• RO Pinboard problem

    From Dave@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, February 05, 2026 12:42:26
    VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20

    I have a Pinboard problem and wondered what's going on.

    I have a file called "BP2602" and a reference to it in the Pinboard
    Tasks.Obey file.

    "XPin HostFS::HardDisc4.$.filepathto.BP2602" plus co-ordinates on the
    desktop.

    But though it does present in the correct place on the pinboard/Desktop,
    the name is now "bp2602" not BP2602.

    The file will still run okay when 2/clicked on the Pinboard, by why is the system changing the name? (I need it to be specifically BP2602).

    If I change the actual file name to Bp2602 then it display on the pinboard
    as Bp2602.

    Thanks
    Dave

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Dave@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, February 05, 2026 16:13:21
    In article <5ca661bd9adave@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
    VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20

    I have a Pinboard problem and wondered what's going on.

    I have a file called "BP2602" and a reference to it in the Pinboard Tasks.Obey file.

    "XPin HostFS::HardDisc4.$.filepathto.BP2602" plus co-ordinates on the desktop.

    But though it does present in the correct place on the pinboard/Desktop,
    the name is now "bp2602" not BP2602.

    The file will still run okay when 2/clicked on the Pinboard, by why is
    the system changing the name? (I need it to be specifically BP2602).

    If I change the actual file name to Bp2602 then it display on the
    pinboard as Bp2602.

    Thanks
    Dave

    Done a bit more work on this...

    If there are no numerics in the file name it displays on the pinboard
    okay, Eg: "BPForms".

    With regard to my requirements, It'll only behave if I add a lower case
    Alpha character after the BP thus:

    "BPx2602"

    Or a lower case Alpha character after the numerics thus:

    "BP2602z"

    What a load of ......

    Thoughts...

    Thanks
    Dave

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Jean-Michel@3:633/10 to All on Friday, February 06, 2026 10:11:40
    In message <5ca661bd9adave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20

    I have a Pinboard problem and wondered what's going on.

    I have a file called "BP2602" and a reference to it in the Pinboard Tasks.Obey file.

    "XPin HostFS::HardDisc4.$.filepathto.BP2602" plus co-ordinates on the desktop.

    But though it does present in the correct place on the pinboard/Desktop,
    the name is now "bp2602" not BP2602.

    The file will still run okay when 2/clicked on the Pinboard, by why is the system changing the name? (I need it to be specifically BP2602).

    If I change the actual file name to Bp2602 then it display on the pinboard
    as Bp2602.

    Thanks
    Dave

    Hi,
    If I create an "EXAMPLE" directory pinboard changes it to "Example". We
    can rename it but then Pinboard crashes...
    When restarting, the name change was taken into account!!!

    --
    Jean-Michel

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  • From Richard Ashbery@3:633/10 to All on Friday, February 06, 2026 12:15:22
    In article <dc47d2a65c.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>, Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> wrote:
    In message <5ca661bd9adave@triffid.co.uk> Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk>
    wrote:

    Hi, If I create an "EXAMPLE" directory pinboard changes it to
    "Example". We can rename it but then Pinboard crashes... When
    restarting, the name change was taken into account!!!

    So it does - crash occurs with a file or a directory. The new name is
    reflected correctly on the SSD after a reboot. Looks like a bug. I
    haven't gone through Dave's example but from what he's reporting is
    this another bug?

    Using Pinboard 2.07

    Richard



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  • From Chris Hughes@3:633/10 to All on Friday, February 06, 2026 13:10:44
    In message <5ca6e31981basura@invalid.addr.uk>
    Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

    In article <dc47d2a65c.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>, Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> wrote:
    In message <5ca661bd9adave@triffid.co.uk> Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk>
    wrote:

    Hi, If I create an "EXAMPLE" directory pinboard changes it to
    "Example". We can rename it but then Pinboard crashes... When
    restarting, the name change was taken into account!!!

    So it does - crash occurs with a file or a directory. The new name is reflected correctly on the SSD after a reboot. Looks like a bug. I
    haven't gone through Dave's example but from what he's reporting is
    this another bug?

