• Re: Test

    From Leonard Blaisdell@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 25, 2026 02:06:12
    On 2026-07-23, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    EdP <esp@snet.net> posted:

    Computers are fun sometimes, like now


    No trouble seeing your post on my end.

    Last week I bought a new 16 gig laptop and once or twice I had tried to
    print something and it was a no go. Well dummy, you've got to add that printer in 'Devices.' ÿ?

    One or two other anomalies I had to figure out as well.


    I think that all the computer companies are monkeying with their
    hardware and software, in order to welcome in AI. I've certainly seen
    changes (glitches?) with my Apple products in the last year or two.
    They're not hard to fix...or get used to it...or upgrade your system!
    Life marches on.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 25, 2026 12:14:21
    On 25 Jul 2026 02:06:12 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2026-07-23, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    EdP <esp@snet.net> posted:

    Computers are fun sometimes, like now

    No trouble seeing your post on my end.

    Last week I bought a new 16 gig laptop and once or twice I had tried to
    print something and it was a no go. Well dummy, you've got to add that
    printer in 'Devices.' ÿ?

    One or two other anomalies I had to figure out as well.

    I think that all the computer companies are monkeying with their
    hardware and software, in order to welcome in AI. I've certainly seen
    changes (glitches?) with my Apple products in the last year or two.
    They're not hard to fix...or get used to it...or upgrade your system!
    Life marches on.

    I had AI write 2 Powershell scripts for me. Every addition or
    complication I think of, it creates in 5 seconds. It works 1000 times
    faster than a human programmer and it does it for free. Of course, it
    still needs to be told clearly what you want it to do. But it's
    absolutely brilliant.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Cindy Hamilton@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 25, 2026 09:51:30
    On 2026-07-25, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I had AI write 2 Powershell scripts for me. Every addition or
    complication I think of, it creates in 5 seconds. It works 1000 times
    faster than a human programmer and it does it for free. Of course, it
    still needs to be told clearly what you want it to do. But it's
    absolutely brilliant.

    That doesn't sound like very much fun. The joy of solving puzzles
    is part of the reason I became a programmer.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 25, 2026 20:09:53
    On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 09:51:30 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-07-25, Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I had AI write 2 Powershell scripts for me. Every addition or
    complication I think of, it creates in 5 seconds. It works 1000 times
    faster than a human programmer and it does it for free. Of course, it
    still needs to be told clearly what you want it to do. But it's
    absolutely brilliant.

    That doesn't sound like very much fun. The joy of solving puzzles
    is part of the reason I became a programmer.

    I was a computer programmer once, or a "software engineer" according
    to the company. Now I'm just a user. I can see why programmers fear
    for their jobs these days. But you still have to tell AI what it has
    to do. Having been a programmer makes that communication easier, I
    think.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Minden@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 25, 2026 14:57:38
    On 25 Jul 2026 02:06:12 GMT
    Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2026-07-23, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net
    <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    EdP <esp@snet.net> posted:

    Computers are fun sometimes, like now


    No trouble seeing your post on my end.

    Last week I bought a new 16 gig laptop and once or twice I had
    tried to print something and it was a no go. Well dummy, you've
    got to add that printer in 'Devices.' ÿ?

    One or two other anomalies I had to figure out as well.


    I think that all the computer companies are monkeying with their
    hardware and software, in order to welcome in AI. I've certainly seen
    changes (glitches?) with my Apple products in the last year or two.
    They're not hard to fix...or get used to it...or upgrade your system!
    Life marches on.

    Didja catch how all these new AI data centers are named after fallen
    angels and Greek gods?

    https://www.thewisewolf.club/p/billionaires-are-naming-ai-data-centers-afte r-demons-but-why


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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From dsi1@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 20:48:56

    EdP <esp@snet.net> posted:

    Computers are fun sometimes, like now

    Things are only going to get even fun-er and fun-er. It's gonna be so much fun we
    won't know what to do with ourselves. The superintelligence will certainly know
    how to deal with us. We will be as gods and create the true superior race on this
    planet. We might be extinct but that's really a small price to pay for our most stunning achievement.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHXfMjp2zqI

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Data_Center


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Hank Rogers@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 17:43:16
    dsi1 wrote on 7/27/2026 3:48 PM:

    EdP <esp@snet.net> posted:

    Computers are fun sometimes, like now

    Things are only going to get even fun-er and fun-er. It's gonna be so much fun we
    won't know what to do with ourselves. The superintelligence will certainly know
    how to deal with us. We will be as gods and create the true superior race on this
    planet.

