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    From Gordon@3:633/10 to All on Friday, August 28, 2026 07:57:46
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/1156428/flabbergasted-road-freight-lobby-criticises-fuel-excise-deferral

    The situation with potable water has shown many of the folks that it is a
    good idea to keep the mtce up to scratch.

    Never mind they (both major parties) want to do it again with roading excise, which of course pays for the roads.

    Now the task is PM, is to sell this to the people. Roading is a bi-partisan area. Using it to gain votes is not the way to go in the long run.

    Further, we already have

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/regions/984498/bridges-not-up-to-scratch-roads-to-be-returned-to-gravel-south-island-counts-cost-of-under-investment

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  • From Crash@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 29, 2026 09:06:27
    On 28 Aug 2026 07:57:46 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/1156428/flabbergasted-road-freight-lobby-criticises-fuel-excise-deferral

    The situation with potable water has shown many of the folks that it is a >good idea to keep the mtce up to scratch.

    Never mind they (both major parties) want to do it again with roading excise, >which of course pays for the roads.

    Now the task is PM, is to sell this to the people. Roading is a bi-partisan >area. Using it to gain votes is not the way to go in the long run.

    Further, we already have

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/regions/984498/bridges-not-up-to-scratch-roads-to-be-returned-to-gravel-south-island-counts-cost-of-under-investment


    Fuel excise tax goes into the Land Transport Fund, administered by the
    NZTA. Not all of this fund is spent on roads etc. - some is spent on
    pubic transport (ie bus and rail subsidies), cycle ways etc. It is
    possible to maintain or increase funding of road asset maintenance
    without any excise increase but this would likely require reduced
    funding in other areas.


    --
    Crash McBash

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
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  • From Mutley@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 29, 2026 09:19:37
    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

    On 28 Aug 2026 07:57:46 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/1156428/flabbergasted-road-freight-lobby-criticises-fuel-excise-deferral

    The situation with potable water has shown many of the folks that it is a >>good idea to keep the mtce up to scratch.

    Never mind they (both major parties) want to do it again with roading excise,
    which of course pays for the roads.

    Now the task is PM, is to sell this to the people. Roading is a bi-partisan >>area. Using it to gain votes is not the way to go in the long run.

    Further, we already have
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/regions/984498/bridges-not-up-to-scratch-roads-to-be-returned-to-gravel-south-island-counts-cost-of-under-investment


    Fuel excise tax goes into the Land Transport Fund, administered by the
    NZTA. Not all of this fund is spent on roads etc. - some is spent on
    pubic transport (ie bus and rail subsidies), cycle ways etc. It is
    possible to maintain or increase funding of road asset maintenance
    without any excise increase but this would likely require reduced
    funding in other areas.

    Funny how so many people in this country have so much money that
    they are calling for tax increases. The road transport operators
    will just pass the cost on to us the plebs who can't pass it on
    to anyone else so will have to pay yet again.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
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