• Mobile USENET readers

    From Jim the Geordie@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 22, 2026 13:41:43

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

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  • From Jörg Lorenz@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 22, 2026 15:28:53
    On 22.08.26 14:41, Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    Good ones? No.

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  • From Jeff Layman@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 22, 2026 17:11:46
    On 22/08/2026 13:41, Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    Piaohong is just about acceptable for /reading/. Posting is another
    matter. It doesn't appear to be available at the Playstore any more.

    There are some Italian enthusiasts who have rewritten Piaohong to some
    extent. The latest one is still working on it. If you want to see how
    it's going, it's probably best to subscribe to it.tlc.cellulari.android
    and use DeepL or Google to translate the text.

    These mods of Piaohong are only available as *.apk files to download and install.
    See <https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE>

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    Jeff

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  • From Dave Royal@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 22, 2026 18:20:54
    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:

    On 22/08/2026 13:41, Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    Piaohong is just about acceptable for /reading/. Posting is another
    matter. It doesn't appear to be available at the Playstore any more.

    There are some Italian enthusiasts who have rewritten Piaohong to some extent. The latest one is still working on it. If you want to see how
    it's going, it's probably best to subscribe to it.tlc.cellulari.android
    and use DeepL or Google to translate the text.

    These mods of Piaohong are only available as *.apk files to download and install.
    See <https://mega.nz/file/CIhiFKDT#H4FvPyZ_SIWKitPvaUxjKstjNmgPJhyMqwZxI4VkWVE

    mod.PiaoHong, which I use, hasn't been updated since it was
    created in 2024. It was made by decompiling the APK and modifying
    it. Posting works OK.

    I'll repost here part of a recent subthread in the 'SD card vs.
    Esim?' thread:

    AJL <noemail@none.com> Wrote in message:

    On 8/21/26 11:44 PM, Dave Royal wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 22:25:07 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote:
    Dave Royal wrote:
    AJL wrote:

    My favorite Android newsreader was Groundhog. I still used it for
    reading Usenet until just a few days ago When Amazon updated my Fire >>>>> tablet and completely broke it.

    Try Alfio's 2.02_M17_OC from here:
    <https://mega.nz/folder/7yhzFSYA#dGGTmFcuO_ags9lZRrFoqA>
    Filters are inadequate but it's quite usable.

    Unfortunately none of my current Android gear will load the apks. It's
    apparently a security issue...

    It's an old app, minimally modified a few years ago. I run it on Android >>13 and I know folk who run it on recent devices.

    it says it won't install; you tap 'More info' and 'install anyway'
    before running it you have to give it permissions manually to access the >>filestore - files? photos?

    Both my current Android tablets do the same. The popups first say install
    anyway? Then a refusal. Then an override line is offered and tapping that
    with your apk I got another popup that says not installed.

    There's also a new app being tested in it.tlc.cellulari.android. I leave >>you to investigate that.

    So it's clearly difficult to install.

    The newsreader currently being tested in the Italian newsgroup is
    completely new, and unfinished. I've tried it.
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  • From Lumin Etherlight@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, August 23, 2026 12:58:00
    Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> writes:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    One less mentioned possibility, is that you
    can use Termux on your Android, to SSH into your
    server or workstation, and use a CLI / TUI reader
    running on there. This keeps your muscle memory,
    your configurations, your kill-files, and also of
    course your reading state, the same everywhere. I
    also sometimes used Emacs through Termux installed
    on Android, without SSH, and Emacs has my favorite
    Usenet reader; GNUS. If you're into Emacs, and
    don't find using it on Android too annoying, then
    you might enjoy using GNUS on there too. None of
    those options are user-friendly of course, but can
    be perhaps useful to a power user.

    Best Regards,
    Lumin Etherlight

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  • From Ivan Zelenyi@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, August 23, 2026 18:21:35
    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> ??????? ? ?????????:

    There are some Italian enthusiasts who have rewritten Piaohong to some extent. The latest one is still working on it. If you want to see how
    it's going, it's probably best to subscribe to it.tlc.cellulari.android
    and use DeepL or Google to translate the text.