    It's already been done, Uncle. Bruce posted an ordered list of your
    racial preferences a few days ago. We all agree with him, so there is
    no need for yoose to get pissy Uncle.

    Aloha



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ed P@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 27, 2026 19:00:30
    On 7/27/2026 4:48 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    EdP <esp@snet.net> posted:

    Computers are fun sometimes, like now

    Things are only going to get even fun-er and fun-er. It's gonna be so much fun we
    won't know what to do with ourselves. The superintelligence will certainly know
    how to deal with us. We will be as gods and create the true superior race on this
    planet. We might be extinct but that's really a small price to pay for our most
    stunning achievement.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHXfMjp2zqI

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Data_Center


    I have a desktop and two laptops and all three had an issue. One of the laptops went dead. Just nothing. Black screen no life. Two hours
    later, it was working again and has since. No idea why.

    The desktop is not used a lot and by today's standards is a bit slow,
    but tolerable. Writing a letter, the keyboard stopped working in the
    middle of a word. OK, maybe the batteries. Nope. Nothing worked but
    they did for a few minutes, then nothing.

    Not sure if it was the keyboard or something else, I bought a new
    Logitech keyboard. I'm amazed at what I got for $19. Wireless
    keyboard, mouse, and the USB pickup. Even included batteries. Plugged
    in the USB and it works.

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to the
    USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would cost about $100
    if made here. That assumes we can get enough illegal aliens to staff the manufacturing outfit.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 09:43:35
    On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 19:00:30 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 7/27/2026 4:48 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    Things are only going to get even fun-er and fun-er. It's gonna be so much fun we
    won't know what to do with ourselves. The superintelligence will certainly know
    how to deal with us. We will be as gods and create the true superior race on this
    planet. We might be extinct but that's really a small price to pay for our most
    stunning achievement.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHXfMjp2zqI

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Data_Center

    I have a desktop and two laptops and all three had an issue. One of the >laptops went dead. Just nothing. Black screen no life. Two hours
    later, it was working again and has since. No idea why.

    The desktop is not used a lot and by today's standards is a bit slow,
    but tolerable. Writing a letter, the keyboard stopped working in the
    middle of a word. OK, maybe the batteries. Nope. Nothing worked but
    they did for a few minutes, then nothing.

    Not sure if it was the keyboard or something else, I bought a new
    Logitech keyboard. I'm amazed at what I got for $19. Wireless
    keyboard, mouse, and the USB pickup. Even included batteries. Plugged
    in the USB and it works.

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to the
    USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would cost about $100
    if made here. That assumes we can get enough illegal aliens to staff the >manufacturing outfit.

    He's making life more expensive for Americans in various ways. I guess
    he needs these import taxes to finance his never ending war against
    Iran.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From dsi1@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 02:03:10

    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 7/27/2026 4:48 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    EdP <esp@snet.net> posted:

    Computers are fun sometimes, like now

    Things are only going to get even fun-er and fun-er. It's gonna be so much fun we
    won't know what to do with ourselves. The superintelligence will certainly know
    how to deal with us. We will be as gods and create the true superior race on this
    planet. We might be extinct but that's really a small price to pay for our most
    stunning achievement.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHXfMjp2zqI

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Data_Center


    I have a desktop and two laptops and all three had an issue. One of the laptops went dead. Just nothing. Black screen no life. Two hours
    later, it was working again and has since. No idea why.

    The desktop is not used a lot and by today's standards is a bit slow,
    but tolerable. Writing a letter, the keyboard stopped working in the
    middle of a word. OK, maybe the batteries. Nope. Nothing worked but
    they did for a few minutes, then nothing.

    Not sure if it was the keyboard or something else, I bought a new
    Logitech keyboard. I'm amazed at what I got for $19. Wireless
    keyboard, mouse, and the USB pickup. Even included batteries. Plugged
    in the USB and it works.

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to the
    USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would cost about $100
    if made here. That assumes we can get enough illegal aliens to staff the manufacturing outfit.

    Americans should take a lesson from the Hawaiian way of doing business. Import a shitload of people from depressed areas of the world and exploit the very life
    out of them. In this way, America shall once again become competitive.
    I have a guitar that's made in Vietnam. It's beautiful and dirt cheap. Who knew?

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/miaUEKyAPH14y1w88







    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 13:01:34
    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 02:03:10 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    I have a desktop and two laptops and all three had an issue. One of the
    laptops went dead. Just nothing. Black screen no life. Two hours
    later, it was working again and has since. No idea why.

