• News: DGA Says "No" To TV Actors Directing TV Episodes!!

    From Ian J. Ball@3:633/10 to All on Friday, June 12, 2026 20:45:19
    From Variety:

    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/


    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors."


    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.



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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Friday, June 12, 2026 21:27:33
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    From Variety:

    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/


    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors."


    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.


    I?m appalled



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 04:32:35
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    From Variety:

    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/

    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors."

    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.

    How assinine. Directors have insisted since forever that they are
    management, not labor. They don't get exclusive trade union contracts.

    How many producers have already contracted with actors allowing them to
    direct an episode?

    How do you learn to direct if you aren't allowed to direct? A tv episode
    with a relatively small budget is a good place to learn. Sure, there
    have been actors who failed to adequately prepare, but numerous actors
    were quite successful directors.

    Charles Laughton directed one much imitated and well-regarded film, The
    Night of the Hunter (1955). Ida Lupino directed a number of B movies,
    several of which were quite suspenseful. Jerry the orthodontist on The
    Bob Newhart Show would direct nearly 400 tv episodes.

    The joke about Opie was that Robert Preston watched him observe cameras
    and direction on The Music Man and knew the kid wanted to be a director.

    I'm calling bullshit.

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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 01:15:02
    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 20:45:19 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    From Variety:

    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/


    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors."


    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.


    I am appalled by it. Though I have questions. Does this just mean an
    actor can't also direct an episode they are, an actor can't direct an
    episode of a series they are in or an actor on a TV show can't direct
    any episode. Also what about a actor who just does a guest spot on a
    TV show. Are they also prevented from directing any episode of a TV
    show?

    Okay, so I read the article and it sounds like TV actors will still be
    allowed to direct TV show episodes but only a limited number. Not sure
    what the limit is but doing a one off seems fine.

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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 05:16:54
    On Jun 12, 2026 at 8:45:19 PM PDT, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    From Variety:


    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/

    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors."

    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.

    You'd always see episodes of TREK directed by members of the cast. It's so common, I thought this was standard practice. Seems bizarre to outlaw at this late date.



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 07:01:22
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 20:45:19 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    From Variety:
    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/


    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new >>contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from >>directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors."


    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.


    I am appalled by it. Though I have questions. Does this just mean an
    actor can't also direct an episode they are, an actor can't direct an
    episode of a series they are in or an actor on a TV show can't direct
    any episode. Also what about a actor who just does a guest spot on a
    TV show. Are they also prevented from directing any episode of a TV
    show?

    Okay, so I read the article and it sounds like TV actors will still be >allowed to direct TV show episodes but only a limited number. Not sure
    what the limit is but doing a one off seems fine.

    They are trying to force actors to join DGA to direct.

    btw, there are plenty of directors of American movies who refuse to join
    DGA. You can always tell when the main titles are at movie's end since a
    DGA director's title is last in opening credits by contract.

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  • From shawn@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 05:41:03
    On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 05:16:54 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Jun 12, 2026 at 8:45:19 PM PDT, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> >wrote:

    From Variety:


    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/

    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors." >>
    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.

    You'd always see episodes of TREK directed by members of the cast. It's so >common, I thought this was standard practice. Seems bizarre to outlaw at this >late date.


    Based on what's been written it seems that the number of opportunities
    has dropped significantly. With fewer jobs they feel the need to
    protect what is available. Even to the point that they said they are
    trying to figure out how to enforce their rules overseas. Nothing like
    some over reach to start the discussion.

    I do wonder if this was ever even up for discussion before COVID. Or
    is this something that people in the DGA just started to worry about
    in the last few years? Certainly seems like people getting an
    opportunity to direct is a good way to keep feeding people into the
    DGA as they find themselves enjoying the experience and wanting to do
    more.

    Though maybe Adam has it right and they just want to force everyone
    that wants to try directing to join the DGA and pay the dues.

