• Finding Things in Android

    From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Friday, September 11, 2026 16:56:13

    I am setting up a new device with Android 16, Android programmers seem to
    have reached the sane state as Windows programmers, fiddling round hiding things because they are bored.

    Can anybody help with:

    Getting rid of the "Google" box on the home screen, sometimes you can turn
    it off in settings, sometimes you can drag it to a delete icon, in 16 I
    just can't see how to get rid of it.

    Changing the order of home screens, I used to be able to give a long press
    on a home screen and then change the order, I can't see how to do that now.

    Stop odd app icons appearing at the bottom of the home screen, I used to
    be able to turn that off but can't find that option now.

    Is there any way to bring the old navigation marker back? I can get to
    places by wiping upwards on the screen but I can's see what apps are
    running.

    Any help much appreciated :-)

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Friday, September 11, 2026 17:17:42
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I am setting up a new device with Android 16, Android programmers seem to have reached the sane state as Windows programmers, fiddling round hiding things because they are bored.

    Can anybody help with:

    First tell us which brand and model you have, then we might be able to
    help.

    What you're asking is probably brand/model dependent, because most
    (all?) what you're asking is no problem on my Samsung Galaxy A56 (also
    with Android 16).

    Getting rid of the "Google" box on the home screen, sometimes you can turn it off in settings, sometimes you can drag it to a delete icon, in 16 I just can't see how to get rid of it.

    *Which* "Google' box? The *search* one (wide ellips form box) or the
    *news* one (which has 'news' items you can doomscroll) or yet another? Remember, 'Google' is many different things.

    Changing the order of home screens, I used to be able to give a long press on a home screen and then change the order, I can't see how to do that now.

    Stop odd app icons appearing at the bottom of the home screen, I used to
    be able to turn that off but can't find that option now.

    Is there any way to bring the old navigation marker back? I can get to places by wiping upwards on the screen but I can's see what apps are running.

    Any help much appreciated :-)

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  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Friday, September 11, 2026 17:32:35
    On 11/09/2026 in message <1181k4b.848.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
    Frank Slootweg wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I am setting up a new device with Android 16, Android programmers seem to >>have reached the sane state as Windows programmers, fiddling round hiding >>things because they are bored.

    Can anybody help with:

    First tell us which brand and model you have, then we might be able to
    help.

    Sorry, TABWEE T60 12 Inch Android 16 with LTE. Supposed to have 8 GB RAM +
    16 GB virtual but only seems to have 6 GB so thinking about that :-(


    What you're asking is probably brand/model dependent, because most
    (all?) what you're asking is no problem on my Samsung Galaxy A56 (also
    with Android 16).

    It is supposed to be vanilla Android without anything like MUI sitting on
    top of it.


    Getting rid of the "Google" box on the home screen, sometimes you can turn >>it off in settings, sometimes you can drag it to a delete icon, in 16 I >>just can't see how to get rid of it.

    Which "Google' box? The search one (wide ellips form box) or the
    news one (which has 'news' items you can doomscroll) or yet another? >Remember, 'Google' is many different things.

    It's the search box, no idea why it has pride of place


    Changing the order of home screens, I used to be able to give a long press >>on a home screen and then change the order, I can't see how to do that >>now.

    Stop odd app icons appearing at the bottom of the home screen, I used to
    be able to turn that off but can't find that option now.

    Is there any way to bring the old navigation marker back? I can get to >>places by wiping upwards on the screen but I can's see what apps are >>running.

    Found these now!


    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    This joke was so funny when I heard it for the first time I fell of my dinosaur.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Friday, September 11, 2026 17:36:45
    On 11/09/2026 in message <ngiqkqFhv8qU1@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns
    wrote:

    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Getting rid of the "Google" box on the home screen, sometimes you can >>turn it off in settings, sometimes you can drag it to a delete icon, in >>16 I just can't see how to get rid of it.

    You'll probably need to install a 3rd party launcher

    I have used Nova Launcher in the past but didn't something odd happen to it?


    Changing the order of home screens, I used to be able to give a long >>press on a home screen and then change the order, I can't see how to do >>that now.

    I never remember being able to do that, again find a launcher that allows
    it
    Stop odd app icons appearing at the bottom of the home screen, I used to >>be able to turn that off but can't find that option now.

    Normally they appear after installing apps, there's a setting "add new
    apps to home screen" search for that within settings

    After I have used an app it's appearing in the launch bar at the bottom of
    the screen I think it is called preferred apps or suggested apps.


    Is there any way to bring the old navigation marker back? I can get to >>places by wiping upwards on the screen but I can's see what apps are >>running.

    turn off gesture navigation, again search in settings for for gesture or >navigation

    Thanks found it!

