• Georgia proposes seriously idiotic voting system

    From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 09:10:27
    California has a challenge from Georgia in the race for the bottom in
    counting ballots!

    My state, for once, is not in on the challenge. Chicago and suburban
    Cook County do use touch-screen ballot-marking devices, but the voter
    gets a paper ballot to review that's literally printed out. It then gets
    fed into a scanner and dropped into the ballot box for the initial
    count. If there is a recount, there are physical ballots to review.

    In Georgia, they allow voting machines with a touch screen that create a
    QR code. There is no physical ballot to review. The QR code gets fed
    into the scanner.

    I really don't understand where the "ballot". On a LAN within the
    polling site?

    After Trump's false accusations in 2020, the state legislature banned
    these devices by July 1, 2026, and then failed to authorize a
    replacement system. They've got a special election coming up for a Congressional district and no authorized system.

    The Secretary of State proposed a regulation that after scanning the QR
    code, the image of the ballot represented by the QR code (or I suspect
    the serial number that the QR code itself represents) will be uploaded.
    The image will then be OCR'd and considered to be the "original" ballot,
    even though it is multiple steps removed from what the voter marked.

    Is this idiotic or what? For whatever reason, southern states keep
    buying voting machines that don't make a paper record.

    https://apnews.com/article/georgia-ballots-qr-codes-legislature-special-session-7197f763b090285a5fc2f471aa374505

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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 06:53:44
    On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 09:10:27 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    California has a challenge from Georgia in the race for the bottom in >counting ballots!


    We're #1!
    We're #1!

    My state, for once, is not in on the challenge. Chicago and suburban
    Cook County do use touch-screen ballot-marking devices, but the voter
    gets a paper ballot to review that's literally printed out. It then gets
    fed into a scanner and dropped into the ballot box for the initial
    count. If there is a recount, there are physical ballots to review.

    In Georgia, they allow voting machines with a touch screen that create a
    QR code. There is no physical ballot to review. The QR code gets fed
    into the scanner.

    I really don't understand where the "ballot". On a LAN within the
    polling site?

    I don't know either. I've avoided voting in person in the last few
    elections.

    After Trump's false accusations in 2020, the state legislature banned
    these devices by July 1, 2026, and then failed to authorize a
    replacement system. They've got a special election coming up for a >Congressional district and no authorized system.

    Why would we need a replacement? Oh we need one to vote with? We'll
    just cook something up over the weekend.

    The Secretary of State proposed a regulation that after scanning the QR
    code, the image of the ballot represented by the QR code (or I suspect
    the serial number that the QR code itself represents) will be uploaded.
    The image will then be OCR'd and considered to be the "original" ballot,
    even though it is multiple steps removed from what the voter marked.

    This sounds... I'm not sure what it sounds like but 'stupid' works.
    It's some sort of rube Goldberg solution that someone might come up
    with during a drunken weekend.

    Is this idiotic or what? For whatever reason, southern states keep
    buying voting machines that don't make a paper record.

    https://apnews.com/article/georgia-ballots-qr-codes-legislature-special-session-7197f763b090285a5fc2f471aa374505

    Who needs a record that could be checked and then challenged.

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  • From NoBody@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 07:20:59
    On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 09:10:27 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    California has a challenge from Georgia in the race for the bottom in >counting ballots!

    My state, for once, is not in on the challenge. Chicago and suburban
    Cook County do use touch-screen ballot-marking devices, but the voter
    gets a paper ballot to review that's literally printed out. It then gets
    fed into a scanner and dropped into the ballot box for the initial
    count. If there is a recount, there are physical ballots to review.

    In Georgia, they allow voting machines with a touch screen that create a
    QR code. There is no physical ballot to review. The QR code gets fed
    into the scanner.

    I really don't understand where the "ballot". On a LAN within the
    polling site?

    After Trump's false accusations in 2020, the state legislature banned
    these devices by July 1, 2026, and then failed to authorize a
    replacement system. They've got a special election coming up for a >Congressional district and no authorized system.

    The Secretary of State proposed a regulation that after scanning the QR
    code, the image of the ballot represented by the QR code (or I suspect
    the serial number that the QR code itself represents) will be uploaded.
    The image will then be OCR'd and considered to be the "original" ballot,
    even though it is multiple steps removed from what the voter marked.