    Thanks! I downloaded it yesterday and installed. Great! )


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    Ivan Zelenyi

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  • From Jeff Layman@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, August 23, 2026 14:48:37
    On 22/08/2026 18:26, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 22/08/2026 13:41, Jim the Geordie wrote:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    Piaohong is just about acceptable for /reading/. Posting is another
    matter. It doesn't appear to be available at the Playstore any more.

    If by "newsreaders" we mean the ability to read & post with an app, there's
    a group for that which showed in the past more than one Android newsreader.
    news.software.readers

    This discussion comes up every year, and there are multiple newsreaders, where it boils down to which is the least worst of those newsreaders.

    In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.

    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as of 6/2026

    It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
    "Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"

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    Jeff

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  • From Jeff Layman@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, August 23, 2026 18:51:59
    On 23/08/2026 16:12, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Jeff Layman wrote:
    In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.
    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as of 6/2026

    It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
    "Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"

    Hi Jeff,

    Oh, wow. Really? That sucks.

    What the heck is "online safety" when it comes to Usenet? WTF?
    They're idiots.

    I just looked and it works for me (in the USA, in California).
    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android>

    I'm going to guess that since porn is on Usenet (as porn is everywhere),
    that "the UK authorities" decided to lock up all of Usenet, in their
    infinite wisdom in applying their sick so-called morals to others?

    Dunno...

    Why else would Usenet web archives be blocked to UK owners?

    Have a look at the first couple of sections here: <https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-safety-act-explainer/online-safety-act-explainer>

    The problem is really the final paragraph of "Who the Act applies to".
    This is why Newsgrouper has cut off access by anyone in the UK
    (generally based on IP address).

    And it could get even tougher. At <https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/170/communications-and-digital-committee/news/217266/online-safety-act-inquiry-launched-by-committee/>,
    published on 27 July, it states "However, serious concerns have been
    raised that the regime is currently ineffective. Ofcom, the regulator
    charged with its implementation and enforcement, has faced criticism for
    not going far enough or fast enough in its efforts to hold online
    services and tech companies to account."

    Mission creep, eh?...

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    Jeff

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  • From Nuno Silva@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, August 23, 2026 19:12:51
    Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> writes:

    Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> writes:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    One less mentioned possibility, is that you
    can use Termux on your Android, to SSH into your
    server or workstation, and use a CLI / TUI reader
    running on there. This keeps your muscle memory,
    your configurations, your kill-files, and also of
    course your reading state, the same everywhere. I
    also sometimes used Emacs through Termux installed
    on Android, without SSH, and Emacs has my favorite
    Usenet reader; GNUS. If you're into Emacs, and
    don't find using it on Android too annoying, then
    you might enjoy using GNUS on there too. None of
    those options are user-friendly of course, but can
    be perhaps useful to a power user.

    Best Regards,
    Lumin Etherlight

    It is at least somewhat usable, the biggest hurdle so far may be the
    software keyboard I'm using (Hacker's Keyboard). Among other issues like
    key placement, it refuses to emit Alt+key for some keys, which
    really comes as a bit inconvenient within Emacsen (it has Esc as a
    separate key and that one seems (so far) to always work).

    Also, the post width, but maybe I can apply tweaks other than
    rotating...

    (No Termux here, though.)

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    Nuno Silva

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  • From Jim the Geordie@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, August 23, 2026 20:13:00
    In article <jm5oqjA23HyOZXdPxms0OS9tvM4NjMIs@etherlight.link>, lumin+usenet@etherlight.link says...

    Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> writes:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    One less mentioned possibility, is that you
    can use Termux on your Android, to SSH into your
    server or workstation, and use a CLI / TUI reader
    running on there. This keeps your muscle memory,
    your configurations, your kill-files, and also of
    course your reading state, the same everywhere. I
    also sometimes used Emacs through Termux installed
    on Android, without SSH, and Emacs has my favorite
    Usenet reader; GNUS. If you're into Emacs, and
    don't find using it on Android too annoying, then
    you might enjoy using GNUS on there too. None of
    those options are user-friendly of course, but can
    be perhaps useful to a power user.

    Best Regards,
    Lumin Etherlight

    Sorry I asked :)

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  • From Woody@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, August 23, 2026 20:13:25
    On Sun 23/08/2026 18:51, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 23/08/2026 16:12, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Jeff Layman wrote:
    In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.
    ÿÿ <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as
    of 6/2026

    It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
    "Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"

    Hi Jeff,

    Oh, wow. Really? That sucks.

    What the heck is "online safety" when it comes to Usenet? WTF?
    They're idiots.

    I just looked and it works for me (in the USA, in California).
    ÿ <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android>

    I'm going to guess that since porn is on Usenet (as porn is everywhere),
    that "the UK authorities" decided to lock up all of Usenet, in their
    infinite wisdom in applying their sick so-called morals to others?

    Dunno...

    Why else would Usenet web archives be blocked to UK owners?

    Have a look at the first couple of sections here: <https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-safety-act-explainer/ online-safety-act-explainer>

    The problem is really the final paragraph of "Who the Act applies to".
    This is why Newsgrouper has cut off access by anyone in the UK
    (generally based on IP address).

    And it could get even tougher. At <https://committees.parliament.uk/ committee/170/communications-and-digital-committee/news/217266/online- safety-act-inquiry-launched-by-committee/>, published on 27 July, it
    states "However, serious concerns have been raised that the regime is currently ineffective. Ofcom, the regulator charged with its
    implementation and enforcement, has faced criticism for not going far
    enough or fast enough in its efforts to hold online services and tech companies to account."

    Mission creep, eh?...


    Try using Eternal-September. I have not found any problems with it i
    nearly 20 years.

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  • From David Wade@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, August 23, 2026 23:46:53
    On 23/08/2026 20:13, Woody wrote:
    On Sun 23/08/2026 18:51, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 23/08/2026 16:12, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Jeff Layman wrote:
    In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.
    ÿÿ <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as >>>>> of 6/2026

    It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
    "Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"

    Hi Jeff,

    Oh, wow. Really? That sucks.

    What the heck is "online safety" when it comes to Usenet? WTF?
    They're idiots.

    I just looked and it works for me (in the USA, in California).
    ÿ <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android>

    I'm going to guess that since porn is on Usenet (as porn is everywhere), >>> that "the UK authorities" decided to lock up all of Usenet, in their
    infinite wisdom in applying their sick so-called morals to others?

    Dunno...

    Why else would Usenet web archives be blocked to UK owners?

    Have a look at the first couple of sections here:
    <https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-safety-act-explainer/ online-safety-act-explainer>

    The problem is really the final paragraph of "Who the Act applies to".
    This is why Newsgrouper has cut off access by anyone in the UK
    (generally based on IP address).

    And it could get even tougher. At <https://committees.parliament.uk/
    committee/170/communications-and-digital-committee/news/217266/online-
    safety-act-inquiry-launched-by-committee/>, published on 27 July, it
    states "However, serious concerns have been raised that the regime is
    currently ineffective. Ofcom, the regulator charged with its
    implementation and enforcement, has faced criticism for not going far
    enough or fast enough in its efforts to hold online services and tech
    companies to account."

    Mission creep, eh?...


    Try using Eternal-September. I have not found any problems with it i
    nearly 20 years.

    Its fine, but the question was readers for mobile devices. "newsgrouper"
    has web pages that work on a mobile device, eternal september doesn't


    Davr

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  • From Trolleybus@3:633/10 to All on Monday, August 24, 2026 09:14:59
    On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 07:12:11 -0800, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

    Jeff Layman wrote:
    In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.
    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as of 6/2026

    It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
    "Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"

    Hi Jeff,

    Oh, wow. Really? That sucks.