    Using Pinboard 2.07

    I assume Richard you are using Pinboard 2 from ROD, whereas I think Dave
    is using the standard Pinboard from RISC OS 6.20.

    Two completely different beasts


    --
    Chris Hughes

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  • From Richard Ashbery@3:633/10 to All on Friday, February 06, 2026 15:09:46
    In article <202be8a65c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
    <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <5ca6e31981basura@invalid.addr.uk> Richard Ashbery
    <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

    In article <dc47d2a65c.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>, Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> wrote:
    In message <5ca661bd9adave@triffid.co.uk> Dave
    <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    Hi, If I create an "EXAMPLE" directory pinboard changes it to
    "Example". We can rename it but then Pinboard crashes... When
    restarting, the name change was taken into account!!!

    So it does - crash occurs with a file or a directory. The new
    name is reflected correctly on the SSD after a reboot. Looks like
    a bug. I haven't gone through Dave's example but from what he's
    reporting is this another bug?

    Using Pinboard 2.07

    I assume Richard you are using Pinboard 2 from ROD, whereas I think
    Dave is using the standard Pinboard from RISC OS 6.20.

    That's correct Chris, Pinboard 2 from ROD, V2.07.

    Two completely different beasts

    I was actually replying to Jean-Michel's posting.


    Richards


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  • From Paul Stewart@3:633/10 to All on Friday, February 06, 2026 18:05:52
    In message <5ca6750cf6dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <5ca661bd9adave@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
    VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20

    I have a Pinboard problem and wondered what's going on.

    I have a file called "BP2602" and a reference to it in the Pinboard
    Tasks.Obey file.

    "XPin HostFS::HardDisc4.$.filepathto.BP2602" plus co-ordinates on the
    desktop.

    But though it does present in the correct place on the pinboard/Desktop,
    the name is now "bp2602" not BP2602.

    The file will still run okay when 2/clicked on the Pinboard, by why is
    the system changing the name? (I need it to be specifically BP2602).

    If I change the actual file name to Bp2602 then it display on the
    pinboard as Bp2602.

    Thanks
    Dave

    Done a bit more work on this...

    If there are no numerics in the file name it displays on the pinboard
    okay, Eg: "BPForms".

    With regard to my requirements, It'll only behave if I add a lower case
    Alpha character after the BP thus:

    "BPx2602"

    Or a lower case Alpha character after the numerics thus:

    "BP2602z"

    What a load of ......

    Thoughts...

    Okay. I have fired up my VRPC running 6.20 and I can replicate your
    issue. I cannot replicated on my A9home running 4.42 due to not having
    the same options.

    Issue on RO6 would appear to be due to the "Object name display" setting
    from within Configure-Pinboard-Interface. Under "Object name display"
    there a setting: "Show all CAPS in lower case". When ticked this shows
    the non numeric portion of the filename that are all in capitals as lower case: -

    BP2602 = bp2602
    BPx2602 = BPx2602 (this displays correctly because the non
    numeric part of the filename is is mixture of cases and not all
    uppercase
    BP6202z = BP6202z (works for same reason as above)

    Hope this helps :)

    --
    Paul Stewart
    Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42

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  • From Dave@3:633/10 to All on Friday, February 06, 2026 20:29:35
    In article <353003a75c.Paul@phorefaux>,
    Paul Stewart <phorefaux@gmail.com> wrote:
    In message <5ca6750cf6dave@triffid.co.uk>
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <5ca661bd9adave@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
    VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20

    I have a Pinboard problem and wondered what's going on.

    I have a file called "BP2602" and a reference to it in the Pinboard
    Tasks.Obey file.

    [Snip]

    Okay. I have fired up my VRPC running 6.20 and I can replicate your
    issue. I cannot replicated on my A9home running 4.42 due to not having
    the same options.