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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 07:28:39
    Verily, in article <110ip45$2n2g0$2@dont-email.me>, did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:

    On Jun 12, 2026 at 8:45:19 PM PDT, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    From Variety:


    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/

    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors."

    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.

    You'd always see episodes of TREK directed by members of the cast. It's so common, I thought this was standard practice. Seems bizarre to outlaw at this late date.

    This is how Penny "Queen of Directing" Marshall got her start -- she
    directed some episodes of Laverne and Shirley.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 08:46:14
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 20:45:19 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    From Variety:

    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/


    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors." >>

    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.


    I am appalled by it. Though I have questions. Does this just mean an
    actor can't also direct an episode they are, an actor can't direct an
    episode of a series they are in or an actor on a TV show can't direct
    any episode. Also what about a actor who just does a guest spot on a
    TV show. Are they also prevented from directing any episode of a TV
    show?

    Okay, so I read the article and it sounds like TV actors will still be allowed to direct TV show episodes but only a limited number. Not sure
    what the limit is but doing a one off seems fine.


    Shatner let Nimoy Direct hooker to prove to Paramount that Nimoy could
    direct a Star Trek movie, in exchange for him guest starring on the TV
    show. So they?re gonna put an end to that?

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 08:46:15
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2026 at 8:45:19 PM PDT, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    From Variety:


    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/

    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors." >>
    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.

    You'd always see episodes of TREK directed by members of the cast. It's so common, I thought this was standard practice. Seems bizarre to outlaw at this late date.

    Now you?ve changed my mind. Anything that allows Gates McMuffin to Direct should be outlawed.



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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 16:28:16
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    . . .

    Based on what's been written it seems that the number of opportunities
    has dropped significantly. With fewer jobs they feel the need to
    protect what is available. Even to the point that they said they are
    trying to figure out how to enforce their rules overseas. Nothing like
    some over reach to start the discussion.

    Directors who work on non-Hollywood productions or never set foot on set
    of a US-based production aren't even DGA members. Producers based in
    other countries aren't parties to the contract. DGA is trying to achieve world-wide jurisdiction. Good luck with that.

    There aren't always enough movies and tv episodes to go around. Actors
    have put up with not acting since they no longer had studio contracts.
    They are in a business with zero security and they work with people with
    huge egos who do not give a shit about the business of entertainment,
    that is, finding an audience. Hell, studio executives don't even like
    movies and tv.

    Producers don't get paid when they haven't sold a production. What, they
    should form a craft union too?

    I do wonder if this was ever even up for discussion before COVID. Or
    is this something that people in the DGA just started to worry about
    in the last few years? Certainly seems like people getting an
    opportunity to direct is a good way to keep feeding people into the
    DGA as they find themselves enjoying the experience and wanting to do
    more.

    Though maybe Adam has it right and they just want to force everyone
    that wants to try directing to join the DGA and pay the dues.

    Before the SAG-AFTRA merger, actors had to join both unions, depending
    on which had jurisdiction over a production. Plenty of actors weren't
    paid adequately to justify the expense.

    And Equity never merged, so in Chicago with actors going back and forth
    between AFTRA-jurisdiction television productions and unionized theater,
    they still have to join both unions. I don't know what unions have
    jurisdiction over Broadway productions but I'm sure New York actors also
    have to join multiple unions.

    Directors are not in a craft. They are management. There should be no
    guild.

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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 12:35:44
    Verily, in article <335211884.803058151.633574.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:
    Shatner let Nimoy Direct hooker to prove to Paramount that Nimoy could
    direct a Star Trek movie,


    I didn't know that. That's pretty cool.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 16:47:50
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    did atropos@mac.com deliver unto us this message:
    Jun 12, 2026 at 8:45:19 PM PDT, Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    From Variety:

    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/

    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new >>>contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from >>>directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors."

    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.

