Just make sure you keep an ample supply
of Depends around. You don't play pc games,anyway.
You just spew drivel about them on Usenet.
Well, not really... but that's sort of what a recent article on >gameindustry.biz* is saying. It claims that the so called 'grey gamer'
market (gamers 55+) are 'under-served by the industry, despite there
being a growing number of them buying games. Reportedly the 40+
segment is expected to grow from $19 billion (2022) to $43 billion USD
in 2030; one of the few segments that is actually seeing growth while
the rest of the industry contracts.
The thing is, are we fogies** really so under-served? <snip>
D2 enhanced version, oh yeah, online only, so it's a "hell no" to
purchase for me.
Yes, we expect value for money like in the old days, and the modern
games are all day1 DLCs for basic functions and full of MTX in order to >actually progress.
Compare Diablo2 with Diablo3.
All too many modern games follow this metric, as well as being designed
for ADHD teens addicted to their phones and MTX.
On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 07:41:12 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> said this
thing:
Yes, we expect value for money like in the old days, and the modern
games are all day1 DLCs for basic functions and full of MTX in order to
actually progress.
Compare Diablo2 with Diablo3.
All too many modern games follow this metric, as well as being designed
for ADHD teens addicted to their phones and MTX.
I don't think they're designed for teens so much as they take
advantage of them. The publishers prey on FOMO and the teen's social anxieties, as well as their inexperience with less predatory gaming experiences. These tactics are less effective as you get older,
forcing publishers to rely on other tactics (like actually making a
good game!) to rope in older players. But I think --and based on my admittedly limited ability to survey the youth-- most kids would
appreciate the same sort of games as their elders. A lot of them seem
as annoyed with the heavy-handed live-service bullshit being foisted
on them as we are.
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
Well, not really... but that's sort of what a recent article on >gameindustry.biz* is saying. It claims that the so called 'grey gamer' >market (gamers 55+) are 'under-served by the industry, despite there
being a growing number of them buying games. Reportedly the 40+
segment is expected to grow from $19 billion (2022) to $43 billion USD
in 2030; one of the few segments that is actually seeing growth while
the rest of the industry contracts.
The thing is, are we fogies** really so under-served? <snip>
Yes, we expect value for money like in the old days, and the modern
games are all day1 DLCs for basic functions and full of MTX in order to actually progress.
Compare Diablo2 with Diablo3.
I could play diabl2 offline and never spend another dollar, diablo3 on
the other hand was online only, even for solo play, and designed with
shit drops to force you into the real money auction house so blizzard
got more money.
D2 enhanced version, oh yeah, online only, so it's a "hell no" to
purchase for me.
Fuck battle.net, fuck blizzard wanting to advertise at me before I'm
allowed to play the game I paid for.
All too many modern games follow this metric, as well as being designed
for ADHD teens addicted to their phones and MTX.
Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
Well, not really... but that's sort of what a recent article on
gameindustry.biz* is saying. It claims that the so called 'grey gamer'
market (gamers 55+) are 'under-served by the industry, despite there
being a growing number of them buying games. Reportedly the 40+
segment is expected to grow from $19 billion (2022) to $43 billion USD
in 2030; one of the few segments that is actually seeing growth while
the rest of the industry contracts.
The thing is, are we fogies** really so under-served? <snip>
Yes, we expect value for money like in the old days, and the modern
games are all day1 DLCs for basic functions and full of MTX in order to
actually progress.
What's MTX? I must be old. :(
Yes, we expect value for money like in the old days, and the modern
games are all day1 DLCs for basic functions and full of MTX in order to
actually progress.
What's MTX? I must be old. :(
Micro Transactions. Small digital expansions to the game that you buy
after the fact
You know, "buy a hat for USD $1.50", "Get a lootbox suprise for
$2.00", or "Crafting too hard? Speed up your crafting speed for three
hours at the low-low-price of $2.00". Sometimes called in-game
purchases.
On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 07:41:12 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
D2 enhanced version, oh yeah, online only, so it's a "hell no" to
purchase for me.
D2 Resurrected is not online only. It works offline. You can backup
your offline characters because they are locally saved. You can
download mods. These mods only work in offline mode, not on BattleNet,
as you would expect them to. This is exactly how classic D2 works.
There is an online component to D2 Resurrected but it is not 'online
only' like D3. You must authenticate your account once every 30 days
with an active internet connection. Once you authenticate, you can
play without an active internet connection for 30 more days offline.
No lag. No ping to think about. You can pause the game. I am ok with
this check-in process. If you are not, that is ok. But D2 Resurrected
is factually not online only.
If I have to check in with Blizzard every month to see if I am still
allowed to play the game I purchased, this is NOT value for money.
D2 had no such leash.
This is the difference between being a free man and being on parole.
I'm not going to give Blizzard money to treat me like a criminal.
Xocyll
On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 04:46:32 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
If I have to check in with Blizzard every month to see if I am still >>allowed to play the game I purchased, this is NOT value for money.
D2 had no such leash.
This is the difference between being a free man and being on parole.
I'm not going to give Blizzard money to treat me like a criminal.
Xocyll
I don't disagree with you, but as far as I know, this is the reality
for bigger titles in the video game industry these days. This is also
a separate issue from the point of my post.
On 6/4/26 5:49 PM, bill_wilson wrote:
Just make sure you keep an ample supply
of Depends around. You don't play pc games,anyway.
You just spew drivel about them on Usenet.
I wonder how many people have your messages filtered out.
You are always so rude and obscene.
At least you are active. That's something I guess.
Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the
porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 04:46:32 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
If I have to check in with Blizzard every month to see if I am still >>>allowed to play the game I purchased, this is NOT value for money.
D2 had no such leash.
This is the difference between being a free man and being on parole.
I'm not going to give Blizzard money to treat me like a criminal.
Xocyll
I don't disagree with you, but as far as I know, this is the reality
for bigger titles in the video game industry these days. This is also
a separate issue from the point of my post.
And likely why I will not buy any game at any price (even free) where my ability to continue playing single player involves an online account and
a forced login every month.
How long until that morphs into not just logging in once a month, but
having made an MTX purchase that month as well if you want to keep
playing the game you bought at an absurdly high price?
Blizzard already proved with D3's real money auction house and the game tuning to force you into it, that they ARE that greedy.
When it's an actual remake of D2 including full offline and never ever
need to go online unless I choose to, then I might purchase it.
But they'd better do it soon, my Diablo2 nostalgia is fading more and
more the longer it goes since I played.
Xocyll
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