    The desktop is not used a lot and by today's standards is a bit slow,
    but tolerable. Writing a letter, the keyboard stopped working in the
    middle of a word. OK, maybe the batteries. Nope. Nothing worked but
    they did for a few minutes, then nothing.

    Not sure if it was the keyboard or something else, I bought a new
    Logitech keyboard. I'm amazed at what I got for $19. Wireless
    keyboard, mouse, and the USB pickup. Even included batteries. Plugged
    in the USB and it works.

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to the
    USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would cost about $100
    if made here. That assumes we can get enough illegal aliens to staff the
    manufacturing outfit.

    Americans should take a lesson from the Hawaiian way of doing business. Import
    a shitload of people from depressed areas of the world and exploit the very life
    out of them.

    You're critical of Hawaii! I didn't think you had it in you.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clawed Dallas@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 10:40:21
    On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 19:00:30 -0400
    Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to the
    USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would cost about
    $100 if made here. That assumes we can get enough illegal aliens to
    staff the manufacturing outfit.

    Status quo non patriotism noted.

    How the fuck do you think we became the United states of Wal Mart bro?


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clawed Dallas@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 10:47:33
    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 02:03:10 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 7/27/2026 4:48 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    EdP <esp@snet.net> posted:

    Computers are fun sometimes, like now

    Things are only going to get even fun-er and fun-er. It's gonna
    be so much fun we won't know what to do with ourselves. The superintelligence will certainly know how to deal with us. We
    will be as gods and create the true superior race on this planet.
    We might be extinct but that's really a small price to pay for
    our most stunning achievement.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHXfMjp2zqI

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Data_Center


    I have a desktop and two laptops and all three had an issue. One
    of the laptops went dead. Just nothing. Black screen no life.
    Two hours later, it was working again and has since. No idea why.

    The desktop is not used a lot and by today's standards is a bit
    slow, but tolerable. Writing a letter, the keyboard stopped
    working in the middle of a word. OK, maybe the batteries. Nope.
    Nothing worked but they did for a few minutes, then nothing.

    Not sure if it was the keyboard or something else, I bought a new
    Logitech keyboard. I'm amazed at what I got for $19. Wireless
    keyboard, mouse, and the USB pickup. Even included batteries.
    Plugged in the USB and it works.

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to
    the USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would cost
    about $100 if made here. That assumes we can get enough illegal
    aliens to staff the manufacturing outfit.

    Americans should take a lesson from the Hawaiian way of doing
    business. Import a shitload of people from depressed areas of the
    world and exploit the very life out of them. In this way, America
    shall once again become competitive.

    Works for Jina...and they have plenty of depressed areas to draw labor
    from.

    What if...what if...we designated and incented our own
    struggling urban areas and rural poverty zones as economic revival
    sites?

    Screw data centers, bring back domestic production and manufacturing on
    a grass roots basis.


    I have a guitar that's made in
    Vietnam. It's beautiful and dirt cheap. Who knew?

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/miaUEKyAPH14y1w88

    Leo Fender did when they went to Japanese made Teles.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Fender-decide-to-stop-U-S-production-temporar ily-and-start-importing-Japanese-made-guitars-in-the-early-eighties

    In 1985, nearly every new Fender guitar sold worldwide was made in Japan. I
    t wasn't a corporate scheme to offshore labor?the iconic American b
    rand literally no longer owned a factory.

    The crisis had been decades in the making. In 1965, CBS purchased Fender an
    d shifted the company's focus toward mass production. Through the 1970s, qu ality control plummeted. The machinery at Fender's Fullerton, California pl
    ant wore out, resulting in sloppy neck joints, while the use of thick polyu rethane finishes and heavy ash bodies strayed from the lightweight, resonan
    t instruments of the 1950s.

    While Fender's American output suffered, Japanese manufacturers like Tokai
    and Greco began producing exact replicas of vintage Fenders. These guitars were built with a level of craftsmanship that CBS-era Fender could no longe
    r match, stealing the company's market share.

    In 1981, CBS brought in new management, led by Bill Schultz and Dan Smith,
    to turn the company around. They recognized they could not beat the Japanes
    e competitors using the dilapidated Fullerton facility. Instead, they joine
    d them. In 1982, Fender partnered with FujiGen Gakki to establish Fender Ja pan. The first instruments they produced?the JV (Japanese Vintage)
    series?were so well-made that Dan Smith later stated they brought h
    im to tears, realizing the overseas partner was outperforming Fender's own American factory.

