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  • Re: Turbo Vision ... MS-DOS 5 Shell?

    From Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, August 05, 2026 04:13:14
    On 31/07/2026 10:42 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 7/29/2026 8:57 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:

    I used TV in the 90s for a machine control app under DOS. I liked
    it also that days but from a today's view it's not good OOP, just
    as Microsoft Foundation Classes.


    I remember it. But it never took off, right?
    You have to mention DOS 5's shell as well,
    and maybe Norton Commander?

    The same went to Turbo C++ and then Borland
    C++.

    MS-DOS Shell - BetaWiki
    <https://betawiki.net/wiki/MS-DOS_Shell>

    Norton Commander - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Commander>


    I remember DOS 5's shell. I didn't use it much,
    nor Norton Commander. On the other tentacle, I
    sometimes use Far Manager in modern Windows. It's
    nice enough, but I've not gotten used to it yet.

    Can you recommend a better Norton Commander clone?
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  • From Andriy D@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, August 05, 2026 11:38:50
    In comp.os.msdos.programmer Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:

    I remember DOS 5's shell. I didn't use it much,
    nor Norton Commander. On the other tentacle, I
    sometimes use Far Manager in modern Windows. It's
    nice enough, but I've not gotten used to it yet.

    Can you recommend a better Norton Commander clone?

    You can try Total Commander for more 'windows' look & feel. Midnight Commander is an OSS NC clone close to the original NC worth looking at too, as it works on Linux and UNIX in general.

    TTY,
    \aID

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  • From JJ@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, August 05, 2026 20:46:31
    On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 04:13:14 +0800, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:

    I remember DOS 5's shell. I didn't use it much,
    nor Norton Commander. On the other tentacle, I
    sometimes use Far Manager in modern Windows. It's
    nice enough, but I've not gotten used to it yet.

    Can you recommend a better Norton Commander clone?

    Volkov Commander shareware (but includes source code in their site).
    Probably the best one, assuming that, free and non-free is not an issue.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkov_Commander?useskin=vector

    Dos Navigator open source freeware. The only alternative to NC which is
    free. But it uses Turbo Vision, so it's not memory efficient.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS_Navigator?useskin=vector

    Other NC alternatives are not included, since they're either not true NC alternative (e.g. DOS Shell), or not a proper _DOS_ file manager (e.g.
    Midnight Commander, including all cross-platform ones).

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