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  • Re: Question about: Debian puts artificial intelligence to a vote; dev

    From The Wanderer@3:633/10 to All on Friday, August 21, 2026 21:00:01
    Subject: Re: Question about: Debian puts artificial intelligence to a vote; developers will decide how to accept AI-generated or assisted code

    On 2026-08-21 at 14:43, Jean-Christophe wrote:
    Here is a respectful and articulate response in English:
    Especially given the inclusion of that line, this reads very strongly as
    if it were written by a LLM, AKA "generative AI".
    Given that the message you're responding to explicitly includes the
    statement
    I am not interested in conversing with machines
    , it seems clear to me that sending a response which was generated by
    such a machine is by definition not respectful.
    You might still have a valid argument to justify using it in such a
    case; that's a separate question. But labeling it as "respectful" while disrespecting the expressed preferences of the one you're claiming to
    respect seems problematic, to me.
    --
    The Wanderer
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
    persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
    progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw


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  • From Charles Curley@3:633/10 to All on Friday, August 21, 2026 23:10:02
    Subject: Re: Question about: Debian puts artificial intelligence to a vote; developers will decide how to accept AI-generated or assisted code

    On Fri, 21 Aug 2026 14:52:23 -0400
    The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    On 2026-08-21 at 14:43, Jean-Christophe wrote:

    Here is a respectful and articulate response in English:

    Especially given the inclusion of that line, this reads very strongly
    as if it were written by a LLM, AKA "generative AI".

    Given that the message you're responding to explicitly includes the
    statement

    I am not interested in conversing with machines

    This strikes me as a non-sequitur. Who is conversing with a machine? Jean-Christophe may have used an AI. So what? He is solely reponsible
    for the product, not the AI. You are conversing with him, not the AI.

    If tomas@tuxteam.de takes offense at Jean-Christophe's reply, I'm sure
    he can make an articulate and courteous response. I don't think he needs
    you to do it for him.

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  • From Charles Curley@3:633/10 to All on Friday, August 21, 2026 23:30:01
    Subject: Re: Question about: Debian puts artificial intelligence to a vote; developers will decide how to accept AI-generated or assisted code

    On Fri, 21 Aug 2026 20:50:07 +0100
    debian-user@howorth.org.uk wrote:

    The message you replied to said: 'If I may pose a
    wish, it'd be that "AI generated" code be clearly marked'?.

    Um, the request was that AI generated *code* be clearly marked. It
    didn't say anything abut emails.


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  • From Charles Curley@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 22, 2026 16:50:02
    Subject: Re: Question about: Debian puts artificial intelligence to a vote; developers will decide how to accept AI-generated or assisted code

    On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 07:23:50 +0200
    <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:

    Um, the request was that AI generated *code* be clearly marked. It
    didn't say anything abut emails.

    Nice nit you picked there :)

    Thank you.


    Had you read my mail, you might have inferred that my wish extends
    to any kind of communication, since I focused code as a communication
    between human beings.

    Sorry, I flunked mind-reading 101 at Hogwarts. Yes, I might have so
    inferred it. I might have inferred it correctly, or I might have
    inferred it incorrectly. I prefer to stick with the words in front of
    me, and not guess. And not get into, "well he wrote X, but I think he
    really meant !X." I'll leave that to the courts, thank you.


    So to put it explicitly: yes, also mails. And phone conversations.
    And short messages. And... everything where I'm assuming there is
    a human at the other end.

    Thank you for that clarification. Think about putting that into your
    signature.

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