    In 1984, CBS decided to exit the musical instrument business. Schultz led a
    n investor group to purchase Fender the following year for $12.5 million. T
    he deal included the brand name, patents, and leftover parts, but it did no
    t include the Fullerton factory or its outdated machinery.

    When the sale finalized in 1985, the newly formed Fender Musical Instrument
    s Corporation had zero manufacturing capacity in the United States. While S chultz's team scrambled to finance and build a new, modern facility from sc ratch in Corona, California, Fender Japan became the company's sole lifelin
    e. FujiGen Gakki took over nearly all production, supplying the global mark
    et with high-quality models like the Contemporary Stratocaster until the Co rona plant began significant output in late 1986.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Clawed Dallas@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 10:55:02
    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 13:01:34 +1000
    Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 02:03:10 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    I have a desktop and two laptops and all three had an issue. One
    of the laptops went dead. Just nothing. Black screen no life.
    Two hours later, it was working again and has since. No idea why.

    The desktop is not used a lot and by today's standards is a bit
    slow, but tolerable. Writing a letter, the keyboard stopped
    working in the middle of a word. OK, maybe the batteries. Nope.
    Nothing worked but they did for a few minutes, then nothing.

    Not sure if it was the keyboard or something else, I bought a new
    Logitech keyboard. I'm amazed at what I got for $19. Wireless
    keyboard, mouse, and the USB pickup. Even included batteries.
    Plugged in the USB and it works.

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to
    the USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would cost
    about $100 if made here. That assumes we can get enough illegal
    aliens to staff the manufacturing outfit.

    Americans should take a lesson from the Hawaiian way of doing
    business. Import a shitload of people from depressed areas of the
    world and exploit the very life out of them.

    You're critical of Hawaii! I didn't think you had it in you.


    Because you edit him down to what you need to attack him with, not for
    the actual content of his observations.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From dsi1@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 22:24:13

    Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 02:03:10 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    I have a desktop and two laptops and all three had an issue. One of the >> laptops went dead. Just nothing. Black screen no life. Two hours
    later, it was working again and has since. No idea why.

    The desktop is not used a lot and by today's standards is a bit slow,
    but tolerable. Writing a letter, the keyboard stopped working in the
    middle of a word. OK, maybe the batteries. Nope. Nothing worked but
    they did for a few minutes, then nothing.

    Not sure if it was the keyboard or something else, I bought a new
    Logitech keyboard. I'm amazed at what I got for $19. Wireless
    keyboard, mouse, and the USB pickup. Even included batteries. Plugged >> in the USB and it works.

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to the
    USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would cost about $100 >> if made here. That assumes we can get enough illegal aliens to staff the >> manufacturing outfit.

    Americans should take a lesson from the Hawaiian way of doing business. Import
    a shitload of people from depressed areas of the world and exploit the very life
    out of them.

    You're critical of Hawaii! I didn't think you had it in you.


    I'm not critical of Hawaii. I do have a problem with the rich people in power that have exploited workers/immigrants. Most people on this rock feel the same way. The people of Hawaii are keenly aware that we're mostly descendants of immigrants even as most Americans have forgotten their origins. The result of this is that the unions here are powerful and Hawaii has been ranked as being the worst state in the USA for business. I'm not being critical of anything - just stating the facts.






    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 29, 2026 09:06:50
    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 22:24:13 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 02:03:10 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Americans should take a lesson from the Hawaiian way of doing business. Import
    a shitload of people from depressed areas of the world and exploit the very life
    out of them.

    You're critical of Hawaii! I didn't think you had it in you.

    I'm not critical of Hawaii. I do have a problem with the rich people in power >that have exploited workers/immigrants.

    I agree. Those immigrants must have come from real hell holes if they
    thought that being exploited in Hawaii was better than staying where
    they were.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From dsi1@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 23:15:42

    Clawed Dallas <ow@hy.ee> posted:

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 02:03:10 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 7/27/2026 4:48 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    EdP <esp@snet.net> posted:

    Computers are fun sometimes, like now

    Things are only going to get even fun-er and fun-er. It's gonna
    be so much fun we won't know what to do with ourselves. The superintelligence will certainly know how to deal with us. We
    will be as gods and create the true superior race on this planet.
    We might be extinct but that's really a small price to pay for
    our most stunning achievement.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHXfMjp2zqI

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Data_Center


    I have a desktop and two laptops and all three had an issue. One
    of the laptops went dead. Just nothing. Black screen no life.
    Two hours later, it was working again and has since. No idea why.

