On my Samsung/Android phone, I can access the camera functions with a click
and a swipe--no logon.

I'm wondering what *should* prevent us from doing the same for the clock functions?

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croy

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croy, 2026-07-18 17:00:

On my Samsung/Android phone, I can access the camera functions with a click and a swipe--no logon.

I'm wondering what *should* prevent us from doing the same for the clock functions?

The software running on the phone.


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On 2026-07-21 16:24, Arno Welzel wrote:

croy, 2026-07-18 17:00:

On my Samsung/Android phone, I can access the camera functions with a click >> and a swipe--no logon.

I'm wondering what *should* prevent us from doing the same for the clock
functions?

The software running on the phone.

AFAIK adjusting the clock is a privileged operation. Possibly not
allowed at all on modern phones.

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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On 2026-07-21 19:51, Andy Burns wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

Arno Welzel wrote:

croy wrote:

On my Samsung/Android phone, I can access the camera functions
with a click and a swipe--no logon.

I'm wondering what *should* prevent us from doing the same for the
clock
functions?

The software running on the phone.

AFAIK adjusting the clock is a privileged operation. Possibly not
allowed at all on modern phones.

On my Pixel 8a (running android17) I go into

ÿÿÿÿSettings > System > Date & Time

by default Automatic Date & Time is turned on, which means you can't
adjust them manually, so turn that off

Then a calendar picker and clock picker which were previously greyed-out
are enabled.

The same applies to my Samsung tablet (running android16/One UI 8.5) within

ÿÿÿÿSettings > General Management > Date & Time

except the calendar and clock pickers get hidden, rather than greyed
when Automatic is enabled.

Ah, yes.

Long ago the smartphone would not get the time right, automatically.
There was an app to adjust the clock with better accuracy,
automatically, using NTP. This worked nicely.

But at some point Android made the operation privileged, so the app
stopped working. It would warn when the time differed, set a time, and
the user had to press enter to accept the proposed time (doing it at the
exact second would do the operation accurately).

Some years after that the phone got accurate time automatically, so that
tool is not necessary.

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Carlos E.R.
ES??, EU??;

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Carlos E. R., 2026-07-21 19:32:

On 2026-07-21 16:24, Arno Welzel wrote:

croy, 2026-07-18 17:00:

On my Samsung/Android phone, I can access the camera functions with a click >>> and a swipe--no logon.

I'm wondering what *should* prevent us from doing the same for the clock >>> functions?

The software running on the phone.

AFAIK adjusting the clock is a privileged operation. Possibly not
allowed at all on modern phones.

No, Android also allows to manually set date and time. Don't confuse
"accessing the clock functions with a swipe without logon" with "change date/time".


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Arno Welzel
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