• App-suggested ads

    From Jeff Layman@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 09, 2026 10:31:32
    A notification about App-suggested ads appeared on the lockscreen this morning. Is there some sort of rolling push that Google is using, as
    these have been around for some time? I thought I'd seen this notice previously and disabled ads in Settings, but when I checked they were
    on. They're off now.

    --
    Jeff


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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 09, 2026 14:42:02
    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    A notification about App-suggested ads appeared on the lockscreen this morning. Is there some sort of rolling push that Google is using, as
    these have been around for some time? I thought I'd seen this notice previously and disabled ads in Settings, but when I checked they were
    on. They're off now.

    On my Samsung Galaxy A56 phone, under Settings -> Security and Privacy
    More privacy settings, Google section, I tap on Ads at the bottom.

    Under Ad privacy, all the options are disabled: ad topics, app-suggested
    ads, and ad measurement.

    There is a Delete advertising ID which says "Apps can no longer use this advertising ID to show you personalized ads". That doesn't say the apps
    cannot show you ads, but won't have an ID by which to track you. Of
    course, since most users don't disable/delete the ID, fingerprinting can identify you as part of a smaller populace.

    Reset advertising ID just assigns you a new one. After deleting your advertising ID, you may see a menu option to "Get new advertising ID"
    (in place of the "Reset advertising ID" option). Don't touch that;
    else, you've effectively reset the ID instead of deleting it.

    I think in Android 12, and earlier, you could only reset your ID. Don't
    know when Google introduced the delete ID option. Apps can have their
    own ad settings, like incorporate their own ID.

    Back under the More privacy settings page, under the Google section,
    Activity controls configure your Google account privacy settings. For Personalized Recommendations in Search services, I have that off. I
    turned off Play Personalization. I left Web & App Activity enabled
    since sometimes it is handy in Google Maps. The shortest interval for auto-delete of this history is 3 months, and that's what I use. Same
    for location history (where Google Maps can show where I've been). I
    couldn't give a gnat's fart about Youtube history, but I cannot disable
    it separately of the other auto-delete options, like have Youtube
    history auto-deleted after a week, but others auto-delete after 3
    months. However, back in the activity screen, I can entirely turn off
    Youtube history. Nothing to auto-delete since it's not recorded. Under Personalized ads, it is off.

    Back in the more privacy settings page, under Google section, there is
    the Android personalization service. That monitors your app usage, text
    input, and browsing habits to provide "personalized" suggestions and recommendations. Instead of tapping the on/off toggle, tap on the entry
    to get more info. No thanks. Turned that off. I don't need any
    handholding nor any of the AI crap.

    Back in the more privacy settings page is a Samsung section. Decide if
    you want to keep sending telemetry data in the background to Samsung.
    They collect this data to promote their other services and products
    along with improving software performance. I turned that off. Maybe
    you want to help them out.

    Lastly in the more privacy settings page under the Samsung section is
    Personal data intelligence. More AI bloatware. More data harvesting.
    It can also change system settings. Supposedly Samsung claims the
    analysis is entirely local, except why would it be changing system
    settings unless directed by Samsung, or their KNOX and KEEP
    technologies? I turned this off.

    https://research.samsung.com/data-intelligence https://quebectest.com/en/samsung-personal-data-intelligence-disable-privacy

    You don't need to be paranoid about your privacy to want your phone
    consuming less CPU, and save battery power by eliminating all this
    backgrounded AI or "assistance" crap.

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 09, 2026 14:49:15
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    A notification about App-suggested ads appeared on the lockscreen this
    morning. Is there some sort of rolling push that Google is using, as
    these have been around for some time? I thought I'd seen this notice
    previously and disabled ads in Settings, but when I checked they were
    on. They're off now.

    On my Samsung Galaxy A56 phone, under Settings -> Security and Privacy
    More privacy settings, Google section, I tap on Ads at the bottom.

    Under Ad privacy, all the options are disabled: ad topics, app-suggested
    ads, and ad measurement.