    The desktop is not used a lot and by today's standards is a bit
    slow, but tolerable. Writing a letter, the keyboard stopped
    working in the middle of a word. OK, maybe the batteries. Nope.
    Nothing worked but they did for a few minutes, then nothing.

    Not sure if it was the keyboard or something else, I bought a new Logitech keyboard. I'm amazed at what I got for $19. Wireless keyboard, mouse, and the USB pickup. Even included batteries.
    Plugged in the USB and it works.

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to
    the USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would cost
    about $100 if made here. That assumes we can get enough illegal
    aliens to staff the manufacturing outfit.

    Americans should take a lesson from the Hawaiian way of doing
    business. Import a shitload of people from depressed areas of the
    world and exploit the very life out of them. In this way, America
    shall once again become competitive.

    Works for Jina...and they have plenty of depressed areas to draw labor
    from.

    What if...what if...we designated and incented our own
    struggling urban areas and rural poverty zones as economic revival
    sites?

    Screw data centers, bring back domestic production and manufacturing on
    a grass roots basis.


    I have a guitar that's made in
    Vietnam. It's beautiful and dirt cheap. Who knew?

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/miaUEKyAPH14y1w88

    Leo Fender did when they went to Japanese made Teles.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Fender-decide-to-stop-U-S-production-temporarily-and-start-importing-Japanese-made-guitars-in-the-early-eighties

    In 1985, nearly every new Fender guitar sold worldwide was made in Japan. It wasn't a corporate scheme to offshore labor?the iconic American brand literally no longer owned a factory.

    The crisis had been decades in the making. In 1965, CBS purchased Fender and shifted the company's focus toward mass production. Through the 1970s, quality control plummeted. The machinery at Fender's Fullerton, California plant wore out, resulting in sloppy neck joints, while the use of thick polyurethane finishes and heavy ash bodies strayed from the lightweight, resonant instruments of the 1950s.

    While Fender's American output suffered, Japanese manufacturers like Tokai and Greco began producing exact replicas of vintage Fenders. These guitars were built with a level of craftsmanship that CBS-era Fender could no longer match, stealing the company's market share.

    In 1981, CBS brought in new management, led by Bill Schultz and Dan Smith, to turn the company around. They recognized they could not beat the Japanese competitors using the dilapidated Fullerton facility. Instead, they joined them. In 1982, Fender partnered with FujiGen Gakki to establish Fender Japan. The first instruments they produced?the JV (Japanese Vintage) series?were so well-made that Dan Smith later stated they brought him to tears, realizing the overseas partner was outperforming Fender's own American factory.

    In 1984, CBS decided to exit the musical instrument business. Schultz led an investor group to purchase Fender the following year for $12.5 million. The deal included the brand name, patents, and leftover parts, but it did not include the Fullerton factory or its outdated machinery.

    When the sale finalized in 1985, the newly formed Fender Musical Instruments Corporation had zero manufacturing capacity in the United States. While Schultz's team scrambled to finance and build a new, modern facility from scratch in Corona, California, Fender Japan became the company's sole lifeline. FujiGen Gakki took over nearly all production, supplying the global market with high-quality models like the Contemporary Stratocaster until the Corona plant began significant output in late 1986.



    The guitar world is pretty much in upheaval due to the influx of Chinese made instruments. I don't think I've bought an American made guitar in over a decade.
    The last two guitars that I got were Chinese made carbon fiber guitars. These are
    extremely stable and lightweight guitars. The reality is that wood is a lousy material to construct a guitar but I can't say what's going to happen to the build
    in the next 50 or so years.

    Oddly enough, Fender is owned by this company:

    https://www.servco.com/


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  • From Clawed Dallas@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 22:16:30
    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 22:24:13 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 02:03:10 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    I have a desktop and two laptops and all three had an issue.
    One of the laptops went dead. Just nothing. Black screen no
    life. Two hours later, it was working again and has since. No
    idea why.

    The desktop is not used a lot and by today's standards is a bit
    slow, but tolerable. Writing a letter, the keyboard stopped
    working in the middle of a word. OK, maybe the batteries.
    Nope. Nothing worked but they did for a few minutes, then
    nothing.