    What the heck is "online safety" when it comes to Usenet? WTF?
    They're idiots.

    I just looked and it works for me (in the USA, in California).
    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android>

    I'm going to guess that since porn is on Usenet (as porn is everywhere),
    that "the UK authorities" decided to lock up all of Usenet, in their
    infinite wisdom in applying their sick so-called morals to others?

    Do you think that nobody in the UK is on Usenet?

    What happened is that some non-UK organisations thought it was easier
    to block access to those in the UK rather than try to meet the
    requirements of the Act.

    Dunno...

    Why else would Usenet web archives be blocked to UK owners?

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  • From Colin Macleod@3:633/10 to All on Monday, August 24, 2026 08:59:54
    Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> posted:

    In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.

    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as of 6/2026

    A new one you missed is https://csiph.com/group/comp.mobile.android

    Also both newsgrouper.org and csiph.com support POSTING by registered users.

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  • From Colin Macleod@3:633/10 to All on Monday, August 24, 2026 09:43:45
    Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> posted:

    On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 07:12:11 -0800, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

    Jeff Layman wrote:
    In addition, there are web pages if READING is truly the only goal.
    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android> <== still works as of 6/2026

    It's unfortunately not available in the UK unless a VPN is used:
    "Blocked due to UK Online Safety Act"

    Hi Jeff,

    Oh, wow. Really? That sucks.

    What the heck is "online safety" when it comes to Usenet? WTF?
    They're idiots.

    I just looked and it works for me (in the USA, in California).
    <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android>

    I'm going to guess that since porn is on Usenet (as porn is everywhere), >that "the UK authorities" decided to lock up all of Usenet, in their >infinite wisdom in applying their sick so-called morals to others?

    Do you think that nobody in the UK is on Usenet?

    What happened is that some non-UK organisations thought it was easier
    to block access to those in the UK rather than try to meet the
    requirements of the Act.

    Newsgrouper.org is my site, I'm just an individual not an organisation
    with a legal team, and I *am* in the UK so it would be risky for me to
    ignore UK law. The Online Safety Act applies to all services accessible
    in the UK which provide "User to user" communication facilities.
    The requirements of the Online Safety Act are far-reaching but not
    very clearly defined, and the penalties for non-compliance can be
    severe.

    When the act was introduced I spent considerable time studying it.
    The official guidance produced by Ofcom runs to a few thousand pages!
    You are required to undertake and document complicated reviews of
    your service across many specified potential risk areas. You are
    then required to respond any reports of such problems and remove
    anything problematic. BUT you also have a duty to preserve your users'
    rights to free speech. There are no clear definitions of where the
    line between these potentially conflicting obligations should be drawn.

    To take just one example, the legality of "assisted dying" has been a
    live political issue here in the last few years. But aid or
    encouragement to commit suicide is one of the types of speech strictly forbidden by the OSA. It is easy to imagine discussion of the general
    question being attacked by opponents of assisted dying and reported
    as a violation of the act.

    So I reached the conclusion that the only practical course for me was
    to block access to my site from my own country :-(

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  • From Jeff Layman@3:633/10 to All on Monday, August 24, 2026 17:46:28
    On 24/08/2026 15:42, Maria Sophia wrote:

    We *need* a non-registration non-nntp web-searchable Usenet archive!
    May I ask all involved, does one exist that works also in the UK?

    <https://csiph.com/search>

    It goes back about 11 years or so.

    --
    Jeff

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  • From Dave Royal@3:633/10 to All on Monday, August 24, 2026 18:10:03
    Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> Wrote in message:


    The newsreader currently being tested in the Italian newsgroup is
    completely new, and unfinished. I've tried it.

