An Orange County judge has reduced the potential sentence for a Chilean >national accused of burglary after earlier finding that District Attorney Todd >Spitzer showed racial bias in the case. . . .
https://www.ocregister.com/2026/06/12/das-racial-bias-prompts-oc-judge-to-reduce-potential-jail-time-for-chilean-charged-with-burglary/
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
An Orange County judge has reduced the potential sentence for a Chilean
national accused of burglary after earlier finding that District Attorney
Todd
Spitzer showed racial bias in the case. . . .
https://www.ocregister.com/2026/06/12/das-racial-bias-prompts-oc-judge-to-reduce-potential-jail-time-for-chilean-charged-with-burglary/
I'm sure the California law in question is over-the-top stupid.
However, a good prosecutor knows he must keep his fucking mouth shut
because he MUST NOT allow the defense to say that he was trying to
influence the jury pool.
Did he have evidence that this defendant was part of a Chilean burglary
crew, or did he know only about this one serious crime he had committed
in the United States? Unless he had the ability to raise prior crimes committed in Chile into evidence, and I don't see how that's possible,
he had no business suggesting that he had committed any such crime in
various public statements.
As far as Biden's maladministration of immigration law, again, he should
have kept his fucking mouth shut beyond stating that he would fully
cooperate with federal authorities in bringing convictions by his office under the state criminal code to their attention as he is required to
do, and leave it at that.
Regardless of the law in question, this prosecutor's ethics are highly questionable and he's supposed to know better that to give ammunition to
the defense.
Jun 14, 2026 at 12:51:17 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
An Orange County judge has reduced the potential sentence for a Chilean >>>national accused of burglary after earlier finding that District
Attorney Todd Spitzer showed racial bias in the case. . . .
https://www.ocregister.com/2026/06/12/das-racial-bias-prompts-oc-judge-to-reduce-potential-jail-time-for-chilean-charged-with-burglary/
I'm sure the California law in question is over-the-top stupid.
However, a good prosecutor knows he must keep his fucking mouth shut >>because he MUST NOT allow the defense to say that he was trying to >>influence the jury pool.
Did he have evidence that this defendant was part of a Chilean burglary >>crew, or did he know only about this one serious crime he had committed
in the United States? Unless he had the ability to raise prior crimes >>committed in Chile into evidence, and I don't see how that's possible,
he had no business suggesting that he had committed any such crime in >>various public statements.
As far as Biden's maladministration of immigration law, again, he should >>have kept his fucking mouth shut beyond stating that he would fully >>cooperate with federal authorities in bringing convictions by his office >>under the state criminal code to their attention as he is required to
do, and leave it at that.
Regardless of the law in question, this prosecutor's ethics are highly >>questionable and he's supposed to know better that to give ammunition to >>the defense.
I don't see any problem whatsoever in a D.A. saying, "Many citizens
in our community have expressed concern and dismay over the recent >significant increase in burglaries and home invasions. Our investigations >have determined that this is transnational crime from Chile and it is >exploding in our community because of the lax immigration policies that
allow people from Chile to come to America unvetted. As a result, we're >experiencing a spree of crime tourism, where Chilean criminals come her >unvetted, spend a week or so on their crimes, ship their loot back to
Chile, and then hop on a plane and go home where we can't reach them
and hold them accountable. This is entirely preventable if the State >Department would apply the same vetting rules to Chilean visitors that
it does to every other 'tourist' from South America."
That is absolutely not racial bias in any way.
First, "Chilean" is not a race, so that eliminates the accusation right >there.
Second, a public official responding to a matter of public concern by >detailing the problem cannot ever be something that is considered illegal or >inappropriate.
Gavin Newsom tried to do this when Nick Shirley and Oz found
150 fake hospices operating out of one building in Van Nuys. Because they both >reported that nearly every fake office was run by Armenians and the area is a >known hotspot for Armenian organized crime, rather than thank them for >discovering a huge problem that needs to be addressed, Newsom filed racial >bias complaints against them for correctly noting the Armenian involvement in >ripping off taxpayers for billions of dollars.
This is just like what's happening in Britain: our California politicians have >no problem with the problem. They have a problem with people noticing and >talking about the problem.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Jun 14, 2026 at 12:51:17 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
An Orange County judge has reduced the potential sentence for a Chilean >>>> national accused of burglary after earlier finding that District
Attorney Todd Spitzer showed racial bias in the case. . . .
https://www.ocregister.com/2026/06/12/das-racial-bias-prompts-oc-judge-to-reduce-potential-jail-time-for-chilean-charged-with-burglary/
I'm sure the California law in question is over-the-top stupid.
However, a good prosecutor knows he must keep his fucking mouth shut
because he MUST NOT allow the defense to say that he was trying to
influence the jury pool.
Did he have evidence that this defendant was part of a Chilean burglary
crew, or did he know only about this one serious crime he had committed
in the United States? Unless he had the ability to raise prior crimes
committed in Chile into evidence, and I don't see how that's possible,
he had no business suggesting that he had committed any such crime in
various public statements.