    Not sure if it was the keyboard or something else, I bought a
    new Logitech keyboard. I'm amazed at what I got for $19.
    Wireless keyboard, mouse, and the USB pickup. Even included
    batteries. Plugged in the USB and it works.

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to
    the USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would
    cost about $100 if made here. That assumes we can get enough
    illegal aliens to staff the manufacturing outfit.

    Americans should take a lesson from the Hawaiian way of doing
    business. Import a shitload of people from depressed areas of the
    world and exploit the very life out of them.

    You're critical of Hawaii! I didn't think you had it in you.


    I'm not critical of Hawaii. I do have a problem with the rich people
    in power that have exploited workers/immigrants. Most people on this
    rock feel the same way. The people of Hawaii are keenly aware that
    we're mostly descendants of immigrants even as most Americans have
    forgotten their origins. The result of this is that the unions here
    are powerful and Hawaii has been ranked as being the worst state in
    the USA for business. I'm not being critical of anything - just
    stating the facts.





    +1


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  • From Clawed Dallas@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 22:21:01
    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 23:15:42 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Clawed Dallas <ow@hy.ee> posted:

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 02:03:10 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 7/27/2026 4:48 PM, dsi1 wrote:

    EdP <esp@snet.net> posted:

    Computers are fun sometimes, like now

    Things are only going to get even fun-er and fun-er. It's
    gonna be so much fun we won't know what to do with ourselves.
    The superintelligence will certainly know how to deal with
    us. We will be as gods and create the true superior race on
    this planet. We might be extinct but that's really a small
    price to pay for our most stunning achievement.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHXfMjp2zqI

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Data_Center


    I have a desktop and two laptops and all three had an issue.
    One of the laptops went dead. Just nothing. Black screen no
    life. Two hours later, it was working again and has since. No
    idea why.

    The desktop is not used a lot and by today's standards is a bit
    slow, but tolerable. Writing a letter, the keyboard stopped
    working in the middle of a word. OK, maybe the batteries.
    Nope. Nothing worked but they did for a few minutes, then
    nothing.

    Not sure if it was the keyboard or something else, I bought a
    new Logitech keyboard. I'm amazed at what I got for $19.
    Wireless keyboard, mouse, and the USB pickup. Even included
    batteries. Plugged in the USB and it works.

    Trump is putting tariffs on stuff to bring manufacturing back to
    the USA. Sounds good, but my made in Vietnam keyboard would
    cost about $100 if made here. That assumes we can get enough
    illegal aliens to staff the manufacturing outfit.

    Americans should take a lesson from the Hawaiian way of doing
    business. Import a shitload of people from depressed areas of the
    world and exploit the very life out of them. In this way, America
    shall once again become competitive.

    Works for Jina...and they have plenty of depressed areas to draw
    labor from.

    What if...what if...we designated and incented our own
    struggling urban areas and rural poverty zones as economic revival
    sites?

    Screw data centers, bring back domestic production and
    manufacturing on a grass roots basis.


    I have a guitar that's made in
    Vietnam. It's beautiful and dirt cheap. Who knew?

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/miaUEKyAPH14y1w88

    Leo Fender did when they went to Japanese made Teles.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Fender-decide-to-stop-U-S-production-temp
    orarily-and-start-importing-Japanese-made-guitars-in-the-early-eighties

    In 1985, nearly every new Fender guitar sold worldwide was made in
    Japan. It wasn't a corporate scheme to offshore labor?the iconic
    American brand literally no longer owned a factory.

    The crisis had been decades in the making. In 1965, CBS purchased
    Fender and shifted the company's focus toward mass production.
    Through the 1970s, quality control plummeted. The machinery at
    Fender's Fullerton, California plant wore out, resulting in sloppy
    neck joints, while the use of thick polyurethane finishes and heavy
    ash bodies strayed from the lightweight, resonant instruments of
    the 1950s.

    While Fender's American output suffered, Japanese manufacturers
    like Tokai and Greco began producing exact replicas of vintage
    Fenders. These guitars were built with a level of craftsmanship
    that CBS-era Fender could no longer match, stealing the company's
    market share.

    In 1981, CBS brought in new management, led by Bill Schultz and Dan
    Smith, to turn the company around. They recognized they could not
    beat the Japanese competitors using the dilapidated Fullerton
    facility. Instead, they joined them. In 1982, Fender partnered with
    FujiGen Gakki to establish Fender Japan. The first instruments they produced?the JV (Japanese Vintage) series?were so well-
    made that
    Dan Smith later stated they brought him to tears, realizing the
    overseas partner was outperforming Fender's own American factory.