    The author of this new Made-in-Italy newsreader, MCSM, has now
    announced it on
    alt.comp.software.newsreaders

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  • From Dave Royal@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, August 25, 2026 15:47:34
    Ivan Zelenyi <iz264279@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> ??????? ? ?????????:

    There are some Italian enthusiasts who have rewritten Piaohong to some
    extent. The latest one is still working on it. If you want to see how
    it's going, it's probably best to subscribe to it.tlc.cellulari.android
    and use DeepL or Google to translate the text.

    Thanks! I downloaded it yesterday and installed. Great! )

    Did you mean mod.PiaoHong.M17 or NeReO?

    If mod.PiaoHong what version of Android? Did you have any
    difficulties installing it and setting it up.
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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, August 26, 2026 11:53:45
    In news.software.readers Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android,news.software.readers,alt.comp.software.newsreaders Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

    Note that these posts sent from news.tcpreset.net were not sent
    by me. I'm not sure if this is a deliberate attempt to advertise
    the newsreader by pretending others are recommending it, or the AI
    slopcode in it is so bad it confused the author's From header with
    mine when they tried to post using it. Either way, I'd avoid it.

    The original "Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid>" is
    currently only posting from the server at news.ausics.net.

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  • From Ivan Zelenyi@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, August 26, 2026 07:32:58
    Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> ??????? ? ?????????:

    If mod.PiaoHong what version of Android? Did you have any
    difficulties installing it and setting it up.

    mod.PiaoHong.M17
    OS: Android 10
    Phone: HUAWEI EVE-LX9N

    There were no problems with settings this application. It's easier
    to set up than the Aftershock client for fidonet =)

    Respect!


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    Ivan Zelenyi

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  • From Dave Royal@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, August 26, 2026 07:51:30
    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> Wrote in message:

    In news.software.readers Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android,news.software.readers,alt.comp.software.newsreaders >> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

    Note that these posts sent from news.tcpreset.net were not sent
    by me. I'm not sure if this is a deliberate attempt to advertise
    the newsreader by pretending others are recommending it, or the AI
    slopcode in it is so bad it confused the author's From header with
    mine when they tried to post using it. Either way, I'd avoid it.

    Strange. I recommend anyone interested in NeReO to follow its
    progress in it.tlc.cellulari.android. There is a new version
    every day - two yesterday! I think it suits phones more than
    tablets; on my 10" tablet it's still work in progress. The source
    is available.

    mod.PiaoHong, which I use, hasn't been updated since it was
    created in 2024 from a 10yo app that was still in the PlayStore
    but no longer worked. It was made (by Alfio from the same NG) by
    decompiling the APK and minimally modifying it to run on the then
    latest version of Android. (I modified mine further to remove the
    advertising banner.) I run it on Android 13 and I know folk who
    run it on more recent devices but IDK if it's installable on
    Android 17.

    It's ages since I installed it but IIRC:
    - you allow installation of non-playstore apps somewhere in
    settings, security
    - it says it won't install; you tap 'More info' and 'install anyway'
    - before running it you have to give it permissions manually to
    access the filestore - files? photos?

    It's usable. The main weakness is the lack of easy or effective
    filtering. (NeReO looks like being better in that area - e.g a
    Plonk button.)

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  • From Colin Macleod@3:633/10 to All on Monday, August 31, 2026 14:17:15
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> posted:

    Jeff Layman wrote:

    Maria Sophia wrote:

    We *need* a non-registration non-nntp web-searchable Usenet archive!
    May I ask all involved, does one exist that works also in the UK?

    <https://csiph.com/search>
    It seems to have been suffering from overload the past few days ...


    I wonder if it getting hit by the same AI scrapers I've been seeing
    recently on newsgrouper.org ?

    --
    Colin Macleod ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ https://cmacleod.me.uk

    FEED GAZA NOW! SAVE GAZA NOW! HOUSE GAZA NOW! FEED GAZA NOW!

