• Re: Limitations of GenAI and LLM (was: Re: Collaborative fiction on gop

    From The Horny Goat@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, May 02, 2026 17:46:38
    Subject: Re: Limitations of GenAI and LLM (was: Re: Collaborative fiction on gopher: cosmic.voyage)

    On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 10:25:23 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Humans aren't always doing it on purpose, either. Authoritative-sounding >nonsense isn't new, and it's always fooled some readers.

    There have been several cases in Canada over the last year or two
    where junior lawyers have been pilloried by judges for using AI's to
    find precedents - without checking to ensure that the AI's
    "precedents" were real and not fictitious.

    Early on the judges were being hornswaggled by these fake "precedents"
    - but not now. (Typically if 3 or 4 cases are submitted as precedents
    and the judge doesn't recognize any of them, they will now go back to
    the actual hardcopy books and if the precedents are not found,
    somebody gets a judicial "spanking" the next day!

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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, May 03, 2026 10:14:27
    Subject: Re: Limitations of GenAI and LLM (was: Re: Collaborative fiction on gopher: cosmic.voyage)

    Verily, in article <8g6dvkpjouq0nusojjjc9sr8k71ee63pl1@4ax.com>, did lcraver@home.ca deliver unto us this message:

    On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 10:25:23 -0400, The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Humans aren't always doing it on purpose, either. Authoritative-sounding >nonsense isn't new, and it's always fooled some readers.

    There have been several cases in Canada over the last year or two
    where junior lawyers have been pilloried by judges for using AI's to
    find precedents - without checking to ensure that the AI's
    "precedents" were real and not fictitious.

    Yep, we've had some such cases in the US, too.

    There are also a couple of cases where innocent people were arrested
    because of AI misidentification.

    I don't know how to make humans more skeptical of those who sound
    confident.

    --
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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, May 03, 2026 09:16:23
    Subject: Re: Limitations of GenAI and LLM (was: Re: Collaborative fiction on gopher: cosmic.voyage)

    On Sun, 3 May 2026 10:14:27 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Verily, in article <8g6dvkpjouq0nusojjjc9sr8k71ee63pl1@4ax.com>, did >lcraver@home.ca deliver unto us this message:

    On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 10:25:23 -0400, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Humans aren't always doing it on purpose, either.
    Authoritative-sounding
    nonsense isn't new, and it's always fooled some readers.

    There have been several cases in Canada over the last year or two
    where junior lawyers have been pilloried by judges for using AI's to
    find precedents - without checking to ensure that the AI's
    "precedents" were real and not fictitious.

    Yep, we've had some such cases in the US, too.

    There are also a couple of cases where innocent people were arrested
    because of AI misidentification.

    I don't know how to make humans more skeptical of those who sound
    confident.

    When, back in the early 80's, I first used WordStar I found myself
    accepting proposed hyphenation point just because the computer
    suggested them.

    I bought a small book (Word Book II) which lists English words -- lots
    of 'em -- and shows the /correct/ hyphenation points.

    So I can empathize with those who find computer suggestions hard to
    resist.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.14
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)