    In 1984, CBS decided to exit the musical instrument business.
    Schultz led an investor group to purchase Fender the following year
    for $12.5 million. The deal included the brand name, patents, and
    leftover parts, but it did not include the Fullerton factory or its outdated machinery.

    When the sale finalized in 1985, the newly formed Fender Musical Instruments Corporation had zero manufacturing capacity in the
    United States. While Schultz's team scrambled to finance and build
    a new, modern facility from scratch in Corona, California, Fender
    Japan became the company's sole lifeline. FujiGen Gakki took over
    nearly all production, supplying the global market with
    high-quality models like the Contemporary Stratocaster until the
    Corona plant began significant output in late 1986.



    The guitar world is pretty much in upheaval due to the influx of
    Chinese made instruments. I don't think I've bought an American made
    guitar in over a decade. The last two guitars that I got were Chinese
    made carbon fiber guitars. These are extremely stable and lightweight guitars. The reality is that wood is a lousy material to construct a
    guitar but I can't say what's going to happen to the build in the
    next 50 or so years.

    Oddly enough, Fender is owned by this company:

    https://www.servco.com/


    WTF!@!

    &-0


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  • From dsi1@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 31, 2026 20:35:19

    Clawed Dallas <ow@hy.ee> posted:

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 23:15:42 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:



    The guitar world is pretty much in upheaval due to the influx of
    Chinese made instruments. I don't think I've bought an American made
    guitar in over a decade. The last two guitars that I got were Chinese
    made carbon fiber guitars. These are extremely stable and lightweight guitars. The reality is that wood is a lousy material to construct a
    guitar but I can't say what's going to happen to the build in the
    next 50 or so years.

    Oddly enough, Fender is owned by this company:

    https://www.servco.com/


    WTF!@!

    &-0


    Fender came out with manufacturing guitar using modular components back in the 50's. It was a brilliant idea and made the company famous. They recently have tried to stop other companies from using their designs/ideas that have been around for 70 years. Fender's use of the legal system to force companies to cease and desist making guitars have caused a huge backlash against them from the guitar/music community. It hasn't been a good year for Fender. I've got a Fender guitar that's pretty awesome but the great thing about that style of guitar is you can put one together as easily as you can put together a desktop computer i.e., using a vast array of components from many manufacturers.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/R7mGpFgFSRJgho4i8









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  • From Conley's Elms@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 31, 2026 14:50:17
    On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 20:35:19 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Clawed Dallas <ow@hy.ee> posted:

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 23:15:42 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:



    The guitar world is pretty much in upheaval due to the influx of
    Chinese made instruments. I don't think I've bought an American
    made guitar in over a decade. The last two guitars that I got
    were Chinese made carbon fiber guitars. These are extremely
    stable and lightweight guitars. The reality is that wood is a
    lousy material to construct a guitar but I can't say what's going
    to happen to the build in the next 50 or so years.

    Oddly enough, Fender is owned by this company:

    https://www.servco.com/


    WTF!@!

    &-0


    Fender came out with manufacturing guitar using modular components
    back in the 50's. It was a brilliant idea and made the company
    famous. They recently have tried to stop other companies from using
    their designs/ideas that have been around for 70 years. Fender's use
    of the legal system to force companies to cease and desist making
    guitars have caused a huge backlash against them from the
    guitar/music community. It hasn't been a good year for Fender. I've
    got a Fender guitar that's pretty awesome but the great thing about
    that style of guitar is you can put one together as easily as you can
    put together a desktop computer i.e., using a vast array of
    components from many manufacturers.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/R7mGpFgFSRJgho4i8

    That is the musical instrument world surrendering to Tom's
    Hardware!

    Pray tell- that neck is gorgeous with all the figuring, is it some kind
    of flame maple or swamp ash?



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  • From Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 01, 2026 07:20:51
    On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 20:35:19 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Fender came out with manufacturing guitar using modular components back in the
    50's. It was a brilliant idea and made the company famous. They recently have >tried to stop other companies from using their designs/ideas that have been >around for 70 years. Fender's use of the legal system to force companies to >cease and desist making guitars have caused a huge backlash against them from >the guitar/music community. It hasn't been a good year for Fender. I've got a >Fender guitar that's pretty awesome but the great thing about that style of >guitar is you can put one together as easily as you can put together a desktop
    computer i.e., using a vast array of components from many manufacturers.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/R7mGpFgFSRJgho4i8

    Yes, you love your guitars. Unfortunately, this is more suited for
    newsgroup rec.dad.rock.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

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  • From dsi1@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 01, 2026 00:18:08

    Conley's Elms <le@ida.hero> posted:

    That is the musical instrument world surrendering to Tom's
    Hardware!

