farm with the windows down it filled my
vehicle with that horrible stink and I would have to leave them down
for at least 10 miles to air it out. Horrible m stuff.
buy drinking water as the local pig farms had contaminated the
groundwater by putting excessive pig shit on the fields.us
Farmer John who owns the tree nursery behind uses cow manure. We can
barely smell unless we are walking back there. Once in a while when
driving in even more rural areas I come across a pig˙ manure spreading operation. It's quite a production. They bring the liquid manure in
tanker trailers and transfer it to big bladders and then transfer it
from the bladder to a tractor drawn tank
On 2026-07-27 2:34 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-07-27 3:25 p.m., Graham wrote:I understand that in some operations like that, the shit is injected
On 2026-07-27 12:33 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
Pig farms smell all the time though the big industrial operationsMy son and his family once rented a rural house and they had to
store the shit in huge covered tanks. Back in late 70s I was working
in Fort Erie and drove past a pig farm on my way to and from work.
That was the days of roll up windows.˙ I used to have to remind
myself to roll my windows up before I got to the pig farm. If I
forgot and got to the pig farm with the windows down it filled my
vehicle with that horrible stink and I would have to leave them down
for at least 10 miles to air it out. Horrible m stuff.
buy drinking water as the local pig farms had contaminated the
groundwater by putting excessive pig shit on the fields.us
Farmer John who owns the tree nursery behind uses cow manure. We can
barely smell unless we are walking back there. Once in a while when
driving in even more rural areas I come across a pig˙ manure spreading
operation. It's quite a production. They bring the liquid manure in
tanker trailers and transfer it to big bladders and then transfer it
from the bladder to a tractor drawn tank
into the ground.
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 16:12:51 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 03:09:22 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for meat >> >and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of starvation.That's bizarre logic. Do you really think all those cows would be
Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat and reproduce. >>
there waiting to be slaughtered if youse weren't going to eat them
all?
Do you think cows, deer, moose, goats, etc. would hold a meeting and all >agreed not to breed as they know they'd starve to death due to over grazing? >In the wild there are predators such as wolves, mountain lions, and bears >that help keep the wild herds under control and prevent over grazing. In >the settled areas there are farms and ranches that keep the domestic animals >under control and benefit from the products those animals produce while alive
and after death.
So in short, you say: It's a good thing we eat cows, otherwise there
would be way too many of them.
But the truth is: The reason why there are so many cows is that we
breed them because we eat them.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 16:12:51 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 03:09:22 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered for meat >>>>> and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of starvation. >>>>> Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is eat and reproduce. >>>>That's bizarre logic. Do you really think all those cows would be
there waiting to be slaughtered if youse weren't going to eat them
all?
Do you think cows, deer, moose, goats, etc. would hold a meeting and all >>> agreed not to breed as they know they'd starve to death due to over grazing?
In the wild there are predators such as wolves, mountain lions, and bears >>> that help keep the wild herds under control and prevent over grazing. In >>> the settled areas there are farms and ranches that keep the domestic animals
under control and benefit from the products those animals produce while alive
and after death.
So in short, you say: It's a good thing we eat cows, otherwise there
would be way too many of them.
But the truth is: The reason why there are so many cows is that we
breed them because we eat them.
And they sure are tasty with their different cuts of meat. ?
Let's not forget the production of milk and all the products derived
from that tasty moo juice.
~
On 2026-07-27 4:36 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2026-07-27 2:34 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
Farmer John who owns the tree nursery behind uses cow manure. We canI understand that in some operations like that, the shit is injected
barely smell unless we are walking back there. Once in a while when
driving in even more rural areas I come across a pig˙ manure
spreading operation. It's quite a production. They bring the liquid
manure in tanker trailers and transfer it to big bladders and then
transfer it from the bladder to a tractor drawn tank
into the ground.
Yes it is, and it still stinks. Not quite as bad, but still pretty nasty.
I had a friend who bought a place not too far from here. He came from a Dutch farming family and one of the first things he did when spring came along was to dig up a vegetable garden.˙ He dug a trench and put fresh chicken shit in it, covered it up and then planted asparagus and
raspberries over it. He had a crop of asparagus the first year. He said
that the chicken shit is so nasty that things grow quickly trying to get away from it.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 16:12:51 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Do you think cows, deer, moose, goats, etc. would hold a meeting and all
agreed not to breed as they know they'd starve to death due to over grazing?
In the wild there are predators such as wolves, mountain lions, and bears >> >that help keep the wild herds under control and prevent over grazing. In >> >the settled areas there are farms and ranches that keep the domestic animals
under control and benefit from the products those animals produce while alive
and after death.
So in short, you say: It's a good thing we eat cows, otherwise there
would be way too many of them.
But the truth is: The reason why there are so many cows is that we
breed them because we eat them.
And they sure are tasty with their different cuts of meat. ?