    Issue on RO6 would appear to be due to the "Object name display" setting from within Configure-Pinboard-Interface. Under "Object name display"
    there a setting: "Show all CAPS in lower case". When ticked this shows
    the non numeric portion of the filename that are all in capitals as
    lower case: -

    BP2602 = bp2602
    BPx2602 = BPx2602 (this displays correctly because the non
    numeric part of the filename is is mixture of cases and not all
    uppercase
    BP6202z = BP6202z (works for same reason as above)

    Hope this helps :)

    Paul,
    Give that Man a score of Eleven out of Ten. An absolutely wonderful catch.

    That was indeed the problem, now fixed.

    Much appreciated, thanks

    Dave

    Nb: Interestingly, many previous experiments showed it was a RISC OS 6.20 problem, and that it didn't happen on any RISC OS 4.39 installs I tested.

    Nor even a RPCEmu and RISC OS 5.31.

    Neither RISC OS 4.39 or RISC OS 5.3nn have that Pinboard configure option.

    D.

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Paul Stewart@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, February 07, 2026 12:01:11
    In message <10m78b0$10df6$1@druck.eternal-september.org>
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

    On 06/02/2026 20:29, Dave wrote:
    Nb: Interestingly, many previous experiments showed it was a RISC OS 6.20
    problem, and that it didn't happen on any RISC OS 4.39 installs I tested.

    Nor even a RPCEmu and RISC OS 5.31.

    Neither RISC OS 4.39 or RISC OS 5.3nn have that Pinboard configure option.

    If people are reporting problems please give *important* details such as which OS and filing system you are using, and *note* that there is the built-in Pinboard and also Pinboard2.

    To be fair to Dave, he did state in his original post he was using VRPC
    with RISC OS 6.20, also in his example he did indicate the filing system
    was HostFS.

    From the above details it wasn't too hard to understand which operating system, filing system or product he was using it on.

    He posted enough information for his issue to be resolved.

    --
    Paul Stewart
    Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42

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  • From Dave@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, February 07, 2026 15:54:59
    In article <10m78b0$10df6$1@druck.eternal-september.org>,
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
    On 06/02/2026 20:29, Dave wrote:
    Nb: Interestingly, many previous experiments showed it was a RISC OS
    6.20 problem, and that it didn't happen on any RISC OS 4.39 installs I tested.

    Nor even a RPCEmu and RISC OS 5.31.

    Neither RISC OS 4.39 or RISC OS 5.3nn have that Pinboard configure
    option.

    If people are reporting problems please give *important* details such as which OS and filing system you are using, and *note* that there is the built-in Pinboard and also Pinboard2.

    ---druck

    Mnnn! Considering what my original posting contained, I'm not sure what I
    could have added?

    I didn't know of the existence of a Pinboard2... Guess that must be a RISC
    OS 5.nn thing which I don't use.

    Dave



    VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20
    ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I have a Pinboard problem and wondered what's going on.

    I have a file called "BP2602" and a reference to it in the Pinboard
    Tasks.Obey file.

    "XPin HostFS::HardDisc4.$.filepathto.BP2602" plus co-ordinates on the desk. ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



    D.

    --

    Dave Triffid

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  • From Dave@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, February 11, 2026 09:11:01
    In article <10mgiqa$3ugv$1@druck.eternal-september.org>,
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
    On 07/02/2026 15:54, Dave wrote:
    In article <10m78b0$10df6$1@druck.eternal-september.org>,
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
    If people are reporting problems please give *important* details such
    as which OS and filing system you are using, and *note* that there is
    the built-in Pinboard and also Pinboard2.

    ---druck

    Mnnn! Considering what my original posting contained, I'm not sure
    what I could have added?

    Sorry must have come in halfway through the thread.

    I didn't know of the existence of a Pinboard2... Guess that must be a
    RISC OS 5.nn thing which I don't use.

    Well at least you've learnt something!

    ---druck


    Mmnn!
    That poses another question or maybe two. :-)

    I have a test setup of RISC OS 5.31 (March 25) on a RPCEmu install)

    What does Pinboard2 have that the bog standard RISC OS Pinboard doesn't
    have?

