"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote or quoted:
But the question is, have people been having problems with Google Calc
on Android phones?
| Yes, users have reported problems with Google Sheets (often referred to
| as "Calc" in some contexts, but specifically the Google Sheets app) on
| Android phones where files stall when opening, and in some cases, data
| access issues arise.
|
| Key Issues Reported:
|
| Stalling/Freezing on Open Users have reported that Google Sheets can
| freeze or stall while trying to open, particularly with large files.
|
| File Access Issues Users on older Android versions (e.g., Android
| 9/S8) have reported being unable to open any sheets at all, sometimes
| experiencing this after attempting to toggle offline access.
|
| Data Concerns/Lag While data loss is less common, the inability to
| open files (as in the cases mentioned above) creates the perception of
| data loss or unavailability.
|
| Troubleshooting Steps Recommended by Users:
|
| Clear Cache/Cookies Clearing the app?s cache and data can sometimes
| fix loading issues.
|
| Duplicate the File If one sheet is failing, creating a copy of it
| may allow it to open properly.
|
| Check Offline Settings If a file was previously set to "available
| offline," toggling this off and on, or ensuring you have a stable
| connection, can help.
|
| Reinstall the App Uninstalling and reinstalling the Google Sheets
| app has worked for some, though it may not solve the issue
| permanently.
But the question is, have people been having problems with Google Calc
on Android phones?
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how
much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem,
maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version.
Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
The file is simple, some 400 lines and a dozen of columns with two
trivial formulas.
So I searched for an alternative. ChatGPT told me of Collabora Office,
both in F-droid and Google play. Turns out it is not directly on
F-droid, so google play it is.
Opened the file just fine in the computer (FFx opening session on
Google), click download to ODS format, check the local file in Libre
Office Calc, use the USB cable to transfer to the phone, done. Now the spreadsheet is a local file on the phone. Maybe I could use it via
Google Drive. We'll see.
But the question is, have people been having problems with Google Calc
on Android phones?
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Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how
much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem,
maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version.
Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how
much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem,
maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version.
Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
The file is simple, some 400 lines and a dozen of columns with two
trivial formulas.
So I searched for an alternative. ChatGPT told me of Collabora Office,
both in F-droid and Google play. Turns out it is not directly on
F-droid, so google play it is.
There is also OpenOffice for Android which works quite well:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice>
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how
much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem,
maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version.
Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
The file is simple, some 400 lines and a dozen of columns with two
trivial formulas.
So I searched for an alternative. ChatGPT told me of Collabora Office,
both in F-droid and Google play. Turns out it is not directly on
F-droid, so google play it is.
There is also OpenOffice for Android which works quite well:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice>
Opened the file just fine in the computer (FFx opening session on
Google), click download to ODS format, check the local file in Libre
Office Calc, use the USB cable to transfer to the phone, done. Now the
spreadsheet is a local file on the phone. Maybe I could use it via
Google Drive. We'll see.
But the question is, have people been having problems with Google Calc
on Android phones?
I never used Google Office products in my life, so I can't tell.
Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how
much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem,
maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version.
Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
It's also a reminder that "cloud" is not synonymous with "backup".
On 2026-06-30 09:27, Chris wrote:
Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how >>>> much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem, >>>> maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version. >>>> Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
It's also a reminder that "cloud" is not synonymous with "backup".
How do you a backup of a calc sheet that is corrupted the instant you
use it?
Do you do backups every 10 minutes, of the calc sheet files you edit,
every time you save the file? On a phone, while driving?
On 2026-06-30, Arno Welzel wrote:
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how >>> much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem,
maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version.
Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
The file is simple, some 400 lines and a dozen of columns with two
trivial formulas.
So I searched for an alternative. ChatGPT told me of Collabora Office,
both in F-droid and Google play. Turns out it is not directly on
F-droid, so google play it is.
There is also OpenOffice for Android which works quite well:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice>
"In-app purchases"? Also, seems to be under some individual's name,
instead of "Apache Software Foundation"?
On 2026-06-30 08:51, Arno Welzel wrote:
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how
much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem,
maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version.
Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
Seriously?
How would I do a backup while driving?
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice>
No, there is not. It is a viewer only.
I never used Google Office products in my life, so I can't tell.
Sigh.
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-30 11:24:
On 2026-06-30 09:27, Chris wrote:
Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how >>>>> much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem, >>>>> maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version. >>>>> Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could >>>>> open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two >>>>> lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
It's also a reminder that "cloud" is not synonymous with "backup".