    You'd always see episodes of TREK directed by members of the cast. It's so >>common, I thought this was standard practice. Seems bizarre to outlaw at this >>late date.

    This is how Penny "Queen of Directing" Marshall got her start -- she >directed some episodes of Laverne and Shirley.

    It helped greatly that her older brother was the producer. However, she
    clearly had talent. That same year, she directed the pilot of Working
    Stiffs, which her brother did not produce. Not sure which came first.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 10:23:17
    On 6/13/26 8:46 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 20:45:19 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    From Variety:

    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/


    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors." >>>

    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.

    I am appalled by it. Though I have questions. Does this just mean an
    actor can't also direct an episode they are, an actor can't direct an
    episode of a series they are in or an actor on a TV show can't direct
    any episode. Also what about a actor who just does a guest spot on a
    TV show. Are they also prevented from directing any episode of a TV
    show?

    Okay, so I read the article and it sounds like TV actors will still be
    allowed to direct TV show episodes but only a limited number. Not sure
    what the limit is but doing a one off seems fine.

    Shatner let Nimoy Direct hooker to prove to Paramount that Nimoy could
    direct a Star Trek movie, in exchange for him guest starring on the TV
    show. So they?re gonna put an end to that?

    No, but they are going to limit it.



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  • From Ian J. Ball@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 10:25:18
    On 6/13/26 8:46 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2026 at 8:45:19 PM PDT, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    From Variety:


    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/

    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors." >>>
    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.

    You'd always see episodes of TREK directed by members of the cast. It's so >> common, I thought this was standard practice. Seems bizarre to outlaw at this
    late date.

    Now you?ve changed my mind. Anything that allows Gates McMuffin to Direct should be outlawed.

    Well, she wasn't successful at it, was she?! ;p




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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 18:29:13
    On Jun 13, 2026 at 12:01:22 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 20:45:19 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    From Variety:


    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/


    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors." >>>

    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.


    I am appalled by it. Though I have questions. Does this just mean an
    actor can't also direct an episode they are, an actor can't direct an
    episode of a series they are in or an actor on a TV show can't direct
    any episode. Also what about a actor who just does a guest spot on a
    TV show. Are they also prevented from directing any episode of a TV
    show?

    Okay, so I read the article and it sounds like TV actors will still be
    allowed to direct TV show episodes but only a limited number. Not sure
    what the limit is but doing a one off seems fine.

    They are trying to force actors to join DGA to direct.

    btw, there are plenty of directors of American movies who refuse to join
    DGA. You can always tell when the main titles are at movie's end since a
    DGA director's title is last in opening credits by contract.

    George Lucas got into a lot of hot water with the unions over the opening to STAR WARS, which contains no opening credits at all. Just that long crawl of yellow text receding into the distance. Apparently that violated a lot of 'rules'.



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  • From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 14, 2026 02:15:04
    On Jun 13, 2026 at 9:28:16 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    . . .

    Based on what's been written it seems that the number of opportunities
    has dropped significantly. With fewer jobs they feel the need to
    protect what is available. Even to the point that they said they are
    trying to figure out how to enforce their rules overseas. Nothing like
    some over reach to start the discussion.

    Directors who work on non-Hollywood productions or never set foot on set
    of a US-based production aren't even DGA members. Producers based in
    other countries aren't parties to the contract. DGA is trying to achieve world-wide jurisdiction. Good luck with that.

    Sounds like the DGA is really just an HOA at heart.



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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 22:13:23
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    . . .

    Based on what's been written it seems that the number of opportunities
    has dropped significantly. With fewer jobs they feel the need to
    protect what is available. Even to the point that they said they are
    trying to figure out how to enforce their rules overseas. Nothing like
    some over reach to start the discussion.

    Directors who work on non-Hollywood productions or never set foot on set
    of a US-based production aren't even DGA members. Producers based in
    other countries aren't parties to the contract. DGA is trying to achieve world-wide jurisdiction. Good luck with that.