    Is this idiotic or what? For whatever reason, southern states keep
    buying voting machines that don't make a paper record.

    https://apnews.com/article/georgia-ballots-qr-codes-legislature-special-session-7197f763b090285a5fc2f471aa374505

    The reason is simple: It's far easier to manipulate results. Look at California with their ridiculous mail in process. Don't like the
    results of elections day, just wait for the "mail in ballots" to show
    up and maigically the results change. It's happened multiple times
    now.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 07:41:33
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 09:10:27 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    California has a challenge from Georgia in the race for the bottom in
    counting ballots!


    We're #1!
    We're #1!

    My state, for once, is not in on the challenge. Chicago and suburban
    Cook County do use touch-screen ballot-marking devices, but the voter
    gets a paper ballot to review that's literally printed out. It then gets
    fed into a scanner and dropped into the ballot box for the initial
    count. If there is a recount, there are physical ballots to review.

    In Georgia, they allow voting machines with a touch screen that create a
    QR code. There is no physical ballot to review. The QR code gets fed
    into the scanner.

    I really don't understand where the "ballot". On a LAN within the
    polling site?

    I don't know either. I've avoided voting in person in the last few
    elections.

    After Trump's false accusations in 2020, the state legislature banned
    these devices by July 1, 2026, and then failed to authorize a
    replacement system. They've got a special election coming up for a
    Congressional district and no authorized system.

    Why would we need a replacement? Oh we need one to vote with? We'll
    just cook something up over the weekend.

    The Secretary of State proposed a regulation that after scanning the QR
    code, the image of the ballot represented by the QR code (or I suspect
    the serial number that the QR code itself represents) will be uploaded.
    The image will then be OCR'd and considered to be the "original" ballot,
    even though it is multiple steps removed from what the voter marked.

    This sounds... I'm not sure what it sounds like but 'stupid' works.
    It's some sort of rube Goldberg solution that someone might come up
    with during a drunken weekend.

    Is this idiotic or what? For whatever reason, southern states keep
    buying voting machines that don't make a paper record.

    https://apnews.com/article/georgia-ballots-qr-codes-legislature-special-session-7197f763b090285a5fc2f471aa374505

    Who needs a record that could be checked and then challenged.


    In Arizona, they just have the mailman keep the ballots away from us and
    then take them out in the desert and have a bonfire. It?s a lot cleaner
    system.

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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 10:56:21
    On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 07:41:33 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 09:10:27 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    California has a challenge from Georgia in the race for the bottom in
    counting ballots!


    We're #1!
    We're #1!

    My state, for once, is not in on the challenge. Chicago and suburban
    Cook County do use touch-screen ballot-marking devices, but the voter
    gets a paper ballot to review that's literally printed out. It then gets >>> fed into a scanner and dropped into the ballot box for the initial
    count. If there is a recount, there are physical ballots to review.

    In Georgia, they allow voting machines with a touch screen that create a >>> QR code. There is no physical ballot to review. The QR code gets fed
    into the scanner.

    I really don't understand where the "ballot". On a LAN within the
    polling site?

    I don't know either. I've avoided voting in person in the last few
    elections.

    After Trump's false accusations in 2020, the state legislature banned
    these devices by July 1, 2026, and then failed to authorize a
    replacement system. They've got a special election coming up for a
    Congressional district and no authorized system.

    Why would we need a replacement? Oh we need one to vote with? We'll
    just cook something up over the weekend.

    The Secretary of State proposed a regulation that after scanning the QR
    code, the image of the ballot represented by the QR code (or I suspect
    the serial number that the QR code itself represents) will be uploaded.
    The image will then be OCR'd and considered to be the "original" ballot, >>> even though it is multiple steps removed from what the voter marked.

    This sounds... I'm not sure what it sounds like but 'stupid' works.
    It's some sort of rube Goldberg solution that someone might come up
    with during a drunken weekend.

    Is this idiotic or what? For whatever reason, southern states keep
    buying voting machines that don't make a paper record.

    https://apnews.com/article/georgia-ballots-qr-codes-legislature-special-session-7197f763b090285a5fc2f471aa374505

    Who needs a record that could be checked and then challenged.


    In Arizona, they just have the mailman keep the ballots away from us and
    then take them out in the desert and have a bonfire. It?s a lot cleaner >system.

    Is it really? Releasing all those toxic fume into the environment. At
    least in our case they are virtual ballots so no fumes to be released
    when they are destroyed or altered.

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