How do you a backup of a calc sheet that is corrupted the instant you
use it?
You back it up before opening it of course - and ideally in *many*
versions. My preferred solution is a Nextcloud server which holds every version within the last 60 days and in addition I have Borg backup for
the host which goes back up to 6 months if neccessary.
Do you do backups every 10 minutes, of the calc sheet files you edit,
every time you save the file? On a phone, while driving?
No, daily. At the moment I have 60 versions of every important file for
the last two months and in addition 16 versions for the 4 months before
that (one version per week).
The whole backup repository is around 406 GB - but this includes the
data of my whole family and close friends too who use my servers as well
and alse include a lot of photos and videos.
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-30 11:19:
On 2026-06-30 08:51, Arno Welzel wrote:
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how >>>> much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem, >>>> maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version. >>>> Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
Seriously?
How would I do a backup while driving?
I wouldn't. My files are backed up automatically. See my other post
about that.
[...]>> There is also OpenOffice for Android which works quite well:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice>
No, there is not. It is a viewer only.
I use it - not as a viewer only.
I never used Google Office products in my life, so I can't tell.
Sigh.
Maybe the right opportunity to think about your choice of using Google
Docs instead of alternatives.
On 2026-06-30 09:27, Chris wrote:
Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how >>>> much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem, >>>> maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version. >>>> Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
It's also a reminder that "cloud" is not synonymous with "backup".
How do you a backup of a calc sheet that is corrupted the instant you
use it?
* Open file, add a line.
* File is corrupted, silently.
* make a backup,
ú backup is also corrupted.
Do you do backups every 10 minutes, of the calc sheet files you edit,
every time you save the file?
On a phone, while driving?
Typically you do a backup at the end of the office day, or the week.
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-06-30 09:27, Chris wrote:
Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how >>>>> much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem, >>>>> maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version. >>>>> Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could >>>>> open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two >>>>> lines are lost.
It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
It's also a reminder that "cloud" is not synonymous with "backup".
How do you a backup of a calc sheet that is corrupted the instant you
use it?
It doesn't. This tells you that the tool doesn't meet your needs. Use a
tool that works instead.
* Open file, add a line.
* File is corrupted, silently.
* make a backup,
ú backup is also corrupted.
Do you do backups every 10 minutes, of the calc sheet files you edit,
every time you save the file?
Some systems save all versions of a file.
On a phone, while driving?
I mean, that raises questions of why are you fiddling with your phone while driving?
Typically you do a backup at the end of the office day, or the week.
I do backups hourly.
On 2026-06-30 17:33, Arno Welzel wrote:
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-30 11:24:
How do you a backup of a calc sheet that is corrupted the instant you
use it?
You back it up before opening it of course - and ideally in *many*
versions. My preferred solution is a Nextcloud server which holds every
version within the last 60 days and in addition I have Borg backup for
the host which goes back up to 6 months if neccessary.
Do you do backups every 10 minutes, of the calc sheet files you edit,
every time you save the file? On a phone, while driving?
No, daily. At the moment I have 60 versions of every important file for
the last two months and in addition 16 versions for the 4 months before
that (one version per week).
Daily doesn't solve the problem I have.
On 2026-06-30 21:56, Chris wrote:
I do backups hourly.
And everybody can automate that trivially in an Android phone.
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-30 19:19:
On 2026-06-30 17:33, Arno Welzel wrote:
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-30 11:24:
[...]
How do you a backup of a calc sheet that is corrupted the instant you
use it?
You back it up before opening it of course - and ideally in *many*
versions. My preferred solution is a Nextcloud server which holds every
version within the last 60 days and in addition I have Borg backup for
the host which goes back up to 6 months if neccessary.
Do you do backups every 10 minutes, of the calc sheet files you edit,
every time you save the file? On a phone, while driving?
No, daily. At the moment I have 60 versions of every important file for
the last two months and in addition 16 versions for the 4 months before
that (one version per week).
Daily doesn't solve the problem I have.
If the sheet does not open any longer, you can go back daily and check
which version is still useable. If *no* version is usable, then you have chosen the wrong tool in the first place, sorry. A calc sheet program
which corrupts its own data is just broken.
Stefan Ram wrote:
Yes, I mark chatbot replies as quoted using "|".
I'm not sure why people think getting an answer from an LLM and pasting
it here is a good thing? A lot of forums seem to have someone who does
the same thing.
If I wanted a chatGPT answer, I'd go ask it myself, sorry if that sounds ungrateful ...
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