    There aren't always enough movies and tv episodes to go around. Actors
    have put up with not acting since they no longer had studio contracts.
    They are in a business with zero security and they work with people with
    huge egos who do not give a shit about the business of entertainment,
    that is, finding an audience. Hell, studio executives don't even like
    movies and tv.

    Producers don't get paid when they haven't sold a production. What, they should form a craft union too?

    I do wonder if this was ever even up for discussion before COVID. Or
    is this something that people in the DGA just started to worry about
    in the last few years? Certainly seems like people getting an
    opportunity to direct is a good way to keep feeding people into the
    DGA as they find themselves enjoying the experience and wanting to do
    more.

    Though maybe Adam has it right and they just want to force everyone
    that wants to try directing to join the DGA and pay the dues.

    Before the SAG-AFTRA merger, actors had to join both unions, depending
    on which had jurisdiction over a production. Plenty of actors weren't
    paid adequately to justify the expense.

    And I had to pay to join up as a signatory on the other side to hire
    someone in SAG
    We did a lot of cute tricks like hiring an associate producer who was a signatory and having him hire the talent.


    And Equity never merged, so in Chicago with actors going back and forth between AFTRA-jurisdiction television productions and unionized theater,
    they still have to join both unions. I don't know what unions have jurisdiction over Broadway productions but I'm sure New York actors also
    have to join multiple unions.

    Directors are not in a craft. They are management. There should be no
    guild.




    --
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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 22:13:24
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <335211884.803058151.633574.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:
    Shatner let Nimoy Direct hooker to prove to Paramount that Nimoy could
    direct a Star Trek movie,


    I didn't know that. That's pretty cool.


    Yep. Which eventually led to Shatner getting to direct a Star Trek movie as well, due to his favorite nations contract with Nimoy. Can you hear me?

    --
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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 22:13:25
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 6/13/26 8:46 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jun 12, 2026 at 8:45:19 PM PDT, ""Ian J. Ball"" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    From Variety:


    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/

    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors." >>>>
    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.

    You'd always see episodes of TREK directed by members of the cast. It's so >>> common, I thought this was standard practice. Seems bizarre to outlaw at this
    late date.

    Now you?ve changed my mind. Anything that allows Gates McMuffin to Direct
    should be outlawed.

    Well, she wasn't successful at it, was she?! ;p


    Or acting, or even remembering to touch the communicator button before
    saying her lines.



    --
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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 13, 2026 22:13:26
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On Jun 13, 2026 at 12:01:22 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 20:45:19 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
    wrote:

    From Variety:


    https://variety.com/2026/film/news/dga-deal-terms-tv-actors-jobs-directors-1236780373/


    "The Directors Guild of America has secured a provision in its new
    contract that limits actors and others who work on TV series from
    directing episodes, as it seeks to preserve jobs for career TV directors." >>>>

    I don't know if I am amused by this or appalled. I think I am both.


    I am appalled by it. Though I have questions. Does this just mean an
    actor can't also direct an episode they are, an actor can't direct an
    episode of a series they are in or an actor on a TV show can't direct
    any episode. Also what about a actor who just does a guest spot on a
    TV show. Are they also prevented from directing any episode of a TV
    show?

    Okay, so I read the article and it sounds like TV actors will still be
    allowed to direct TV show episodes but only a limited number. Not sure
    what the limit is but doing a one off seems fine.

    They are trying to force actors to join DGA to direct.

    btw, there are plenty of directors of American movies who refuse to join
    DGA. You can always tell when the main titles are at movie's end since a
    DGA director's title is last in opening credits by contract.

    George Lucas got into a lot of hot water with the unions over the opening to STAR WARS, which contains no opening credits at all. Just that long crawl of yellow text receding into the distance. Apparently that violated a lot of 'rules'.

    AFAIK Spielberg was the one with enough clout to finally break the rules on opening credits.



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