• Gather Yourselves Together

    From Scott Dorsey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 14, 2026 21:13:43
    I just recently read this book, which is probably PKD's first book
    dating from before he got into science fiction at all. It was written
    before 1951 but didn't get printed until 60 years later.

    It takes place in a company town in China in 1949 as the company shuts down
    and leaves in the face of the incoming communist forces. The company employees head out, leaving two men and one woman in place to manage the handover to the PLA. All of these people have serious hangups and issues
    with sexual repression.

    The environment... it's not very much like China and the forces coming
    in aren't much like communists. It's all very abstract and very PKD
    and you could imagine a tire regroover right there.

    I can't recommend the book for itself, but I can recommend the book a lot
    as a view into a proto-PKD in the days when he was trying to write
    straight romantic fiction. Every page has a glimpse into what he's
    going to be someday. Set your mood organ to enlightened.
    --scott

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  • From Don@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, June 16, 2026 17:10:13
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    I just recently read this book, which is probably PKD's first book
    dating from before he got into science fiction at all. It was written
    before 1951 but didn't get printed until 60 years later.

    It takes place in a company town in China in 1949 as the company shuts down and leaves in the face of the incoming communist forces. The company employees head out, leaving two men and one woman in place to manage the handover to the PLA. All of these people have serious hangups and issues with sexual repression.

    The environment... it's not very much like China and the forces coming
    in aren't much like communists. It's all very abstract and very PKD
    and you could imagine a tire regroover right there.

    I can't recommend the book for itself, but I can recommend the book a lot
    as a view into a proto-PKD in the days when he was trying to write
    straight romantic fiction. Every page has a glimpse into what he's
    going to be someday. Set your mood organ to enlightened.

    SIGMUND FREUD AND THE JEWISH MYSTICAL TRADITION by David Bakan is my
    current audiobook. Bakan peppers his book with about two dozen forms of
    the infinitive "repress." Bakan spells out how Freud's very own
    repressed thoughts inform Freud's psychoanalytical theory.
    Your PKD post piqued my psychoanalytical curiosity about repression.
    My sample of reviewers mostly agree with your take on GATHER YOURSELVES TOGETHER. One such reviewer wrote a comprehensive essay on the story.
    [1]
    When you say, "sexual repression" do you intend to use it
    subjectively? Because the comprehensive review leaves me with the
    impression that neither Barbara, nor Verne, nor Carl's mind sexually
    repress thoughts.
    An example of what you mean would be most helpful. Thank you.

    Note.

    [1] <https://tinyurl.com/4rejw7uf>

    Postscript:

    Beezlebub Bibi's big beautiful brownie, Trump Terrific, is far from my
    favorite president. Nonetheless, the White House UFC spectacular
    spectacle on Sunday succeeded in a manner similar to Andrew Jackson's
    first inaugural reception.

    Danke,

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  • From John Savard@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 17, 2026 17:30:57
    On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:10:13 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:

    When you say, "sexual repression" do you intend to use it
    subjectively? Because the comprehensive review leaves me with the
    impression that neither Barbara, nor Verne, nor Carl's mind sexually
    repress thoughts.

    Normally, when the phrase "sexual repression" is used, it doesn't mean
    people repress thoughts in a fashion that is sexual; if it is thoughts
    that are being repressed, then it would be the thoughts themselves
    that are sexual.

    John Savard

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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 17, 2026 13:54:07
    Verily, in article <6a32d974.8093640@news.eternal-september.org>, did quadibloc@invalid.com deliver unto us this message:

    On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:10:13 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:

    When you say, "sexual repression" do you intend to use it
    subjectively? Because the comprehensive review leaves me with the >impression that neither Barbara, nor Verne, nor Carl's mind sexually >repress thoughts.

    Normally, when the phrase "sexual repression" is used, it doesn't mean
    people repress thoughts in a fashion that is sexual; if it is thoughts
    that are being repressed, then it would be the thoughts themselves
    that are sexual.

    We need the other adverbial form here. They repress their thoughts
    sexwise.


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  • From Don@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, June 17, 2026 18:20:03
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <6a32d974.8093640@news.eternal-september.org>, did quadibloc@invalid.com deliver unto us this message:

    On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 17:10:13 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:

    When you say, "sexual repression" do you intend to use it
    subjectively? Because the comprehensive review leaves me with the
    impression that neither Barbara, nor Verne, nor Carl's mind sexually
    repress thoughts.

    Normally, when the phrase "sexual repression" is used, it doesn't mean
    people repress thoughts in a fashion that is sexual; if it is thoughts
    that are being repressed, then it would be the thoughts themselves
    that are sexual.

    We need the other adverbial form here. They repress their thoughts
    sexwise.

    Thank you guys for noting how my order of words was wrong. With words in correct order, my sentence reads:

    Because the comprehensive review leaves me with the
    impression that neither Barbara, nor Verne, nor
    Carl's mind repress sexual thoughts.

    Barbara and Verne come across as horndogs in Fake Geek Boy's review.
    It's hard to imagine that either of them repress sexual thoughts.
    Carl seems more interested in intellectual pursuits than sex.
    Some people are built that way:

    Man is distinguished, not only by his reason but
    also by this singular passion from other animals...
    which is a lust of the mind, that by a perseverance
    of delight in the continual and indefatigable
    generation of knowledge, exceeds the short vehemence
    of any carnal pleasure. - Hobbes

    Postscript:

    Search engines and AI again prove their worthlessness. The above quote
    by Hobbes was located using old fashioned brain power. There's nothing
    on Earth equivalent to the human mind.

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    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' vos |



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