• "I Play Rocky"

    From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Friday, July 17, 2026 15:37:19
    The movie is for real. I?ve seen the trailer covered this week on
    various film nerd channels I watch.

    This is the official trailer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dJmj9gwD8

    Matt Dillon as Frank Sr. One of the Farrelly brothers directs.

    ?The Odyssey? will be the high water mark of Woke, and then Hollywood
    will have to rediscover how to make money.

    So the next Stallone biopic will be ?I Play Rambo?. Then the next will
    be ?I Play Judge Dredd?.

    Lynn


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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 09:10:21
    On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 15:37:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    The movie is for real. I?ve seen the trailer covered this week on
    various film nerd channels I watch.

    This is the official trailer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dJmj9gwD8

    Matt Dillon as Frank Sr. One of the Farrelly brothers directs.

    ?The Odyssey? will be the high water mark of Woke, and then
    Hollywood
    will have to rediscover how to make money.

    So the next Stallone biopic will be ?I Play Rambo?. Then the next
    will
    be ?I Play Judge Dredd?.

    Just in case this is relevant. I haven't streamed /The Odyssey/ yet.
    And, at nearly 3 hours, it may be a while before I do.

    There is also the minor detail that, seeing a list of the director's
    other films -- well, let's just say that /Batman Begins/ /alone/ is a
    strong argument against watching it. Particularly at nearly 3 hours.

    But there are a couple things that (if correct, this is all IIRC)
    might or might not be relevant to whatever "woke" is a reference to:

    1. Graves, in /The Greek Myths/ records some of the Ancients stating
    that Helen came from Egypt.
    2. Herodotus asserts that Colchis was founded by Egypt and so
    populated by Egyptians.
    3. Gibbon asserts that this means they were Black. Which would mean
    that a Black Helen of Troy might not have been an entirely unknown
    possibility in the past.

    The complaints about language are ... weird. What are they supposed to
    speak? Homeric Greek? If so, are subtitles to be allowed?

    Or is this a reference to the old movie tradition for "sand and
    sandals" movies to have the bad guys use a British accent (and/or have
    brown eyes) and the good guys an American accent (and/or have blue
    eyes)?

    Or is the problem that they are speaking in prose and not in poetry?
    IOW, is this about how to translate poetry?

    (The stories themselves are, of course, poetry in dactylic hexameter.)
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 18, 2026 14:22:01
    On 7/18/2026 9:10 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 15:37:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    The movie is for real. I?ve seen the trailer covered this week on
    various film nerd channels I watch.

    This is the official trailer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dJmj9gwD8

    Matt Dillon as Frank Sr. One of the Farrelly brothers directs.

    ?The Odyssey? will be the high water mark of Woke, and then Hollywood
    will have to rediscover how to make money.

    So the next Stallone biopic will be ?I Play Rambo?. Then the next will
    be ?I Play Judge Dredd?.

    Just in case this is relevant. I haven't streamed /The Odyssey/ yet.
    And, at nearly 3 hours, it may be a while before I do.

    Possibly because it isn't streaming yet, having just opened in theatres
    this weekend?

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 09:48:11
    On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 14:22:01 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 7/18/2026 9:10 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 15:37:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    The movie is for real. I?ve seen the trailer covered this week on
    various film nerd channels I watch.

    This is the official trailer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dJmj9gwD8

    Matt Dillon as Frank Sr. One of the Farrelly brothers directs.

    ?The Odyssey? will be the high water mark of Woke, and then
    Hollywood
    will have to rediscover how to make money.

    So the next Stallone biopic will be ?I Play Rambo?. Then the
    next will
    be ?I Play Judge Dredd?.

    Just in case this is relevant. I haven't streamed /The Odyssey/ yet.
    And, at nearly 3 hours, it may be a while before I do.

    Possibly because it isn't streaming yet, having just opened in theatres
    this weekend?

    That is one factor, yes.

    But it takes a while to become available to me at (for rentals, which
    Major Films invariably go to first) for the price to drop to something
    I am willing to pay.

    I don't expect /The Odyssey/ to be available any time soon. Sheer
    /pride/ would dictate keeping it at a premium price a long long time,
    to prove its worth.

    This varies, of course. Some films on my list have been there for a
    long, long time. Some Major Films (well, Marvel films, anyway) become
    available considerably faster.

    Indeed, I suspect I can tell how popular a film /really/ is by how
    quickly it becomes available: the sooner it is available, the less
    popular it is. So a really bad Marvel movie will tend to be available
    quite quickly. "Bad" in the sense of "not liked by others"; I actually
    thought the one about the three women trading places was pretty good
    (for a Marvel film).
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 19, 2026 09:50:09
    On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 15:37:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    The movie is for real. I?ve seen the trailer covered this week on
    various film nerd channels I watch.

    This is the official trailer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dJmj9gwD8

    Matt Dillon as Frank Sr. One of the Farrelly brothers directs.

    ?The Odyssey? will be the high water mark of Woke, and then
    Hollywood
    will have to rediscover how to make money.

    So the next Stallone biopic will be ?I Play Rambo?. Then the next
    will
    be ?I Play Judge Dredd?.

    Have you seen /Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, The/? It may be at
    least related to what you have in mind.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)