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The only thing Flat Earthers fear is sphere itself.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Friday, September 11, 2026 17:48:28
    A little earlier, I wrote:
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    [...]

    Getting rid of the "Google" box on the home screen, sometimes you can turn it off in settings, sometimes you can drag it to a delete icon, in 16 I just can't see how to get rid of it.

    *Which* "Google' box? The *search* one (wide ellips form box) or the
    *news* one (which has 'news' items you can doomscroll) or yet another? Remember, 'Google' is many different things.

    This news-type 'Google' app is apparently also known as 'Google
    Discover'. Search on 'Discover' in your Settings. (On my phone it's set
    to appear by swiping the Home screen to the right. In my Settings it's
    under 'Add media page to home screen'.)

    [...]

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Friday, September 11, 2026 18:05:32
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 11/09/2026 in message <1181k4b.848.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    [...]
    First tell us which brand and model you have, then we might be able to
    help.

    Sorry, TABWEE T60 12 Inch Android 16 with LTE. Supposed to have 8 GB RAM + 16 GB virtual but only seems to have 6 GB so thinking about that :-(

    OK. Can't help with that one. A bit out of the ordinary. Perhaps
    someone else can help.

    What you're asking is probably brand/model dependent, because most
    (all?) what you're asking is no problem on my Samsung Galaxy A56 (also
    with Android 16).

    It is supposed to be vanilla Android without anything like MUI sitting on top of it.

    As far as the 'launcher' ('MUI' in your case?) and (general)
    'Settings' are concerned, there is no such thing as "vanilla Android".

    Samsung phones are different from Motorola phones which are different
    from (Google) Pixel phones, etc., ad infinitum.

    So for all configuration/settings/UI/etc. questions, you always need
    to mention the brand and model (and Android version, which you did
    mention).

    Getting rid of the "Google" box on the home screen, sometimes you can turn >>it off in settings, sometimes you can drag it to a delete icon, in 16 I >>just can't see how to get rid of it.

    Which "Google' box? The search one (wide ellips form box) or the
    news one (which has 'news' items you can doomscroll) or yet another? >Remember, 'Google' is many different things.

    It's the search box, no idea why it has pride of place

    On my phone, I can just long-press the icon and then get (amongst
    others) 'Remove'.

    [...]

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  • From Nuno Silva@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, September 12, 2026 00:39:22
    On 2026-09-11, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 11/09/2026 in message <1181k4b.848.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    [...]
    First tell us which brand and model you have, then we might be able to
    help.

    Sorry, TABWEE T60 12 Inch Android 16 with LTE. Supposed to have 8 GB RAM + >> 16 GB virtual but only seems to have 6 GB so thinking about that :-(

    OK. Can't help with that one. A bit out of the ordinary. Perhaps
    someone else can help.

    What you're asking is probably brand/model dependent, because most
    (all?) what you're asking is no problem on my Samsung Galaxy A56 (also
    with Android 16).

    It is supposed to be vanilla Android without anything like MUI sitting on >> top of it.

    As far as the 'launcher' ('MUI' in your case?) and (general)
    'Settings' are concerned, there is no such thing as "vanilla
    Android".

    I suppose Jeff may have meant MIUI, one of the few systems referred to
    with a different name (not sure how different from AOSP it is),
    although, yes, it's quite common for manufacturers to have modified
    builds, sometimes more heavily modified, and this is not just about
    bundled apps, but parts of the system interface itself, like settings
    (although that technically is likely a bundled app too...)

    Samsung phones are different from Motorola phones which are different
    from (Google) Pixel phones, etc., ad infinitum.

    So for all configuration/settings/UI/etc. questions, you always need
    to mention the brand and model (and Android version, which you did
    mention).

    Getting rid of the "Google" box on the home screen, sometimes you can turn >> >>it off in settings, sometimes you can drag it to a delete icon, in 16 I
    just can't see how to get rid of it.

    Which "Google' box? The search one (wide ellips form box) or the
    news one (which has 'news' items you can doomscroll) or yet another?
    Remember, 'Google' is many different things.

    It's the search box, no idea why it has pride of place

    On my phone, I can just long-press the icon and then get (amongst
    others) 'Remove'.

    [...]

    Yeah, but this is indeed launcher-dependent, so you'd need to at least
    find out which launcher it is to look up how to configure it.

    I suppose some may also have an option to prevent changing the home
    screens accidentally.

