• Writ of cerciorari

    From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 02:18:57
    I'm listening to a very enthusiastic Sarah Isgur of SCOTUSblog get
    interviewed about her new book on the Supreme Court, Last Branch
    Standing. "No lawyer knows how to pronounce writ lf cerciorari!"

    She says according to Latin scholars, the first c is a hard c.
    KERciorari

    I was amused. But Latin as used in medicine and sometimes law is more
    like New Latin, used to represent concepts with some actual new words
    and not inherited from ancient Latin literally.

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  • From rhino@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 02:31:54

    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> posted:

    I'm listening to a very enthusiastic Sarah Isgur of SCOTUSblog get interviewed about her new book on the Supreme Court, Last Branch
    Standing. "No lawyer knows how to pronounce writ lf cerciorari!"

    She says according to Latin scholars, the first c is a hard c.
    KERciorari

    I was amused. But Latin as used in medicine and sometimes law is more
    like New Latin, used to represent concepts with some actual new words
    and not inherited from ancient Latin literally.

    I encountered the same odd pronunciation of a word in two separate videos this past week. The word is "lattice", which I've always pronounced (and heard pronounced) very much like "lettuce" with only the first vowel sound different. But the two videos I saw may have been AI voiceovers who didn't know how to pronounce the word the "normal" way: both pronounced it like "lat-TEECE" with the emphasis on the second syllable. I've never ever heard it pronounced that way before. I think this is flat-out wrong but maybe I've just heard it pronounced in the same wrong way all my life....

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 02:36:03
    rhino <user3015@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> posted:

    I'm listening to a very enthusiastic Sarah Isgur of SCOTUSblog get
    interviewed about her new book on the Supreme Court, Last Branch
    Standing. "No lawyer knows how to pronounce writ lf cerciorari!"

    She says according to Latin scholars, the first c is a hard c.
    KERciorari

    I was amused. But Latin as used in medicine and sometimes law is more
    like New Latin, used to represent concepts with some actual new words
    and not inherited from ancient Latin literally.

    I encountered the same odd pronunciation of a word in two separate
    videos this past week. The word is "lattice", which I've always
    pronounced (and heard pronounced) very much like "lettuce" with only the >first vowel sound different. But the two videos I saw may have been AI >voiceovers who didn't know how to pronounce the word the "normal" way:
    both pronounced it like "lat-TEECE" with the emphasis on the second
    syllable. I've never ever heard it pronounced that way before. I think
    this is flat-out wrong but maybe I've just heard it pronounced in the
    same wrong way all my life....

    I'm always amazed when speakers of "Received English" or "BBC Announcer English" put the emphasis on a different syllable. And French speakers
    of English are inconsistent with accents or skip it.

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  • From suzeeq@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 14, 2026 21:08:55
    On 6/14/2026 7:31 PM, rhino wrote:

    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> posted:

    I'm listening to a very enthusiastic Sarah Isgur of SCOTUSblog get
    interviewed about her new book on the Supreme Court, Last Branch
    Standing. "No lawyer knows how to pronounce writ lf cerciorari!"

    She says according to Latin scholars, the first c is a hard c.
    KERciorari

    I was amused. But Latin as used in medicine and sometimes law is more
    like New Latin, used to represent concepts with some actual new words
    and not inherited from ancient Latin literally.

    I encountered the same odd pronunciation of a word in two separate videos this past week. The word is "lattice", which I've always pronounced (and heard pronounced) very much like "lettuce" with only the first vowel sound different. But the two videos I saw may have been AI voiceovers who didn't know how to pronounce the word the "normal" way: both pronounced it like "lat-TEECE" with the emphasis on the second syllable. I've never ever heard it pronounced that way before. I think this is flat-out wrong but maybe I've just heard it pronounced in the same wrong way all my life....

    Sounds like the way Brits pronounce a lot of words, emphasis on the
    second syllable.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.16
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 04:40:52
    On Jun 14, 2026 at 7:18:57 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    I'm listening to a very enthusiastic Sarah Isgur of SCOTUSblog get interviewed about her new book on the Supreme Court, Last Branch
    Standing. "No lawyer knows how to pronounce writ lf cerciorari!"