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  • From Librarian2025@3:633/10 to All on Monday, August 31, 2026 19:32:56

    Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> writes:

    Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> writes:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    One less mentioned possibility, is that you
    can use Termux on your Android, to SSH into your
    server or workstation, and use a CLI / TUI reader
    running on there. This keeps your muscle memory,
    your configurations, your kill-files, and also of
    course your reading state, the same everywhere. I
    also sometimes used Emacs through Termux installed
    on Android, without SSH, and Emacs has my favorite
    Usenet reader; GNUS. If you're into Emacs, and
    don't find using it on Android too annoying, then
    you might enjoy using GNUS on there too. None of
    those options are user-friendly of course, but can
    be perhaps useful to a power user.

    Best Regards,
    Lumin Etherlight

    Can't imagine using Gnus with phone's virtual keyboard.

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  • From Nuno Silva@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, September 01, 2026 10:55:49
    Librarian2025 <librarian2025@cock.li> writes:

    Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> writes:

    Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.co.uk> writes:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    One less mentioned possibility, is that you
    can use Termux on your Android, to SSH into your
    server or workstation, and use a CLI / TUI reader
    running on there. This keeps your muscle memory,
    your configurations, your kill-files, and also of
    course your reading state, the same everywhere. I
    also sometimes used Emacs through Termux installed
    on Android, without SSH, and Emacs has my favorite
    Usenet reader; GNUS. If you're into Emacs, and
    don't find using it on Android too annoying, then
    you might enjoy using GNUS on there too. None of
    those options are user-friendly of course, but can
    be perhaps useful to a power user.

    Best Regards,
    Lumin Etherlight

    Can't imagine using Gnus with phone's virtual keyboard.

    It probably depends a lot on the keyboard in question. I'm using
    Hacker's keyboard, but that's showing to be limited, besides Alt not
    always working, I also cannot undo... Even though this one is already
    better than others...

    I should see what else exists that works acceptably. IIRC Emacs'
    documentation does mention some customizable keyboard app.

    --
    Nuno Silva

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  • From Anton Shepelev@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, September 01, 2026 15:42:13
    Jim the Geordie:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    I really like HotdogEd, an NNTP and FidoNet client for
    Android. It is very good, uses an elegant approach to
    displaying and composing hard-wrapped messages on the
    smartphone. Unfortunately, it is discontinued, but last
    time I tried it is still worked on Android 13, after I have
    come through the motions of preventing the aggressive power-
    save from killing its background service. On some
    smartphones, it is achieved by including HotdogEd into the
    list of "non-sleeping apps". But I no longer have a
    smartphone.

    The last official HotdogEd:

    https://fidonet.fi/pub/hotdoged/

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    /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments

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  • From Dave Royal@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, September 01, 2026 19:18:48
    Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> Wrote in message:

    Jim the Geordie:

    Are there any good new readers for androids?

    I really like HotdogEd, an NNTP and FidoNet client for
    Android. It is very good, uses an elegant approach to
    displaying and composing hard-wrapped messages on the
    smartphone. Unfortunately, it is discontinued, but last
    time I tried it is still worked on Android 13, after I have
    come through the motions of preventing the aggressive power-
    save from killing its background service. On some
    smartphones, it is achieved by including HotdogEd into the
    list of "non-sleeping apps". But I no longer have a
    smartphone.

    The last official HotdogEd:

    https://fidonet.fi/pub/hotdoged/

    I've tried it on this Android 13 tablet. I got it to work, but it
    was a lot of work to install. It had some neat features. But,
    yes, it wouldn't sleep so I zapped it.
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    Remove numerics from my email address.

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  • From Ivan Zelenyi@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, September 02, 2026 09:11:22
    Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> ??????? ? ?????????:

    I really like HotdogEd, an NNTP and FidoNet client for
    Android. It is very good, uses an elegant approach to
    displaying and composing hard-wrapped messages on the
    smartphone.

    In Hotdoged with nntp provider, when accidentally read an message
    with file attachment (photos..), the application freezes strongly
    :(((


    --
    With best regards,
    Ivan Zelenyi

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