As far as Biden's maladministration of immigration law, again, he should >>> have kept his fucking mouth shut beyond stating that he would fully
cooperate with federal authorities in bringing convictions by his office >>> under the state criminal code to their attention as he is required to
do, and leave it at that.
Regardless of the law in question, this prosecutor's ethics are highly
questionable and he's supposed to know better that to give ammunition to >>> the defense.
I don't see any problem whatsoever in a D.A. saying, "Many citizens
in our community have expressed concern and dismay over the recent
significant increase in burglaries and home invasions. Our investigations
have determined that this is transnational crime from Chile and it is
exploding in our community because of the lax immigration policies that
allow people from Chile to come to America unvetted. As a result, we're
experiencing a spree of crime tourism, where Chilean criminals come her
unvetted, spend a week or so on their crimes, ship their loot back to
Chile, and then hop on a plane and go home where we can't reach them
and hold them accountable. This is entirely preventable if the State
Department would apply the same vetting rules to Chilean visitors that
it does to every other 'tourist' from South America."
In that hypothetical statement to the press, he hasn't mentioned the
upcoming prosecution of a specific defendant, so it would be hard for
the defense to argue he's tainting the jury pool.
But I stand by my
criticism if he tries to link a specific defendant to crimes committed
in Chile that the prosecutor has no particular evidence regarding that
won't be introducing in court, then his ethics are questionable.
That is absolutely not racial bias in any way.
First, "Chilean" is not a race, so that eliminates the accusation right
there.
Er, without reading the law, I'll bet it includes a laundry list
includubg bias based on national origin or even assumptions that someone
with a long criminal record is predisposed to committing similar crimes.
Second, a public official responding to a matter of public concern by
detailing the problem cannot ever be something that is considered illegal or >> inappropriate.
shirly, you jest. Am I to believe that presenting criminal justice
statistics in a neutral manner is defense against this law?
Telling the truth will taint the jury pool!
Gavin Newsom tried to do this when Nick Shirley and Oz found
150 fake hospices operating out of one building in Van Nuys. Because they
both
reported that nearly every fake office was run by Armenians and the area is a
known hotspot for Armenian organized crime, rather than thank them for
discovering a huge problem that needs to be addressed, Newsom filed racial >> bias complaints against them for correctly noting the Armenian involvement in
ripping off taxpayers for billions of dollars.
Has the law specific to Nick Shirley been found unconstitutional yet?
This is just like what's happening in Britain: our California politicians
have
no problem with the problem. They have a problem with people noticing and
talking about the problem.
I agree with you, of course, but a prosecutor must be quite circumspect indeed when trying to link a specific defendant to a general pattern of
crime he's not being charged with. Too many prosecutors have done that
over the years and it is prejudicial.
Since when has 'tainting the jury pool' even been a thing in this country? >Karmelo Anthony's lawyers were on TV every day before his trial claiming the >whole thing was about white supremacists trying to 'lynch' a black boy for >defending himself. How is that not tainting the jury pool?
And that's just one example of gazillions. Lawyers for both sides do this all >the time. Price and Maroun stand before the press and declare defendants >guilty all the time and we know that LAW & ORDER is a perfect representation >of the judicial system.
. . .
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Since when has 'tainting the jury pool' even been a thing in this country? >> Karmelo Anthony's lawyers were on TV every day before his trial claiming the >> whole thing was about white supremacists trying to 'lynch' a black boy for >> defending himself. How is that not tainting the jury pool?
I don't know this. Since they offered the affirmative defense of self
defense at trial, I don't see how that's prejudicial when said outside
of court.
In court, the defense, like prosecution, said there was no racial
element to the case. To the extent they claimed falsely outside court
that there was, is that a violation of ethics?
And that's just one example of gazillions. Lawyers for both sides do this all
the time. Price and Maroun stand before the press and declare defendants
guilty all the time and we know that LAW & ORDER is a perfect representation >> of the judicial system.
This one I know. Unless the prosecution believes it can win a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt, it would be a breach of ethics to take the
casae to trial. The defense doesn't need to believe actual innocence.
Since it's hard to think of an episode in which Price has solid
evidence, he is in breach of ethics nearly every week.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
An Orange County judge has reduced the potential sentence for a Chilean >>national accused of burglary after earlier finding that District Attorney Todd
Spitzer showed racial bias in the case. . . .
https://www.ocregister.com/2026/06/12/das-racial-bias-prompts-oc-judge-to-reduce-potential-jail-time-for-chilean-charged-with-burglary/
I'm sure the California law in question is over-the-top stupid.
However, a good prosecutor knows he must keep his fucking mouth shut
because he MUST NOT allow the defense to say that he was trying to
influence the jury pool.