    --
    Nuno Silva

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  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, September 12, 2026 07:51:29
    On 12/09/2026 in message <11823fa$39udm$3@dont-email.me> Nuno Silva wrote:

    On 2026-09-11, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 11/09/2026 in message <1181k4b.848.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> >>>Frank Slootweg wrote:
    [...]
    First tell us which brand and model you have, then we might be able to >>>>help.

    Sorry, TABWEE T60 12 Inch Android 16 with LTE. Supposed to have 8 GB RAM >>>+
    16 GB virtual but only seems to have 6 GB so thinking about that :-(

    OK. Can't help with that one. A bit out of the ordinary. Perhaps
    someone else can help.

    What you're asking is probably brand/model dependent, because most >>>>(all?) what you're asking is no problem on my Samsung Galaxy A56 (also >>>>with Android 16).

    It is supposed to be vanilla Android without anything like MUI sitting on >>>top of it.

    As far as the 'launcher' ('MUI' in your case?) and (general)
    'Settings' are concerned, there is no such thing as "vanilla
    Android".

    I suppose Jeff may have meant MIUI, one of the few systems referred to
    with a different name (not sure how different from AOSP it is),
    although, yes, it's quite common for manufacturers to have modified
    builds, sometimes more heavily modified, and this is not just about
    bundled apps, but parts of the system interface itself, like settings >(although that technically is likely a bundled app too...)

    Android reviews always mention the interface sitting on top of Android and praise those devices where it is pure Android.

    Samsung uses OneUI, Huawei uses EMUI etc.

    The TABWEE said in the blurb:
    Latest Native Android 16 & Gemini AI Assistant: Step into the future with
    the newest Native Android 16 OS. Our clean, fast, and privacy-optimised
    system is completely free of bloatware. Integrated with Google Gemini AI

    The bit about no bloatware is crap of course!


    Samsung phones are different from Motorola phones which are different >>from (Google) Pixel phones, etc., ad infinitum.

    So for all configuration/settings/UI/etc. questions, you always need
    to mention the brand and model (and Android version, which you did >>mention).

    Getting rid of the "Google" box on the home screen, sometimes you can >>>>>turn
    it off in settings, sometimes you can drag it to a delete icon, in 16 I >>>>>just can't see how to get rid of it.

    Which "Google' box? The search one (wide ellips form box) or the
    news one (which has 'news' items you can doomscroll) or yet another? >>>>Remember, 'Google' is many different things.

    It's the search box, no idea why it has pride of place

    On my phone, I can just long-press the icon and then get (amongst >>others) 'Remove'.

    [...]

    Yeah, but this is indeed launcher-dependent, so you'd need to at least
    find out which launcher it is to look up how to configure it.

    I suppose some may also have an option to prevent changing the home
    screens accidentally.

    Nova gives the option to replace it with something else, previous devices respond to a long click and would remove it.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day.
    Tomorrow, isn't looking good either.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, September 12, 2026 09:18:12
    On 11/09/2026 in message <xn0pung9d3o00ty006@news.individual.net> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:

    Sorry, TABWEE T60 12 Inch Android 16 with LTE. Supposed to have 8 GB RAM + >16 GB virtual but only seems to have 6 GB so thinking about that :-(

    Return started, if they can't get the memory right there s no knowing what else might be wrong. It's an Evri collection (free), wonder if that's as
    good as their deliveries...

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    You know it's cold outside when you go outside and it's cold.

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Jeff Layman@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, September 12, 2026 11:43:04
    On 12/09/2026 10:18, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 11/09/2026 in message <xn0pung9d3o00ty006@news.individual.net> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:

    Sorry, TABWEE T60 12 Inch Android 16 with LTE. Supposed to have 8 GB RAM + >> 16 GB virtual but only seems to have 6 GB so thinking about that :-(

    Return started, if they can't get the memory right there s no knowing what else might be wrong. It's an Evri collection (free), wonder if that's as
    good as their deliveries...
    Why don't you post back here in a year or so and let us know. ;-)

    --
    Jeff

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  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, September 12, 2026 11:04:18
    On 12/09/2026 in message <1183abo$3lv18$1@dont-email.me> Jeff Layman wrote:

    On 12/09/2026 10:18, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 11/09/2026 in message <xn0pung9d3o00ty006@news.individual.net> Jeff >>Gaines wrote:

    Sorry, TABWEE T60 12 Inch Android 16 with LTE. Supposed to have 8 GB RAM >>>+
    16 GB virtual but only seems to have 6 GB so thinking about that :-(

    Return started, if they can't get the memory right there s no knowing what >>else might be wrong. It's an Evri collection (free), wonder if that's as >>good as their deliveries...
    Why don't you post back here in a year or so and let us know. ;-)

    :-)

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who
    watch them without doing anything. (Albert Einstein)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
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