I was trying to get automatically numbered pages in Ovation Pro by
adding them to a footer in the document's master page - but apparently
every time I create a new chapter in Ovation a new and blank master page
is created for it, so that retrospective changes to the original master
page are not reflected throughout the rest of the document... which
seems to render the concept of a 'master page' a bit pointless. How
does Ovation usually implement page numbering across documents with more
than one chapter?
In article <d545ece15c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
I was trying to get automatically numbered pages in Ovation Pro by
adding them to a footer in the document's master page - but apparently every time I create a new chapter in Ovation a new and blank master page
is created for it, so that retrospective changes to the original master page are not reflected throughout the rest of the document... which
seems to render the concept of a 'master page' a bit pointless. How
does Ovation usually implement page numbering across documents with more than one chapter?
When you create the new chapter after say Chapter 1.
In the Chapter dialogue pane that presents.. "Modify Chapter 2". Leave the "Start number" box empty.
On 1 Jun 2026 as I do recall,
Dave wrote:
In article <d545ece15c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
I was trying to get automatically numbered pages in Ovation Pro by
adding them to a footer in the document's master page - but
apparently every time I create a new chapter in Ovation a new and
blank master page is created for it, so that retrospective changes
to the original master page are not reflected throughout the rest of
the document... which seems to render the concept of a 'master page'
a bit pointless. How does Ovation usually implement page numbering across documents with more than one chapter?
When you create the new chapter after say Chapter 1.
In the Chapter dialogue pane that presents.. "Modify Chapter 2". Leave
the "Start number" box empty.
Ah, so when I do a "New chapter->After current chapter" I can *at that
point* control which 'master page' is used (the "Base on chapter" icon
is writable) and I *can't* retrospectively modify that using the "Modify chapter" dialogue, which is what I was trying to do (because the "Base
on chapter" icon is by then greyed out).
So my problem is that I created all the chapters first and then tried to
add page numbering to the existing text afterwards, based on my
experience with Impression master pages. And I can work around it by modifying the master page for Chapter and then creating a whole load of
new blank chapters following on that one and now based on its
updated master page, and individually cutting and pasting the content of
the unnumbered chapters into them.
I'm still not sure how I then cope if I need to modify the original page layout subsequently, e.g. adjust the margins of the document, since the master pages for each chapter still all seem to be independent of one
another - I feel I must be missing something basic in the way that
Ovation operates!
I'd also be interested in the answer to that one so I'll post to the dp mailing list.
Or, as it appears, because I don't know the answer to the question, I
have
to go into each chapter in turn and make the adjustment?
In article <5ce31b1a07dave@triffid.co.uk>,
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
No, once the chapter is created, each master page is separate and independent of the others. It's only when you create a new chapter that
you can specify an existing chapter to copy.
Or, as it appears, because I don't know the answer to the question,
I have to go into each chapter in turn and make the adjustment?
Yes, adjusting each one is, I'm afraid, the way you have to do it.
The remainder of the post from Gavin... In which he posts details of the script...
"Although I can offer a helpful little script that will make the process
a bit easier."
Interesting methinks and maybe I'll try it when I can find some time. :-/
So if you think it would help, I could send it to you privately.
Since it's probably looking as if I shall end up having to export the
text a second time into EasiWriter in order to produce MS Word output
(for reasons that I now forget, I had to export all 35 chapters from Impression into Ovation in order to do the final printout, and am now attempting to reformat that to produce extracts - I should probably just
go back to the Impression Publisher original, the main problem there
being that I have to run Aemulor, which means I have to quit various
other apps), I'm not sure it's worth it.
(So far as I can see, the only way to produce a DocX file is to export
in Word format from EasiWriter and then find a working /doc to /docx converter site on the Internet, which I've had to do once or twice....)
I assume you are aware of being able to drop a Publisher
file onto the Ovation Pro Icon bar Icon to import it.
In article <5ce417de7edave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave
<dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
I assume you are aware of being able to drop a Publisher
file onto the Ovation Pro Icon bar Icon to import it.
Wowee! Thanks Dave.
I knew you could export the Impression file as DDF, and was
actually going to suggest that to Harriet. Then I realised
that you (Harriet) almost certainly knew that and that you
knew that all the graphics would be missing.
I've just dragged a 7.5 MB Impression file to OvPro and it
took less than 5 seconds to load. The only thing that I can
see that's wrong is that the facing page format has been
ignored.
You live and learn...
John
(So far as I can see, the only way to produce a DocX file is to export
in Word format from EasiWriter and then find a working /doc to /docx converter site on the Internet, which I've had to do once or twice....)
Do you have a Windows or inux machine.
In article <f2b9e4e35c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>, Harriet Bazley
(So far as I can see, the only way to produce a DocX file is to export
in Word format from EasiWriter and then find a working /doc to /docx converter site on the Internet, which I've had to do once or twice....)
Do you have a Windows or Linux machine.
I assume you are aware of being able to drop a Publisher file onto the Ovation Pro Icon bar Icon to import it.
On 5 Jun 2026 as I do recall, Chris Newman wrote:
Do you have a Windows or Linux machine.
No.
In article <71a464e45c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>, Harriet
Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
On 5 Jun 2026 as I do recall, Chris Newman wrote:
Do you have a Windows or Linux machine.
No.
Not even a Raspberry Pi?
On 6 Jun 2026 as I do recall,
John wrote:
In article <71a464e45c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>, Harriet
Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
On 5 Jun 2026 as I do recall, Chris Newman wrote:
Do you have a Windows or Linux machine.No.
Not even a Raspberry Pi?
No. If I absolutely have to do something involving Windows I go to the library and use their network for half an hour or so on my way home.
In message <0a06bce45c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> Harriet Bazley
<harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
On 6 Jun 2026 as I do recall, John wrote:
In article <71a464e45c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>, Harriet Bazley
<harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
On 5 Jun 2026 as I do recall, Chris Newman wrote:
Do you have a Windows or Linux machine.No.
Not even a Raspberry Pi?
No. If I absolutely have to do something involving Windows I go to
the library and use their network for half an hour or so on my way
home.
Bravo!
I use Risc OS for 95% of my usage. Generally I use Techwriter, but I discovered Ovation and it's also a very good software.
Not even a Raspberry Pi?
No. If I absolutely have to do something involving
Windows I go to the library and use their network for
half an hour or so on my way home.
In article <0a06bce45c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>, Harriet
Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
Not even a Raspberry Pi?
No. If I absolutely have to do something involving
Windows I go to the library and use their network for
half an hour or so on my way home.
Ah, but the default(?) OS for the Pi is a variant of Linux.
I'm not sure what it's currently called but it is derived
from Debian; definitely not Windows.
On 7 Jun 2026 as I do recall,
John wrote:
In article <0a06bce45c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
Not even a Raspberry Pi?
No. If I absolutely have to do something involving
Windows I go to the library and use their network for
half an hour or so on my way home.
Ah, but the default(?) OS for the Pi is a variant of
Linux. I'm not sure what it's currently called but it
is derived from Debian; definitely not Windows.
I'm occasionally required to do something involving
Windows. I have never been required by any organisation
to do something involving Linux.
:-p
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