    She says according to Latin scholars, the first c is a hard c.
    KERciorari

    I refer her to the Boston Celtics, which everyone says as Seltics, when it should be Keltics.



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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 05:06:08
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Jun 14, 2026 at 7:18:57 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    I'm listening to a very enthusiastic Sarah Isgur of SCOTUSblog get >>interviewed about her new book on the Supreme Court, Last Branch
    Standing. "No lawyer knows how to pronounce writ lf cerciorari!"

    She says according to Latin scholars, the first c is a hard c.
    KERciorari

    I refer her to the Boston Celtics, which everyone says as Seltics, when it >should be Keltics.

    How about every single French name in the Midwest used as a geographical
    term or road name?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.16
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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Monday, June 15, 2026 07:50:19
    Verily, in article <1781490714-3015@newsgrouper.org>, did user3015 @newsgrouper.org.invalid deliver unto us this message:

    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> posted:

    I'm listening to a very enthusiastic Sarah Isgur of SCOTUSblog get interviewed about her new book on the Supreme Court, Last Branch
    Standing. "No lawyer knows how to pronounce writ lf cerciorari!"

    She says according to Latin scholars, the first c is a hard c.
    KERciorari

    I was amused. But Latin as used in medicine and sometimes law is more
    like New Latin, used to represent concepts with some actual new words
    and not inherited from ancient Latin literally.

    I encountered the same odd pronunciation of a word in two separate videos this past week. The word is "lattice", which I've always pronounced
    (and heard pronounced) very much like "lettuce" with only the first
    vowel sound different. But the two videos I saw may have been AI
    voiceovers who didn't know how to pronounce the word the "normal" way:
    both pronounced it like "lat-TEECE" with the emphasis on the second
    syllable. I've never ever heard it pronounced that way before. I
    think this is flat-out wrong but maybe I've just heard it pronounced
    in the same wrong way all my life....

    Interesting. They usually get pronunciations right but have trouble with homonyms (e.g., confusing "tear" as in ripping with "tear" as in
    crying). That, and the faint rasp most of them still have.

    Now I want to make a bunch of AIs say a sentence about the Boston
    Celtics.


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    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.16
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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 08:12:35
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1781490714-3015@newsgrouper.org>, did user3015 @newsgrouper.org.invalid deliver unto us this message:

    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> posted:

    I'm listening to a very enthusiastic Sarah Isgur of SCOTUSblog get
    interviewed about her new book on the Supreme Court, Last Branch
    Standing. "No lawyer knows how to pronounce writ lf cerciorari!"

    She says according to Latin scholars, the first c is a hard c.
    KERciorari

    I was amused. But Latin as used in medicine and sometimes law is more
    like New Latin, used to represent concepts with some actual new words
    and not inherited from ancient Latin literally.

    I encountered the same odd pronunciation of a word in two separate videos
    this past week. The word is "lattice", which I've always pronounced
    (and heard pronounced) very much like "lettuce" with only the first
    vowel sound different. But the two videos I saw may have been AI
    voiceovers who didn't know how to pronounce the word the "normal" way:
    both pronounced it like "lat-TEECE" with the emphasis on the second
    syllable. I've never ever heard it pronounced that way before. I
    think this is flat-out wrong but maybe I've just heard it pronounced
    in the same wrong way all my life....

    Interesting. They usually get pronunciations right but have trouble with homonyms (e.g., confusing "tear" as in ripping with "tear" as in
    crying). That, and the faint rasp most of them still have.

    Now I want to make a bunch of AIs say a sentence about the Boston
    Celtics.

    My speech therapy/workers kept having never heard of words or saying them
    wrong so I stared blankly at them and didn?t know what they were talking
    about. One task was finding words within words. I think one was DINNER and they were expecting diner and dive, and I first called out DIN and nobody
    had ever heard of that and I had to look it up to prove to them that I
    wasn?t making it up.



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