Let's not forget the production of milk and all the products derived
from that tasty moo juice.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 7/27/2026 6:25 PM:
I'm sure our Master is a strict vegan and would not touch any product of
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
So in short, you say: It's a good thing we eat cows, otherwise there
would be way too many of them.
But the truth is: The reason why there are so many cows is that we
breed them because we eat them.
And they sure are tasty with their different cuts of meat. ?
Let's not forget the production of milk and all the products derived
from that tasty moo juice.
any mammals.
He even feels guilty eating fish, but hasn't obtained the courage to
abstain yet.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 16:12:51 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 03:09:22 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not
slaughtered for meat and other by-products they would
overpopulate and die of starvation. Animals know nothing of
birth control, all they do is eat and reproduce.
That's bizarre logic. Do you really think all those cows would be
there waiting to be slaughtered if youse weren't going to eat
them all?
Do you think cows, deer, moose, goats, etc. would hold a meeting
and all agreed not to breed as they know they'd starve to death
due to over grazing? In the wild there are predators such as
wolves, mountain lions, and bears that help keep the wild herds
under control and prevent over grazing. In the settled areas
there are farms and ranches that keep the domestic animals under
control and benefit from the products those animals produce while
alive and after death.
So in short, you say: It's a good thing we eat cows, otherwise there
would be way too many of them.
But the truth is: The reason why there are so many cows is that we
breed them because we eat them.
And they sure are tasty with their different cuts of meat. ?
Let's not forget the production of milk and all the products derived
from that tasty moo juice.
~
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bed. The bonus is that they can put
it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for cooking.
On 2026-07-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bed. The bonus is that they can put
it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for cooking.
Or, you can just heat up a cowpie and have it for dinner.
On 2026-07-28 9:54 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2026-07-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bed. The bonus is that they can put >>> it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for cooking. >>Or, you can just heat up a cowpie and have it for dinner.
There is a road around the corner from us called Pancake Lane.
Apparently it is named for the polite euphemism for cow shit from when
it was the lane along which the local farmers dove their cattle.
But the truth is: The reason why there are so many cows is that we
breed them because we eat them.
On 2026-07-27, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
But the truth is: The reason why there are so many cows is that we
breed them because we eat them.
Which brings up the deep, deep philosophical question.
Would you like to be alive for a little while or never been born at all?
On 2026-07-28 9:54 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2026-07-27, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
It's cow shit. It doesn't smell that bed. The bonus is that they can put >>> it in gardens for fertilizer or they can dry it out and use it for
cooking.
Or, you can just heat up a cowpie and have it for dinner.
There is a road around the corner from us called Pancake Lane.
Apparently it is named for the polite euphemism for cow shit from when
it was the lane along which the local farmers dove their cattle.
On 29 Jul 2026 02:08:42 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-27, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
But the truth is: The reason why there are so many cows is that we
breed them because we eat them.
Which brings up the deep, deep philosophical question.
Would you like to be alive for a little while or never been born at all?
If I'm never born, I won't be suffering either.
But what surprises me the most is that Joan thinks we're doing the
planet a favour by eating all these animals that would otherwise
overpopulate the planet.
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On 29 Jul 2026 02:08:42 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-07-27, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:
But the truth is: The reason why there are so many cows is that we
breed them because we eat them.
Which brings up the deep, deep philosophical question.
Would you like to be alive for a little while or never been born at all?
If I'm never born, I won't be suffering either.
But what surprises me the most is that Joan thinks we're doing the
planet a favour by eating all these animals that would otherwise
overpopulate the planet.
You'd rather see them starve to death for lack of grazing area than eat >them??
You'd rather see them starve to death for lack of grazing area than
eat them??
But all those animals wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the food
industry.
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:17:54 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:44:37 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. Dessert was a raspberry >>>> rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
I never understand why people eat cake after they've just eaten.
Take notice of that first word in the second sentence. D e s s e r t.
I know what that word means, but my question remains: why eat cake
when you're already as full as you'll be that day, unless the doctor
told you that you need to gain weight.
On 7/26/2026 10:29 PM, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:17:54 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:44:37 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill. Dessert was a raspberry >>>>> rhubarb cheese cake for me and a gluten free chocolate caramel square for her.
I never understand why people eat cake after they've just eaten.
Take notice of that first word in the second sentence. D e s s e r t.
I know what that word means, but my question remains: why eat cake
when you're already as full as you'll be that day, unless the doctor
told you that you need to gain weight.
How do you know anyone is already full after eating dinner? You're once >again making assumptions that everyone stuffs themself with the main
meal and has no room for anything else.
On 7/26/2026 10:29 PM, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:17:54 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
I know what that word means, but my question remains: why eat cake
when you're already as full as you'll be that day, unless the doctor
told you that you need to gain weight.
How do you know anyone is already full after eating dinner?˙ You're once again making assumptions that everyone stuffs themself with the main
meal and has no room for anything else.
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