    Is Pinboard2 in all newer versions of RISC OS 5.3nn?

    Thanks

    Dave

    --

    Dave Triffid

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  • From Martin@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, February 11, 2026 09:38:22
    In article <5ca9656675dave@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    Mmnn! That poses another question or maybe two. :-)

    I have a test setup of RISC OS 5.31 (March 25) on a RPCEmu install)

    What does Pinboard2 have that the bog standard RISC OS Pinboard
    doesn't have?

    Is Pinboard2 in all newer versions of RISC OS 5.3nn?

    See https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/pinboard-2/

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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  • From Chris Hughes@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, February 11, 2026 21:43:57
    In message <10mirso$uecd$1@druck.eternal-september.org>
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

    On 11/02/2026 09:11, Dave wrote:
    What does Pinboard2 have that the bog standard RISC OS Pinboard doesn't
    have?

    I've only got it on my mini.m test machine, but it seems every time I
    VNC in to it I accidentally click on the pinboard and hide all the open windows. The only way I've found to unhide them is to use it's menu to
    hide and then restore. I looked for some configuration to turn this off,
    but didn't find any. The website doesn't have a link to documentation,
    as is standard for ROD products.

    Goto the Pinboard Configure setup via menu on the pinboard, then
    Miscellaneous section second option down sounds like what you are wanting unticked.

    --
    Chris Hughes

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  • From Dave@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, February 12, 2026 09:12:21
    In article <5ca967e7aaNews04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
    Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <5ca9656675dave@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    Mmnn! That poses another question or maybe two. :-)

    I have a test setup of RISC OS 5.31 (March 25) on a RPCEmu install)

    What does Pinboard2 have that the bog standard RISC OS Pinboard
    doesn't have?

    Is Pinboard2 in all newer versions of RISC OS 5.3nn?

    See https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/pinboard-2/

    Thanks for the link Martin,

    Looks interesting and I've downloaded it, and though I'm very busy ATM,
    later when I'm done with a particular job I'm in the middle of, I'll try
    it out on some of my Test RISC OS installs.

    Regards
    Dave

    --

    Dave Triffid

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  • From Paul Stewart@3:633/10 to All on Friday, February 13, 2026 18:21:07
    In message <10mirso$uecd$1@druck.eternal-september.org>
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

    On 11/02/2026 09:11, Dave wrote:
    What does Pinboard2 have that the bog standard RISC OS Pinboard doesn't
    have?

    I've only got it on my mini.m test machine, but it seems every time I
    VNC in to it I accidentally click on the pinboard and hide all the open windows. The only way I've found to unhide them is to use it's menu to
    hide and then restore. I looked for some configuration to turn this off,
    but didn't find any. The website doesn't have a link to documentation,
    as is standard for ROD products.

    The website itself may not have links to documentation, but the download contains a 55 page manual.

    --
    Paul Stewart
    Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42

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  • From Paul Stewart@3:633/10 to All on Friday, February 13, 2026 18:31:34
    In message <5ca967e7aaNews04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <5ca9656675dave@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    Mmnn! That poses another question or maybe two. :-)

    I have a test setup of RISC OS 5.31 (March 25) on a RPCEmu install)

    What does Pinboard2 have that the bog standard RISC OS Pinboard
    doesn't have?

    Is Pinboard2 in all newer versions of RISC OS 5.3nn?

    See https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/pinboard-2/
    Thanks for the above link Martin.
    Looking at the site, I did not realise it worked with RISC OS versions,
    other than 5. Have downloaded to test on my A9home.

    Couple of points to note:

    1. The supplied Install obey file, does not work, generated file not found error. I believe this is due it looking for and not finding RO500Hook.

    2. Can be installed by merging the !Boot, but the Pinboard 2 Configure app does did not load, this is due to it being supplied in RO500Hook. Just manually moved it into RO440Hook, and then worked as expected.

    Essentially the Install obey file could do with some improvements.

    Following a reboot, it was up and running. Just need to explore it now :)

    --
    Paul Stewart
    Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42

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