    There is a Delete advertising ID which says "Apps can no longer use this advertising ID to show you personalized ads". That doesn't say the apps cannot show you ads, but won't have an ID by which to track you. Of
    course, since most users don't disable/delete the ID, fingerprinting can identify you as part of a smaller populace.

    Reset advertising ID just assigns you a new one. After deleting your advertising ID, you may see a menu option to "Get new advertising ID"
    (in place of the "Reset advertising ID" option). Don't touch that;
    else, you've effectively reset the ID instead of deleting it.

    I think in Android 12, and earlier, you could only reset your ID. Don't
    know when Google introduced the delete ID option. Apps can have their
    own ad settings, like incorporate their own ID.

    Back under the More privacy settings page, under the Google section,
    Activity controls configure your Google account privacy settings. For Personalized Recommendations in Search services, I have that off. I
    turned off Play Personalization. I left Web & App Activity enabled
    since sometimes it is handy in Google Maps. The shortest interval for auto-delete of this history is 3 months, and that's what I use. Same
    for location history (where Google Maps can show where I've been). I couldn't give a gnat's fart about Youtube history, but I cannot disable
    it separately of the other auto-delete options, like have Youtube
    history auto-deleted after a week, but others auto-delete after 3
    months. However, back in the activity screen, I can entirely turn off Youtube history. Nothing to auto-delete since it's not recorded. Under Personalized ads, it is off.

    Back in the more privacy settings page, under Google section, there is
    the Android personalization service. That monitors your app usage, text input, and browsing habits to provide "personalized" suggestions and recommendations. Instead of tapping the on/off toggle, tap on the entry
    to get more info. No thanks. Turned that off. I don't need any
    handholding nor any of the AI crap.

    Back in the more privacy settings page is a Samsung section. Decide if
    you want to keep sending telemetry data in the background to Samsung.
    They collect this data to promote their other services and products
    along with improving software performance. I turned that off. Maybe
    you want to help them out.

    Lastly in the more privacy settings page under the Samsung section is Personal data intelligence. More AI bloatware. More data harvesting.
    It can also change system settings. Supposedly Samsung claims the
    analysis is entirely local, except why would it be changing system
    settings unless directed by Samsung, or their KNOX and KEEP
    technologies? I turned this off.

    https://research.samsung.com/data-intelligence https://quebectest.com/en/samsung-personal-data-intelligence-disable-privacy

    You don't need to be paranoid about your privacy to want your phone
    consuming less CPU, and save battery power by eliminating all this backgrounded AI or "assistance" crap.

    Oh, and under Settings -> Security and privacy -> Security section,
    Account security -> Samsung account security, scroll down to the User Agreements section, and disable "Get news and special offers" and
    "Improve personalized ads with Samsung account data".

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  • From Jeff Layman@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 11, 2026 09:33:43
    On 09/07/2026 20:49, VanguardLH wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    A notification about App-suggested ads appeared on the lockscreen this
    morning. Is there some sort of rolling push that Google is using, as
    these have been around for some time? I thought I'd seen this notice
    previously and disabled ads in Settings, but when I checked they were
    on. They're off now.

    On my Samsung Galaxy A56 phone, under Settings -> Security and Privacy
    More privacy settings, Google section, I tap on Ads at the bottom.

    Under Ad privacy, all the options are disabled: ad topics, app-suggested
    ads, and ad measurement.

    Same here with my Xiaomi, although it's just under "Privacy" rather than "Security and Privacy"

    There is a Delete advertising ID which says "Apps can no longer use this
    advertising ID to show you personalized ads". That doesn't say the apps
    cannot show you ads, but won't have an ID by which to track you. Of
    course, since most users don't disable/delete the ID, fingerprinting can
    identify you as part of a smaller populace.

    I think that this appears within a Xiaomi account, which I don't have.
    It might also occur with a Google account, which I do have. I'll have to
    check later.

    Reset advertising ID just assigns you a new one. After deleting your
    advertising ID, you may see a menu option to "Get new advertising ID"
    (in place of the "Reset advertising ID" option). Don't touch that;
    else, you've effectively reset the ID instead of deleting it.

    I think in Android 12, and earlier, you could only reset your ID. Don't
    know when Google introduced the delete ID option. Apps can have their
    own ad settings, like incorporate their own ID.

