Because my provider is stopping his service, I'm looking for another way to share files over the internet with RISC OS.
In the last 24 years I copied files using !SiteMatch and !FTPc to the
server of the provider and people could call it using an URL like
http://home.chiemgau-net.de/ausserstorfer/Temp/2026-01-31/Laberradweg1.jpg (90 kB)
This image is from my last cycle tour from my home to the Sorbs and part of
a report I posted (like here) to Usenet.
It seems to be difficult to me to find a ftp server today. Somebody
declares that ftp is 'dead'.
What may be alternatives to that? I still want to use RISC OS of course!
Because my provider is stopping his service, I'm looking for another wayMy site is hosted by David Feugey and not just mine, you should contact
to share files over the internet with RISC OS.
In the last 24 years I copied files using !SiteMatch and !FTPc to the
server of the provider and people could call it using an URL like
http://home.chiemgau-net.de/ausserstorfer/Temp/2026-01-31/Laberradweg1.jpg (90 kB)
This image is from my last cycle tour from my home to the Sorbs and part
of a report I posted (like here) to Usenet.
It seems to be difficult to me to find a ftp server today. Somebody
declares that ftp is 'dead'.
What may be alternatives to that? I still want to use RISC OS of course!
Thanks in advance!
Alex
The URL you posted above is an http URL, not ftp. It's entirely normal
for a hosted website to be read by many users via http, but written by one person - the owner - using ftp. I moved my site recently to Netcup gmbh,
who were offering a very low cost service, and I use FTPc to put my files
on it.
AFAIK, all web hosting works this way.
On 22 Mar, David Higton wrote in message
<4415a8bd5c.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>:
The URL you posted above is an http URL, not ftp. It's entirely normal
for a hosted website to be read by many users via http, but written by
one person - the owner - using ftp. I moved my site recently to Netcup gmbh, who were offering a very low cost service, and I use FTPc to put my files on it.
AFAIK, all web hosting works this way.
Not all: there's something of a move away from FTP[1], certainly
unencrypted FTP. I can't remember which of SFTP and FTPS is is that FTPc supports
but your provider needs to support the same one.
On 22 Mar, David Higton wrote in message
<4415a8bd5c.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>:
The URL you posted above is an http URL, not ftp. It's entirely normal
for a hosted website to be read by many users via http, but written by one person - the owner - using ftp. I moved my site recently to Netcup gmbh, who were offering a very low cost service, and I use FTPc to put my files on it.
AFAIK, all web hosting works this way.
Not all: there's something of a move away from FTP[1], certainly unencrypted FTP. I can't remember which of SFTP and FTPS is is that FTPc supports, but your provider needs to support the same one. There is (or was) a command
line tool for the other protocol on RISC OS; was it by John Ballance?
1. It's increasingly common to find people doing file transfers over SSH, because it's secure and more flexible, and can be used to transfer more than just files.
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
On 22 Mar, David Higton wrote in message
<4415a8bd5c.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>:
The URL you posted above is an http URL, not ftp. It's entirely normal
for a hosted website to be read by many users via http, but written by one >>> person - the owner - using ftp. I moved my site recently to Netcup gmbh, >>> who were offering a very low cost service, and I use FTPc to put my files >>> on it.
AFAIK, all web hosting works this way.
Not all: there's something of a move away from FTP[1], certainly unencrypted >> FTP. I can't remember which of SFTP and FTPS is is that FTPc supports, but >> your provider needs to support the same one. There is (or was) a command
line tool for the other protocol on RISC OS; was it by John Ballance?
I think FTPc supports FTPS, which is regular FTP over SSL (TLS).
SFTP uses the SSH protocol, which is something entirely different.
I did some ports of command-line SFTP (one from PuTTY and one from OpenSSH) but I suggest it's better to get the OpenSSH from riscos.info which should
be slightly newer but still woefully out of date.
I haven't kept up with whether there are any newer builds of OpenSSH and/or any GUI tools supporting SFTP.
1. It's increasingly common to find people doing file transfers over SSH,
because it's secure and more flexible, and can be used to transfer more than >> just files.
It's also just one port (combining login/file-transfer/port-forwarding) to expose to the internet and OpenSSH is well-maintained, whereas FTP daemons have a history of vulnerabilities.
Theo
I use my SDF Public Access UNIX System shell account for uploading and sharing files. In theory FTP could be used given the correct membership
kevel and clearance but is discouraged for good reasons.
Both SCP and PSFTP would be a much better idea though and both are
available on RISC OS iirc via PuTTY Tools.
Connect to and browse through remote folders using PSFTP and then GET and
PUT files. Connecting via Nettle SSH (or telnet if you must) also gives access to all sort of unix cli tools.
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