• META: Gmail started bouncing messages from the racc list

    From Russ Allbery@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, May 14, 2026 02:12:38
    Gmail has started bouncing messages from the racc mailing list that echoes
    the newsgroup. As usual for Gmail, there is no hint as to why and nothing
    has changed about how the list works, and of course there's no usable
    contact information.

    I have reconfigured the list to make sure that it always rewrites From
    headers because I noticed that one of the bounces had a Gmail address in
    the From header. Not sure why the DMARC handling code didn't handle that,
    since things going to Gmail should always be rewritten, but maybe this
    will fix it?

    There are various things that I know I could do to sign messages from the mailing list but I have almost no time to work on it, so in practice I'm
    not sure how much I'm going to be able to do to solve this problem if that doesn't work.

    Hopefully affected people will see this in the newsgroup or mailing list archive somehow.

    --
    Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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  • From Drew Perron@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, May 14, 2026 17:19:25
    Update on this: There were several messages that got thru but gmail
    marked them spam? I marked them as not spam and I'm going to keep
    doing so and hopefully that'll convince whatever algorithm is doing
    this that they're fine. @@

    Drew "so it goes??" Nilium

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  • From Russ Allbery@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, May 14, 2026 17:39:41
    Drew Perron <pwerdna@gmail.com> writes:

    Update on this: There were several messages that got thru but gmail
    marked them spam? I marked them as not spam and I'm going to keep
    doing so and hopefully that'll convince whatever algorithm is doing
    this that they're fine. @@

    Drew "so it goes??" Nilium

    Okay, that's great news, that means that it's not rejecting everything all
    the time. A few people did get unsubscribed, it looks like, but hopefully Mailman will send them notifications of that and they'll notice eventually
    if they're still reading.

    Thank you for training their algorithm!

    --
    Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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  • From Drew Perron@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, May 14, 2026 18:54:52
    On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 1:39?PM Russ Allbery via racc
    <racc@lists.eyrie.org> wrote:

    Drew Perron <pwerdna@gmail.com> writes:

    Update on this: There were several messages that got thru but gmail
    marked them spam? I marked them as not spam and I'm going to keep
    doing so and hopefully that'll convince whatever algorithm is doing
    this that they're fine. @@

    Okay, that's great news, that means that it's not rejecting everything al
    l
    the time. A few people did get unsubscribed, it looks like, but hopefully Mailman will send them notifications of that and they'll notice eventuall
    y
    if they're still reading.

    Hopefully so! :>

    Thank you for training their algorithm!

    You're very welcome! n.n

    Drew "heck yeah makin' it happen" Nilium

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