    Back under the More privacy settings page, under the Google section,
    Activity controls configure your Google account privacy settings. For
    Personalized Recommendations in Search services, I have that off. I
    turned off Play Personalization. I left Web & App Activity enabled
    since sometimes it is handy in Google Maps. The shortest interval for
    auto-delete of this history is 3 months, and that's what I use. Same
    for location history (where Google Maps can show where I've been). I
    couldn't give a gnat's fart about Youtube history, but I cannot disable
    it separately of the other auto-delete options, like have Youtube
    history auto-deleted after a week, but others auto-delete after 3
    months. However, back in the activity screen, I can entirely turn off
    Youtube history. Nothing to auto-delete since it's not recorded. Under
    Personalized ads, it is off.

    I've always had everything set to "off".


    Back in the more privacy settings page, under Google section, there is
    the Android personalization service. That monitors your app usage, text
    input, and browsing habits to provide "personalized" suggestions and
    recommendations. Instead of tapping the on/off toggle, tap on the entry
    to get more info. No thanks. Turned that off. I don't need any
    handholding nor any of the AI crap.

    Back in the more privacy settings page is a Samsung section. Decide if
    you want to keep sending telemetry data in the background to Samsung.
    They collect this data to promote their other services and products
    along with improving software performance. I turned that off. Maybe
    you want to help them out.

    Lastly in the more privacy settings page under the Samsung section is
    Personal data intelligence. More AI bloatware. More data harvesting.
    It can also change system settings. Supposedly Samsung claims the
    analysis is entirely local, except why would it be changing system
    settings unless directed by Samsung, or their KNOX and KEEP
    technologies? I turned this off.

    https://research.samsung.com/data-intelligence
    https://quebectest.com/en/samsung-personal-data-intelligence-disable-privacy >>
    You don't need to be paranoid about your privacy to want your phone
    consuming less CPU, and save battery power by eliminating all this
    backgrounded AI or "assistance" crap.

    Oh, and under Settings -> Security and privacy -> Security section,
    Account security -> Samsung account security, scroll down to the User Agreements section, and disable "Get news and special offers" and
    "Improve personalized ads with Samsung account data".

    I'm not sure how much of what is on your Samsung is on my Xiaomi,
    perhaps under a different heading. I turn off what I can turn off, but
    in general don't use the phone for anything private, banking, paying for things, logging on, etc, which would add data to Google's database. It's basically impossible without a lot of effort to keep chasing and
    resetting manufacturer and Android nosiness, especially when they rename and/or repurpose system apps.

    --
    Jeff

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, July 11, 2026 12:34:01
    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I'm not sure how much of what is on your Samsung is on my Xiaomi,
    perhaps under a different heading.

    Phone makers like to customize their instance of Android to
    differentiate themselves. Even settings can be grouped differently;
    however, often the options have similar names. Try using the search box
    in Settings to see if you find similarly named options wherever the
    phone maker put them.

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  • From Nuno Silva@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 12, 2026 09:55:45
    On 2026-07-11, VanguardLH wrote:

    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I'm not sure how much of what is on your Samsung is on my Xiaomi,
    perhaps under a different heading.

    Phone makers like to customize their instance of Android to
    differentiate themselves. Even settings can be grouped differently;
    however, often the options have similar names.

    Of course YMMV but I'd say that's stupid. Wouldn't they want people to
    be able to use their phones more easily if they're already used to the platform?

    Try using the search box
    in Settings to see if you find similarly named options wherever the
    phone maker put them.

    Sigh. The Windows Vista approach to UI discoverability? :-P

    --
    Nuno Silva

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, July 12, 2026 13:05:09
    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-07-11, VanguardLH wrote:

    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I'm not sure how much of what is on your Samsung is on my Xiaomi,
    perhaps under a different heading.

    Phone makers like to customize their instance of Android to
    differentiate themselves. Even settings can be grouped differently;
    however, often the options have similar names.

    Of course YMMV but I'd say that's stupid. Wouldn't they want people to
    be able to use their phones more easily if they're already used to the platform?