    Pray tell- that neck is gorgeous with all the figuring, is it some kind
    of flame maple or swamp ash?



    The body of the guitar was from a $69 Kramer guitar that I got 20 years ago. The
    neck was a Chinese neck that was covered with a thick polyurethane finish that was
    just awful. A polyurethane finish is tough to remove so I used a propane torch to do the job. It's the fastest way to do it. I probably went a little too hot.
    No matter, burnt wood is beautiful and it's super smooth. It's great!

    The modular nature of Fender's guitar has made it difficult to identify the originality of vintage Fenders. People in the past would just swap the necks and
    other parts back in the 70's, when a Stratocaster was seen as a commodity item.
    An old Strat could easily be had for $150 to $200. These days, a vintage Fender could be valued at $80,000 to $20,000 for original pieces. That's just silly.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/AjuNezbVStjVdKRw6


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  • From dsi1@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 01, 2026 00:28:15

    Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:

    On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 20:35:19 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Fender came out with manufacturing guitar using modular components back in the
    50's. It was a brilliant idea and made the company famous. They recently have
    tried to stop other companies from using their designs/ideas that have been >around for 70 years. Fender's use of the legal system to force companies to >cease and desist making guitars have caused a huge backlash against them from
    the guitar/music community. It hasn't been a good year for Fender. I've got a
    Fender guitar that's pretty awesome but the great thing about that style of >guitar is you can put one together as easily as you can put together a desktop
    computer i.e., using a vast array of components from many manufacturers.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/R7mGpFgFSRJgho4i8

    Yes, you love your guitars. Unfortunately, this is more suited for
    newsgroup rec.dad.rock.


    People like you always try to tell people like me how we should live. You just can't help it. OTOH, rec.dad.rock sounds like my kind of group.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/SjnJ2AS3jPa82jScA



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  • From Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 01, 2026 10:36:10
    On Sat, 01 Aug 2026 00:28:15 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:

    On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 20:35:19 GMT, dsi1
    <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Fender came out with manufacturing guitar using modular components back in the
    50's. It was a brilliant idea and made the company famous. They recently have
    tried to stop other companies from using their designs/ideas that have been
    around for 70 years. Fender's use of the legal system to force companies to
    cease and desist making guitars have caused a huge backlash against them from
    the guitar/music community. It hasn't been a good year for Fender. I've got a
    Fender guitar that's pretty awesome but the great thing about that style of
    guitar is you can put one together as easily as you can put together a desktop
    computer i.e., using a vast array of components from many manufacturers.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/R7mGpFgFSRJgho4i8

    Yes, you love your guitars. Unfortunately, this is more suited for
    newsgroup rec.dad.rock.

    People like you always try to tell people like me how we should live. You just >can't help it. OTOH, rec.dad.rock sounds like my kind of group.

    Ah, I was on the ball!

    --
    Bruce
    <https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

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  • From Conley's Elms@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 31, 2026 22:52:46
    On Sat, 01 Aug 2026 00:18:08 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Conley's Elms <le@ida.hero> posted:

    That is the musical instrument world surrendering to Tom's
    Hardware!

    Pray tell- that neck is gorgeous with all the figuring, is it some
    kind of flame maple or swamp ash?



    The body of the guitar was from a $69 Kramer guitar that I got 20
    years ago. The neck was a Chinese neck that was covered with a thick polyurethane finish that was just awful. A polyurethane finish is
    tough to remove so I used a propane torch to do the job. It's the
    fastest way to do it. I probably went a little too hot. No matter,
    burnt wood is beautiful and it's super smooth. It's great!

    Burnt siding will make a cabin/home fireproof and last a lifetime.

    You re-fretted after the wood burning it looks like, noice work.


    The modular nature of Fender's guitar has made it difficult to
    identify the originality of vintage Fenders. People in the past would
    just swap the necks and other parts back in the 70's, when a
    Stratocaster was seen as a commodity item. An old Strat could easily
    be had for $150 to $200. These days, a vintage Fender could be valued
    at $80,000 to $20,000 for original pieces. That's just silly.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/AjuNezbVStjVdKRw6


    Same as in the custom car/restomod biz.

    Epoxy or urethane finish?



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