On Jun 14, 2026 at 12:51:17 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> >wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
An Orange County judge has reduced the potential sentence for a Chilean
national accused of burglary after earlier finding that District Attorney >>> Todd
Spitzer showed racial bias in the case. . . .
https://www.ocregister.com/2026/06/12/das-racial-bias-prompts-oc-judge-to-reduce-potential-jail-time-for-chilean-charged-with-burglary/
I'm sure the California law in question is over-the-top stupid.
However, a good prosecutor knows he must keep his fucking mouth shut
because he MUST NOT allow the defense to say that he was trying to
influence the jury pool.
Did he have evidence that this defendant was part of a Chilean burglary
crew, or did he know only about this one serious crime he had committed
in the United States? Unless he had the ability to raise prior crimes
committed in Chile into evidence, and I don't see how that's possible,
he had no business suggesting that he had committed any such crime in
various public statements.
As far as Biden's maladministration of immigration law, again, he should
have kept his fucking mouth shut beyond stating that he would fully
cooperate with federal authorities in bringing convictions by his office
under the state criminal code to their attention as he is required to
do, and leave it at that.
Regardless of the law in question, this prosecutor's ethics are highly
questionable and he's supposed to know better that to give ammunition to
the defense.
I don't see any problem whatsoever in a D.A. saying, "Many citizens in our >community have expressed concern and dismay over the recent significant >increase in burglaries and home invasions. Our investigations have determined >that this is transnational crime from Chile and it is exploding in our >community because of the lax immigration policies that allow people from Chile >to come to America unvetted. As a result, we're experiencing a spree of crime >tourism, where Chilean criminals come her unvetted, spend a week or so on >their crimes, ship their loot back to Chile, and then hop on a plane and go >home where we can't reach them and hold them accountable. This is entirely >preventable if the State Department would apply the same vetting rules to >Chilean visitors that it does to every other 'tourist' from South America."
That is absolutely not racial bias in any way.
First, "Chilean" is not a race, so that eliminates the accusation right >there.
Second, a public official responding to a matter of public concern by >detailing the problem cannot ever be something that is considered illegal or >inappropriate. Gavin Newsom tried to do this when Nick Shirley and Oz found >150 fake hospices operating out of one building in Van Nuys. Because they both >reported that nearly every fake office was run by Armenians and the area is a >known hotspot for Armenian organized crime, rather than thank them for >discovering a huge problem that needs to be addressed, Newsom filed racial >bias complaints against them for correctly noting the Armenian involvement in >ripping off taxpayers for billions of dollars.
This is just like what's happening in Britain: our California politicians have >no problem with the problem. They have a problem with people noticing and >talking about the problem.
On Jun 14, 2026 at 2:13:17 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Jun 14, 2026 at 12:51:17 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
An Orange County judge has reduced the potential sentence for a Chilean >>>>> national accused of burglary after earlier finding that District
Attorney Todd Spitzer showed racial bias in the case. . . .
https://www.ocregister.com/2026/06/12/das-racial-bias-prompts-oc-judge-to-reduce-potential-jail-time-for-chilean-charged-with-burglary/
I'm sure the California law in question is over-the-top stupid.
However, a good prosecutor knows he must keep his fucking mouth shut
because he MUST NOT allow the defense to say that he was trying to
influence the jury pool.
Did he have evidence that this defendant was part of a Chilean burglary >>>> crew, or did he know only about this one serious crime he had committed >>>> in the United States? Unless he had the ability to raise prior crimes
committed in Chile into evidence, and I don't see how that's possible, >>>> he had no business suggesting that he had committed any such crime in
various public statements.
As far as Biden's maladministration of immigration law, again, he should >>>> have kept his fucking mouth shut beyond stating that he would fully
cooperate with federal authorities in bringing convictions by his office >>>> under the state criminal code to their attention as he is required to
do, and leave it at that.
Regardless of the law in question, this prosecutor's ethics are highly >>>> questionable and he's supposed to know better that to give ammunition to >>>> the defense.
I don't see any problem whatsoever in a D.A. saying, "Many citizens
in our community have expressed concern and dismay over the recent
significant increase in burglaries and home invasions. Our investigations >>> have determined that this is transnational crime from Chile and it is
exploding in our community because of the lax immigration policies that
allow people from Chile to come to America unvetted. As a result, we're
experiencing a spree of crime tourism, where Chilean criminals come her
unvetted, spend a week or so on their crimes, ship their loot back to
Chile, and then hop on a plane and go home where we can't reach them
and hold them accountable. This is entirely preventable if the State
Department would apply the same vetting rules to Chilean visitors that
it does to every other 'tourist' from South America."
In that hypothetical statement to the press, he hasn't mentioned the
upcoming prosecution of a specific defendant, so it would be hard for
the defense to argue he's tainting the jury pool.
Since when has 'tainting the jury pool' even been a thing in this country? >Karmelo Anthony's lawyers were on TV every day before his trial claiming the >whole thing was about white supremacists trying to 'lynch' a black boy for >defending himself. How is that not tainting the jury pool?
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