    But then that portion of customization is lost. If Google prevented any customization, all phones at the same Android version would all look the
    same, behave the same, and everything, like settings, would be found the
    same way. However, disabling all customization means losing some
    hardware support, too, since different phones can have different
    hardware.

    Try using the search box in Settings to see if you find similarly
    named options wherever the phone maker put them.

    Sigh. The Windows Vista approach to UI discoverability? :-P

    You have another and better method of finding options in the hundreds of
    them on the phone? Wandering through all levels of settings trying to
    find where a phone maker happened to put an option is a lot of wasted
    time.

    Never used the Start menu (instead of the search box, or you disabled
    the superfluous search box) in the taskbar to search for item in the
    Start menu? No need to scroll through trying to find an entry. Just
    start typing it in. A menu-ized list is not necessarily the easiest and
    often not the fastest method to find an entry.

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  • From Nuno Silva@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 14, 2026 17:01:49
    On 2026-07-12, VanguardLH wrote:

    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-07-11, VanguardLH wrote:

    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I'm not sure how much of what is on your Samsung is on my Xiaomi,
    perhaps under a different heading.

    Phone makers like to customize their instance of Android to
    differentiate themselves. Even settings can be grouped differently;
    however, often the options have similar names.

    Of course YMMV but I'd say that's stupid. Wouldn't they want people to
    be able to use their phones more easily if they're already used to the
    platform?

    But then that portion of customization is lost. If Google prevented any customization, all phones at the same Android version would all look the same, behave the same, and everything, like settings, would be found the
    same way. However, disabling all customization means losing some
    hardware support, too, since different phones can have different
    hardware.

    You can do customization without breaking consistency of existing
    options. You could also try to have customizations of wider use adopted
    in similar ways by other manufacturers.

    Try using the search box in Settings to see if you find similarly
    named options wherever the phone maker put them.

    Sigh. The Windows Vista approach to UI discoverability? :-P

    You have another and better method of finding options in the hundreds of
    them on the phone? Wandering through all levels of settings trying to
    find where a phone maker happened to put an option is a lot of wasted
    time.

    A sane hierarcy. Really.

    Never used the Start menu (instead of the search box, or you disabled
    the superfluous search box) in the taskbar to search for item in the
    Start menu? No need to scroll through trying to find an entry. Just
    start typing it in. A menu-ized list is not necessarily the easiest and often not the fastest method to find an entry.

    I think you're underestimating the organization potential of a
    hierarchical menu. The only flaw I remember from Windows' and Windows
    NT's start menu in the "classical" design that was prevalent around
    Windows 4 was the lack of categorization. That part desktops and window managers on top of GNU/Linux often managed much better out of the box,
    at least at some point, with programs organized in subtrees. In Windows,
    IIRC, you'd have to do that manually.

    But the programs list is just a tiny part of the hierarchical
    arrangement of the UI. For example, in Windows 4, the user-exposed
    filesystem interface is rooted at the desktop, and you can access
    e.g. control panels from there (Desktop>My Computer>Control Panel). I
    think the same is true in Windows NT 5.1.

    --
    Nuno Silva

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 14, 2026 13:48:36
    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-07-12, VanguardLH wrote:

    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-07-11, VanguardLH wrote:

    Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I'm not sure how much of what is on your Samsung is on my Xiaomi,
    perhaps under a different heading.

    Phone makers like to customize their instance of Android to
    differentiate themselves. Even settings can be grouped differently;
    however, often the options have similar names.

    Of course YMMV but I'd say that's stupid. Wouldn't they want people to
    be able to use their phones more easily if they're already used to the
    platform?

    But then that portion of customization is lost. If Google prevented any
    customization, all phones at the same Android version would all look the
    same, behave the same, and everything, like settings, would be found the
    same way. However, disabling all customization means losing some
    hardware support, too, since different phones can have different
    hardware.

    You can do customization without breaking consistency of existing
    options. You could also try to have customizations of wider use adopted
    in similar ways by other manufacturers.

    Try using the search box in Settings to see if you find similarly
    named options wherever the phone maker put them.

    Sigh. The Windows Vista approach to UI discoverability? :-P

    You have another and better method of finding options in the hundreds of
    them on the phone? Wandering through all levels of settings trying to
    find where a phone maker happened to put an option is a lot of wasted
    time.

    A sane hierarcy. Really.

    Never used the Start menu (instead of the search box, or you disabled
    the superfluous search box) in the taskbar to search for item in the
    Start menu? No need to scroll through trying to find an entry. Just
    start typing it in. A menu-ized list is not necessarily the easiest and
    often not the fastest method to find an entry.

    I think you're underestimating the organization potential of a
    hierarchical menu. The only flaw I remember from Windows' and Windows
    NT's start menu in the "classical" design that was prevalent around
    Windows 4 was the lack of categorization. That part desktops and window managers on top of GNU/Linux often managed much better out of the box,
    at least at some point, with programs organized in subtrees. In Windows, IIRC, you'd have to do that manually.

    But the programs list is just a tiny part of the hierarchical
    arrangement of the UI. For example, in Windows 4, the user-exposed
    filesystem interface is rooted at the desktop, and you can access
    e.g. control panels from there (Desktop>My Computer>Control Panel). I
    think the same is true in Windows NT 5.1.

    Actually I edited the Start Menu in Windows to be hierarchical by
    category: Applications, Communication, Games, Utilities, etc. I added
    folders in the Start Menu folder, and even added subfolders under there,
    like Start -> Applications -> MS Office -> Word, Excel, etc. Instead of getting stuck with some horrendously long single-level menu strewn with
    lots of entries, I could follow the hierarchy to the program. I had to
    be sure to make equally subfolders under both User and Common Start
    Menues. Yep, I like organization, too. However, it was still a lot
    easier to hit Start, and enter "word" to bring up Word as the first
    candidate in the search. No menu drilling needed no matter how well you organized it. Same reason a search in settings is a lot easier than
    wandering all over in the hierarchical menu. However, you needed some
    notion of what was the name of a setting to find it in a search.

    I could do the hierarchical categorized menuing up to Windows 7. Never
    used 8 or Vista. Microsoft made it far too difficult to do the same in
    Windows 10, so I switched to Start11. If you wanted to flatten all the settings in Windows, use God mode in a shortcut to Control Panel. In
    either mode, search was available. Just too much shiitake to dig
    through to find a setting unless you already knew where it was from
    prior experience, or someone else mentioned the navpath.

    Most times for Android settings, the names of the settings have been the
    same across brands and model of mobile phones. Not always, but usually.
    If looking for settings on notifications, and enabling its log, and
    showing logged past notifications, I could drill down through Settings
    Notifications -> Advanced settings -> Notification history, and there
    turn on logging, and later go there to look at logged notifications.
    Or, in the settings screen, just search on "history" where one of the
    hits is "Notification history". However, I came up with a means to add
    a shortcut to the screen that takes me directly to the logged
    notifications by using Activity Launcher. So, while the settings are in
    a hierarchical order, I can still search to eliminate wading through
    each level, and even speed up faster with a shortcut direct to the
    history (but finding the system event is the hard part).

    The problem with customization is the menu hierarchy doesn't match
    across different brands. I had one path in my Samsung to get to several ad-oriented settings, and Layman had a different navpath on his Xioami.
    And to add insult to injury, seems each version of Android decides to
    group differently the settings. It can infuriating when hunting for
    online help on settings to have someone describe it, but they never
    mention their brand and model of phone, and its Android version.

    "I know engineers. They love to change things." https://youtu.be/Rn2-wALgmMk?t=85

    The worse situation you can have in Development is idle programmers.
    Gives them an opportunity to change something that needed no changing.
    I was in charge of code check-in using CVS, and devs were used to
    checking in changes without changing versioning, so code branches got
    polluted. When I took over, every change required a version change, and
    devs didn't like that since it exposed any change they made. It also
    made discoverable when they made functional changes that weren't
    documented in the Functional Spec or Engineering Spec, but QA was
    expected to allocate time for its testing.

    Sometimes too many cooks spoil the pot. One of them changes the recipe.
    Then the patrons wonder what the hell happened to a good dish.

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